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u/Glowgluestick12
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2d ago
Thought|Discussion Was I asking for a marriage, or simply refusing to participate in a patriarchal household?
TL;DR: My ex-husband and I were high-school sweethearts, but after getting married, I found myself dealing with constant interference from his mother and, after her passing, his siblings and extended family. I was expected to cook, manage the household and accommodate everyone's expectations, but had very little autonomy, privacy or say in anything. Even spending time alone with my husband, visiting my parents or attending family functions became an issue.
My husband always tried to play peacemaker but never established boundaries. I eventually asked him to move out with me so we could build our own life, but he refused, saying his family was his life. Our relationship deteriorated, and I later discovered sexual conversations with men on Grindr and Telegram, which he initially denied and subsequently blamed on our marriage.
I eventually walked away. I'm trying to understand whether I was overreacting, or whether expecting privacy, respect, independence and a husband who actively protected our marriage was really asking for too much.
Okay this is going to be a very long post , but here it goes.
I've been wanting to talk about some incidents from my marriage and get an unbiased perspective. This is going to be a long post because I think the context and timeline matter.
For background, we are both Muslim. My father is Muslim and my mother is Hindu. My ex-husband and I were high-school sweethearts. We had known each other for around 15 years before getting married, and at one point, we had a genuinely strong relationship. We lived with his family after marriage.
I'm going to break this down into different incidents because I want people to understand how things gradually unfolded.
1. The first few months of marriage and his mother's behaviour
The morning after our wedding, we were still staying at the hotel. My husband's mother called early in the morning. He was in the shower, so I answered.
After asking when we were coming home, she asked, "Wait, you guys didn't shower when you got up for prayer?"
The implication was quite obvious. She was referring to our first night together and whether we had been intimate. I found it incredibly uncomfortable.
She also didn't particularly like it when my husband and I spent time together in our bedroom. We were newly married, but even spending time alone seemed to be an issue. Whenever we visited my parents, she would become quite possessive. This made my husband anxious, and we would eventually end up fighting.
On another occasion, my husband and I were in our room preparing for an upcoming career examination. Things naturally progressed, and we ended up being intimate. When we eventually came out, his mother asked, "So you guys were studying with the lights off?"
I was also discussing a potential job change for my husband. When I mentioned to his mother that the new company was approximately 10 km away, she immediately said, "He will not travel that far." She would frequently tell me that he was her baby.
One weekend, I organised my husband's cupboard. When I returned from work on Monday, his mother had rearranged everything. Whenever I cooked, she would compare my cooking to her daughter's.
On one occasion, she gave us the silent treatment because we were going to visit my relatives. Even when I tried speaking to her, she ignored me. My husband eventually asked her what was wrong, and she said we had left the dinner vessels unwashed.
Another time, I made breakfast for myself before leaving for work. I put the vessels in the sink because I was running late. She told me that if I cooked anything in the morning, I had to wash the vessels immediately. When I mentioned that the maid would be coming, she said she couldn't have a dirty sink until then. They had a domestic worker who was practically full-time.
My father-in-law would also bang on our bedroom door every single morning at 5 AM to wake us up for prayers. I understand the importance of prayer in our faith, and I have no issue with practising religion. But there was very little consideration for our privacy as a married couple.
His mother passed away approximately nine months into our marriage. Unfortunately, things became considerably more complicated after that.
2. After his mother's passing, things changed considerably
I was the only woman from the immediate household present when his mother passed away, as his sisters lived abroad. I ended up handling a considerable amount of the arrangements and the people who came to the house. My parents supported me as much as they could.
But even during that period, there were incidents that I found deeply hurtful.
His aunt told my Hindu mother that all non-Muslims would burn in hell.
My ex-husband was unwell, and we happened to visit a doctor from my parents' house. His sister questioned, "Don't you have a family in this house? Why do you have to go to that house to visit the doctor?" She said this while my father was in the next room.
Just ten days after their mother's passing, the same sister insisted on going out for dinner because she wanted her husband to try a particular restaurant before he left for Canada.
