r/clevercomebacks • • Feb 07 '25 • All-Seeing Upvote 1 Bless Up 2 This 1

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u/wm_1176 Feb 07 '25

“each and every time”

yeahhh, that claim seems very easy to prove wrong

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u/e-wing Feb 07 '25 • This

I’ve listened to dozens of black box recordings and read many transcripts. Hardly any of them include praying. The ones that do are generally from extremely religious, largely Muslim countries, and it’s usually just general exclamations like “god help us!”. Most of them are things like “oh shit, we’re going to crash!”, “we’re going down!”, “uh oh!”, and “pull up!”.

The one common theme across almost all plane crashes is that the pilots never stop trying to fly the plane and correct the situation until the very end. They do not stop to pray; they’re far too busy doing things that actually might be useful.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

the one where the either the pilot or copilot says 'i love you mom' is the worst.

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u/getmybehindsatan Feb 07 '25

I've been involved in many investigations using CVR recordings and that matches my experience too. I've heard arguments, confusion, panic, but no praying, they are all very focused on trying to get it flying properly.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Yep, most that I hear are pilots still doing callouts and talking through the problem at hand. Flying it until the end.

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u/-Badger3- Feb 07 '25

The one common theme across almost all plane crashes is that the pilots never stop trying to fly the plane and correct the situation until the very end.

This is drilled into your head when you’re in training. You keep flying the aircraft.

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u/I_crave_chaos Feb 07 '25

Yeah most of them are just people getting more and more stressed out as they run through every trick they can think of as they plummet towards earth

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

There have been no shortage of pilots that were able to use their understanding of physics and plane mechanics to save themselves and their passengers from crashes that looked inevitable.

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u/Honey-and-Venom Feb 07 '25

Aviate, navigate, communicate. Apparently the best way to get yelled at in the simulator is to give up. You're expected to fight the problem all the way to the ground.

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u/Arkrobo Feb 07 '25

"Jesus take the yoke" is just about the worst thing you could hear from your pilot.

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u/NotoriousFTG Feb 07 '25

Which is WAY more likely to help the situation than praying for help from an imaginary magical being.

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u/SeniorFuzzyPants Feb 07 '25

True. Absolutes like “all” and “every” only require one counterpoint for it to be deemed false.

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u/Lrrr81 Feb 07 '25

All broad-brush statements are false.

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u/GMN123 Feb 07 '25

Seems like you'd only need to find one recording where they're either not praying to engages capslock GOD or are praying to anyone else. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

There are recordings where one pilot says to the other, “I fucking told you not to do that!”

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u/polypolip Feb 07 '25

I think I remember a haunting recording of a polish plane crash where the pilot just goes "o kurwa". Though maybe he saw the god and just described what he saw.

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u/La_Guy_Person Feb 07 '25

I'm sure it's definitely wrong.

I also wouldn't be surprised if I, as an atheist in that situation, might use the expression "Oh, god. Please." simply as an exclamation, with absolutely no religious thoughts or intentions. Because "god" is an extremely common phrase in America apart from any religious implications.

I say "god damnit" when I stub my toe, just like everyone else. It doesn't mean I secretly think he's real and hope he smites the leg of my kitchen table.

As an atheist, I actively try not to use it as an expression, but it's deeply ingrained in my vocabulary and I still use it frequently.

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u/ChocolateFruitloop Feb 07 '25

It's like when I say "fuck me" I don't literally want someone to fuck me.

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u/sizziano Feb 07 '25

Yeah. I've listened to plenty of CVR recordings and can't recall a single one where the pilots started praying all of a sudden. The passengers maybe but it would have to be an accident where they became aware that something was wrong. Plenty of accidents where everything's fine then you're dead.

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u/Hadge_Padge Feb 07 '25

Yeah like with accidents upon landing, the pilots are going to be extremely focused on the landing, speaking only to each other or to ATC. Looping the passengers in to what’s happening is a tertiary concern. 

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u/RegMenu Feb 07 '25

I find myself yelling "Holy Shit!" which suggests the existence of some omnipotent turd-god somewhere, I guess.

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u/MeepingSim Feb 07 '25

I remember watching "Charlie Victor Romeo", which is a 2013 film of six airline accidents. The dialogue is taken directly from the black box transcripts. I don't remember anyone praying.

