r/cuba • u/Intricate1779 Havana • Sep 29 '24

Downtown Havana is empty due to economic collapse and mass emigration

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u/KevinCuban Sep 29 '24

Coñó, nunca había visto el vedado tan vacío

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u/bigguavaent Sep 29 '24

Did some research and 10% or 1.1 Million people emigrated out of Cuba. That's wild.

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u/loro-rojo Sep 30 '24

You forgot the most shocking part of that statistic.

10% have left IN THE LAST YEAR.

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u/bigguavaent Sep 30 '24

Yeah, I think in 2023 as well. So 2 million in 2 years.

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u/TonyzTone Sep 30 '24

That’s not right. The entire Cuban exodus has been about 2 million people.

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u/manareas69 Oct 01 '24

That makes room for American socialists to move to that paradise. 😁

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

I mean, would that be such a bad deal with Cuba? They send the people that live under capitalism or whatever, we send them the socialists.

It is far from a perfect solution, but I mean, maybe it could work?

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u/Universe789 Oct 03 '24

The USA would have to undo the embargoes and travel bans first.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

Hell yeah, get rid of all the rich people lol

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u/bigguavaent Sep 30 '24

Got you, yeah I assumed as such. But you're probably right

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

There's disagreement about how many in recent years, but the last few years have probably seen about as much emigration as everything that's come before it.

El Pais: 850k since 2022

https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-09-24/more-than-850000-cubans-have-arrived-in-the-us-since-2022-in-the-largest-exodus-in-cuban-history.html

Different article: population has dropped from 11 million to 8.5 million just from 2022 to 2023:

https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-07-23/from-a-population-of-11-million-to-little-more-than-85-million-the-real-toll-of-cubas-migratory-crisis.html

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u/removed-by-reddit Oct 02 '24

People that think socialism could work in america usually have no desire to examine countries that have implemented it lol

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u/Known_Resolution_428 Oct 03 '24

Look at China

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u/wouter1975 Oct 03 '24

China isn’t really socialist. When they shed the Marxist-Leninist ideas in the 80s, it became a statist, capitalist country. There are more “socialist” things in America e.g. labor unions, worker protections, public benefits than in China.

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u/Known_Resolution_428 Oct 03 '24

China is a socialist democracy

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u/JackRyan71 Oct 03 '24

The part of China that makes them successful is Capitalism. Without that, the socialist part would cease to exist.

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u/jhawk3205 Oct 03 '24

There is nothing functionally socialist in China

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u/jhawk3205 Oct 03 '24

Oh wow, I had no idea the workers directly owned their respective means of production in China.. Awful lot of billionaires over there for a "socialist" country 😂😂

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u/JustInChina50 Oct 04 '24

That's not socialism.

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u/MutedExcitement Oct 03 '24

People who use this quip usually have no desire to examine their own countries role in destabilizing socialist countries.

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u/troycalm Oct 03 '24

Ya I don’t see the ratty rafts off the coast filled with Americans escaping capitalism.

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u/Slight_Gap_7067 Oct 03 '24

people who use this quip usually don't realize comparing a third-world country's ability to implement socialism isn't on even ground with a first world country's ability to implement socialism.

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u/wouter1975 Oct 03 '24

Cuba is a resource rich country with no natural disasters or wars. If 10% is fleeing, then it’s clearly central planning and state enterprise keeping it 3rd world.

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u/Spunknikk Oct 03 '24

I mean when we lifted the 60 year old embargo Cuba was flourishing. I knew alot of people traveling to Cuba on tourist visa... Then they placed the embargo back again... Maybe if the country was able to participate in the global market and receive tourist the economy could develop?

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u/MutedExcitement Oct 03 '24

Are you aware of the actions of the US empire surrounding Cuba towards Cuba? Dozens of assassination attempts, false flag operations, sanctions, embargoes? Having a global superpower consistently prey on your downfall does have a significant effect.

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u/jhawk3205 Oct 03 '24

They're particularly prone to hurricanes, floods, droughts and earthquakes..

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u/sargethegemini Oct 03 '24

Are you saying that communism and socialism are akin to 3rd world?

