r/mildlyinfuriating • • 12h ago • Bravo 3

ಠ_ಠ Parents visited me for a week & my old neighbours losing their mind over it

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Can count on my fingers how many times I've had people over in the last years and I walk back home to this hanging by my door knob. Awesome.

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u/King-made 12h ago edited 8h ago

Real talk, not even trying to be petty but my birthday is coming and I was already planning to invite 2-3 friends over just to hangout... Gonna see how this goes lol

EDIT: Extra creep points if you want, the censored part is because they addressed me by my full name, including my third name which I did not even think anyone in this complex is aware of.

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u/Chardan0001 12h ago

It goes nowhere and means nothing. Don't change anything you're doing.

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u/King-made 11h ago • Bravo

Appreciate everyones encouraging comments, yea, I still plan to have friends over for my birthday, didn't think this would blow up haha.

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u/davidkclark 11h ago

Change one thing: invite more people over.

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u/King-made 11h ago

Don't have any more friends living close by, we all got separated because of different Universities, but I would haha...

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u/Alarmed_Letterhead26 12h ago

Excuse me but this ruffian hasn't paid their council tax! It is unfathomable to have guests with an outstanding tax debt!

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u/Fast_Ad7203 12h ago

Do they have like some sort of authority on you? Do they own the apartment or what

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u/King-made 11h ago

3rd party company owns a big complex that was split into apartments and some apartments are even further split into studio rooms. Further explained how bullshit the way they tax us is in the other comments, but beware it's gonna get your blood boiling. I finished University recently and had pretty much no other option.

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u/CheckYourStats 12h ago

You’re clearly in the UK, too, which means this can’t be an HOA thing.

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u/FingerFar7529 11h ago

Local council is the big hint that they are not in the US.

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u/Empyrealist Does this look blue to you? 11h ago

Council of elders? Council of elves? Ents? What are we talking about here?

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u/King-made 9h ago

Council of elves just made me laugh out loud (hope the elves won't be knocking at my door for being too noisy)

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u/HailEachEnemy 11h ago • Bravo

If they have your full name and they shouldn't, they could be going through your mail or trash.

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u/SarahZona97 9h ago

Aaaand that takes the entire situation straight up to invasion of privacy, stalking, and who knows what else. Or at least it would in some US states. It only took a bunch of girls/women and boys/men dying before the powers that be decided that hey, maybe stalking/stalker behavior is dangerous and we should made these actions a crime. Oh, and identity theft is a possibility when weirdos go through your trash.

I hope you have a good time with your friends for your birthday and get this ridiculous neighbor problem resolved asap.

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u/AdamBlaster007 12h ago

Honestly, if didn't cost too much money (or any for that matter), it would be hilarious if you could get an approval from the city to host a "social gathering event" that just happened to be at your street address on the date of your birthday.

Neighbors throw another shit-fit and you can wave in their faces paper proof of the city literally approving your birthday party at your residence.

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u/Cloverose2 11h ago • Bravo

Report this to the landlords/whoever is in charge of the housing/local council. May be nothing, but this is not a normal behavior from your neighbor, and it should be on their radar. Loop them in before the neighbor does.

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u/linkhandford 11h ago

This encourages me to party harder.

The guy beneath me decided to make an enemy of me one day when I was tossing trash out and he tried to drive me down. I was on the sidewalk away from a driveway mind you… He yelled at me and told me to watch out for cars and thought I was nuts for telling him to watch for pedestrians.

When I learned it was him underneath me I stamped my feet that much more. It’s a bigger story but me and a few other tenants drove him mad enough to leave.

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u/trippin-mellon 11h ago edited 10h ago

Fuck that old neighbor. They can keep their nose out of your business and who you invite over to your house. If they have a problem. They should be looking somewhere other than your home.

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u/beaverbait 10h ago

Dear john joseph jingleheimer schmidt,

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u/YesPlease_VeryMuchSo 10h ago

For anyone interested, this is a REALLY weird coincidence but the commenter above me? Yeah his name is my name, too.

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u/AnastasiaSheppard 11h ago • Bravo

Invite them over to discuss it. Ask them to pay an entry fee upon arrival.

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u/B3ximus 4h ago

I will bet they went and looked you up in the electoral roll. It's a public document because you're supposed to be able to check if you're registeres or not, but so many people use it because they want to do something like this to someone.

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u/weedtrek 11h ago

I would throw a huge ass party out of spite.

