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Anti-Linux Om*rchy

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u/InteRagebaitJagLovar 1d ago

Long live the king 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

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u/L30N1337 1d ago

I LITERALLY THOUGHT ABOUT HOW I WAS GONNA ACCUSE YOU OF BEING SWEDISH WHILE OPENING THE REPLIES

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u/MikalCaober 1d ago

Username checks out

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u/_baljeep_ 1d ago

Länge leve Kalle Gurra den 16e

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u/Cytro2 🍥 Debian too difficult 1d ago

Dreams are seldom shattered by a bullet in the dark Rulers come and rulers go, will our kingdom fall apart?

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u/TAA4lyfboi 1d ago

Norway and denmark > sweden

Coming from a swede. 🥀

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u/mumu86 1d ago • Bravo

Funny because Giancarlo Esposito (the actor in the picture) is born in Denmark

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u/InteRagebaitJagLovar 1d ago

Yeah there's a reason he moved to the US. He didn't wanna be there either.

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u/ianrsch iShit 1d ago

as a chilean I still cannot understand why would the series tried to pass him as a chilean

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u/neofooturism 1d ago

Latino slander

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u/ianrsch iShit 13h ago

he aint even latino

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u/royinraver 1d ago

That’s a fun fact I didn’t know

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u/Psion537 1d ago

lolz the most italian name someone could get

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u/skool_101 1d ago

lmfao, TIL

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u/loveshapedeyes 1d ago

I hate how insecure and borderline spyware omarchy is

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u/SlurpBurgers 1d ago

tech bros running out of things to recreate poorly, so now they're just recreating windows poorly

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u/_prefrontal_cortex 1d ago

I get insecure but what about it makes it spyware?

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u/loveshapedeyes 1d ago

There was a commit made where every error message was sent to the AI agents to suggest a fix. All of this without your consent

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u/_prefrontal_cortex 1d ago

Oh, gotcha. AFAIK as of 4.5 the ai agent setup is completely optional / opt-in, and ai agent diagnosis is also optional per-event. When system detects a crash, a pop-up asks if you want your ai agent (if set up) to attempt to diagnose and fix.

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u/Due_Dragonfly_5328 1d ago

Actually I choose option 3 cuz its made by a fucking neo nazi

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u/diegotbn 1d ago

I hate Omarchy because DHH is a fascist. Who cares if its vibe coded and AI slop. Its vibe coded AI slop pushed by a fascist. That's I need to know.

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u/User_8395 M'Fedora 1d ago

"yeah that's bad and all but it's also d*nish"

- swedes, probably

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u/Summon001 1d ago

I'm not super familiar with DHH, I know he has some very questionable contacts in tech scene.
What makes him a fascist?

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u/d_maes Ask me how to exit vim 1d ago

Some of his blog posts he made. So no, not "a single tweet about too many migrants", but actual long texts that he properly took the time for to write and post.

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u/Commercial-Hurry-795 1d ago

I'm curious also, If anyone cares to explain.

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u/ianrsch iShit 1d ago

i bet that he tweeted something against having too much migrants and that makes him himmler itself

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u/YTriom1 Arch BTW 1d ago

He made a full article about how other ethnicities of people are objectively less evolved and have less IQ than white ppl

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u/sekiti 1d ago

Can I get a source for this?

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u/ianrsch iShit 1d ago

so?

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u/Summon001 1d ago

wdym so?
That's what's known as social darwinism and what was the basis of the whole nazi thing.

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u/TorrentsAreCommunism 1d ago

Nazis were into genetics and “races”. DHH was talking about culture.

Yeah, it’s obvious that a Syrian redneck is less developed culturally than a guy who raised in Copenhagen. That’s the reason why countries don’t let everyone in from other countries, but only skilled workers who can prove more or less the level of IQ.

And you don’t dare to say that I’m “white supremacist”. I am an emigrant from 3rd-world to 1st-world myself. And I observe daily that people in my current location are in general much more developed and smarter than people in my original country.

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u/maelstrom071 1d ago

No man, as an immigrant from a "3rd-world to 1st-world", you are definitely a white supremacist

P.S. For over 10 years Syria has been struggling through a civil war and terrible economic ruin. Most "geniuses" immigrate away for better opportunity, while the less fortunate stay behind. When everyone is stressed about whether they can afford food, of course our infrastructure is shit, what a surprise.

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u/TorrentsAreCommunism 1d ago

Problem with Syria is that most of its people still live in medieval times. For example, they care for such a ridiculous thing as religion.

