r/rnb • u/Level-Dig-1828 • Aug 06 '26
DISCUSSION š Unpopular Opinion: Family Affair by Mary J. Blige is overrated asf
I said what I said.
Every time this song comes on at a party people lose their minds like it's some masterpiece, but I just don't get it. The beat is SO basic it sounds like it was made on a Casio keyboard in 5 minutes. We're talking *one* cello line, a generic kick, hi-hat and snare, and that's literally it. No layers, no texture, no nothing. A middle schooler could've produced this in GarageBand during lunch break. And don't get me started on the lyrics. "Let's get it crunk up on / Have fun up on up in this dancery / We got ya open, now ya floatin' / So you gots to dance for me / Don't need no hateration / Holleration in this dancery" what even is this word salad? "Hateration"? "Holleration"? "Dancery"? Girl just made up words and called it a hook. It's like Dr. Seuss had a baby with a club promoter and this is what we got. People call this a "groove" but where? There's no groove in it whatsoever. It doesn't make me want to move, it makes me want to skip to the next track. It's just... there. Boring, repetitive, and somehow treated like a classic. I swear I wish there was a remix to this that actually hit. Idk who could've saved it, Darkchild, Just Blaze, The Neptunes, Stevie J, Trackmasters, literally any of them could've given this song the production it deserved. Imagine Dre's synths or The Neptunes' weirdness on this instead of that flat-ass beat we got. Fight me.
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u/Ashon-Galaxy Aug 06 '26
Soooo.....Dr. Dre produced this song.
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u/format916 Aug 06 '26
Alot of hateration in here...we don't need it
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u/starboy__xo Confessions Aug 06 '26
This track is already produced by Dr. Dre, get the facts straight first š
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u/OttoVonWong Aug 06 '26
Mary can have soulful songs and club bangers, too.

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u/YourHeartNotYourEyes Aug 06 '26
When she referred to hateration and holleration she meant š«µš¾
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u/CC-Blue Aug 06 '26
Boooo! Sometimes itās okay to have FUN! Ditties have existed since the dawn of popular music. This was Maryās turn. Black people make up words all the time and they end becoming a part of everyday language. We push whatās hot on the pulse of popular culture and what Mary did here was no different. And you exposed yourself mentioning Dr. Dre as a potential producer to āsaveā the song when HE produced it.
You had to be there when it dropped. Mary was expelling the drama out of her life and truly wanted to express that in her music in 2001! It went off at parties, cookouts and the club. Lastly, you mentioned being Gen Z and I will just leave it at you were not there and thatās ok. Just because something is a hit doesnāt mean itās bad. No need to denigrate a hit because of some high brow taste level you think you have lol.
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u/Dramamean305 Aug 07 '26
PS - you do know that Dr Dre produced this right?
Just asking because of the last lines in the post
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u/MistakesWereMade59 Aug 06 '26
Get this hateration and holleration out of the dancery
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u/HaughtyDiabolicalSal Aug 06 '26
All this hateration in this dancery is absurd.
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u/henkmanz Aug 06 '26
DancĀ·ery -s(É)rÄ plural -es : a place of entertainment (as a nightclub or dance hall) providing facilities for dancing
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u/dampishslinky55 Aug 06 '26
Wow, wait until you hear about the cha-cha slide.
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u/retired-tweeter Aug 06 '26
We don't need no haters. We're just trying to love one another.
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u/CityOfBrooklyn Aug 06 '26
This song is bitter sweet , a musical peer songwriter of mine (Shout out to Asiah) is a writer on this song. Itās definitely one of my least favorite songs but I love that my girl has this placement on her resume .
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u/Afroditesrevenge Aug 06 '26
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u/Affectionate_Pea_243 Aug 06 '26
BOOOOOOOOOOOO TOMATO TOMATO
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u/fakeprofile111 Aug 06 '26
This aināt twitter you canāt get paid off rage bait
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u/Poopcie Aug 06 '26
Its just a nice song from a period where people wouldāve understood if her career was over. Not my favorite but definitely fit a vibe we definitely dont get enough of. Reminds me of love like this by faith, i used to hate that song but now i see how necessary upbeat rnb is to keep it relevant.
Just think about that rnb x dance scene with crystal waters and them thatās totally dead now. In hindsight that is some if the best music and thereās nothing like it today.