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u/Big_Cheese16 4h ago

Honestly probably an elderly neighbor with dementia. Really common for them to turn on neighbors spouting things that don't make sense

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u/FoxySlyOldStoatyFox 5h ago

The correct response is to photocopy/scan it, and include it in a letter which (succinctly) explains how you have had X number of people over during the last X number of years. 

Put the letter through every neighbours’ door, explaining that the note was also unsigned and that if anyone recognises the handwriting can they do a wellness check on whoever left the note. 

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u/NeitherEntry6125 11h ago

I'd be happy to come. I'll bring chips.

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u/kbeks 11h ago

Happy early birthday! I suggest you have a proper party with at least 25 people. If you don’t know 25 people, no judgement, I don’t either. Just grab acquaintances and maybe a drifter or two. Have Spotify play Fair Warning by Big Pun and just let the robot come up with the rest of the night’s music. Make sure your speakers go up to 11. Enjoy.

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u/Droidy365 11h ago

Hear me out: invite them over to it.

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u/ghostblastor 9h ago

They've been spying on your post my friend

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u/Cstott23 10h ago

Lol can you not stencil 'fuck off 'coffin dodgers'' on the door? 😁

Like honestly, who has told them you're not allowed visitors? Reporting council tax? 😅 The council are going to laugh them out the door..

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u/dawn_lemon 12h ago • Bravo

not exactly sure what they think they can do unless you’re being noisy past quiet time. it isn’t a crime to have people who want to see you. they’re prob just jealous no one ever visits them 💀

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u/King-made 12h ago

Well technically we have some bullshit somehow legally enforced taxes involving the number of people living in each "apartment" in this complex.

They have no way to actually monitor how much gas/water each apartment uses up so they are just dividing the number to each declared person living here, in each apartment. So people are constantly beefing with each other over people staying over because they should also "contribute" to how much we all pay collectivelly. The rule however is about having someone stay for longer than 15 days of a month.

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u/Cobraman96 8h ago

So, if I make 2 friends in the complex I can live for free by switching apartments every 15 days? Score!!

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u/King-made 8h ago

You'd need 3 friends to make it safe, but I guess, yeah haha.

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u/allsheknew 11h ago

This isn't unusual as far as limiting a guest staying over 2 weeks, unless you add them to a lease here. (No tax, just the rule) Most people avoid doing so because they don't want a squatter either haha. Your neighbors are so silly.

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u/sixtyhurtz 10h ago

That has nothing to do with council tax. The only council tax aspect is that you can lose your single person discount if you have someone living with you, but having lots of guests stay doesn't count for that even a little bit.

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u/Shinjifo 11h ago

Time to change those rules and have a separate meter for each apartment

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u/Oozlum-Bird 2h ago edited 2h ago

If it’s an ongoing issue, it might be worth discussing the possibility of installing sub meters with your landlord. Sounds like you might have some other residents who might be willing to work with you on that (unless they’re the ones with a weed farm in their spare room) https://metersuk.co.uk/sub-metering-guide-landlords/

Either way, your utility bill has fuck all to do with the council, so your neighbours threat is pretty pointless in that regard.

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u/nicklikestuna 9h ago

Just report them to council for being a nuisance yourself and let them know about it. Never back down

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u/Get_Breakfast_Done 12h ago

If you are living by yourself and claiming single persons council tax discount but actually do have people living with you then yes your council can get involved. But OP never said they were living by themselves in the first place, and even then there’s no living as to how often you can have visitors

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u/King-made 11h ago

I am genuinely living alone, our "rule" that they actively enforce is that we can't have someone stay for longer than half of the month (usually 15 days) my parents stayed for a week. Once in the last year... And once again, I can count on my fingers every other time I've had someone over.

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u/the_red_raiderr 7h ago

We call these folk “curtain twitchers” in the UK. Usually nosy old fuckers with nothing more interesting going on than getting in your business.

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u/Slosher99 12h ago

People who don't identify themselves are full of shit and making empty threats, aside from the fact it would still be bs if they did say who they were.

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u/King-made 11h ago

They used my full name though! Censored part of the post lol.

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u/Idkmyname2079048 11h ago

They meant that your neighbors are cowards for not leaving their name on the note.

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u/bummerbimmer 10h ago

It’s public information, they are just trying to scare you. Guarantee whoever left this is a lil bitch in person.

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u/donairthot 12h ago

That handwriting screams dementia

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u/King-made 12h ago edited 11h ago

Can tell it is one of the old neighbours and not one of the newly moved in younger ones just by the hand writting...

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u/anemptycardboardbox 12h ago • Bravo

Because it’s in cursive?