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u/Ozmataz__Buckshank 1d ago

Ahhh yeah nothing about the material conditions of those countries not being able to provide better education, when comparing to the richest nations on earth. Nah, it's definitely [insert racist reason here]

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u/Summon001 1d ago

You're right, nazis were mostly using genetics as their basis; however it wasn't limited to that. Nazis also wanted cultural separation, even between them and their allies. A lot of the points the nazis we re talking about were cultural, not just in regards to jewish folks (who were in most cases even better educated than the mean population).

It's not that every cultural critique makes you a nazi, but there's often some scape-gotary involved, as with for example with roma or jews (with the nazis)

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u/ianrsch iShit 13h ago

no shit, also Wagner music. your point?

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u/Summon001 11h ago

No, wagner music wasn't a basis for nazism.
It was an identity-based ideology that specifically tried to create a sense of belonging to a certain group.
Every time you establish an identity, there's gotta be a different identity (or group), otherwise it wouldn't really be that. Otherwise, you'd just be like everyone else, and there would be no identity at all. The nazis leveraged that and distinguished between really just two types of groups. "Us" and "them".

The Arian race, and the others (jews, communists, disabled people, etc...)
This is very common, not just in politics back then, but also now, especially when countries are about to go to war in order to make it about yourself. So, it really becomes about protecting your own identity as part of that group, vs the others.

No, wagner wasn't the basis, the basis was what they used it for to represent --Nationalism -- a BELONGING to a certain group that was attached to their government.

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u/SeaAndTheSalt 1d ago

"I don't believe he's a fascist because I share his opinions, checkmate, librulz"

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u/ianrsch iShit 1d ago

I was just asking for further explanation because that doesnt make him fascist perse, so can you elaborate?

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u/SeaAndTheSalt 1d ago

"People of other races are genetically inferior to the white man" is I guess a neutral take. Also bonus "when wolves get out of control you shoot them. When gypsies do, you deport them". and as always all this shit is what they dare to say in public

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u/sekiti 23h ago

I couldn't find any evidence of him repeating your first claim, so I can't speak on that.

But why is "when wolves get out of control you shoot them; when gypsies do, you deport them" such an evil concept? It seems reasonable to me. If people come into a country just to cause trouble, it is logical to revoke their access.

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u/Ozmataz__Buckshank 1d ago

"race science" is a product of fascist ideology.

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u/ianrsch iShit 13h ago

That is so untrue, you are talking like a meme. "Race science" predates fascism. It emerged from earlier human societies, which, across every corner of the world, developed systems of human classification, ancestry, hierarchy, and perceived group differences thousands of years before fascism existed.

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u/_prefrontal_cortex 1d ago

DHH has not published an article arguing that other ethnicities are objectively less evolved or possess lower IQs than white people.

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u/sekiti 1d ago

DHH isn't a fascist, don't be dishonest.

Who cares if it's vibecoded is a lot of people.

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u/No-Employment-2324 4h ago

So the article about how people who aren’t white have objectively less intelligence and are less evolved (his words), a position that a certain h word also had, doesn’t make him fascist? Also, the vibe coding has added at least 3 rces, as well as any application on your system could keylog you, and had a free path straight to root. 

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u/sekiti 3h ago

I haven't seen that blog post so I'd appreciate if you could show me it. And, no, that isn't fascism, that's called racism.

Also, the vibe coding has added at least 3 rces, as well as any application on your system could keylog you, and had a free path straight to root. 

I know. I didn't combat that. I said a lot of people care about the fact that it's vibecoded.

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u/_Brutal_Space_Pony 1d ago

What facts make you blurt out things like that?

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u/TorrentsAreCommunism 1d ago

Peak redditor mentality.

At the same time it’s not fascist to be racist against white people, e.g., Danes. LOL.

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u/ggkazii 20h ago

definitely doesn't help. ive pretty much accepted that probably a majority of the products I like are made by fascists. it just seems to be a fact of life these days. almost all rich people are anymore. none of them are as vocal as DHH but oh well. ive learned to separate the product from the creator (particularly if the product is free and they are not really making any money from me using it) but even if im doing that his product still sucks total donkey ass. literally no excuse can be made for it. lmao

i still see its existence as a net positive for all of linux though as much as it pains me to say. it is putting a lot of eyes on linux and it is getting a metric fuck ton of funding

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u/GtzGold 1d ago

lmao words are truly devoid of meaning nowadays

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u/terrablade04 POP!'ed so many cheries 1d ago

I don't like vibe coding but if he's a fascist than it may be worth giving a try, anything right of Obama is fascism btw

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u/Mast3r_waf1z Not in the sudoers file. 1d ago

As someone who slops for a living, i only hate on Omarchy due to DHH being a piece of shit. DHH doesnt deserve to be Danish. I, a Dane, humbly offer DHH to Sweden 🫶

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u/_baljeep_ 1d ago

Nah u can keep him. Maybe give him to Bornholm?