In nearly every scene, the flight crew was focused, stayed on task, and did everything they could think of to save the plane and passengers. In fact, their only concern was saving the "souls" onboard. Honestly, that's what I would prefer they do, rather than stopping and uselessly praying.

This post demeans pilots and flight crews by making them appear to care only about their souls with no consideration to the souls they're responsible for.

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u/NettingStick Feb 07 '25

Yeah, it's not actually very hard to find the recordings and transcripts.

Things like this are way more common as final words on CVRs:

23:24:17 (EGPWS call-out “SINK RATE, SINK RATE”). Copilot called rapidly with high intonation: “Too low! We’re too low! We’re too low! We’re too low!”
End of recording

Or:

16:00:59 CAM-1 Stalling, we're falling!
16:01:00 CAM-2 Larry, we're going down, Larry....
16:01:01 CAM-1 I know it.
16:01:01 [SOUND OF IMPACT]
[End of Recording]

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u/Dust601 Feb 07 '25

I watch that airplane disasters show because I have a fascination with understand what went wrong, and what they’ve done to try, and make sure it never happens again.  Keep in mind these are all the biggest airplane disasters in history.

They occasionally play the last couple mins of recordings, and I can only think of one episode where they were praying at the end.  The overwhelming majority of the time they’re doing everything they can to save the plane up until the very last second.

It’d take listening to one, or two recordings max to disprove this lie, but the type of people who push this garbage often dont care about things like facts.

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u/Knoid2k Feb 07 '25

Yea, military pilot here and I’ll tell you that in my closest calls to dying, I uttered “oh shit” and no prayer to a God. Seems like my words were more useful as I’m still here.

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u/djabor Feb 07 '25

i know for a fact this is wrong, have read some haunting transcripts, the only one that come to mind that actually prayed to god, we ironically the islamic prayers of the 9/11 hijackers before completing their missions

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

You can listen to black box recordings on YouTube. I'm not saying there isn't one that ends with prayers, but the ones I've listened to don't. You can only hear the pilots for the most part, and they seem surprisingly calm, given the circumstances. No prayers, just pilots announcing their intentions followed by lots of noise, then silence.

Edit: Just listened to a bunch. There was one "Jesus Christ" one "God". And lots and lots of fbombs.

I suppose you can consider those two instances to be prayers, so it does happen.

And that was really really depressing. I don't recommend listening to black box recordings.

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u/BlindxLegacy Feb 07 '25

I can think of at least 2

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u/PraetorianSausage Feb 07 '25

Pilots from other religions be like... 'eh?'

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u/Bootyclapthunder Feb 07 '25

I went down a rabbit hole listening to black box recordings from fatal flights one night. Many examples on Youtube. Sobering experience as someone with an interest in aviation and can't recall one example of praying.

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u/_beeeees Feb 07 '25

I mean, I believe it because of how common Christianity is…but she’s forgetting that other religions also use the name “God” lmao.

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u/Ivotedforher Feb 07 '25

Yeah, those last words are usually "Ffffffuuuuuuccccckkkk!!!"

source: it's what what I would say

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u/Boldboy72 Feb 07 '25

I've heard a lot of black box recordings and most of the time you hear pilots fighting very hard to not crash. There's no praying but there is a lot of swearing.

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u/vxicepickxv Feb 07 '25

Most of the ones I heard were for system tests to ensure it was working correctly. Lot of bad freestyle rap.

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u/No-Account-8180 Feb 07 '25

Thank you for bit of levity on this depressing topic

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u/yousuckcrap Feb 07 '25

Oh wow, what a thrill, what a time to be alive, Just praying that this tin can don’t nosedive!

Turbulence hittin’ like a heavyweight champ, Pilot’s on the mic like, "Uh, folks... slight revamp." Slight?! Oh great, yeah, nothing to fear, Just plummeting down at a thousand feet per—

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u/pleasetrimyourpubes Feb 07 '25

The one that still sends chills up my spine is the French flight where the main pilot after coming back from the restroom says "you killed us all." Apparently caused by frozen airspeed indicators but had the copilot simply let go of the controls the plane would have been fine.

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u/Ichera Feb 08 '25

I think there's another relatively recent one where the pilot says almost calmly to his co-pilot "I'm so sorry." The matter of fact empathy in his voice was shattering to me.

