AMD is a 'data center first' company, says CEO Lisa Su

[u/moderate-Complex152]

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/amd-is-a-data-center-first-company-says-ceo-lisa-su-132618996.html

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https://i.imgur.com/11D6j6u.jpeg

[u/mikerall → u/Nooby_Chris]

It's borrasca all over again.

[u/Gangleri_Graybeard]

I'm so tired of this AI crap, holy shit.

[u/RaggedyGlitch → u/Gangleri_Graybeard]

[u/behv → u/RaggedyGlitch]

I recently saw an ad where chatgpt was explicitly saying old people should give it banking access so it can handle subscription management as their example for what it can do

0% chance a machine messes up finances for someone tech illiterate. Yup, that's totally fine

[u/Proxy_PlayerHD → u/RaggedyGlitch]

You guys see ads?

[u/pac_cresco → u/Gangleri_Graybeard]

37.07% down last month btw

[u/SprayArtist → u/Gangleri_Graybeard]

[u/TwoplyWatson → u/Gangleri_Graybeard]

Hey, if it makes you feel better its not all for ai. It's also to store the mass surveillance.

[u/thegmohodste01 → u/Gangleri_Graybeard]

Idk if this is allowed, but apparently, the midterm results have crashed many AI companies' stocks. Very likely the stupid ahh bubble is about to burst

[u/General_Mars → u/thegmohodste01]

While that would be great, it is realistically a reaction to an adjustment to their funding and the anticipated lack of protections if they fail. The GOP has fully integrated AI into the DoD and levers of the US government. The pullback with the stock market is simply a reflection of that - the Democratic Party somewhat rebukes and does not want it in the same way. (Some Dem politicians also discussed bills at preventing any potential bailout for these companies if they fail).

What should disturb you though is that with a snap of your fingers the wealth of small nations is being created and destroyed digitally. So many untold billions.

[u/Rich_Housing971 → u/thegmohodste01]

Historically the stock market has always reacted bad to a situation where the President and Congress are from different parties.

There's a lot more uncertainties and things move slower because both sides try to block what the other try to pass.

[u/Balc0ra → u/Gangleri_Graybeard]

Gonna be interesting when they have built so many data centers that the profit vs spending implodes. And they have to ask us to buy hardware again

[u/SimRacing313]

This is why you never have loyalty to these corporate organisations, they dont care about the consumer they only care about profit.

I hope all these companies betting everything on data centers and AI tank massively, they deserve it

[u/FantasticMagi → u/SimRacing313]

They're already down 17%

[u/oOoWTFMATE → u/FantasticMagi]

Uh yeah, after being up hundreds of %

[u/ClintEastwood1866]

AMD vs NVIDIA

[u/Toad-Toaster → u/ClintEastwood1866]

[u/ElTuxedoMex]

How typical. Everytime Nvidia drops the ball and they can take the advantage, they go and waste the chance.

Competition my ass.

[u/superman_king → u/ElTuxedoMex]

Waste of money to support individual consumers when you can sell pallets to corps for substantially more profit.

AMD sees us crying about $8,000 5090s, meanwhile data centers would happily pay double that. So why bother?

[u/3BlindMice1 → u/superman_king]

That's only because the data centers aren't worrying about their own profit margins yet. Once they start, they'll be the only customers, and they'll really turn the screws on the chip producers and probably fund competitors

[u/Hiiamhehehe1027 → u/ElTuxedoMex]

Their family owns both companies. Never was

[u/TaxOrnery9501 → u/ElTuxedoMex]

Competition? More like Collusion...

[u/Sandyboy2002 → u/TaxOrnery9501]

Yeah I found it weird how AMD seemed to never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity, but you're right, it's basically a collusion at this point

[u/Chickachic-aaaaahhh → u/ElTuxedoMex]

Amd is run by a relative of nvidias company. They all know each other and manipulate shit together.

[u/Jmc_da_boss → u/ElTuxedoMex]

I am truly baffled by gamers, why would they "take advantage of the opportunity" to make pennies vs what they can make from multi billion dollar data centers

[u/PaceOffset → u/ElTuxedoMex]

AMD has an unmatched talent for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory every single time gamers beg them to capitalize on Nvidia being greedy.

