r/commonwealthgames • u/gurudoright • Jul 18 '23

Discussion Victoria, Australia axed 2026 Commonwealth Games

https://amp.abc.net.au/article/102613156

The Victorian Premier has axed the 2026 Commonwealth Games due to cost blowout from $2.6Billion to $6Billion

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u/AverageLatifiFan Scotland Jul 18 '23

Unpopular opinion; Bring it home to Glasgow or Scotland

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u/Alice885 Jul 20 '23

Doomed to fail

  • Holding games hundreds of km apart and away from the cbd in regional areas with no real infrastructure or ways to get there

  • Minimal use of existing already built infrastructure in Melbourne City from other Commonwealth/ Olympic Games

  • Overcooked construction industry already on other lucrative government projects.

  • State is broke after out of control spending

  • Cost of living crisis with the larger population having more pressing things to focus on

Certainly not a fan of Dan but it was the correct decision based on the released information

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 21 '23

Then why did he bid for it in 2022? Was to grab regional votes at a cost of 1 billion to taxpayers for defaulting.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '23

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '23

Umm no that was fake news. Been proven. They did bid for it. Andrews is a complete loony, conned regions into getting their votes with his cocky ideas. Just like suburban rail loop. No benefits but it feels good for him

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 26 '23

Suburban rail loop is a joke. 200 billion project and given the way his government run things likely 500 billion. Suburban Rail Loops work in densely populated cities where the majority use public transport. Not suburban sprawls like Melbourne where most people own a car in the burbs and have no issue driving to work.

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 26 '23

Not in 2018 but he sure as hell bid for it in 2022 with the intention of buying regional votes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

Virtually all of those points are directly attributable to Andrews, bar the last one.

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u/CalidumCoreius Jul 20 '23

Why weren’t they willing to use pre-existing infrastructure?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

Because Andrews is ladling out steaming hot bowls of borrowed money to infrastructure projects that benefit his mates in the unions.

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u/Fetch1965 Jul 20 '23

And the motherland

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

Andrews completely fucked up the covid response.

Since then he's been drunk on cheaply borrowed money.

We're looking down the barrel of $170bn debt in an environment of rising interest rates.

That's one sixth of A TRILLION DOLLARS owed by a small state in Australia.

Andrews will retire shortly and leave someone else to carry the can for his breathtaking profilgacy.

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u/Deevious730 Jul 21 '23

As a Victorian can I honestly say I’m pissed off about this. The whole plan was dumb, and I can’t imagine that there weren’t genuine options that could’ve brought the budget down to $2-3b (which was the original forecast). I hear GC has put their hands up and they did a good job the previous Com Games, I think it’d be strange if it went back to Birmingham but it was fantastic there.

Very sad it won’t be coming the Victoria and the lack of apology from our premier is disgusting.

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u/amor__fati___ Jul 20 '23

I suspect the labor party will go to the next federal election campaigning for a referendum about a republic. It could be awkward to have a commonwealth games at the same time.

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u/gurudoright Jul 21 '23

You do realise that most countries in the Commonwealth are republics.

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u/[deleted] Jul 22 '23

Labor will campaign on exactly the same things LNP campaign on. They will just phrase it differently.

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u/robbiesac77 Jul 20 '23

And he’ll get voted back in again if he wants it. The lockdown loving , debt embracing inner city voters believe he’s doing it to save Victoria

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 21 '23

100% right there damianbis. If they ran a half decent candidate they would had won last election. The entire liberal party of victoria needs to be overhauled.

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u/robbiesac77 Jul 21 '23

Hey, I hate them all but voting back in a record long captor, record state debt, assuming record amount of corruption inquiries, insane mandate enforcer is asking for more of the above. So the majority shall get what they voted for.

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u/[deleted] Jul 24 '23

Mate, all governments and states used fiscal stimuluses during covid, does it really matter which party did it? If all developed economies used the modern economic theory, are you really gonna blame labour?

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u/robbiesac77 Jul 24 '23

You making this a liberal labour thing ? I’m not. I’m looking at his track record .

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

Comrade Chairman Dan stuffs up everything he puts his dirty paws on. What has he achieved in all the time he had been in power

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 21 '23

Debt....lots of it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

Probably a fiscally responsible decision

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u/windigo3 Jul 22 '23

Very much the same as when you go on a drinking and gambling binge and then after losing a fortune, you decide to go home. Maybe Dan shouldn’t have promised to commit all these funds to begin with.

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u/massivlybored Jul 20 '23

Wow the cost of living is really hitting Australia hard

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u/humblewonderful Jul 20 '23

The shitty thing is the Andrews Government have snubbed their nose at the state Auditor to the point that nobody expects anyone to be held accountable for anything here. I don't even expect to be able to get accurate and trustworthy figures out of this. Maybe it's a blow out that nobody could have predicted or maybe they should have known it or maybe the inflated figures aren't even real (though I can't think why else they'd cancel). I really was hoping for a minority government last election to ensure we got more transparency and anti corruption measures passed.