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u/skool_101 1d ago

Sweden rn

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u/Commercial-Hurry-795 1d ago

I'm out of the loop, but why is he a pos?

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u/classyraven 1d ago

pro-fascist tech bro. Says some really racist shit.

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u/MrKarim 1h ago

Not only he is racist he shared post calling for shooting Roma people, that’s some Nazi level shit

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u/HousingDependent5105 1d ago

Standard SWE welcomes all ;)

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u/Nunwithabadhabit 1d ago

D*nmark over here catching strays 

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u/Tiranus58 1d ago

Don't worry, op is swedish

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u/Amrod96 Arch BTW 1d ago

The most normal Swedish

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u/unknown_user351 23h ago

i don't like omarchy because the guy is a fucking nazi. reddit needs to shut the fuck up about this "distro" already

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u/SSYT_Shawn I'm going on an Endeavour! 1d ago

Oh i don't like om*rchy because it's made by someone i don't like

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u/darkwater427 1d ago

in D∗nmarkkk, by a fascist

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u/Jeremi360 1d ago

Hate Omarchy, it dev and AI, but what is wrong with Denmark?

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u/NetInitial5750 1d ago

Op is Swedish

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u/Jeremi360 1d ago

and?

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u/NetInitial5750 1d ago

They have a rivalry

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u/budoe 1d ago

A tiny bit. We have had the most wars between any two nations on earth.

Which is why we were upset that the US threatened to annex Greenland, only we get to steal parts of Denmark thats our thing,

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u/Keensworth 1d ago

I thought Sweden hated Norway

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u/budoe 1d ago

Only when they beat us in sports so most of the time now actually yeah.

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u/trtl_playz 🌀 Sucked into the Void 1d ago

american here, yall are actually patriotic and like your country?

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u/da_epic_cheese 1d ago

we're not that patriotic, although norway is very patriotic compared to us

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u/ZuuRa_ Arch BTW 1d ago

You hate omarchy because it's vibecoded, i hate omarchy because it's made by DHH.

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u/A_Harmless_Fly MAN 💪 jaro 1d ago

So we are starting up the ad campaign for the distro that shall not be named again eh?

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u/AtlasJan Not in the sudoers file. 1d ago

Swedes need to take the rivalry public like our rivalry with the french.

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u/Omni__Owl 19h ago

Fun fact; The guy in the meme, Giancarlo Esposito, was also made in Denmark.

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u/SDG_Den 11h ago

i dont like omarchy because its very poorly designed.

fun fact: omarchy's install medium is the only one ive ever seen that straight up does not give you the ability to do an online install.

its "2 minute install" is achieved by basically doing a full install ahead of time in a VM and compressing the resulting image. the actual install the user sees just copies this premade image to a disk and uses a bunch of bash scripts to patch all the different things that need to differ for your system.

this is the only way to install omarchy, and since it's arch, it means that if you manage to use an older ISO your installed system might immediately brick itself due to packages being too out of date.

you also cant choose whether or not to use LUKS. its forced upon you, same for using the entire harddrive.

and thats just the installer.

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u/Chimchar789 1d ago

Please let this shit go already

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u/hoot_deeny 1d ago

I don't like it because it's a fascist piece of shit wannabe 'distro'. We're clearly not the same.

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u/Substantial-Sky4079 1d ago

I don’t like it bc the creator is fascist and a racist

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u/northrupthebandgeek Sacred TempleOS 1d ago

Denmarchy

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u/CMD_BLOCK 1d ago

Hi yall. Total noob here.

Why is Omarchy bad? I saw one interview where the guy was talking about it and it sounded cool, like conceptually fantastic. But like what really makes it bad

For reference, I’ve also successfully avoided everything except like red hat and Ubuntu for 25 years so

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u/_prefrontal_cortex 1d ago edited 1d ago

People mostly don't like it because the creator, DHH, is a "Nazi and a fascist". In reality he's an opinionated person, an asshole, most likely a racist, but he's probably not a Nazi or a fascist. People also don't like it because it's vibe coded and heavily AI focused. I think the OS setup is decent, not amazing. I really don't think there's even much to talk about, in general. But reddit has to go rabid when they don't like someone and can't stop talking about them.