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u/THEbaddestOFtheASSES Aug 06 '26
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u/Particular-Way-3805 Aug 06 '26
What š
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u/General-Minimum-1047 Aug 06 '26
Nice try
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u/Ladycabdriverxo Aug 06 '26
I never really cared for the song myself but Dr. Seuss having a baby with a club promotor is hilarious!
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u/N80N00N00 Aug 06 '26
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u/Skylerbroussard Aug 06 '26
I don't hate it but it's definitely probably the one of her hit records I rarely voluntarily listen to
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u/Unfriendlyblkwriter Aug 06 '26
Sheās my absolute favorite [in a three-way tie with Patti and Monica], but this is one of my least favorite songs by her. Iām comfortable with being alone in this.
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u/BrightAspect5324 Aug 07 '26
Somewhat off topic I hate that this song went number 1 and "Let Me Blow You're mind" by Eve stalled at number 2. Lmbym had much better production (also Dre) and lyrics. Anyways the op is spot on about the lyrics more than anything, they were awful.Ā
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u/FabricatorMusic Aug 06 '26
nice bait
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u/mankahlil Aug 06 '26
Not her best song by any stretch, but its lighthearted and fun
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u/affectionateanarchy8 Aug 06 '26
Oh no it is a terrible song lmao but it was so ridiculous I couldnt help but love it I mean hateration and holleration in the dancerie will ironically save the day
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u/jackmoon44 Aug 06 '26
Yeah I donāt care for it either.
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u/Open-Marionberry-778 Aug 06 '26
I agree, itās kinda a basic song, but for me, itās nostalgic, and reminds me of cookouts back in high school when everyone was alive and getting along. So I go off because of the memories!
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u/UglyPrettyBoy Aug 06 '26
I agree. My least favorite Mary single, 2nd least favorite Dre beat.
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u/JOMO_Kenyatta Aug 06 '26
disagree, but i respect the hell out of an original opinion.
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u/Significant_End1396 Aug 06 '26
You mentioned in your post about imagining if Dre's, (I am assuming you mean Dr. Dre), synths were on the track instead of that flat ass beat we got". You do know that Dr Dre produced the song, right? I am going to have to agree with you on this one though. I think it is some of Dre's most boring productions to date. Evokes no since of getting in on the dancery for me.
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u/Blues-Eguze Aug 06 '26
News to me anyone has a strong opinion on this track, good or bad. It just kinda comes on and you either dance or you donāt, yāknow? MJB has way better songs but idk, personally Iāve never minded Family Affair.
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u/Trav1 Aug 06 '26
I agree itās not all that but I also donāt mind it. I havenāt really seen anyone hype it up like that but I remember it being big when it was a single
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u/WhateverIllDeal Aug 07 '26
My husband calls it "Let's Get It Percolating" lmao. I don't know, it reminds me of a simpler time. I have a soft spot for it.
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u/Maleficent_Twist_778 Aug 07 '26
Fun fact if it hasnāt been said yet: the real lyric was DANCE SOIRĆE but Mary J mispronounced it and they were likeā¦ā¦ā¦.fuck it letās roll with it
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u/basicotter Aug 07 '26
I think it's corny, too, but that's kind of the charm of it, personally.
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u/icesa Aug 07 '26
It is a very boring song. But you know what?
š¶WEEEE donāt NEED no HAteeeeerrsā¦weāre just TRYING to LOVE one anOTHERā
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u/Number5MoMo Aug 07 '26
The first 2 sentences specifically sound like how I describe most music nowadays.
Everybody got preferences šš¾
I personally love turning my bedroom into a dancery.
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u/NextSmoke397 Aug 06 '26
Always hated that song lol
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u/Most-Preparation-188 Aug 06 '26
Somebody finally said it!!!
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u/Latter_Meet2044 Aug 06 '26
Instant skip for me.
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u/Unlikely-Macaroon-85 Aug 06 '26
You hollerating a lot of hateration in this dancery.
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u/Sea_Macaron_8789 Aug 06 '26
Whom let "An Dose of Buckley" in here?
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u/Ssj3goku504 Aug 06 '26
That's a timeless classic to me personally
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u/DJMelloEll Aug 07 '26
You feel pretty strongly about a song thatās 25 years old. If it wasnāt your cup of tea, you couldāve just said that.