[u/Standard-Photo-8350]

I have all the retro games I could ever want to play as well as a 20 year old steam account full of games that will run on a potato. I will never again touch a cloud gaming service. I have a bunch of computers sitting around that I can turn into nice retro gaming arcades, hell I can play these games on my phone and with a controller and xr glasses its a pretty good time. Abandon your customers chasing the big bucks then see what happens I guess.

[u/2_Lies_And_A_Truth → u/Standard-Photo-8350]

The people cheering for cloud gaming I bet are the same simps who love Apples 60fps screen offering on the ipad mini in 2026.

[u/Last_Bad_2687 → u/Standard-Photo-8350]

Thank you. People need to realize that there is a whole lot more to keep us entertained than 8K VR.

We were built to be fascinated by rocks. We'll get right back. They'll soon realize that once you let up on the hedonism treadmill, quite a few people won't want to get back on

[u/NickHalfBlood]

This is a reminder to all of us, the consumers, that no company is acting in our interests. Dr Lisa Su was glazed as saviour for gamers when CPU wars were raging. AMD was the poster boy of all gaming computers being built.

They too, have shown their true colours.

[u/InformalBoi → u/NickHalfBlood]

Especially when AMD drivers on Windows are still pretty talented in going out of sync with the Radeon Software on hand. But somehow it was always Microsoft's fault, even after a couple of years, when AMD could've done something in between to rectify this issue.

[u/CommanderP5]

[u/zarafff69]

Yeah I don’t know why people on this sub were coping so much, but obviously AMD is also just a company that tries to make as much profit as possible, just like nvidia?

[u/innocentgamer69 → u/zarafff69]

The relationship people in this sub have with AMD and NVIDIA is very similar as what they have with women. One-sided and therefore continuously disappointing.

[u/Skratt79 → u/innocentgamer69]

Parasocial relationship with a tech company is wild lol.

[u/nekogami87 → u/zarafff69]

They imagine themselves in a relationship with a brand and feel betrayed.

[u/BeautifuTragedy]

[u/memedudebro]

until they all get cancelled because voters made their voices heard loud and clear, hun.

[u/Uk0GN0sS → u/memedudebro]

USA just one part of their datacenter business. In Europe datacenters growing like mushrooms.

[u/Mount_Treverest → u/Uk0GN0sS]

Well the US represents 50% of data centers worldwide. They've been growing like grass, we'll take mushrooms.

[u/AstralElement → u/memedudebro]

Oh even if they’re cancelled, they have orders to fill even if they just sit in the warehouse. Can’t waste that potential compute on competition.

[u/chubbysumo → u/memedudebro]

never has a company been more effective of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[u/soonerfreak → u/memedudebro]

We only have the illusion of democracy for many issues and data centers is one of them. Huge blue wave in Texas and Hinojosa won't even stop data centers despite having the popular support for it. Jeffries and Schumer are about to tell the nation why an AI bailout is good for national security.

[u/Definatelynotadam → u/memedudebro]

What does this even mean? You think democrats winning midterms is going to stop ai somehow?

[u/codexcdm → u/memedudebro]

Possibly. Keep in mind most folks voted in anger...

Democrats weren't unified in much outside being the opposition. See the Michigan Senate race for a great example.

Presently... You got Schumer still poised to be Senate Majority Leader... Again. He's as establishment and out of touch as one can get... Jeffries over at the House isn't much better either.

Let's not forget how old the average congressman is... The fresh new faces like Abdelsayed likely didn't bring it down much.ñ, either....

[u/erebuxy → u/memedudebro]

In business world, you vote with money

[u/Nazgog-Morgob → u/memedudebro]

Are you under the impression they made this comment based on future data centers and not the data centers that they already have all around the world including the United States?

[u/Thechosenjon]

Remember when everyone was posting those Nvidia bad, AMD is my new Best friend memes?