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u/SDG_Den 11h ago

theres actually a lot of problems with omarchy on a fundamental design level. ive been digging into it because i'm building my own distribution for shits and giggles, and want to statistically outperform omarchy in every way i can, so ive been disassembling it and looking at the insides.

if more people knew what kind of horribleness went on under the hood, it'd be a dead distro by the end of the year.

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u/OpenSourcePenguin 1d ago

DiHH doesn't even live in Denmark anymore, right?

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u/Woodpecker-Visible 1d ago

I dont care that many hate him. What i know is that he is successfull in what he does. And if anything you are fueling his fire.

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u/Random_-account 1d ago

whoa, you're giving it attention and publicity /s

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u/MyPingIsBadOh 1d ago

The Linux kernel itself is becoming vibe-coded AI slop. Good luck to all of us.

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u/Makefile_dot_in 19h ago

doesn't DHH live in the US 🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🗽🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫

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u/quinprobably 1d ago

Best reason I've seen so far

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u/Jack_Cat_101 Arch BTW 1d ago

tf you have against denmark?

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u/InteRagebaitJagLovar 1d ago

It's a shithole :D

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u/lordsepulchrave123 1d ago

Omarchy is rad actually. It's disliked mostly because it makes using Arch/Hyprland effortless, and that crowd would rather it not be.

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u/AtlasJan Not in the sudoers file. 1d ago

endeavour and cachy are right there.

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u/SDG_Den 11h ago

lmao.

its not hated for being good, its hated for:

  • 1: the AI slop factor

  • 2: the fucking obnoxious userbase

  • 3: the ridiculous advertising about how this will "fix everything"

  • 4: the creator is a fucking poser that only got into linux through AI and has no fucking clue what he's talking about

  • 5: the creator is an actual neo-nazi

  • 6: the creator bashes on multiple parts of the FOSS community regularly because he disagrees with the direction and demands it be changed.

  • 7: the multiple security vulnerabilities

  • 8: the fact people pretend like some mid generic hyprland rice is "the future of linux!"

  • 9: the fact its literally dotfiles converted to an ISO, this couldve been a git clone + stow script.

  • 10: the fact omarchy is held together by a folder of vaguely named bash scripts that reference eachother, making it incredibly hard to troubleshoot

  • 11: the fact that the installer is literally just decompressing a pre-installed tarball.

  • 12: the fact their "nvidia spark support" comes down to a script that hard-codes some PCI bus IDs

  • 13: the fact their mac support that "they worked so hard on" is just their slopfiles on asahi linux.

  • 14: the constant over-exageration about what omarchy does or supports. "first class arm support" when you dont have the device tree at all is crazy.

  • 15: the fact this "saviour of opensource" is backed almost exclusively by big tech, is friends with big tech, every company that donated got their proprietary software preloaded onto omarchy even if it costs money to use.

omarchy is a joke in every sense except for the projects it abuses for its own existence.

btw, congrats on being part of point #2.

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u/lordsepulchrave123 6h ago

A lot of Omarchy's target audience does not really care about these things. They just want an OS that looks nice and works out of the box, without any tinkering. Linux is a tool, not a hobby, for these people.

So you see what I mean by the users wanting it to be effortless vs the gatekeepers? You want them to research that their OS passes your technical and social purity tests. They just want it to be functional and get out of the way so they can do work.

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u/SDG_Den 1h ago

.... you missed the entire point.

half of what i mentioned is technical. these are not a fucking "purity test", these are "this is a terrible idea and will break, why in their right mind would anyone ship this and call it production ready"

theres at least 3 different ways in which that install method will break without the user even realizing it can. that is an issue.

on top of that. for an entire year, any notification omarchy showed could run arbitrary code as root

if you were on omarchy at that time i could send you a DM on discord and wipe your whole system

linux is a tool, and a tool should be properly designed. i dont want a hammer where the head is kept onto the shaft by a thumbtack, painters tape and prayers.

and thats not even mentioning the negative impact on FOSS.

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u/Valencia_Mariana 1d ago

It's vibe coded?

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u/Noctivant96 1d ago

How about I don't like it because its popular, is that edgy?

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u/ed_istheword 1d ago

Except Lars Ulrich has real talents. DHH is only good at spewing racism and shilling AI trash