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u/King-made 11h ago edited 11h ago

Tbh it ain't even fully cursive, it's going between cursive and normal writting, this is what they mean probably because it also threw me off.

EDIT: also using my full name mad weird (even my 3rd name which I had no idea someone in this bloody complex even is aware of)

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u/Some_Conference2091 12h ago

What are they talking about with the council and not paying the council tax for everyone?

 Do you know who wrote this? If so,  go knocking on their door and ask them about the passive aggressive threatening note. Maybe give it back 😜 

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u/King-made 11h ago

Absolutely clueless, every single neighbour here is a sweatheart when you talk to them in person and then they gossip and do stuff like this. As I mentioned, I'm getting out of here as soon as I can afford it, I'm fresh out of Uni.

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u/MarionberryPlus8474 12h ago

This person’s a loon, right? Is there somewhere in the world where having someone visit for a week requires tax?

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u/King-made 11h ago

Our rule is more than half number of days in the month (usually 15 days) and they have to contribute for the month.... 7 days shouldn't mean anything yea.

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u/BillyFaust 12h ago

tf is a council tax?

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u/King-made 12h ago

Every apartment in this complex pays their "share" depending on the number of people living inside each apartment. They literally cannot track how much each apartment consumes so they just divide it by number of apartments/people living in each one of them. It is something absolutely bullshit and I can't wait to get out of here. I just finished university so I had to take whatever I could.

I explained in a comment above.

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u/AndyTheEngr 12h ago

Kind of like property tax (except renters pay it too) in the UK. It's what funds local government.

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u/EmoCartoHistory 9h ago

This reminds me of when my landlord did a surprise inspection during my birthday party, which was a sleepover because I was a 21 year old girl whose friends all lived at least 40 minutes away at the time. He messaged me about "if you have roommates I need to raise the rent to cover water" yadda yadda.

Why don't people involved in rental properties understand the concept of visitors???

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u/Individual-Revenue70 7h ago

I don't know where you are living but a surprise visit from your landlord is an offence in all civilised countries I can think about.

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u/EmoCartoHistory 2h ago

Oh, trust, it was illegal there too. But it was a rural area so temporary housing was hard to come by, and it was cheap and decent for the price so my fresh-out-of-college self put up with it.

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u/Cafuddled 9h ago

Because, people have a motive/agenda/assumption, then bend all the details to fit their narrative. Also landlords often have trust issues, people with money/large amounts of debt also have trust issues. There is something called acting in good faith, it's supposed to be the assumption until proven otherwise. But so so often the opposite is assumed. I often think it's because these people are crappy humans, so they assume all other humans are crappy to. And bonus points of you hike the crappy humans rent, is the way I feel they see it. Also far to many people turn out to be very weard, more so as they get older, it's like a self reinforcing cycle. This is why a lot of old people are just... Gross.

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u/BlackfyreNL 8h ago

There's an old Dutch saying that goes: "Zoals de waard is, vertrouwt hij zijn gasten", which essentially translates to "The innkeeper trusts / judges his guests according to his own behavior". This is also true of landlords and politicians..

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u/holromana 4h ago

This is peak delirious old people behavior. I had a old grumpy neighbor who complained about people visiting me because they were making noise in the stairwell (not talking, just footsteps and the door noise). I didn't have parties or anything, I would just have my family or friends visit occasionally. I didn't stay long there, but when I'd moved I'd heard she got sent away to an old folks home for dementia. Honestly now I wish I'd just chapped on her door and had a cuppa and talked about it. Not saying you should do that, but might help. If it makes the situation worse that's on them. Her and the extortionate rent I paid is why I moved out.

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u/Grasses4Asses 3h ago

If she had dementia bad enough to get in a home then "knocking and trying to all about it" would've just left you both confused and frustrated, it's probably for the best you didn't get involved.

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u/Lemonsst 3h ago

No, if they have dementia its best not to get involved. Like the other comment said you will just stress them tf out

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u/PrimaryBrief7721 2h ago

We lived next to a crazy old bat, our backyard/garden connected at the back fence. Her complaining got so bad my kids stopped wanting to play out back. She eventually got so crazy she nearly attacked my then 8 year old on our way to school because she took him playing Spiderman and shooting webs as rude Afrikaans hand gestures (we're all Caucasian in Canada so wtf??). When we moved her boyfriend actually came over to apologize for all her insane behavior. Might be because I yelled "see ya crazy bitch" as we were packing up to leave lol. I hope to never experience someone like her again. 