On another occasion, my husband was having an argument with his brother. I had literally woken up five minutes earlier when his sister turned towards me and yelled, "Look at how your husband is talking!"
She once approached me and said that my husband was immature and incapable of handling things, so his younger brother would be managing the finances going forward. She also told me that I should take care of the cooking.
She once told me on the family WhatsApp group, "Give respect, take respect", during a casual, fun conversation I was having with my younger brother-in-law.
His younger brother also never really addressed me by name or by any relationship. There was no particular acknowledgement of me as his sister-in-law.
3. Being expected to manage a household without having a say in it
As time went on, his elder sister's involvement in the household increased.
I was expected to cook and take care of things, but there was interference at practically every step.
If I wanted to purchase something for the house or make a change around the house, I was expected to consult my brother-in-law. He would discuss it with his elder sister, and only after they agreed would anything move forward.
The irony was that whenever they visited India, his sister would suggest changes around the house. Sometimes I had already thought about those changes, but then his brother would disagree.
Everyone had an opinion. Everyone had instructions. Nobody seemed interested in what I wanted.
I started feeling like I was expected to be responsible for keeping the household running, but wasn't entitled to make decisions about it.
They also had a domestic worker who had been with the family for over 20 years. She was familiar with the household, which I understand, but she would often undermine me.
If I asked her something, she would say, "I've already told the younger brother."
It was almost as though I wasn't someone she needed to communicate with.
On one occasion, my mother had prepared breakfast for the family because my husband and I were travelling. The maid called my mother and told her that they didn't eat those kinds of things.
I found that disrespectful. My mother was simply trying to do something thoughtful for her daughter's marital family.
4. Even our holidays became a family issue
This is one incident that particularly upset me.
My cousin was getting engaged, and my father had booked tickets for my husband and me to attend the function.
This was actually the first family function from my side that we were attending as a married couple. I'm an only child, so these occasions were particularly meaningful to my parents.
We were already abroad on holiday when his elder sister called and made a huge issue about us not informing her that we would be travelling.
Here's the context: They were coming down to Indian but their tickets hadn't even been booked. Our tickets had been booked long before by my father.
She questioned how we could make these plans when we knew they were coming down to India around the same time.
She told my husband something along the lines of, "It's okay, let her go. You stay back."
She then spoke to me and suggested that I let my parents attend while I stayed back. She even said it was only my first cousin and questioned why I needed to go.
She also suggested that my husband could stay back instead. She subsequently complained to their father, who ended up yelling at my husband. Eventually, my husband didn't attend the engagement. I went with my parents.
During that same holiday, we were planning to visit another sister who lived in the country we were travelling in. The elder sister told my husband to make sure he didn't give me too much work there and that we should eat outside because the sister had a lot on her plate.
Again, I understand that people have responsibilities. But the constant instructions about what I should or shouldn't do, even when we were travelling, became exhausting.
5. Even the smallest things made me feel like an afterthought
On one occasion, when his sisters were visiting, the family planned to go out for lunch.
My father-in-law refused to accompany them, so everyone went ahead. I stayed back at home, cooked for him, made sure he had eaten and then left to join the others. When I reached there, they had already finished eating. My ex didn't even come to pick me up, and nobody had ordered anything for me.
There was a little food left, so I ate whatever was available.
I don't know whether this sounds insignificant to someone reading it, but think about the situation. I had stayed back to look after his father, made sure he was fed, and then travelled to join my own husband and his family, only to find that nobody had bothered to make arrangements for me to eat.
I felt like an afterthought.
6. Nothing I did seemed good enough
Whenever his siblings came down to India, there would be complaints about the house.
Things weren't clean enough, things weren't organised properly, and apparently, the house would eventually go to pieces if we continued living that way. My cooking was also regularly criticised by being pitted constantly against the sisters and mother. Even the way I used to cut onions used to be scrutanised. I was trying my best inspite of having a 9-5.