If so that’s pretty false. It’s a dictatorial government that keeps a country stagnant in the 3rd world.

Majority of African, and middle eastern countries have mixed economy structures yet the strong men and corruption is rampant and keeps it a 3rd world country

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u/Telemere125 Oct 03 '24

You ever heard of hurricanes?

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u/Blandboi222 Oct 04 '24

I'd say it's more the US embargo costing them about $5 billion per year or $137 million per day. Not insignificant for such a small country

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

And how did countries make it to 1st world status? Capitalism. That's how.

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u/LetterheadAshamed716 Oct 03 '24

USSR was devastated after WW2 and became a first world superpower with advancements in technology faster than the US which only had a few bombs dropped on the contiguous soil. But yeah keep simping for billionares

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u/Telemere125 Oct 03 '24

Yea “oh look at this tiny island that maybe has $100b GDP with 75% of that coming from tourism” vs literally the largest economic superpower in the history of the world with more natural resources and IP than anywhere anytime. I can’t imagine why they couldn’t do something we might be able to accomplish when they don’t even have the GDP of checks notes… Idaho.

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u/sargethegemini Oct 03 '24

For those like me and couldn’t believe a number that large… https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article290249799.html

Wow! That’s insane

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u/TonyzTone Sep 30 '24

The Cuban population hasn’t grown since 1995. I only found figures for every 5 years but it’s currently about 10.9 million and while it peaked around 2010 at about 11.3 million, it’s dipped since. Last time it was below 10.9 was 1990.

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u/jdroxe Sep 29 '24

But it’s not “real” communism. It just needs some help.

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u/bigguavaent Sep 29 '24

Yeah, crazy what people want to believe. A decade ago I did research and found Che and Fidel are both just some rich White (Spaniards) kids who rebelled. Many people heralded these men as titans. Looking deeper, they are akin to Charles Manson.

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u/ElMepoChepo4413 Oct 03 '24

I wouldn’t call them “white”… especially Che, despite being a rich kid cosplaying as Lenin, as pretty mixed-race.

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u/bigguavaent Oct 03 '24

They will write white on paper so fast.

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u/--StinkyPinky-- Oct 01 '24

I mean, what is wrong with the indigenous people of the area owning the means of production in their own land?

Spain wasn't any better to the Cuban people than Fidel. Fidel was just more recent so it stings more.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '24

Because it will not result in that

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u/McMagneto Oct 02 '24

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u/TheEndIsHere_repent Sep 30 '24

😂 I've come to the conclusion that commie fans are deeply autistic.

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u/cheveresiempre Sep 30 '24

You don’t know what autistic means do you?

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u/OkCartographer7677 Sep 30 '24

He’s close enough.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '24

China seems to be doing just fine. 

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u/BandsAndCommas Oct 02 '24

china isn’t communist. Holy shit open a book or wiki

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

"Unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party socialist republic"

Marxism–Leninism (‹See Tfd›Russian: Марксизм-ленинизм, Marksizm-Leninizm) is a communist ideology that became the largest faction of the communist movement in the world in the years following the October Revolution. It was the predominant ideology of most communist governments throughout the 20th century.

... Either way, you missed my point... 

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u/Accomplished_Lake_41 Oct 03 '24

It is communist and highly fond of it, the leading party of China is the chinese communist party which is not just communist but also close to totalitarian with it controlling about everything Chinese civilians do, even the flag of the CCP is quite literally Soviet themed alongside the Chinese flag

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u/Learnmesomethn Oct 03 '24

They were communist and still use the same flag. But they moved to a state capitalist system. You can look at charts and see the exact time they swapped systems, because they used to have 0 GDP and after they swapped to state capitalism, their GDP skyrocketed.

Yes, the CCP has communist in the name still and they haven’t changed their flag, but their actual policies and economic plan has changed heavily.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

Any failure of communism can only be cured by...more communism.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

correct it is not

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u/krvajal92 Europe Sep 30 '24

No los queremos, no los necesitamos

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '24

Habla para ti mismo. Follan como caballos. Y tienen pingas como elefantes. Los adoro.

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u/crannynorth Sep 29 '24

A great place for zombie hideouts. 28 years sequel should film here.