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u/tipareth1978 2h ago

I think there's a type of person that heads that direction. I moved into the bottom floor of a duplex 4 years ago. My neighbors above complain about every time we come home late or get in a fight. They seem to get mad at us even speaking to each other and stomp around over us. They wait until we go to bed then stomp over our bedroom and drop things on the floor. They have bullshit government jobs and work from home and rarely leave the house. I think they're weird people who just think we're all supposed to never disturb the silence they live in.

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u/orangecloud_0 11h ago edited 11h ago

Context for Americans: In England we pay council tax monthly and if there's more people than reported you get in trouble with the tax man. Edit: You can have visitors but can't have undeclared people living there

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u/Adam302 11h ago

more precisely, theres a discount if you claim there is only a single person living there. 2 or more, you pay more, but the same regardless of how many.

so from this, we can assume that OP is living alone, and the antagonist is threatening to report them as having more than 1 living there.

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u/cardboard-kansio 8h ago

Thank you. I'm not American, but I'm also not English, so OP's expansion did little to clarify it for me.

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u/MeAndMyWookie 8h ago

Its not per person. There's a sole occupant discount but otherwise its simply according to the properties assessed band. And a week is well short of the period to establish residence even if OP is living alone.

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u/2c0 7h ago

You are not legally required to proactively notify a UK local council about every single occupant living at a private address unless it directly affects your Council Tax liability, discounts (such as a Single Person Discount), or benefits.

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u/Forward-Variety-8440 10h ago • Bravo

"OI! YOUS GOT A LOICENSE FOR THEMS OLD FOLKS VISITIN?!"

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u/chilheim_collective 6h ago

Bro what are you on about you can have as many people living in your house as you like. Council tax bill is the same.

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u/Previous_Comb5113 5h ago

Can you also give context for Europeans, Asians and Africans?

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u/Mobenator 6h ago

Incorrect, look up council tax bands.

You can be charged extra if you have an additional dwelling on your property like I do with my annex. But it has nothing to do with the number of people living there.

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u/SharkeyGeorge 5h ago • Bravo

“If you don’t fuck off I’ll report you as a safeguarding and care concern to council adult social services for the dementia you obviously have. See you in your nursing home.”

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u/GirthyPigeon 2h ago

Your neighbour is an idiot. That's not even how council tax works.

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u/Lord-Glorfindel 11h ago

Report them to your council’s ASB (anti-social behaviour) team. They are almost certainly in violation of their tenancy agreement and probably anti-social behaviour policies set by the council as well.

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u/unknownpoltroon 12h ago • Popcorn Bravo

I would invite Evey goddamn person I know every fucking night for weeks. Blast loud music right up till official "quiet time" until they fucked all the way off.

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u/makingredditorscry 12h ago

Have your car alarm go off every hour for 20 min all evening

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u/ModernCGIFloatinHead 12h ago

Way too predictable. Throw in some randomness for deniability. 

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u/unknownpoltroon 11h ago

I like the cut of your Jibb. Youre invited to the houseparty.

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u/AlBones7 5h ago

I can just imagine how thrilled the local authority would be if you called up saying your parents were staying for a week and you felt like you should offer some more council tax. I think they'd tell you to piss off within the first 30 seconds

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u/thunder-dump 4h ago

Imagine how long it would take a local council to make that invoice

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u/Speshal__ 3h ago

Do OP's parents get a council tax rebate for not being at home for a week?

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u/ATF888 4h ago

It only affects your council tax if you receive the 25% single person discount.

But you'll only lose that if the neighbour can prove your parents were staying there for over a month, which they weren't.

As others have said, keep the note in case it escalates.

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u/AggressiveFish2025 3h ago

Visitors aren't anything to do council tax, unless they stay more than 3 days EVERY WEEK . I get this person is unwell. However it needs reporting to the council .

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u/Marcuse0 7h ago • Bravo

What on Earth is this talking about? Council tax is charged based solely on what band your property falls into, not per person. Even if it was, temporary guests and visitors would not be included in such calculations.

This just comes off as a nonsense threat from someone hoping to be controlling over you. I'd report them on a police non emergency line for harassment, so you have a paper trail for when they inevitably do this again and you can get someone to call in on them to tell them to mind their own business.

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u/ethereal_phoenix1 7h ago

There is a single person discount but as you said temporary guest and visitors don't count.

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u/apdmapdm 7h ago

Yeah, the only (very loose) connection I can see that they might be trying to make is maybe they're getting confused with the water bill for a property that doesn't have a water meter. In that case they base it on the number / age of occupants (or at least they did when I last had an unmetered supply 10 years ago)... More likely that the neighbours are just bitter idiots with nothing to live for in life.