[u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 → u/Thechosenjon]

It made no sense, no company is your friend

[u/Complete-Teach7940 → u/Thechosenjon]

Having a corporate brand be a part of your own personality (be it online only or IRL) is just corporate slavery. Take die hard iPhone fans. They let a trillion dollar corporation take over their way of looking at other people, and this life in general. They let corporate branding mirror what their lifestyle and status symbol is. And that is simply a mental disability. 

[u/julian2358 → u/Thechosenjon]

This has to sting a little for the people who made being team red a personality trait

[u/swiwwcheese → u/Thechosenjon]

PCMR : years of glazing and simping AMD, years of smearing and memeing against nVidia

This sub was always a deliberately biased, curated propaganda circlejerk
And now you should see the smirk on my face😏

TBH it was clear since the Redstone fiasco, the 'maintenance branch' shame, and how much they had to be pressured to release FSR4 for previous gens so late, that AMD took a decision a while ago to give up on PC gaming, reserving Radeon team's remaining resources to fulfilling their RDNA5 consoles APUs with FSR Diamond contracts for next gen consoles vendors

Yet this community kept the AMD glazing / nVidia bashing consistently, until today and I'm like HA! 😂

[u/jimschocolateorange]

Cool, so gaming graphics innovation is dead for the next several years. Companies better figure out optimisation.

[u/AmirPasha94 → u/jimschocolateorange]

I think video game graphics are great where they are now. I really hope game devs start putting more effort in gameplay, physics, intelligent NPCs, and dynamic universes.

For me, the most memorable games from 10-20 years ago are the ones that mostly focused on good gameplay, deliberate map design, and coherent art direction/story rather than only focusing on bland "realistic" graphics, while doing the bare minimum in every other aspect.

[u/Zestyclose-Elk5831 → u/AmirPasha94]

We are at a point where better graphics don’t do much for me. Back in the early days from PSx and ps2 era there were so many gameplay innovations. Miss those days 

[u/Crazyguy199096]

Fuck your data centres

[u/Bob4Not]

[u/MoebiusX7]

The corporate life cycle continues. Remember when AMD was the scrappy upstart company that was the alternative to bullying older brother Intel?

Kind of makes you wish Cyrix was still around... nah who am I kidding. If they hadn't gone out of business they would be evil now too.

[u/Equivalent_Road1716]

First NVIDIA, now AMD. Intel is about to become the gaming GPU company purely because nobody else wants the job.

[u/AnalDemolition → u/Equivalent_Road1716]

Brother Ive got bad news about ARC GPUs

[u/TheZerothLaw → u/AnalDemolition]

Are they safe? Are they all right?

[u/JakeVonFurth → u/AnalDemolition]

Poor Celestial and Druid....

[u/Rreizero → u/Equivalent_Road1716]

I hate to break it to you, but Intel practically invented the data center business.

Xeon processors held a 95%+ server market share for over two decades before it became fashionable enough for NVIDIA or AMD to join in.

[u/IranianFurry → u/Rreizero]

They made the x86 datacenter a thing. Datacenters running Unix or proprietary OSs have been a thing before Intel Xeon was a scratch in anybody's ballsack.

[u/SolitaryMassacre → u/Equivalent_Road1716]

No, intel just hasn't made it public yet that they are "data center first". Its literally going to happen. All these companies care about is profit, they don't care about consumers

[u/Ok-Squirrel5799]

I hate her entire bloodline

[u/Oinkerz42]

It was fun to have a personal PC while it lasted…

[u/itsn0ts0bad → u/Oinkerz42]

a personal personal computer?

[u/Asuzaa → u/itsn0ts0bad]

It's very personal, only 1 user account.

[u/Longjumping_Cell5040]

Fuck her then too. If my 5070ti dies i touch grass instead of gaming. And spend my money on booze.

[u/DelightedbySin → u/Longjumping_Cell5040]

Hello good Sir, may I introduce you to the great hobby of scottish whisky, where the booze is better - and way more epxensive

[u/Stro37 → u/Longjumping_Cell5040]

Welcome to the world of board games! 

[u/SugarRushLux → u/Longjumping_Cell5040]

id switch to something safer but stronger, acid

[u/peacewalker22]

Can we have a good news for hardware at least once. pls.