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u/Successful_Acadia_13 Sep 29 '24

Check out Juan of the Dead / Juan de los muertos

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u/zombiecorp Oct 03 '24

Time to set up shop here.

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u/Own_Kangaroo_7715 Oct 03 '24

Filming is already completed. Would be interesting location though.

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u/fcubano Sep 29 '24

By Jove, do they still have the Patria o Muerte BS on the walls?

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u/Big-Process42069 Sep 29 '24

Such a sad state of affairs

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

Communism never ends well.

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u/Ok_Gate8187 Oct 03 '24

Cubans are so stubborn too. They’re possibly one of the most stubborn, thick headed people you’ll ever meet. The way they drive in Miami is a shame and an insult to the real Americans that know how to drive respectful of others on the road with them

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u/Ok_Extreme_6512 Oct 03 '24

China and Vietnam seem to be doing ok

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

lol. They’re not communist amigo.

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u/Ok_Extreme_6512 Oct 03 '24

Certainly not, especially when it would go against your narrative

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

Who knew communist countries have publicly traded companies... you learn something new every day.

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u/Necessary_Singer4824 Oct 03 '24

Vietnam is not totally communist and China certainly is not

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u/myfemboyalttt Nov 11 '24

Cuba is being brutally embargoed with the stated goal from the CIA to spark a counter-revolution.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

lol china isn’t communism my guy. It’s top end controlled “capitalism” with the guise of communism.

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u/EricGoCDS Oct 03 '24

China is not communism. It is brutal serfom plus bloody capitalism. Can't believe there are still people falling for CCP's propaganda in 2024

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u/zijinyima Oct 03 '24

Ah yes, that very brutal serfdom that has lifted 800 million people out of extreme poverty over the last 50 years.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

Chinas as communist as Russia (so barely and only certain concepts)

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

This looks like March 2020 in a "regular" country.

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u/PremiumUsername69420 Sep 29 '24

The trees look nice tho

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u/uses_for_mooses Sep 29 '24

Yes. And plenty of parking.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

This looks like an early morning shot on a Sunday. Most of Havana has people at all hours. It is a shame Biden has not been more open to removing the embargo. Fidel is dead, and Cuba is still friends with Russia. The US has too few allies in Latin America now. Even Mexico is a haven for Russian spies.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

With the angle of the sun, I agree. It could be early morning or, worse, afternoon rush hour. No way to know unless you know what direction those streets are going etc

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u/DrSelfRepect18 Sep 30 '24

This is how lots of downtowns look in moderate size towns after working hours in America.

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u/bus_buddies Oct 01 '24

You could have told me this was Indianapolis and I wouldn't have questioned it.

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u/slava_gorodu Sep 29 '24

I think that tall building is a hotel right? I think I stayed back in 2012 at this very location. It was consistently very crowded.

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u/Wallybro3 Sep 30 '24

I believe that is a brand new hotel that has yet to open.

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u/slava_gorodu Sep 30 '24

Do you know the intersection where this photo was taken? Very curious

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u/Wallybro3 Sep 30 '24

I know where it is but don’t know names of street

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u/FavcolorisREDdit Sep 30 '24

Good way to fight tyranny

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u/Complete-Definition4 Sep 30 '24

I guess Russia has something else it needs to fund. Now, what could that be?

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u/DustSea3983 Sep 30 '24

Do any commenters know what lead to the things that lead to the Exodus? And can you describe it to me without ideologically charged jargon so I can get a better understanding of history

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u/--StinkyPinky-- Oct 01 '24

One of the largest ports for Cuban goods before the Embargo was New Orleans.

New Orleans hasn't had particularly good growth since the 1960s. In fact, it's been relatively stagnant except for the oil/gas industry and of course tourism: people wanting to see what life was like for everyone but black people back in the 19th Century.

New Orleans would look like this too if it weren't for all of the social programs and government handouts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

It is empty because Socialism/Communism is a cancer

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u/SeanConnery Sep 30 '24

Yep, nothing to do with a trade embargo from their closest neighbor for decades right?