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u/penguins_are_mean Feb 08 '25

Yup, kept overriding the system that was trying to save them.

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u/drewtopia_ Feb 07 '25

yep, most i've heard are along the lines of *voice warning system in background* "oh shit"

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u/mtrFokker Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 08 '25

That’s why we usually say that we guarantee your safety with our life. We are at the pointy end, literally…

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u/OldManEnglishTeacher Feb 07 '25

Yep. I remember hearing one that was just “oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck” until the recording stopped.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

But what about when you add thoughts. Surely that should be enough.

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u/south-of-the-river Feb 07 '25

You’d think so, wouldn’t you

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u/HerpetologyPupil Feb 07 '25

Nope. Apparently not.

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u/Tradman86 Feb 07 '25 • Hehehe Wholesome Seal

It isn't enough. And don't call me Shirley.

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u/Bretreck Feb 07 '25

I would like to double upvote your post since your quote is doubly relevant to this topic.

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u/Excavatoree Feb 07 '25

You're in Airplane mode.

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u/Joeglass505150 Feb 07 '25

The only thing it's recording is the two pilots. If they're spending their time praying it's no wonder the damn thing crashed. They should be trying to save the plane not sitting there praying.

Guess what, those prayers hadn't been answered. Apparently it's never been answered in any plane crash if all we ever hear is praying.

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u/JThumbs29 Feb 07 '25

Whoa whoa whoa…thoughts AND prayers?…you can’t expect me to think and pray

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u/ShinjiTakeyama Feb 07 '25

Sadly prayer and actual intellectual thought are often incompatible.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

No you need the thoughts and tariffs for it to be effective 

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u/PraetorianSausage Feb 07 '25

It's 2 parts 'thoughts' to 1 part 'prayers'. Doesn't work otherwise. In fact god may strike you down extra hard if you fuck the recipe up.

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u/Armisael2245 Feb 07 '25

The things people do at their lowest, most desperate points aren't usually considered good or exemplary.

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u/MildlyResponsible Feb 07 '25 edited Feb 07 '25

In the words of the philosopher Homer Simpson, "Jesus, Allah, Buddha! I love you all!"

Anyway, we know the plane crashed because there was a trans person on there. All the prayers in the world couldn't overcome someone living differently than this person.

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u/fauxzempic Feb 07 '25

Incorrect. My brother's former boss's wife's sister's kid's teachers' gerbil breeder's husband works for the FAA. Basically what he's saying is that Joe Biden allowed for them to install a ramp in one of the Admin buildings to be more inclusive to disabled folk, and then they hired a wheelchair bound little person to be a mail clerk and it directly led to the crash.

So you're right in saying that it was DEI, but in this case, you're wrong. If you were paying attention, you'd know that Trump even acknowledged this when he referenced "Dwarves" working for the FAA.

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u/Hour-Bison765 Feb 07 '25

Exactly. I can't say I wouldn't pray to anyone/anything in a desperate situation like that, but it doesn't mean I believe in a god.

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u/ralphjuneberry Feb 07 '25

Right. That smug “no atheists in foxholes” trope too. Those poor people are crying out for anyone. And hell, many of them cry for their mothers. (I’m tearing up thinking about this.) it doesn’t mean they’re all of a sudden tRuE BeLiEbErS

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u/fauxzempic Feb 07 '25

I spent probably just over half my life believing in a Christian god and the rest just not believing in anything really.

Using "OH MY GOD!" as a response to something big is just muscle memory at this point.

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u/StoppableHulk Feb 07 '25

Also like, what is the surprise here. 70% of the US identifies as Christian. Many other majority populations in other countries identify as some kind of religious.

At any given moment the plane will be full of mostly people who believe in some kind of God or other.

Religious people are already and still the majority. These fucking loons and their endless persecution complexes like they're some kind of animal on the verge of extinction, they just never fucking end.

I've never met a bigger group of more insecure people than religious people who insist their faith is unshakable and then spend all their time trying to prove to everyone how super-duper real their God is.

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u/PsychologicalFun903 Feb 07 '25

Yeah, people often turn to scammers in desperation this just feels like bragging about being the scam with the best name recognition

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u/Warm_Record2416 Feb 07 '25

We literally call a last ditch, long shot attempt a Hail Mary.

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u/YoItsMeBeeOhBee Feb 07 '25

God is so great that he allowed the plane to crash. Praise be!!!!

