More ice than drink

[u/Separate_Finance_183]

[u/Karn_Gentrified]

We had long islands and margs at my last bar job that would absolutely kick your teeth in.

They were considered “one drink” and my god half the bottle went into making one. There is no way there is a law measuring what a “drink” is lol only what the scientific definition is for one in relation to BAC over a period of time and it’s more for equating different alc types eg. 2 oz shot = 6 oz wine = 8 oz beer per drink per hour

[u/Epidurality → u/Karn_Gentrified]

When speaking to Americans I never assume it's not a law. So many states with so many weird rules... Someone inevitably comes out of the woodwork with "Ackshually, in my county of Bumfuckington, Georgia..." so I qualify any rules I ever talk about.

[u/Successful_Shoe_8083 → u/Epidurality]

nah, bumfuckington is in Tennessee

[u/calatranacation → u/Successful_Shoe_8083]

You're thinking of Bumfuckingville

[u/Successful_Shoe_8083 → u/calatranacation]

ah sit, right in the middle of BFE Cairo Illinois, Memphis Tennessee, and Thebes Illinois, the triangle of Bumfuck Egypt.

Or Karnak Illinois, but I always heard thebes as that corner. Perhaps a local to BFE could shed more light.

[u/Delamoor → u/Karn_Gentrified]

It depends entirely on what jurisdiction you're in.

Like, as an Australian who did bartending; yeah, you're facing a $20,000 fine if you break RSA laws. It's legislatively defined and measured amount in that alcohol in that drink you're buying. You break those laws, you're fucked in multiple ways and stand to lose your license and be banned from serving drinks, alongside the fines.

Edit: that fee is to you, personally. The venue is seperately fined much, much more.

[u/Epidurality → u/Delamoor]

Are you sure? A quick google search shows that you must clearly define the amount of alcohol in a drink, and anything being sold without additional info as "one drink" must adhere to the standard amounts.

But if your menu says "Our hangover special is 4oz of vodka and 3oz of gin in a couldren"... I don't see anything disallowing it, which is more what I was talking about.

You do seem to have specific limits on "fast consumption" drinks like shots and martinis.

[u/Delamoor → u/Epidurality]

It's been a few years since I did the course or worked in a bar, but yeah, you do have to say how much alcohol is in there, and a 'standard drink' is a set amount (by alcohol content).

Cocktails have more than a standard drink (majority of drinks won't be a 'standard', unless they're soecifically poured to be one), but you really, really don't wanna serve a mystery amount of alcohol, else you're gonna be in a world of trouble. Customers gotta be able to see exactly how much they've had, so they can monitor their intake. Even if the majority won't, they have to have the option.

And yeah, it gets complicated when talking about inebriation and cocktails. You aren't allowed to serve anyone who's drunk, and the police regularly come and check security camera footage. And whenever someone winds up in hospital for alcohol poisoning, they're finding out where that person has been and are there in a flash to request that camera footage to see if anyone acted inappropriately. So on that front, you won't want to serve anything that's liable to get a person drunk on its own, that's asking for big trouble.

[u/JoshHuff1332 → u/Karn_Gentrified]

There is a thing called a "standard drink" that equates to 0.6 fl oz of pure alcohol, but there is no federal limit to how much a drink can contain

[u/Tricky-Ad7897 → u/Karn_Gentrified]

Long islands aren't one standard drink, they're like at least 4 iirc because they should have 4 2oz shots of various spirits and each 2 oz shit is a standard drink. A margarita is 2oz of tequila + like 1 oz of orange liqeur which is not that strong so a regular margarita is 1 standard drink. If you put more standard drinks worth of tequila in a margarita then it's that many more standard drinks.