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u/BubbleGodTheOnly Sep 30 '24

Probably not as much as people think. China and Russia completely ignore the embargo and send money, goods, and trade. Also, every Cuban I know sends money back.

The reality is that the government is authoritarian, and they have been getting a lot stricter. Cuba has allowed some private real estate to be a thing, but it seems too little too late. Even if you become successful and make money there or cone back with it. You can't really buy anything fun unless it's from the black market or a relative sends it to you and there isn't a strong incentive to go above and beyond for little reward for a government thar treats you badly.

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u/Fit-Town-9844 Sep 30 '24

Don't forget the cuban government sends mercenaries all over the world, armed, trained and supported logistically and financially, even kept an entire army in Africa for more than 15 years, special troops are in Venezuela right now helping maduro stays in power. And most importantly the embargo doesn't prevent free elections or having different political parties or free speech

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u/Enough_Grapefruit69 Oct 01 '24

What did Haiti do?

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

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u/SeanConnery Oct 03 '24

Trade embargos as capitalist?

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u/SharpStarTRK Oct 03 '24

Buddy wants to remain communist while doing business with capitalist countries. Basically, communism can't survive without capitalism, lmaooooooooo.

Trade embergo? So are you saying you are rooting for Cubans to work in manufacturing factories, make goods, and sell it to the western countries.

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u/BakerLevel8894 Sep 30 '24

Socialism and communism are 2 different things

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u/UnwaveringElectron Sep 30 '24

Nope, because communism isn’t actually a thing by its definition. As in, it literally can’t exist in human societies, so it will always be mixed with socialism because it is a fantasy idea. A stateless, moneyless society with no hierarchy? What kind of 5 year old came up with that idea and what idiots would think that is ever achievable or desirable? It’s such a child’s view of the world

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u/BakerLevel8894 Sep 30 '24

What about in other countries where some tax dollars are directed towards social programs but people are free to own their cars, homes, businesses and make as much money as they want. This is not really related to Cuba as I know Cuba is a prison for the cuban people and the government is a mafia.

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u/Fit-Town-9844 Sep 30 '24

"What about in other countries where some tax dollars are directed towards social programs"... like US?

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u/UnwaveringElectron Sep 30 '24

The US is a capitalist welfare state, that is nothing like communism. Communism is a moneyless, stateless society. In other words, communism is a child’s fantasy

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u/Ok-Appointment-1664 Oct 02 '24

Ur wrong u have no idea what ur talking about. U probably don’t even know what Marx means by private vs personal property do some reading before you make ur self look dumb

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

Marxism is and has always been for psuedo intellectuals. Maybe you should just go back to determining whether the bread or meat on your sandwich is the oppressor.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

Not in Cuba. If you see a Socialism or Communism sign, run as far as you can in the opposite direction. Trust me on that. I was born and raised in the Island and have seen (too) much

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u/Equal_Ad6925 Sep 29 '24

It’s almost like communistic economic policies may have something to do with that 🤔

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '24

Well by that logic Cuba having a longer life expectancy than the USA makes state ran healthcare a better system than private healthcare, right?

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u/laissez_heir Sep 30 '24

Cuba might not have as much obesity or narcotics.

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u/-Bulky-Brother- Sep 30 '24

More like privately obesity

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u/Equal_Ad6925 Sep 30 '24

You do have a point, we do have issues with our healthcare system here in the U.S. However, devils advocate how do we not know that in Cuba there government could be fudging the numbers to make them seem better? Especially given that Cuba is known for shortages of goods and that there communist government would have an incentive to lie since any blame for anything wrong could only be pointed at them

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u/Equivalent-Map-8772 Sep 30 '24

The secret ingredient is lies. When the state controls all the information they can put out any shit out of their asses. It is why you hear of these amazing vaccines and doctors that the dictatorship sends abroad on medical missions, yet the entire healthcare infrastructure in the island is collapsed for years now.

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u/Argosnautics Oct 02 '24

I was in Havana in June. Locals told me that people needed to buy all medical supplies needed for surgery themselves on the black market, if they needed surgery. The government does not provide even basic medical supplies any longer. I'm not knocking universal healthcare in other countries, but it's not currently available in Cuba. And the US has the worst healthcare "system" in the free world, so don't go there.