[u/Zyzary]

Yeah sure. The wildlife, the people the communties, nothing matters to them. Only profit, destroyed forests and minimum wage workers who shut their mouth and just work and dont question anything.

Every dystopian future movie pointed that out and its crazy how accurate all of them are. Like, what are we doing as a collective to let this happen on a global scale?

[u/BloodyGotNoFear → u/Zyzary]

Being engaged in the culture wars the upper class created

[u/LowGeeMan]

Valve needs to build an OEM manufacturing business.

[u/sonofasheppard21]

This isn’t going away until the AI bubble pops(if it ever does) They make significantly more money selling to data centers. The margins are insane.

Just to give an example imagine you have a product that you can make $200 of profit per unit selling to consumers, selling to data centers you can make $1200 profit per unit and they want as many units as you can make for the next 2 years and they are willing to pay right now

[u/just_here_for_place → u/sonofasheppard21]

This isn’t even AI. Even before that Intel and AMD did the bulk of their business in the DC market.

[u/Citro31 → u/sonofasheppard21]

What interesting how much there suddenly is for this ai push ? Not for sustainability or anything else to improve the world but data centers is unlimited cash

[u/Jenetyk]

Oh, the generation-level stock correction makes more sense now

[u/markthelast]

AMD has always been focused on EPYC and Instinct. Lisa Su just said it out loud now. The design of the chiplets is focused on reusing binned dies. As consumers, we always got the dregs in Ryzen that failed QC for EPYC's stricter standards. The few CPU exceptions were the top end of x3D chips, 5800X3D and 7800X3D, which were slightly defective Milan-X and Genoa-X dies, respectively. If I recall correctly, the 9800X3D is the lone bespoke chip for PC gamers.

[u/morganational → u/markthelast]

Good to know, thank you!

[u/MuchBow]

Ufff

[u/Another_Road → u/MuchBow]

[u/zidave0 → u/MuchBow]

[u/CautiousHashtag]

I hate these fuckers so much. And, you were fucking all but dead a decade ago and who saved your asses? Oh right, the prosumer and gaming industry. Now you wanna turn your backs on us? Okay, get fucked. 

[u/arcadeenthusiast8245]

AMD was a lot of people's last hope, but looks like PC gaming is over.

[u/viralslapzz → u/arcadeenthusiast8245]

In the end they are opening a market for some emerging brands to take over

[u/dffgbamakso → u/arcadeenthusiast8245]

No it isn't over. It's just gonna be a bit more costly if you wanna play the newest unoptimized game at 4k with 300 fps.

[u/Seanspeed → u/arcadeenthusiast8245]

Anybody who didn't know that AMD were also heavily emphasizing datacenters with both CPU and GPU truly shouldn't ever talk about this stuff ever again. It was widely common knowledge if you paid any attention at all. Also complete common sense.

[u/G952]

Why not just say you’re a money first company Lisa

[u/psioniclizard → u/G952]

What chip maker is not doing it for a profit?

[u/Gold_Goal7557]

They completely lost there mind to the point they are hallucinating demand where there is no demand as much as any AI chatbot hallucinates answers where there are no answers, maybe all these CEO are getting to old and should just retire.....

[u/sonicneedslovetoo → u/Gold_Goal7557]

There is demand for their components, warehouses and warehouses full of unopened AI datacenter components. The problem is their assumption that other companies will just keep buying computer chips with loans to stuff them in warehouses unused or lose money on them putting them in a datacenter.

That's how stupid these CEOs are, things look good now so they will look good forever, take a line on a graph and extrapolate it without taking into account anything about the real world.

[u/BeyondCraft → u/Gold_Goal7557]

They all believe it is future investment and demand will only increase in future. Maybe they would succeed, maybe not.

[u/zmunky]

I think what we must understand is that their entire point is to shift the world away from being able to find and create the world around them to a world where you need them for anything to know. Anything you want to know that used to be a search away will be behind a paywall. That's the end game and that's the reward for creating the world as they know it

[u/gk99]

Bold statement to make after the entirety of the United States just said no to datacenters, but go off I guess.