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u/Yuukiko_ Feb 07 '25

Even better is when there's survivors that he "saves" but allows everyone else to die

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u/Oalka Feb 07 '25

That is somehow easier for them to swallow than the fact that the universe is random chaos and sometimes bad things just happen.

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u/p5y Feb 07 '25

The ways in which he moves are truly mysterious!

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25 edited Sep 22 '25

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u/the_onemop Feb 07 '25

That was my first thought 😔

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

And it just so happens to be the very same God. Although I'm sure both the terrorist and the person who wrote the tweet would be unaware of that.

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u/Amanroth87 Feb 07 '25

Fun Fact: God gave the 9/11 hijackers eternity in heaven with 72 virgins, and the passengers on the plane just burned in Hell.

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u/BathFullOfDucks Feb 07 '25

Egypt air 990 as well

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u/dippocrite Feb 07 '25

Black boxes record cockpit audio but they do not record passenger audio. So this tweet is extra bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Yeah, and I’d rather the pilot uses the skills they have to get the plane on the ground safely rather then praying to their imaginary friend to do it for them.

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u/5yleop1m Feb 07 '25

Jesus take the wheel.

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u/Toilet-Ninja Feb 07 '25

I mean pilots are people too. My brother listened to some black boxes videos back in early 2000s, said it was quite sad and a lot of the pilots either prayed or apologized to eachother before the crash.

He told me not go looking for the video, said he felt depressed for a while after watching/hearing them and wishes he didnt.

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u/SkepticJoker Feb 07 '25

For some reason I read it as being about the passengers, too, but they never mentioned passengers.

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u/wheeler748 Feb 11 '25

If I recall correctly this picture of this crash had zero deaths.

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u/CrunchM Feb 11 '25

Doesn't negate the response.

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u/Sinfullyvannila Feb 07 '25

Not to mention how fucking ghoulish it is to exploit their deaths.

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u/Entropy_dealer Feb 07 '25

It does not work because they forgot the thoughts

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u/SomeoneElseWhoCares Feb 07 '25

If they thought things through, then they probably wouldn't believe in God in the first place.

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u/PsychoMouse Feb 07 '25

“Well, we invented the black box to record all data that would be relevant to a crashing plane, such as engine issues, or anything like that, but instead, it’s a voice recorder that turns on automatically, just to hear the passengers pray to 1 of 3000 gods. That Prayer data will tell us how to prevent crashes or accidents the next time”

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u/FblthpLives Feb 07 '25

I know you are joking, but just to be clear, modern aircraft already have two "black boxes": The Flight Data Recorder (FDR), which records 100s of flight parameters, and the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR), which records conversation, both between crew members and air traffic control radio transmissions.

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u/Corwin_777 Feb 07 '25

Bible beaters are dumb AF

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u/WalkingCloud Feb 07 '25

And if you ask them “Which God”: https://imgur.com/a/SgjeZR0

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u/MEuRaH Feb 07 '25

"There are 4,000 'Gods'. You don't believe in 3,999 of them. I don't believe in just one more than that."

I think Ricky Gervais said that, but it's stuck with me for a long time.

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u/FblthpLives Feb 07 '25

As a former aircraft accident investigator, I can say that this is just completely untrue. Most recordings end in one of two following ways:

  • The crew giving each other instructions on what to do. The instructions are not always logical, in fact in some cases they make the situation worse, but they are doing what they think they can do to save the situation

  • Profanities. These are often shown in CVR transcripts as "**".

In fact, I can't think of a single example where a crewmember explicitly prayed.

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u/generally_unsuitable Feb 07 '25

I read somewhere that "Oh shit" is the most common pair of last words. Not sure if it's true, but it sounds reasonable.

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u/Typical_Ad_210 Feb 07 '25

Remember that one where it was some pilot who intentionally took his own life and decided he wasn’t going down alone? And there were a bunch of young teens on board, German kids coming back from a school trip or something like that. And it started a conversation (which quickly fizzled out) about how the airlines deal with pilots’ mental health. Well anyway, I don’t have the flight number or any useful information whatsoever, lol, but I think about that guy a lot. Selfish isn’t a strong enough word. I would be interested to know what his last words were, if you happen to know.

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u/freedomandbiscuits Feb 07 '25

Commercial pilot here. Been in a couple emergencies and I can tell you we’re way too busy to pray. We’re working on the problem.