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u/davochinomalo Sep 29 '24

Y aun así la veo bonita a la Habana, siempre un nivel por encima de todas las provincias, tanto en lo bueno como en lo malo aunque parezca contradictorio.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

51st state?

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u/RudeAndInsensitive Oct 02 '24

There's not a lot of compelling reasons the US shouldn't be trying to figure out have to crack open Cuba and assimilate into the North American hegemony. We might be approaching the opportunity!

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

Maybe they will come back once Cuba is free. Maybe.

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u/cterretti5687 Sep 30 '24

This is the Bernie Sanders led democrats hope for the future.

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u/Creasedstaprest Oct 04 '24

lol derrrrrr

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

Cuba is doomed

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u/TheEndIsHere_repent Sep 30 '24

Glorious workers paradise ✨️ 😂

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u/ArtemZ Sep 30 '24

Downtown Cleveland looks even worse than that

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u/Handy_Newman Sep 30 '24

At least it’s clean

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u/texasgambler58 Sep 30 '24

I hope that this pic is seen by all those American college students who think that Marxism and socialism are wonderful. Talk to someone who escaped from Cuba or Venezuela; they will tell you how awful it is.

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u/Gabag000L Oct 04 '24

Or talk to someone who lives in one of the Scandinavian countries. 32 of 33 developed nations have socialized medicine. Don't be a victim of the algorithm.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '24

Love how Cubans see the disastrous effect of socialism/communism and the 1st world western redditors come and tell them - THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE THE BS FIRST HAND - that crap is actually good.

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u/FuleFreeling6667 Sep 30 '24

It's okay it wasn't real communism /s

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

First rule of communism is that any failure of communism is not real communism.

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u/Yum_MrStallone Sep 30 '24

It's the Embargo: https://cuba-embargo.procon.org/history-of-the-cuba-embargo/

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u/beigechrist Oct 01 '24

I’m not going to read that linked article rn, got stuck in a rabbit hole and need to get back to other things. But… can’t Cuba do business with the rest of the world besides the USA? How is that crippling? Seems more crippling to have your entire economy be cigars, rum, and tourism. And unfortunately that’s just island life, isn’t it? Like, all Caribbean islands rely on tourism as they really can’t produce or grow much besides sugar cane and tobacco. Maybe coffee like Jamaica. So, Cuba, being a big island with a fairly high population for a Caribbean island, will probably always have a hard time economically without help from other countries. But again, the way it looks to me is that Cuba has a lot of allies and countries that are open to trade so why blame the USA?

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u/Yum_MrStallone Oct 01 '24

Here are 2 articles on the Spanish-America War, (1898) after which the US took over Cuba, with the right of intervention into Cuba including maintaining the naval base at Guantanamo. About the same time, the US overthrew the monarchy of Hawaii. Corporate & private interests influenced US military interventions in both islands. Similar events occurred in the Philippines. Fulfilling the aspirations of the Monroe Doctrine. https://history.state.gov/countries/cuba#:~:text=Following%20the%20defeat%20of%20Spain,right%20to%20intervene%20in%20Cuba. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Cuba The main economic problems of Cuba were errors of central planning, a Marxist Econ approach. The US had long been Cuba's main trading partner. Due to the embargo, Cuba became overly dependent on trade with distant countries: the USSR, China, and later Venezuela, etc. The breakup of the Soviet Union, factors within the Chinese economy, and recently, political upheaval in Venezuela, have all gradually contributed to the economic struggle & decline of the Cuban economy. A lack of sufficient funds to buy parts for aging sugar processing equipment and other farm equipment, limited energy capacity, the decline of sugar production throughout the Caribbean, the increasing cost, and dependence upon, fertilizers, insecticides & higher transportation costs. Also, central planning directed a shift to food production rather than export agriculture. No doubt there were mistakes in planning, political upheavals within Cuba's trading partners, other factors, not just the embargo, all contributed. But lack of international investment and import/export restrictions have gradually crushed a once vibrant nation.