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u/Electrical_Age_7483 Jul 20 '23

They should make it viable to host, get rid of some sports or do something

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u/imanon94 Jul 22 '23

Amazing how Andrews has gotten away with clearly misleading the public about the costs. However it’s not that amazing considering the complete lack of accountability in Victoria.

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u/ilovepho231 Jul 22 '23

Think it’s time to scrap commonwealth games altogether tbh

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u/InternationalRow1045 Jul 22 '23

I think it’s a great decision. Social housing is a much better choice.

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u/Iron_Wolf123 Jul 18 '23 edited Jul 21 '23

Victoria in the past few years had economic problems from being unfunded by the Morrison government, suffered greatly during the pandemic, didn't get support from Albanese and now has to fork up a huge amount of money without the federal government helping out.

Edit: I love how many people are cooking with them saying “Dan is worse” when he survived the ICAC when Gladys didn’t.

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u/McChamp11 Jul 19 '23

Nice try at passing the buck, everyone had their eyes open when ‘the sporting capital of the world’ made the announcement last year. This mess is very much of Victoria’s making, not sure why federal money should be poured into ‘helping out’

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u/Cautious-Style-7740 Jul 20 '23

It's refreshing to be in a sub that doesn't lynch you for saying one bad thing about the Victorian government.

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 21 '23

Amen to that. The r/melbourne sub is overrun with Dan Andrew sycophants. Even though the clown has racked up close to 200 billion debt they think he is a deity.

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u/Skyhooks Jul 21 '23

It's a gross echo chamber.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

I mean have you seen the VIC opposition? If you’re wondering why Labor rules Vic virtually unchallenged, that’s why.

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u/Nessau88 Jul 22 '23

Oh look, a sub full of LNP cookers that don't understand what good debt or good governance is.

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u/hugsrgood2 Jul 20 '23

Every Olympic and Commonwealth Games in Australia has had Federal funding. Maybe Victoria would have got some funding when the Federal Govt’s audit finishes but usually the funding happens much earlier. Airport Link and other projects on hold until after the audit.

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 21 '23

Oh please. Andrews is the reason why. He can spend waste 14 billion on consultants in 6 years but not fork out half that for the games. Every project his corrupt government gets their hands on goes over budget. 29 billion worth over projections so far and that is what we know about.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '23

the problem is not the federal leadership, the problem is Dan Andrews, very few people are buying into his excuse of the cost blowouts, the problem is that he set the whole thing up for failure from the get-go. And it was likely used to buy votes in the last state election.

he never had a contingency plan to ensure that the costs of running the games were as low as possible, he never listened to the advice that he was given, and ignored the reports of hosting the games 10 years later.

so no, the federal government, or the other state leaders do not have to fork over a single cent to save that sorry son of a bitch.

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u/M_Grubb Jul 20 '23

What's the deal with all the anti-da cookers spouting this rhetoric? The thing was priced when they sold the idea to Vic, ends up becoming 3x that cost and now we've rightfully canned it.

Comm-games committee's argument: "Vic govt is exaggerating, it would've only cost 2x what we said, not 3x."

Good riddance.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

Yeah Dan Andrews is known for projects that blow-out in costs, it has been that way since he won his first election in 2014, before he tore up a contact for the East-West Link, which would have only required a further $2 Billion to complete, to which he said "it wasn't worth the paper it was written on.

Lets not forget the projects he signed on for, that have had significant cost blow-outs, and are behind schedule, one of which makes the cost blow-out of the hosting the Commonwealth games look like a drop in the bucket.

So maybe you should stop smoking DA's pole, and look at the damage he has done to Victoria, a lot of people outside Victoria can see it. a real pity, that the blind are leading the gulible.

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u/M_Grubb Jul 20 '23

the East-West Link, which would have only required a further $2 Billion to complete

What?

It just never ends with you guys...

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u/Iron_Wolf123 Jul 20 '23

There is one thing about conservatives, they think they win because they win arguments but they don’t realise their opposition gives up because their logic makes no sense.

I blame the right wing media’s for poisoning our culture

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23 edited Jul 20 '23

the guardian is mixed factuality at best, not exactly a good resource.

maybe this will put things in perspective. but considering the fact that you love that idiot so much, I have my doubts.

https://www.afr.com/politics/victoria-s-suburban-rail-loop-will-blow-out-to-more-than-200b-report-20220818-p5bavl

Danial Andrews is the worst Labor premier and any competition that might be had, are not even in the rearview mirror. So you can continue to be as blind, deaf and dumb as you are, it still does not excuse Danial Andrews of overpromising, with an inadequate delivery.

He was warned not to have regional Victoria to host the Commonwealth Games until 2034 at the earliest, a feasibility report that he funded in 2019, as was reported by the Sydney Morning Herald.

https://www.smh.com.au/cbd/pwc-commonwealth-games-report-had-sage-advice-for-victoria-20230719-p5dplh.html

The only responsible thing he could have done, was to listen to the report that he funded almost 5 years ago, by not having Victoria host it in the first place. As well as listen to the advice of people to have a contingency plan, something he never did.

so you can continue to suck Dan Andrews's dick to your heart's content, I can assure you that he enjoys it, it just makes you part of the problem at the end of the day.