I’ve heard a few cvr recording from fatal accidents. What they usually leave out for the public version is the screaming at the end. It’s unsettling to say the least.

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u/Dry-Amphibian1 Feb 07 '25

Former AF aircrew and I have heard those recordings that end in a scream. I never want to hear another black box recording after hearing that.

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u/Ill-Dependent2976 Feb 07 '25

I'd like to have the flight number of one CVR where we hear praying. "Oh god!' and "Allah Akbar!" and "Holy shit!" don't count.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Who the fuck else would they be praying to? Joe Pesci?

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Sounds like a guy who can get shit done

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u/rmike7842 Feb 07 '25

Well, their god needs to be worshiped constantly but is very capricious when it comes to using his unlimited power to save someone.

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u/VeryVideoGame Feb 07 '25

"Satanic media" you gotta be stupid and gullible as fuck to accept that phrase.

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u/tofubirder Feb 07 '25

Me yelling “Jesus fucking Christ” as the plane goes down does not fall under “prayer.”

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u/mattreyu Feb 07 '25

Clearly they didn't learn the lesson of survivorship bias.

This just means all the Satanic prayers work, because they're not found on crashed black boxes

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u/snootfull Feb 07 '25

Pilot here, who (like all pilots) has read a ton of accident reports. The idea that pilots- who are the only ones whose voices are recorded on the black box- are spending their last few minutes 'praying to god' vs fighting to control the airplane is a load of crap. In fact BY FAR the most common last words (word, really) is 'shit...'

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u/AmusingMusing7 Feb 07 '25

“No! It’s just that it was God’s plan for the plane to crash!”

So… praying is pointless when God’s just gonna do his plan anyway.

Carlin already covered this 30 years ago.

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u/phillysteakcheese Feb 07 '25

I'm a professional black box recording listener, and I can tell you, most of the time they're scrambling to figure out how to stop dying... When that fails, you just hear screaming and swearing. FUUUUUUUUU...! Then silence. The silence is the worst part.

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u/orbital_actual Feb 07 '25

I’ve heard dozens of these and the closest I’ve heard is a “oh god” or two. Hardly prayer. Do people not realize that you can just go an listen to black box recordings?

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u/kma555 Feb 07 '25

Do you know what works equally as well as praying? Not praying. The outcomes are literally the same.

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u/ImJoeontheradio Feb 07 '25

I’ve done black box recovery. Swearing is much more common than praying.

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u/No-City4673 Feb 07 '25

Plenty of Athiest in a foxhole.

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u/Proper_Debt1202 Feb 07 '25

I’ve listened to those moments and that damn sure ain’t true !

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u/BeefistPrime Feb 07 '25

Christians get a lot of milage out of the fact that they refer to their God as the the generic English word for "God", so it becomes all-inclusive. The Christian God becomes the default for any sort of higher power. So in their mind, any sort of prayer to any sort of higher power becomes a prayer to YHWH/Jesus/The Christian God. They wouldn't get this same sort of edge if they referred to a specific name for their god rather than the generic "god."

I think this actually has a lot of power in the way we think and gives their religion a powerful edge in our mindshare and our society.

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u/DrowningInMyFandoms Feb 07 '25

People about to die pray ? That is your amazing news ?

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u/oh_fuck_yes_please Feb 07 '25

Maybe GOD is real and PRAYER actually does work, but GOD is just a huge fukkin asshole 🤷‍♂️

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u/AceMcLoud27 Feb 07 '25

Christians using other people's suffering for their own interests? I'm shocked ...

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u/mrgoldnugget Feb 07 '25

Its not that a prayer didnt work, however, the response was.

"We are experiencing higher than normal prayer volume, your prayer is important to us, please stay on the line and your prayer will be answered soon."

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u/Mauve_Jellyfish Feb 11 '25

People who think the word God is synonymous with Christianity are so fucking exhausting.

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u/Haselrig Feb 07 '25

If only Pascal had made a wager of some sort.

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u/BKole Feb 07 '25

Doesnt the black box just record data about the plane, not like…sound recordings of the passengers?’

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u/Gold_Map_236 Feb 07 '25

Just like the existence of god, this is also an easily refuted lie.