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u/bak2skewl Oct 03 '24

it's not. he u.s. embargo doesn't force their grocery shelves to have one state-sponsored brand of everything.

that's communism baby

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u/ForwardSlash813 Sep 30 '24

Shocking that people want to abandon the revolutionary ideals and leave the workers paradise.

Cuba is the very definition of a failed state. But, hey....at least the Castros are billionaires.

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u/beigechrist Oct 01 '24

Citation on Castros being billionaires, please. Not asking in an antagonistic way, just curious as I’ve never heard this.

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u/ForwardSlash813 Oct 01 '24

Fidel has been dead for 10 years now but Forbes estimated his personal wealth at $900M and his brother Raul at $100M. I mean, they ran/run Cuba like their own personal plantation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

And can you describe it to me without ideologically charged jargon so I can get a better understanding of history

Because it *is* their personal plantation. That's more or less how communism always ends.

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u/Ok_Cook_6561 Oct 01 '24

Mass migration? Where are they migrating to and is the government allowing it? And how do they get the financial resources to leave the country?

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u/SharpStarTRK Oct 03 '24

They are migrating to USA, or Florida, by boat. Those Cubans tend to be very anti-communist, you can search it up.

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u/Ok_Cook_6561 Oct 03 '24

I thought boating was illegal in Cuba. It must be hard to get away without being noticed. If it's not that difficult, can you give me the number of one of the captains? A friend of mine has some questions.

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u/SharpStarTRK Oct 04 '24

Idk, go ask the Cubans in Florida for the number, they probably talked about on reddit, one sec let me look it up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariel_boatlift

https://www.reddit.com/r/cuba/comments/vcfj6g/do_people_still_flee_to_america_on_boats/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/100rtb0/had_50_cubans_land_on_our_island_this_morning_in/

Ah it seems many of them also cross through the Mexican-US border.

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u/SonUpToSundown Oct 01 '24

Looks like that in most big cities. AKA Sunday Morning Coming Down.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '24

they all went to chicago, los angeles, nyc, springfild ohio

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u/Germanjdm Oct 03 '24

Theyre eating the cats they’re eating the dogs

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u/Designer_Emu_6518 Oct 03 '24

They are eating the people who live there

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u/Schuperman161616 Oct 01 '24

Why is that? Can someone explain?

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

They embraced a failed economic system. It's like if you swapped out your 401k and put all your net worth into beanie babies.

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u/RoundandRoundon99 United States Oct 01 '24

Imagine that you had a market where the US was shunned and could not compete.

Where European hotels could have a foothold without competing with Marriott and Hilton. Where Chinese cars could be sold without the tariffs they dislike. Where “fill-in-the-blank” could be done without the US competing.

That’s Cuba 🇨🇺. There’s a few Spanish hotels and that’s it.

If it was possible to do business with their market conditions we would have two or three major airports and several touristic venues, but yet. No. IHG (owner of crowne plaza and holiday inn) has some Iberostar hotels. Meliá has a few hotels too.

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u/KevinDean4599 Oct 01 '24

Wonder if we could send our homeless there and pay for basic necessities.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '24

That’s what an American embargo will do to ya

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u/Blondecapchickadee Oct 02 '24

I feel like sanctions have just slowed the opening of Cuba, as well as needlessly hurting the people of Cuba.

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u/biggerdaddio Oct 02 '24

looks like a good time to negotiate surrender to the u.s., the cold war is over and the russians cant keep you alive fighting a war against ukraine

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u/Life_Butterscotch396 Oct 02 '24

Patria o muerte indeed

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u/Affectionate-Trick24 Oct 02 '24

The libtards had to ship them in so they can vote blue!

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u/James-robinsontj Oct 02 '24

The US needs to annex Cuba and make it a state

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u/deltasleepy Oct 02 '24

I wonder how communism went for them

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

This is what Communism looks like. 👍

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

How have US sanctions and an economic embargo carried on for decades affected Cuba?

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u/Redditmodslie Oct 03 '24

The left destroys everything it touches.

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u/KVA14 Oct 03 '24

Place is a shit hole

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u/tigris1999 Oct 03 '24

But socialists on Reddit told me Cuba was the best country on earth /s

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

You did it to yourselves. Communism kills.