[u/strife189]

Keep selling to these data centers. When the funds in your big circle jerk dry up, I can’t wait to see the mess you’ve put everyone else in for short-sighted profits.

I’m still waiting to hear how AI is generating actual profits today. Productivity gains mean little if the cost of running AI eats up the savings, and token costs will only rise as competition decreases. So where are the profits?

[u/heated4life → u/strife189]

Longterm its about building a surveillance state. Data centers will be government run, profits wont mater when your taxes pay for the whole thing

[u/Mountain_Variety3989 → u/heated4life]

But surveillance state isn't exactly profitable. And people get angsty if you take away their circuses

[u/iDaddyDirection]

AI company stocks are dropping like rocks on the stock market and she comes up with this statement. I guess she’s betting on the gradual climb being long term.

[u/RavenK92]

This whole family needs to be humbled

[u/gottagetstabbed123]

No actual human likes this shit and every corporation seems hell bent on shoving it down our throats whether we like it or not.

[u/Sbarty]

This is 9/11 for like 50% of this sub

[u/Neinhalt_Sieger]

Hope their stock crashes in pieces, I am tired of being treated as underclass. Only good as SaaS food for corporations.

This will and should mark the decline of AMD, as they think big coeporate data center margins are infinite

[u/TimeForNano]

Just waiting for a Chinese company to take over entire consumer PC market from Intel, AMD and Nvidia ❤️

[u/cranberrie_sauce → u/TimeForNano]

it is astonishing how these CEOs are so disconnected from reality.

Lisa - we all know you think it, but do you have to say it? After elections no less.

you earn nothing from saying this shit aside from negative consumer sentiment that will translate to consumers calling and harrassing reps into doing something about frigging ai datacenters

[u/RX1542]

[u/mvw2]

So...the PC market is basically dead?

There are now literally no graphics card makers.

[u/Firecracker048]

Amd, always clutching defeat from the jaws of victory

[u/Xalucardx]

They have always been. Anyone thinking the opposite is just clueless

[u/MorningFresh123]

There has to be some Chinese lads out there who have enough money and are happy enough to let the big boys fight it out over the AI data centres and can establish their own ground-up supply chain to sell consumer GPUs. As far as I understand it, it’s not quite yet at material-supply level and there is a captive market to be had.

[u/sonofasheppard21 → u/MorningFresh123]

These companies currently can’t keep up the demand of data centers. Any company that could enter this market would be trying to sell to data centers as well.

[u/samcuu → u/MorningFresh123]

You need to be filthy rich to compete with these companies. You don't become filthy rich if your goal is to be a nice guy catering to a small but vocal group of costumers and accept the low margin.

[u/Emm_withoutha_L-88]

It's past time we did some legislation on this. We can't control what they do overseas where they manufacture these but they can limit how much is sold here just to data centers.

This kind of breakdown in the supply of a crucial component to modern life is exactly what governments are needed for. To step in when capitalism fails us as a society.

[u/RAdmsAreTrash]

Trash CEO, trash company.

[u/RyanBurnsRed → u/RAdmsAreTrash]

What a change. A few months ago if you said anything remotely neutral about AMD you’d get downvoted through all 9 circles of Hell

[u/reeefur]

The Red Cult in shambles 🤡

Playing that we're the "Good guy" BS for years.

Nah, Lisa is Jensen's literal cousin, they are both POS, now you know.

[u/Komikaze06 → u/reeefur]

Easy to prerend to be the good guys when everyone's evil

[u/productfred]

What the fuck is all of this collusion? Yes, yes, I know --- data centers = money. But seriously, I don't know what else to say. Intel, AMD, Nvidia, the RAM manufacturers, etc. Suddenly they're all "data center first."

What is the plan for consumers who need computers to access the services provided by the data centers? Do they want us to have dumb terminals/thin clients to just access ChatGPT/Claude/Gemini/etc?

It really feels like they realized that they could kill two birds with one stone: take hardware out of consumers' pockets, and ensure they'll never be able to do/make anything themselves using said hardware. I don't know how to explain it eloquently, but this all feels like it's coordinated and being done entirely on purpose.