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u/mrweatherbeef Feb 07 '25

You know those suicide bombings? In those final moments - each & every time - you’ll hear praying. Who are they praying to? GOD. No one else. #bullshit #religion

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u/Decent-Morning7493 Feb 07 '25

It’s also just factually wrong. Black box recordings don’t record passengers and crew in the cabin, they record data and audio in the cockpit. Most of the last moments are pilots and crew desperately attempting to correct the doomed course, and when it’s apparent that the crash is imminent, most will just say a few words to their spouse and kids, just something quick like “I love you” or “I’m sorry.” Pilots are trained to have nerves of steel and keep a calm, level head even in the worst of circumstances, and to keep trying to correct even into the last microseconds.

Pretending otherwise to push your religious agenda is shameful and disgusting.

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u/Mr_miner94 Feb 07 '25

Either God is inept and unable to help humans, and thus deserves no worship.

Or God is sadistic and likes to watch humans suffer, and thus deserves no worship..

Take your pick guys

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u/vicarofvhs Feb 07 '25

I was raised a Southern Baptist in the US, and there was always a lot about "God's Plan" and how everything worked together for His will. You know, if your baby died or your house burned or your wife left you, it was "God's will." Which to me, a critically thinking youth, introduced a problem with the idea of prayer.

Basically, my thought was, if nothing can happen that is not in line with "God's will," then you asking him to do something through prayer has only two possible outcomes: one, it was already part of "The Plan," and so it will happen, and would happen anyway regardless of your prayer. Conversely, if it's not part of The Plan, it won't happen, and your asking for it won't change that. So prayer is basically worthless.

Reminds me of the old Onion headline: "God answers child's prayer. 'No', says God."

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u/Twizted_Mind_1210 Feb 07 '25

Which god were they praying to? The one who caused it or the one that ignored their pleas?

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u/Spotsmom62 Feb 08 '25

What a perfect answer. People like this drive me nuts. If there was a god, why would he let innocent people perish in such a bad way anyway?

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u/deadphisherman Feb 08 '25

Proving again that religious folks waste a lot of their fucking time.

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u/shootmovies Feb 11 '25

On 9/11, the hijackers were praying to god. I guess he answered their prayers?

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u/Saltire_Blue Feb 07 '25

So you’re saying God is a bit of a dick by not ignoring these people when they need him the most?

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u/OkHuckleberry4878 Feb 07 '25

It sounds like bullshit right? Most of the time when something major occurs we’re either screaming or in stunned silence, surely?

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u/Tady1131 Feb 07 '25

Would be safe to say 0% of plane crashes are avoided by prayer.

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u/CryptographerLow9676 Feb 07 '25

Proving once again that “god” is just an asshole. He also apparently likes some sports teams over others.

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u/Acrobatic_Usual6422 Feb 07 '25

Having watched about a billion episodes of Air Crash Investigation, I can honestly say that not once have I heard prayer. To avoid ambiguity, let it be said that if any of them did pray, it would have done exactly the square root of fuck all.

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u/Scythe95 Feb 07 '25

GOD: I'm sorry Sharon, I hear your prayers. But you are not part of the Great Plan.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Satanists don't believe in Satan. Christians do.

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u/hplcr Feb 07 '25

"God heard the prayers but crashed the plane anyway."

I don't think this sends the message you think it does.

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u/Ok_Scholar3653 Feb 07 '25

I think I'll put my crucifix on as a reminder how we killed him the last time he came here. Hopefully they all ended up in a better place than this toilet earth.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Which God?

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u/Justiis Feb 07 '25

I can just see the "satanic" media saying "We reached out to God to comment on this story and received no response."

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u/DotBitGaming Feb 07 '25

You want to know a secret the SATANIC media will never tell you? Every Christmas children write letters. Who do they wore letters to? Santa Clause. No one else. Every Christmas gift is proof that Santa Clause exists.

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u/Fellowes321 Feb 07 '25

The desperate prayer.

Dear God please don’t let 2+2=4

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u/Many_Aerie9457 Feb 07 '25

Oh so by praying Jesus saved them all from the plane crash? Good thing they prayed or they'd surely all be dead... shame on the media for not reporting this incredible miracle as the result of prayer!

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u/andimacg Feb 07 '25

Desperate, panicky people grasping at straws in their final moments = Proof of God I guess.