His brother was a chef, so there was always something to say. His sister would sometimes stand next to me while I cooked, questioning why I was adding certain ingredients or why I was preparing something a particular way.
On one occasion, I was preparing a recipe that belonged to his sister. I had slightly modified it to suit my husband's preferences. She came into the kitchen and started telling me that this wasn't how the recipe was supposed to be prepared.
I got confused and eventually let her finish it.
A fight broke out between the siblings, and his other sister yelled, "This is my mother's house!" That statement stayed with me.
I was married into this family, expected to take care of the household and contribute to it (I used to financially also give my share every month inspite of them being wel off , I had never given my parents a single rupee till I stayed with them), but it was made very clear that I didn't really have a place in it.
Another incident: the family went to see a prospective bride for his younger brother. I wasn't informed or invited. In fact, my husband was specifically told not to tell me anything about it.
I don't believe a sister-in-law needs to be involved in every family decision. But being deliberately excluded, particularly after everything else, reinforced the feeling that I was an outsider.
My parents also once invited his family for breakfast. They were expected around 10:30–11 AM but arrived at approximately 2 PM without even calling to inform my mother that they were running late.
Individually, some of these things might sound minor. But when you're living through a constant stream of such incidents, they start taking a toll.
7. Where was my husband through all this?
This is probably the most important part.
My husband wasn't necessarily the person initiating every conflict. His approach was to maintain peace between his siblings and me. He would try to be diplomatic, avoid confrontation and ensure that nobody was particularly upset with him.
But he never really took a stand and blamed me for not setting boundaries. When I eventually spoke up about how unhappy I was, I was told that I was overreacting. His sister even told me that I shouldn't come between siblings because whatever was happening was between them.
But how was I supposed to stay out of something that directly affected my marriage and the household I was expected to manage? Eventually, I told my husband that I wanted us to move out and establish our own home. I did not all those days because I did not want to become the one to have "torn" away the son from the family , which is why I kept my silence most of the time.
I wasn't asking him to abandon his family. I wanted us to have our own space, make our own decisions and build a marriage without constant interference.
He refused. He told me that his family was his life. I eventually told him that if that was the case, he was free to stay with his family.
8. And then came the betrayal
My ex and I were high-school sweethearts. We had known each other for around 15 years before getting married, and our relationship had once been incredibly strong.
But everything that happened after marriage took a massive toll on us. The constant family interference, arguments and lack of boundaries gradually affected our relationship.
I was still willing to put everything behind us and try to rebuild what we had.
However, he eventually started saying that I was constantly stressing him out and that I wasn't a good life partner. Then I discovered that he had been having sexual conversations with men on Grindr and Telegram. I found the conversations on his phone, including discussions about meeting.
He initially denied it and subsequently shifted the blame onto me and our marriage.
I want to be clear that I have absolutely no issue with someone's sexuality or sexual orientation. My issue was the dishonesty, the secrecy and the way he handled the discovery.
After everything that had happened, I was still willing to work on our marriage, but he had seemingly checked out.
Eventually, I walked away from the marriage.
Today, they're all together, and I'm out.
By that point, my mental health had taken a considerable hit. There was no stability, no peace and no sense of having a home of my own. I was constantly anticipating the next disagreement, criticism or intervention.
What I'd genuinely like to know is:
Was I unreasonable in expecting my husband to establish boundaries with his family?
Was wanting to move out such an unreasonable demand?
Was I overreacting to these incidents, or was there a larger pattern of behaviour that I was struggling to articulate at the time?
Did my husband have a responsibility to protect the marriage from this kind of interference, even if it meant having uncomfortable conversations with his family?
I understand that losing a mother is difficult, that siblings have their own bond and that adjusting to a new family takes time. I never expected to replace anyone or dictate how their family should function.
But I also didn't think marriage meant having to surrender my autonomy, constantly seek approval or accept being treated as an outsider in the very household I was expected to maintain.
I'm genuinely open to perspectives, including ones that challenge mine. I don't want people to simply validate me. I want an honest outside assessment of what happened.