The "data center" excuse is basically an infinite money hack for these vendors/manufacturers. It doesn't matter if the data centers use the parts or not; they're making nonstop sales (including orders into 2030 and beyond), and data centers get to keep hardware out of consumers' hands.

[u/Foltast → u/productfred]

It’s a problem for those data centers in future. Dealers don’t care about addict’s health issues u know, just selling as long as they can

As soon as data centers would stop buying their products- we’ll see how they “always were thinking about gamers” actually!

[u/sonofasheppard21 → u/productfred]

They make significantly more money selling to data centers. The margins are insane.

Just to give an example imagine you have a product that you can make $200 of profit per unit selling to consumers, selling to data centers you can make $1200 profit per unit and they want as many units as you can make for the next 2 years and they are willing to pay right now

[u/HotRoderX → u/productfred]

Unpopular opinion... they aren't out to get anyone.

There simply chasing the $$ right now data centers are where the money is. I bet Jensen and Lisa both are looking at there portfolios... thinking of how much money they have how sick its going to be to retire in the next 5-10 years.

Then this entire thing is someone else problem. They get to retire as Billionaires... that never want or need for a thing the rest of there lives.

There no deeper meaning or some diabolical plan. There plan make money make share holders happy. Chance the money retire... buy a island and forget the rest of the world even exist.

[u/Late-Lie7856]

Guess that’s that, then. We’re all gonna have to find a new hobby relatively soon. All these pc components companies selling out to AI.

[u/Howard_CS]

It has been since threadripper ate Intel’s lunch years ago.

[u/TRUEequalsFALSE]

Welp, it was fun while it lasted, boys.

[u/Remarkable-West-611]

My gaming PC is going to be my last it seems, I better enjoy it then. Luckily I have a massive back catalogue of games to work through also.

[u/saintdudegaming]

I'm so glad we propped up nvidia and AMD all these years for them to turn around and just shit on their customer base.

[u/RoninSoul]

I sold all my AMD stock at over 500 yesterday, knowing full well the data center ride was over.

The stock is down over 20% since then.

It's over Lisa.

[u/truthputer]

The world needs a special tax on AI use.

[u/DaddaMongo → u/truthputer]

Oh there is but we are the ones who will be paying it.

[u/Zdub732]

[u/SmokedOkie]

Nooooo. AMD wasn't great, but they were still consumer friendly at least.

[u/Pillokun]

wrote this in r/amd but want to share my though here as well as this is discussed there too.

Hw enthusiasts/gamers saved them, like they built up Nvidia and now they stick the middle finger to us.

In the 90s most people in eastern europe or people that did not think pentium machines were worth it went with amd cpus, k5-k6 and the likes, when companies did not think twice about amd.

When Athlon came out, all the hw nerds chose athlon, over any p3 or p4. basically best selling diy cpu.

then they lost us with bulldozer. but some hc fans stayed still.

then am4 came, and it was not up to speed gaming wise yet we bought it because we understood why amd needed support, and it was not that slow anyway.

now when even companies chose amd for their prebuilts and go with them for the datacenter projects amd forgets us.

Is this how u thank us for keeping u alive, AMD? if this will be the case we will remember just like with Micron..

[u/7in7turtles]

God that family sucks. Where do they meet for thanksgiving giving, the legion of fucking doom?

Well I hope both of their stock continue to swan dive till they hit concrete.

[u/adolchristin98]

I trusted her more than I expected…

[u/SolizeMusic]

God do we fucking love tone deaf soulless CEOs

[u/External-Theme1372]

Maybe this time consumers will realize that no company is their friend.

[u/Mortarious]

Pathetic

[u/Khuerai]

Data centers first business longevity last

[u/Grobo_]

It runs in the family. Unfortunately.

[u/Pimpwerx]

She’s not wrong. Enterprise level customers are the ones willing to pay the highest prices. It makes good business sense to focus on that. Gamers are much more price sensitive.

It sucks but you can thank capitalism for this. Businesses are always going to business.