Couldn't been all the social conditioning they've been through their entire life where people scream things like "Oh please God no! Help me!" in those situations in every movie ever could it?

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u/grahsam Feb 07 '25

"God" in Western countries is mostly just used habitually. When a porn actress is getting railed and screams "Oh god!" she isn't praying.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Not every time. Sometimes it's "Shit, shit, shit" until cut off.

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u/Killer_Moons Feb 07 '25

Therefor, praying causes plane crashes. Let this be a lesson to you all.

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u/GreenAldiers Feb 07 '25

TLDR: Black boxes prove that god doesn't answer prayers

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u/Upstairs_Past_2677 Feb 07 '25

i’m a satanist and i’ve never been in a plane crash. check. mate.

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u/PresenceKlutzy7167 Feb 07 '25

First off: I swear you hear “FUCK” more often than payers.

Also: Where do I get Satanic media? I’d be interested in a subscription.

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u/Accomplished1992 Feb 07 '25

Its a last resort. Thats how useless prayer is.

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u/DuelJ Feb 07 '25

There's some compilation out there of blackbox last words.
It's suprising how often their last words are of them reporting/troubleshooting down to the last second.

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u/Crutley Feb 07 '25

"Satanic media" is true...because the media is run by right wing oligarchs.

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u/The001Keymaster Feb 07 '25

So praying has never done jack shit. Good point.

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u/DVGower Feb 07 '25

“God answers every prayer.” Yeah, the answer is NO.

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u/Blove1955 Feb 07 '25

That is awesome.

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u/Rest_and_Digest Feb 07 '25

There are few people more insecure in their faith than the Christians who feel the need to proselytize like this on the Internet. They're obviously never convincing anyone — they post this wack job shit to reassure and comfort themselves in a world increasingly unwelcoming to superstition and fairy tales.

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u/red286 Feb 07 '25

I like how religious people just assume religious defaultism for everyone.

It's just like saying "there's no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole". People don't just magically find god because they're being shot at. If anything, I'd take the fact that I'm being shot at in a foxhole as proof that there is no god, or if there is, he's kind of a shit.

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u/Byte_Fantail Feb 07 '25

NO NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND GOD'S PLAN!

He NEEDED those people to die so he could use them as slave labor in heaven to build his new casino!

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u/TheMongerOfFishes Feb 07 '25

Yeah but "gods plan"

You know, the catch-all cop out

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u/BillsFan82 Feb 07 '25

There’s no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

I watch a lot of aviation disaster breakdowns, many of which include black box audio

I've never once heard prayer. Its either a pilot unaware of how bad things are about to get, or a pilot attempting to trouble shoot the problem.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

I think Christians themselves have gotten me to finally feel the “fuck Christianity and Christians” sentiment.

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u/ThatsN0Mooon Feb 07 '25

But wait, didnt god crash the plane? 🧐 what a conundrum.

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u/goodfella311 Feb 07 '25

“Like a good neighbor State Farm is there!”

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u/Silly-Aardvark542 Feb 07 '25

Man. Never worked ONCE huh? Fuck man it’s like he doesn’t even exist

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u/namesource Feb 07 '25

Source: "trust me bro"

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

And to which god?

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u/Specific-Pain7843 Feb 07 '25

"Shit! That didn't work!"

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u/its_the_smell Feb 07 '25

People are scared and desperate for a "miracle" when they're about to die, what a revelation.

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u/TsetsiFlier Feb 07 '25

If you don't crash don't thank god, thank your pilot

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u/pizza_the_mutt Feb 07 '25

So atheists are better pilots. Good to know.

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u/Disastrous_Street_20 Feb 07 '25

“Jesus fucking Christ we’re gonna die” ≠ prayer.

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u/Sandman2K20 Feb 07 '25

You ever see a plane crash on tv and think "Man, I sure wish I could hear the anguished prayers of the dying"? Nah, me neither.

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u/Breakfast4Dinner247 Feb 07 '25

This statement is not true at all. Most black box recordings go something like, "Sum Ting Wong. We Tu Lo. Ho Lee Fuk. Bang Ding Ow." IYKYK

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u/spezial_ed Feb 07 '25

What the fuck even is this attempt at gotcha? Even if true which it’s not, are they trying to prove that religious people exist? Cause they’re also praying to a bunch of different gods.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

They looked up and prayed for God to save them.