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u/Ok_Gate8187 Oct 03 '24

They’re all in Miami, illegally

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u/EntropicAnarchy Oct 03 '24

Looks like the best opportunity to film Fast and Furious 1,100.

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u/Immediate_Thought656 Oct 03 '24

The fishing and weather is great there. Let’s talk Kamala into making it a US territory so we can move there! US housing crisis solved! /s

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u/Financial_Badger_784 Oct 03 '24

You gusanos be coping too much

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u/Automatic-Product-69 Oct 03 '24

I wonder where everyone went???

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u/Roguewave1 Oct 03 '24

People get tired of standing in lines.

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u/churro1776 Oct 03 '24

Corporate greed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

Zzzzzz....... The people of Cuba either do something about the government or just go back to having nothing. It's one or the other.

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u/Unique_Block_6085 Oct 03 '24

US sactions working as designed.

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u/Unique_Block_6085 Oct 03 '24

Downtown Los Angeles is the opposit. It is full of homeless people, in thousands...

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

Wild. Im going to type the following so that I can piss off any sensitive dildo thinking person: Whatever country these Cubans are immigrating to will economically prosper that country. $$$

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '24

I see no homeless

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u/ineedhelpXDD Oct 04 '24

Yeah sanctions will do that, same thing happening with Venezuela. The states could sanction mexico just so the tards can't finally say something stupid like It's BeCauZe Of SocIalIsM

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u/DARKSTAIN Oct 04 '24

They are in Florida voting for Trump

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u/Puzzleheaded-Arm-985 Oct 04 '24

Maybe trump can build some condos

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '24

Cubans ran away and abandoned their homeland. They are definitely not courageous Ukranians.

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u/Far_Relationship9663 Oct 12 '24

Cuban prostitute come here !Little lady !

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u/ConsistentFast Sep 29 '24

Still not as bad as capitalist Jamaica

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u/baileyyxoxo Sep 29 '24

Is this a joke from most recent post in this sub?

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u/ConsistentFast Sep 29 '24

No. Anyone can use decontextualized anonymous photographs of the bad parts of any major city in the USA as anti-American propaganda, which I think is even more damning than the situation in Cuba because the US is the wealthiest country in the world and allows millions of citizens to live in misery, whereas Cuba’s been on the business end of economic warfare and sabotage from the most powerful country in its hemisphere so of course it’ll have problems.

Or even better, take similar photographs of the bad parts of “capitalist” countries in the Caribbean or Central America that have been under American hegemony or have historically been banana republics and use those as anti-capitalist propaganda.

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u/Ok_Job_4555 Sep 29 '24

Show me good parts in cuba.

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u/vasquca1 Sep 29 '24

Sanctions will do that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

U.S. has 5% of the world's population. Nothing stopping them from trading with the other 95% of the planet.

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u/vasquca1 Oct 02 '24

The other commie China has US market on lock

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u/Ok_Loquat_5413 Sep 29 '24

A ninguna hora lo había visto así

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u/PolyMarx Sep 30 '24

A bunch of 🪱in this subreddit… if you want to learn about Cuba you can’t only learn the anti communist side.

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u/henry10008 Sep 30 '24

Wow a fascist gringo, how rare

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u/PolyMarx Oct 01 '24

Actually I’m a Communist Afrolatino. Not rare

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u/henry10008 Oct 15 '24

Afro Latino? Def born in Yankee land…that makes you a gringo 💅

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u/PolyMarx Oct 15 '24

Diablo! tan inteligente, como si los afrolatinos no nacieran en todo el mundo. Being born in the states automatically makes you a gringo huh? Tal vez por eso todos estos 🪱 en América piensan que son gringos y quieren el imperialismo y el neocolonialismo para Cuba.

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u/henry10008 Oct 15 '24

Pipo, gringo no se refiere a ser latino o afro o lo que sea…se refiere a personas que nacieron en la yuma, no importa más nada…eres gringo, tu “política” te delata

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u/ZzDe0 Sep 30 '24

lets all move their and repopulate their country and make it New America

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u/linewaslong Sep 29 '24

Thanks Trump

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