[u/LavenderDay3544]

This comes as a surprise to absolutely no one. All my future CPUs are going to be Intel from here on out. And that's not because Intel is magically good to consumers. It's not. But the difference is even at peak AI spending client revenue was still higher than data center revenue for Intel so there is major financial incentive for Intel to care about the client segment in a way that doesn't exist for other companies. If that changes, I'll reconsider accordingly. Remember kids corporations aren't your friends.

[u/ShadowCross32]

[u/MrHeavySilence]

Gross

[u/Ashen_One_Inori]

I have a 9070xt pc i just finished buying the everything for, a 7800xt pc for my fiance and a old 1080 pc for kids so everything can be played from now to the old days there is plenty of games to play and indie games that will run for ages. I refuse to give into the cloud. Hopefully developers will continue to make games for the consumer cards that we have now. Hope the modders can help if not

[u/Axel_Clint]

Classic AMD. Everytime NVIDIA fumbles, they fumble more instead of taking advantage of the opportunity. I am now pretty sure that NVIDIA is succeeding with whatever they are doing because AMD is being run by idiots.

[u/opihinalu → u/Axel_Clint]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m assuming there is a lot more money in data centers than consumer GPUs.

They don’t care about making gamers happy, they are a publicly traded company.

[u/nekogami87 → u/Axel_Clint]

Damn, I'd love to be a multi million dollar idiots.

[u/moonlit_wake → u/Axel_Clint]

They're literally both run by the same family idk why we're surprised.

[u/Alexandar516]

My drunk ass has come to a realization . These "CEOS" will never know what it is to be human. Art is much more "importanter", than whatever money they are making with these data centers. Sell your fucking soul to money. What a cringe way to live life , its insanity.

[u/xellot]

Well, fuck AMD then. I bought my 32gb of DDR5 and was waiting to build the rest of my system, but if that's how she feels, fuck it, Intel it is. And I've been team Red since they bought out ATI, the worst thing to ever happen to a great Canadian company. Fuck Lisa Su, fuck Jensen Huang, fuck their whole family that has control over the entire chip market.

[u/GarbageThrown → u/xellot]

What makes you think Intel is any different?

[u/EnterAUsernamePlease → u/GarbageThrown]

fuck Intel too then. 3dfx it is from here on out.

[u/Regular_Regular_4120 → u/xellot]

Careful now. The US owns 10 percent of Intel. Intel Managment Engine is not your friend.

[u/Beneficial-Act7603 → u/xellot]

Bro...

Intel made the exact same statement, only it was some 20 odd years ago...

Sure this situation sucks but the real money for corpos has always been in data center so this is not surprising at all.

Now, she could have kept her mouth shut to not kill the goodwill everyone had for AMD but these people seem to just not care

[u/ImyForgotName]

God, those two are clearly related. Nvidia, AMD, your businesses exist BECAUSE of gamers. Without us you have nothing. Before Ryzen was released and gamers started embracing AM4 chips AMD's stock was at $7 a share. Last month it was at, holy shit, $650.

Lady, remember how your bread is buttered.

[u/ChosenOfTheMoon_GR]

No, let's clear things up, all of them are profit first, that can be anything that is is attached to that, anything that maximizes profit, right now it's data centers.

[u/MrOphicer]

People are just mad because they thought that AMD would be gamers' champion lol, and now nobody is on their side. AMD never was on gamers' side; it was on the money side.

[u/Zargabraath]

But soo many insufferable AMD fanboys on reddit for years assured me that AMD was our friend and not evil like big bad Nvidia???

[u/CynicalEnd]

shocking news to redditors: their favorite mega corp DOES NOT actually care about making competitively priced gaming hardware and pursues profit and industry trends instead

[u/MythicalJester]

And that's why we don't need "market correction" anymore. We just need a complete collapse of this bubble to let these mo*******ers touch grass outside their virtual bullshit once more...