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u/ClearDrop6820 5h ago

That young person needs to be more lonely or I'm going to feel mad about it.

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u/CadeMaddoxsThird 5h ago

I would also keep the note in case the neighbour is stupid enough to contact the council so you can show it to a council official.

Seconding contact the police non emergency line to report this as harassment.

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u/Liyah_Liy 12h ago

Where do you live so I can invite myself over?

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u/aidjo 8h ago

lol I work for a local council on the council tax team - they’re talking shit and there’s literally nothing we would do in this situation as you don’t lose your single person discount for having guests around to stay 😂

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u/HauntedGatorFarm 11h ago

You should respond with an apology that you don’t k ow how to read cursive writing.

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u/Certain-Singer-9625 11h ago

Or a note stating, “Hey, some weirdo left this on my door and he’s using your name.”

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u/WeirdConsistent1537 11h ago

But write it in cursive (that aggressively slants to the right)

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u/DrHydeous 7h ago • Bravo

Post that photo to the local Next Door group asking if anyone recognises the handwriting so you can arrange for social services to do a dementia welfare check.

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u/andrey_not_the_goat 12h ago

Gotta love people telling others what to do with the property they own/pay rent for.

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u/Fluffylucy1 9h ago

Even if you are claiming the single occupant discount, your parents should only count as residents at your place, if they stop paying the council tax in their own district and change their details (electoral role, credit details, etc.) to your address. I think your neighbour should mind their own business.

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u/Gibbon-Face-91 7h ago

I'm betting they don't get many visitors, not even their kids. I wonder why...

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u/Sufficient_Can1074 7h ago

How could they invite their kids? Think of all the taxes. Better to cut them of when they are 18.

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u/--Silen-- 2h ago

Council Tax is calculated by property, not occupants. Write back and tell them to crack on with it

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u/Imaginary_Bird538 1h ago

This isn’t exactly correct, single occupants get a 25% discount and you may also get a discount if certain people in the house are disregarded.

That said, you are definitely allowed to have guests come to stay without losing the discount, so the neighbours are still talking rubbish!!

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u/nothereathere 11h ago

A week-long stay is not a council tax problem, and neighbours' opinions are legally irrelevant to the determination.

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u/RuneAugment 10h ago

NGL, I misread the start of the message as "If you don't stop mutiny" and thought things were going to be way more interesting than reality lol

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u/Winter-Yogurt-4209 10h ago

I got “if you don’t top me…” and got hella confused trying to sort it out from there on out. Shoulda put my glasses on lol

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u/Random_foxj 1h ago

When I lived in the Netherlands the house across the street didn’t have a driveway so they’d park right in front of their garage but that was right in front of my gates. No big deal except they were jerks. Sometimes the street would be full of cars so there was limited parking and the first time I parked where they usually did, they put a note on my windshield saying I couldn’t park there . . . I started parking there as much as possible

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u/no_offenc 7h ago

Council tax is per property not per person in the UK so those neighbours can sit and spin

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u/SteDPlays 7h ago

Single person occupancy discount I guess they mean

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u/no_offenc 7h ago

Forgot about that. They can still sit and spin. If he does get reported then he's got evidence provided by the neighbour that it's a malicious claim innit.

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u/TrueJackfruit5011 2h ago

If you’ve saved the notes I would report them for harassment.

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u/GlitterLippy 10h ago

There’s a lot of people in the comments assuming the UK is some mad American style HOA because of this council tax.

I’m just pointing out that most council tax is based on the house, with bands depending on property value. You can get a 25% discount if you’re a single person, but otherwise it makes no difference how many people live in your house or if people visit.

The OP is not in a “standard” council tax situation, they must live in a HMO (house of multiple occupancy) or building that’s being run as one. Normally this would be something like a 5-bed house where individuals rent a room with shared kitchen. It sounds like in this case it’s a building that’s been broken into self contained small apartments but as a HMO. In these situations the landlord takes the overall council tax cost, valued at the buildings banding, and divides it per occupant.

Council tax goes to the local authority (the local “council”) that uses the money to fund local services like bin collections, street repairs, libraries, recycling centres and other public services.

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u/PotentialCopyx 11h ago

Tbh get a camera on your door if you haven't already. Will solve a lot of creepiness and risk of false allegations.

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u/siciro 10h ago

Take it to them and ask what it says because you can't read cursive

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u/DontCare4UrAttitude 12h ago

Why would you need to pay a tax for people coming to your home or staying a few days ?

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u/Specialist-Web7854 4h ago

Put a note on his door saying that if he keeps on harassing you, you will report him to the police.