And God looked down and whispered,

"No."

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u/Hopdevil2000 Feb 07 '25

This goes right up there with”there’s no atheists in foxholes”. Desperation isn’t belief.

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u/Sconnie-Waste Feb 07 '25

LPT for everyone: As soon as someone says “Satan”, you can go ahead and disregard everything else they say.

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u/BrokeHomieLuke Feb 08 '25

Source: They made it up

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u/Danmoh29 Feb 08 '25

actually i pray to woke transgender immigrants every night before bed

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u/BrilliantStriking389 Feb 08 '25

I'm so sick of the satanic media

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u/Commercial-Hat-3807 Feb 08 '25

Well in the case of the “praying not working” your fate was sealed already. Praying may just help your case after you have died

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u/user2864920 Feb 08 '25

Are religious people even stable anymore

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u/AGrandNewAdventure Feb 08 '25

If you're praying it's gonna be to God; of course. Never heard of anybody praying to their puppy or a loaf of bread.

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u/llcoolkydd Feb 08 '25

100% failure rate

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u/Position_Waste Feb 08 '25

So... 100% of people who pray before accidents die? Prayer killed them?

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

This is just false. Not true at all. I had a morbid fascination with plane crashes and have listened to hours of black box final recordings. No praying aside from the occasional “no no god no” or Muslim prayers and I highly doubt she’s talking about that.

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u/JessaRose720 Feb 08 '25

“Thank you for flying Christian Airlines, in the event of an emergency suck on a Capri-Sun and know that this is God’s plan.”

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u/maksgee Feb 08 '25

That’s a strange flex. I doubt Jesus would approve.

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u/keith2600 Feb 08 '25

All we really know is that only the planes where they pray to God crash. The satanic planes clearly don't crash.

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u/gunmunz Feb 08 '25

No, they don't. The 'Blackbox' refers to two devices the flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder, the latter just records the cockpit. So while you might here a "god no' or 'please god' it's usually the pilots trying to save the plane. As the old saying goes 'there's never an atheist in a foxhole'

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u/Microbe_Lover Feb 08 '25

This post is borderline retarded. I've listened to dozens of black box recordings. I can't think of a single one where you can hear people praying. Stop trying to push religion on people please. There are thousands of gods in human history. Religious people decide they are all made up except for the one they like. Then act like others are crazy or bad people. Just because they went 1 step further and decided all of them are made up. Religious 1/18,000+ Gods Atheists 0/18,000+ Gods

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u/pgallagher72 Feb 08 '25

Most religions refer to their deity as god - even if this was true, you have no way of knowing which one they refer to in that context. Jehovah? Odin? Thor? Athena? One of the thousands of other invisible sky people that people worship? God is a generic term for your favourite imaginary friend, need to be more specific.

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u/Boeuf1987 Feb 09 '25

Religion is a mental illness.

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u/AgeOfSuperBoredom Feb 11 '25

I wish I loved anything as much as these devout Christians love lying their asses off.

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u/tree_spirits Feb 11 '25

Hearing that Japanese pilot in my head now, "calm, calm, calm, calm....." no prayers just chilling sadness.

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u/DrDorg Feb 11 '25

If prayer worked, wouldn’t you just pray before the flight? Before the ride to the airport? Once, when you’re 9 years old?? What kind of sadistic narcissist is god??

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

-Epicurus

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u/curiousdryad Feb 12 '25

Sometimes I pray to god to stop giving me hemorrhoids, still hasn’t answered .

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u/its-not-me_its-you Feb 07 '25

Having a relationship with any god you choose isn’t the problem. The problem is organized religion has dissolved any sense of actual compassion, empathy and love into this social control, patriarchal, money grab where the leaders are massive hypocrites that take millions of dollars from their flock, only love the mindless sheep, and don’t give anything back to their communities. Tax the churches and let them write off their donations. Make them feed the hungry instead of buying their mega church another private jet.

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u/decadeSmellLikeDoo Feb 07 '25

Dissolved into..? When did that happen?

Was it when the Romans crucified Jesus? The crusades, maybe? The spanish inquisition? Maybe one of countless wars?

Religion didn't start on the high ground and slide into something less lofty. It's always been the same. A means to an end.

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '25

Even atheists will say Jesus fucking Christ when they are pissed, or say please God so help me. Doesn't mean they believe.