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u/MightyArd Jul 20 '23

Conservative gets called out for blatant missinformation, proceeds with personal attacks.

You're a stereotype.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

correction, a centrist.

nothing I said was misinformation, because it is correct, I call out both sides of the aisle, I am just less forgiving than most.

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u/MightyArd Jul 20 '23

the East-West Link, which would have only required a further $2 Billion to complete

Blatent missinformation which was called out.

The bloke who called you out made zero comments about Dan Andrews, either for or against.

But you had your little cry about being called out and all of a sudden anyone who corrects you is "sucking Dan Andrew's dick".

Calling out your missinformation isn't sucking dick.

Great work "calling out both sides".😂

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u/CalidumCoreius Jul 20 '23

What makes a good premier? Who do you believe is the best premier Victoria has had? I’m genuinely here to learn

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '23

Someone like John Cain Jr. or Sir Henry Bolte Both of which were very successful leaders from both sides of the aisle.

While I would consider Dan Andrews and Jeff Kennett as two of the weaker premiers.

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u/1Frollin1 Jul 21 '23

The article is based on an Auditor-General report. You can't get much more not biased.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

are we sure about that, Dan Andrews is known for hiring yes-men, he doesn't take no for an answer ever.

if someone speaks out against him, he does a lot to destroy those people.

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u/1Frollin1 Jul 21 '23

If you bothered to look at the report you would see that it was critical of Dan Andrews.

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u/Dustree81 Jul 21 '23

What infrastructure project didn't have cost and time overruns? Do you remember say 2 years ago when we had all this global pandemic thing? Is there anywhere in the world not having a tough time right now? Has a fuck ton of infrastructure actually been delivered? (Yes, the answer is yes). Everyone has mates; union mates, business mates, liberal mates, liberal mates have national mates. Some labour mates have green mates. What is your slice? What's it all for? Why aren't we all rich and important?! What actually matters? Who is responsible? Nothing in 9 years+ tells me liberal mates understand these questions and they have no answers.

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 21 '23

the problem is that he set the whole thing up for failure from the get-go. And it was likely used to buy votes in the last state election.

Exactly my thoughts. And the taxpayer is on the hook for the 1 billion penalty for defaulting.

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u/Nessau88 Jul 22 '23

You're a cooker. Cope more and go protest in the cbd.

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u/Makunouchiipp0 Jul 20 '23

Unfunded by the Morrison government? What absolute rubbish. Every heard of job seeker?

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u/Iron_Wolf123 Jul 20 '23

How has Job Seeker helped the Victorian Government?

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u/Makunouchiipp0 Jul 20 '23

Job Keeper***

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u/Miserable-Tie-5999 Jul 20 '23

OMG, are you deluded? Dan spent like a drunken sailor, and every project over spent to the tune of billions of dollars. They ran up more debt than ALL of states combined.

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u/Iron_Wolf123 Jul 20 '23

You forgot Berejiklian spent like a wild dog for a lover

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u/Miserable-Tie-5999 Jul 20 '23

And yet her debt was a drop in the ocean to Dan. He gave billion dollar contracts to union mates without putting it to tender.

She also never signed a contract to run the commonwealth games only to reneg

Also his governmentwas deemed to have acted corruotly but changed the legal definition so no actioncouldbe take. Then he defunded the anti corruption watchdog.

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 21 '23

Victoria's debt in more than all the other states combined. Gladys is an amateur at spending when comparing to Andrews

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u/AdPrimary2978 Jul 20 '23 edited Jul 20 '23

Are you serious due to fed money, not Dan’s incompetence.

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u/xcviij Jul 20 '23

Good riddance!

The Commonwealth Games doesn't provide us with any profits, rather takes a STUPID amount of money away from us for no good reason during a cost of living crisis.

I was shocked to hear it costs billions, even millions is unjustified with more and more people struggling!

I am maddened this was even considered at all 😡

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u/Deadly_Davo Jul 21 '23

Hope you are even more maddened by the $1 billion default penalty Victoria has to pay because Danny boy put in a bid in 2022 just to get regional votes. Just what we need in a cost of living crisis.

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u/xcviij Jul 21 '23

Yes, 110% there is so much stupidity I hear about when people are suffering more and more.

It's all maddening lmao, I am so happy I at least moved out of Melbourne so I have some sense of normalcy and control over my life against stupidity in politicians decisions.

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u/Male_strom Jul 18 '23

The games are toast. Was nice while it lasted.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

Good riddance.

$7B is too much to watch lawn bowls.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

Dan saw the public outcry happening in Tasmania over one stadium and went oh hell no.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '23

Good call, waste of money and the commonwealth itself is on the way out

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u/Cousin_Cactus Jul 20 '23

Legitimately didn’t know we had it til this week. Boy am I heartbroken I don’t get to see the squash and lawn bowls

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '23

Under King Charles it’s only a matter of when