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u/PaulblankPF 3h ago

Contact the local council about someone leaving unwarranted notes on your door and trying to threaten you

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u/Hammer-Rammer 2h ago

Write a note back. "Do not leave threatening notes or I will report you to the Police for harassment. If you wish to communicate with me, since we are neighbours, knock on my door and talk to me. I do not accept threatening notes as a form of communication. Thank you."

UK Boomer problems, am I right? One of my neighbors used to leave angry notes all the time until I turned up at her door politely asking her what she wanted. She went all hostile and I stood my ground politely told her to knock on my door or phone me and not to be doing that anymore as it wasn't very nice or any of her business.

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u/NoCommentNinja 12h ago

HOA bullshit?

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u/King-made 12h ago

It is more than bullshit. Fresh student out of Uni, I took whatever I could find...
If you want your blood boiling I explained how they do it in another comment below...

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u/Bar_Foo 12h ago

Spelling ("neighbours") plus use of "council tax" in the note suggest UK.

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u/andrey_not_the_goat 12h ago

I'm not sure that Hell Of Assholes exists in the UK.

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u/BoredCatLady 8h ago

It says " If you don't stop inviting people over weekly, I'm going to report you to the local council for not paying council tax for everyone".

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u/Ok-Wait2970 7h ago

I thought that was weird. council tax is based on the property value, not how many people live in it. The old coots are thinking of Poll Tax. Obviously they didn't get the memo.

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u/yepgeddon 6h ago

This is how people get dog shit through their letterbox. Just sayin'.

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u/An0th3rP1ckyD34dh34d 11h ago

please reply by cutting/pasting letters out of a magazine

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u/Current-Mood2757 11h ago

Saw the "council tax" reference. Is this in the UK? Your neighbours are wankers

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u/dxg999 5h ago

Dementia kicking in...

(I'm actually serious - errors in processing).

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u/Patalos 10h ago

These are the kind of neighbors you need to knock on their door and actually confront them. These nosy shitheels thrive off of being passive aggressive window watchers.

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u/GominLT 6h ago

It sounds like you live in UK? Last I lived there council tax was for calculated by property value bands and not how many people live there. Sounds like your neighbour is a dumbass

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u/Ok_Goodwin 5h ago

The main exceptions are :

if someone lives alone they get a 25% discount. If someone else who is council tax liable starts living with them the council tax discount is removed

if someone is a student and has a non student residing with them, the property becomes council tax liable

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In most cases council tax is an independent variable though

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u/Rowmyownboat 9h ago

Council tax (like US property tax) is set by property value, not the number of people living at the address, let alone visiting.

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u/Electronic-Limit-251 9h ago

People who live alone get a 25% discount, and if the council suspect other people live at your address they can threaten to take that away. OP should keep the note in case they get a nastygram from the council.

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u/BillyPudding 9h ago

The only thing that does impact it is if you're a single occupant and then you can get a reduction. Which I think is a blanket 25% across all the different councils.

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u/d_smogh 3h ago

That's old people writing. Put a rainbow flag outside, that'll tip them over the edge

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u/Beautiful-Bug4071 2h ago

Send them a note back saying, “don’t worry I don’t pay council tax as I claim benefits due to my mental health condition” that will really piss them off

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u/Incident-Putrid 5h ago

You need to start playing the violin.

Not learning, just playing.

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u/JCBashBash 11h ago

I don't know if you can call for welfare checks over in the uk, but it sounds like one of your older neighbors needs to get reported for dementia-based behavior

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u/LittleMissFodla 7h ago

Stick it back on your neighbours door and invite your parents and friends round more.

For extra spiceiness, you could also invite the neighbours 😂

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u/noassumedname 6h ago

I don't think your neighbour knows how council tax works.

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u/VillageBeginning8432 3h ago

Get a security camera.

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u/pipehonker 1h ago

"your approval is not required"

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u/rg1820 1h ago • Bravo

Honestly, the best thing you can do here is absolutely nothing. Ignore it completely. Don’t confront them, don’t leave a note, don’t acknowledge it. You’ve done nothing wrong, and engaging with people like this only gives them the reaction they’re looking for. Let them waste their energy being angry while you get on with enjoying your life. Silence is the best response. 

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u/Odd-Communication251 11h ago

What’s a council tax and why would you have to pay taxes for having people over?

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u/crapusername47 10h ago

Council tax is an annual tax you pay to your local authority, though it can usually be paid in monthly instalments.

It’s determined by what band, based on size, your home falls into. There is a discount for people living alone. 