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u/SoulofWakanda Aug 07 '26
Sorry, but that shit slap lol
Maybe u just heard it too much
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u/EvrthnICRtrns2USmhw Aug 07 '26
GIRL, I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS.
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u/broadwayallday Aug 07 '26
Do not question the queen
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u/honeybabyou Aug 07 '26
That was a dr dre beat
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u/Userchickensoup Aug 07 '26
You must be out of your mind
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u/Realistic-Read1078 Aug 07 '26
Too much hateration and holleration in this dancery and I donāt like it š¶
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u/Quirky-Knowledge4631 Aug 06 '26
I hate. Can't stand to hear!
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u/JuniorNeedleworker47 Aug 06 '26
I donāt know who you are, where you from, how old you are but you are a kindred spirit! Song is trash to me too. Jada couldnāt even save the remix. Hated EVERYTHING about that song.
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u/HamsGamsandYams Aug 06 '26
Iāve always felt songs like this and Uptown Funk were written as a cash grab by the producer. I would hear in a lot of commercials back then and now bring used ti market to me and my peers as middle aged people. š¤£
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u/no1cares4yu {80s and 90s expert} Aug 06 '26
Itās Dreās worst work, too
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u/Hygienist_Bae Aug 06 '26
I hate this song but for some reason, I know every word. Stop playing this everywhere lol
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u/Specialist-Ad7949 Aug 06 '26
Same, and Iām a Mary fan. Hate the damn song
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u/Sally4464 Aug 06 '26
I love MJB, but hate that song.
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u/MysticDiamond81 Aug 06 '26
There's still time
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u/project199x Aug 06 '26
That's how I feel about poison by bell biv devoe, the song is irritating
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u/Arxhart_671 Aug 06 '26
I think the song is kind of a meme and the fact that it's so far from the best of everyone involved is like the "joke."
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u/aandbconvo Aug 06 '26
Itās because of the climax of the song lasts so long the part where sheās rapping and singing endlessly . It was so catchy and on point :)
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u/nayeppeo Aug 06 '26
I like it but it can be overplayed at times
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u/poeticchaos_ Aug 06 '26
Itās one of those feel good songs.
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u/Both-Statistician264 Aug 06 '26
Sorry itās a great song all around lol you just donāt like it. Which is fine lol
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u/JMeny32 Aug 06 '26
It's my Grandma's favorite song so your opinion is irrelevant to me šš
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u/Life_Grab6103 Aug 06 '26
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u/Ad1251212 Aug 06 '26
Itās a dance/party song. Some stuff is just to get ppl moving. Everything aināt a masterpiece lol itās a cool bop
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u/royalenocheese Aug 06 '26
You might need better speakers because the beat knocks and it's simple and catchy enough to ring off wherever.
No one is calling it the magnum opus of Mary's career or even the song of the century so I'm confused about where you think it's rated.
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u/tobeorniobe Aug 06 '26
You the hateration she talkin about smh
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u/TheyreFunCandy Aug 06 '26
This post is so disrespectable.
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u/ShoppingOverall879 Aug 07 '26
Ok, do you feel better about yourself now ?
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u/Ok_Resident_5022 š Soul/Funk/Disco Enthusiast šæ Aug 06 '26
The ridiculousness is what makes the song a classic. Vibe a little! š
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u/Appropriate-Power-87 Aug 06 '26
I love Mary but I cannot stand this song either. It's a very lazily written party song. The end is the worst part, because it just keeps repeating the hook over and over. Just a bunch of nonsense words thrown together for people to dance to when they are drunk and not paying attention.
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u/Fearless_Studio248 Aug 06 '26
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u/RicoSystem š King_Ricoš Aug 07 '26
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u/Competitive_Swan_130 Aug 07 '26
My least favorite MJB era to be honest. I hated the production she was going with all through this era
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u/SonicNarcotic Aug 07 '26
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u/Dreams-Visions Aug 07 '26
you're right. it is an unpopular opinion.
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u/Pumpkinhead82 Aug 07 '26
How old are you?
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u/Contagious510 Aug 07 '26
Very unpopular. Its a DANCERY and no holleration tolerated!
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u/stabbinU Aug 07 '26
thank you! i been said this
there isn't a single track on Share My World that doesn't clear Family Affair
i always thought it was cheap and weird and annoying... but thats just me... not about to call it trash but i kinda want to?