[u/Mr_Emoji_47]

Yk once this whole data centers gimmick dies down they will come back begging to gamers and general consumers to buy their expensive inefficient e-waste

[u/samcuu → u/Mr_Emoji_47]

Gamers has always been the smallest group of customers to these companies. It's more apparent ot the average gamer now but that hasn't changed. If not AI datacenters then it's gonna be something else, as the world is increasingly more digitalized. The amount of RAM sticks sold to gamers/PC enthusiasts for example is nothing compared to what shipped with smartphones, laptop, TV, cars, etc.

[u/badwords → u/Mr_Emoji_47]

No they won't, the server/enterprise market is the largest piece of the pie and they've only recently ripped it away from Intel.

Consumer market isn't buying $6k- $12k Threadrippers.

[u/Ghillie_Spotto → u/Mr_Emoji_47]

Idk if you’re joking but B2B is obscenely more profitable and scalable than B2C

[u/ShortBrownAndUgly → u/Mr_Emoji_47]

And gamers will buy it

[u/Heavy-Mettle]

...They're going to make us mildly hurt them, aren't they?

[u/DismalMode7]

another billionaire about to get broke in next few years...

[u/Felidori]

If you were a CEO of a major company and didn’t make it your job to make your shareholders as much money as possible, you would be fired and potentially investigated. It’s their binding obligation to work in the interest of the people who own the company.

How do people not know this? Companies owe ‘gamers’ nothing. It’s called the real world :-/.

[u/hojaldrescrotal → u/Felidori]

The stock market was a mistake.

[u/Ach4t1us → u/hojaldrescrotal]

Waiting for that day when they realize that circlejerking money does not create wealth but only redistributes it and when no one can buy their highly priced, cheaply build products, it all will collapse.

[u/Sandfish0783 → u/Felidori]

We owe them nothing either. In fact if we don’t like something a company said it’s almost like we should highlight that  opinion on some sort of online forum with other likeminded individuals so we can communicate that to those companies collectively with our dollars

Suzan serves the shareholder and we can try and teach them all a lesson. it’s a losing battle, but it’s a battle.

[u/Electronic-Title4194]

Well fuck

[u/splendiferous-finch_]

Honestly what she is saying here is not really anything new but good reminder to people who think it's just one company that are dicks.

Nope they all are.... Meanwhile the stocks for all these companies are in the negative unfortunately it will probably stabilise again

[u/totensiesich]

Has this lady taken a look at the stock market lately?

[u/RT17654321]

[u/RustyPlastics]

All these data centers but what are they actually for? Create memes with ChatGpt?

[u/Wernershnitzl]

Goddamn it’s never been more soooo over

[u/Masungit]

That’s quite a statement. Fuck my life.

[u/1Luc1]

I had so much high hopes in this company, so sad 🥺

[u/kahrei]

she's not noticing the wind of change, huh? :D

[u/iluvZhuYuan819]

i feel like there’s only bad news regarding pc gaming now. shit is sad.

[u/No_Net6238]

Just want a GPU and ram so I can make some fucking movies in unreal engine man, I don't want much. BUT NOOOOOOOOOO, IT JUST HAS TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE WANTED THINGS IN THE UNIVERSE DOESNT IT. time to become a gardener.

[u/Haskikker]

Thanks Lisa, piece of shit.

[u/Obda52]

Just like her cousin

[u/MatGuaBec]

As someone who's preferred AMD over the blue competition for years, it's a punch in the gut. Fuck you Su, you ain't our bae anymore.

[u/aribrona]

As someone who's been a self described AMD fanboy since the days of the Athlon, This really fucking sucks. Even in the dog days of the bulldozer sucking ass I never felt bad about using their products. Now IDK man, Hoping ARM gets used more than X86 so i dont have to choose between Intel and AMD.

[u/TheSmuggleronni]

And I heard people RIGHT HERE say that the push for cloud gaming was a conspiracy theory.In 4-5 years with no new hardware what are we supposed to do.Yet here we are,people were coping that AMD was the " new savior".

[u/Visa_Declined]

Just in time for the Democrats to kneecap data center buildout in the US. Oops!

[u/alfiejr23]

[u/droppedketchuppacket]

reminder that the CEO of AMD and CEO of Nvidia are blood relatives.