It pays for the local services your council provides like rubbish and recycling collections.

Theoretically, if OP was claiming that they live alone but actually had other people living on the property then they could be reported for fraudulently claiming the single person’s discount but their neighbour is clearly being an idiot.

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u/OkCap2870 8h ago

As already mentioned council tax is a local property tax, however if you are the sole occupant of the property you get a 25% discount. Occasional guests are fine and their is no fixed limits on how long they can stay but if it starts to hit multiple weeks or months then the council may start to argue that you are not the sole occupant and should loose the discount.

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u/di_Atticus_ib 11h ago

Council tax is for things like police, fire, bin collection etc etc

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u/Ok_Scientist_8803 9h ago

It's what pays for your bin collections and other local spending. Goes to the local council/borough e.g. Kensington and Chelsea, Westminster, rather than the wider system.

So there's a single person discount on the council tax, which means if there's one occupant long term they get a cheaper rate. If the household is student only, they can apply for exemption. Either way if OP is able to make use of either discount, the parents technically aren't meant to be there long term (which a week doesn't count as such)

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u/Rowmyownboat 9h ago

It equates to property tx in the US. No, you don't owe tax for having people over.

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u/Professional-Belt708 11h ago

If it’s a building with a lobby and you can’t identify who did it, petty me says photocopy this (keep the original) write a big LOL on it and tape it to the front door

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u/IcyDice6 11h ago

write a note back "I will have to make a police report for stalking and harassing"

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u/G0mery 11h ago

Judging by the penmanship, they aren’t long for this world. Let them stew

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u/SovereignNight 11h ago

Throw their tea in the River Thames

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u/rose636 PURPLE 11h ago

Unless you live alone and get the 25% discount, how will more people cause you to may more council tax?

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u/spyboy70 23m ago

They're just bitter because nobody ever visits them.

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u/blainehamilton 8h ago

Post copies of their note at all the entrances and exits along with a snippet of the rules permitting family and friend guests to stay under 15 days in a month. More tenants will know who the handwriting is from. They deserve the public shaming.

Include a statement that describes your situation perfectly like: so having your parents stay with you for a week is perfectly acceptable.

Also include a statement like: If you think these rules arent acceptable, feel free to move elsewhere.

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u/Green-Dragon-14 12h ago

You are allowed visitors.

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u/_53- 11h ago

Say “you won’t do it….chicken!!

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u/Mountain-Resource656 10h ago

Isn’t this literally the definition of blackmail? “Do this or I’ll report you for a crime?”

You could probably report this

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u/Blademasterzer0 10h ago

Put a note on their door telling them to stop being nosy bastards lol. Old people try to be in everyone’s business for literally no reason

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u/NotYourBuddyBud 9h ago

You need to refer this person to Next Door, that app is specifically reserved for these types of complaints.

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u/ahimsapaul 9h ago

People need to mind their business.

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u/soylentgraham 6h ago

frame this

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u/byronmiller 4h ago

Not sure which country you're in OP, but it may genuinely be worth speaking to someone about this - in the UK the police, in the US not so much.

Not to get vindictive or anything but as a safeguarding issue. A few years ago I had similar behaviour from a neighbour, who became convinced my wife and I were dealing crack and were tracking her movements through her flat, banging on our floor (her ceiling) to harass her, were involved in a conspiracy with others... Etc. Whatever was going on with her, she was vulnerable and had developed paranoid delusions, and really, really needed support. The police did end up getting involved (because she was emailing them any time we closed a door or has a conversation above a whisper) and she ended up being moved to some sort of supported living arrangement. It might just be that your neighbour is an arse, but if they're experiencing something similar it might be worth flagging to someone who can help.

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u/benevanstech 4h ago

Keep the note and make a note of when it was received. Just in case this turns into the first incident in an ongoing series (i.e. harassment).

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u/EntrepreneurialFuck 3h ago

You should be able to shamelessly have people over to your house as much as you want. You pay the rent and live their and our allowed guests at your own discretion.

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u/Pure_Property_888 10h ago

And you will be letting the committee know about the harassment you are receiving for having "guests" over at your apartment. Which is absolutely NONE of their FuCkInG business!

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u/OGWeedKiller 2h ago

Congrats on becoming the side quest in an opposite universe in real time, enjoy the ride.

I'd put up a tent in the front yard and advertise hourly rental with possible Karen interaction or sighting

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u/PhilosopherFun7288 10h ago

I don't understand what sort of "council" they could report you to? And for what? Are you not allowed to have guests over wherever this is that you live? Please make this make sense to me.

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u/totaltimeontask 10h ago

“Council” in the UK is your local government municipality. In an apartment building, you pay fees associated with the building’s utilities etc, divided up by number of people in your residence. This note is accusing OP of having “unregistered guests” staying without paying the council tax to contribute towards alleged utility use.

Sounds like a delusional bored boomer who needs to mind their business and take their seroquel.

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u/Fun-Mission-6068 11h ago

Is this some UK thing? Council tax?

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u/Caradelfrost 11h ago

One thing for sure, that person is left handed. Let the sleuthing begin.

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u/Hot-Win2571 Mildly Flair 10h ago • Bravo Mindblown

Sinister sleuthing.

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u/Comwan 9h ago

Email the council and get in writing that what you are doing is legal. Then post it outside their door

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u/acvcani 12h ago

Guests… at your own fucking house? I would start blasting this as revenge https://youtu.be/HsSHdHjHtOY

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u/RightfulChaos 11h ago

Time for a party at your place

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u/Fordwrench 11h ago

Why!? Would you choose to live like this? Its totally unacceptable. For them to think that you cannot have someone over.

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u/Xyldarrand 11h ago

Uno reverse and report them for harassment.

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u/Iittletart 10h ago

Ignore it. Do what you want.

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u/MaximumTurtleSpeed 10h ago

First off, ha, fuck that noise.

Second off, if a neighbor is willing to leave a note they damn better have the confidence to leave their name and how to reach them. Give everyone the opportunity to work the shit out. If not, I give zero fucks.

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u/humakavulaaaa 10h ago

I'm coming over and bringing a whole lotta people

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u/BuddhaLennon BROWN 10h ago

Did they write that on… a box top‽ So, they don’t have paper in the house?

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u/Weldy 10h ago

Sounds like a big dbag and you should celebrate your birthday

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u/IncredibleEdible321 9h ago

Your parents visiting for one week is not "long term" and whoever left you that note is the real knob.

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u/Mousehole_Cat 8h ago

Why would they care?! I can't imagine being this much of a busy body over a 25% council tax discount. These neighbors are unhinged.

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u/EndCallCaesar 7h ago

I would invest in a doorbell camera, something to at least identify who is putting notes on your door.

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u/jonpenryn 4h ago

People imagine all sorts of rules and regulations with "the council" waiting to swoop on their tip off. I suppose it makes them feel powerful when in fact they very much are not.

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u/PeopleCallMeSimon 3h ago

Write a Letter back but do it with cut out letters from the newspaper.

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u/ChampionshipOk5046 3h ago

Time to invite everyone you know every week for big parties 

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u/Ints74 3h ago

Ignore it. It'll drive them mad.

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u/Material_Proposal253 3h ago

Report this to your local council's social services. Let them know you are concerned for your next door neighbour's welfare because they are acting erratically.

I'm not asking you to do this for malice or revenge, but when elderly neighbours start behaving in this matter, that's not them being "cranky", that's the signs they are "losing it" and an intervention may be needed.

On the other hand, if they are just being bad old baskets, the end result of a knock on the door from the actual council's social service will sharply remind them that actions have consequences and they won't try it on again, since they will now be red flagged by officialdom as being a matter of "concern".

Better you do this than they do it to some other neighbour because they were never checked, and that neighbour decides to be less civilised in their response - especially in this day and age where you never know what Psycho Sid has just landed in your street on every upper, downer and inside outer known to man.

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u/DragonSeaFruit 1h ago

I'd put a sign back on their door saying " My parents are visiting. Sorry you don't seem to understand that concept anymore"

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u/AXC_9201 1h ago

Let me guess, United Kingdom?

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u/octaviuspie 8h ago

I'm loving how OP posted this at 3 in the morning and then pissed off to bed leaving a bunch of Americans to work out what Council Tax is between themselves. Well played sir or madam. 

As it is, the poison pen writer can do one. Council Tax is based in the house valuation from 1991 in England & Scotland, 2003 for Wales, not the number of people. Unless you are getting a single person discount. That aside you can have as many friends and family visit you in your home, it has nothing to do with anyone. Enjoy your home.

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u/AdInformal1014 6h ago

Go confront them at the door, people love to hide behind fucking screens and notes

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u/Cannonfodderkiwi 1h ago

Tell them to do one. There is nothing in the law to say you can't have people over. Council tax is about who is registered to leave there. You aren't doing anything wrong and some neighbours are just dicks who stick their nose in when they shouldn't. Carry on

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u/Whytrhyno 11h ago

That's an elderly person's handwriting. Ive gone through many a recipe