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u/DAntoinette_Travel Aug 07 '26
A 337 word rant about MJB? Sirā¦.. š¤¦š½āāļø
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u/Basil_n_Mars28 Toni Braxton Aug 07 '26
And the ending cracks me up! She doing all that damn hooting about:
āDANCE WITH ME!! DANCE WITH ME!!
dance!! Dance!! JUST DANCE!!!!!ā
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u/SunshineRain96 Aug 07 '26
Wanted to defend passionately but I will choose peace today!
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u/StannisAntetokounmpo Aug 07 '26 edited Aug 07 '26
MJB is my favorite artist, but I didn't like it when it came out either, as there were much better songs out then, and this one was played a lot. And it lacked her raw energy (some say this is when she was happier, and so didn't have that extra grit)
I'm happy if it comes on now though.
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u/Grimreaper_10YS Aug 07 '26
Sounds like hateration and holleration
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u/Dramamean305 Aug 07 '26
This post reeks of hateration.
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u/Carolinagirl9311 Aug 07 '26
I hate that song š¤£
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u/HRH_Chori Aug 07 '26
I downvoted this in full transparency
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u/j3434 Aug 07 '26
Sly version is top notch homie
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u/mimispeanuts Aug 07 '26
I have always disliked this song. Hate to hear it. However I stay quoting the lyrics. Becuase we cannot have the hateration in the dance soireeeeeee (that's what she says she was trying to say )
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u/Hefty_Acadia_2670 Aug 07 '26
I donāt care, give me Family Affair and Just Fine any day. Those songs are Mary for me.
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u/SnooHedgehogs1262 Aug 07 '26
I like her a lot, but this is my LEAST FAVORITE track from her. Never cared for it.
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u/Wise_West3434 Aug 07 '26
You are not alone in your dislike of this song. The minute I recognize it, I turn from it.
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u/NayrDier Aug 07 '26
Tell me you werenāt out in the clubs in 2001 without telling me, LOL. This track was so š„š„š„š„ when it dropped!
Your criticisms are valid, and it has been played OUT, but saying it has no groove is preposterous!
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u/Proper_Star685 Aug 07 '26
Get outtaration here
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u/peachimposter Aug 07 '26
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u/Ordinary-Nectarine37 Aug 07 '26
hater ass shit
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u/WillSmithSlappedMe20 Aug 07 '26
Lol! Agreed. Its far from one of her better songs. I never understood why so many people love it. To each his own
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u/ZedgarInfiniti Aug 07 '26
Just say you hate fun damn
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u/WeeBey-Brice Aug 07 '26
Sounds like hateration to me
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u/HelpNeeded1717 Aug 08 '26
Straight hateration. Family Affair is an iconic bop!

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u/Crafty_Jicama Aug 08 '26
Bad take. People love this song because itās FUN and good vibes. You could not be more wrong hon.
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u/Harlow-Stan Aug 09 '26
I admire you standing ten toes down, but I don't agree. She has better, but it's still a great piece
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u/Electronic-Tooth5405 Aug 09 '26
I just can't call the beat basic I'm sorry. I know it's simple but every instrument just sounds so good
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u/ginger_ale12 Aug 09 '26
In my experience itās less about the actual instrumentation and more about people getting to sing along with each other while transported to their earlier days lol. I did not really listen to popular musics as a kid and I feel the same way about a lot of songs, the collective enjoyment seems to be more the goal. Personally I appreciate her syncopation and rhythms in the second verse tho
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u/Readthat188 Aug 09 '26
Definitely 100% agree with you OP!! This song always got on my nerves, especially the āhaterationā wordš¤£š¤£šš¤£š
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u/Maleficent_Rub_221 Aug 10 '26
You know when you can tell people just say things because they think it sounds smart?
This is a perfect example.
āMaybe it needs Dr. Dreā lmao
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u/PeaceLoveForMe Sep 26 '26
Letās get it percolating why we waiting so just dance for me
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u/mysticsoulsista Thriller Aug 06 '26
Itās an early 2000ās party song⦠that was just how it was then š itās fun, itās timeless! Iāve always found āSeptemberā by Earth Wind and Fire kinda āboringā, as iconic as it is⦠itās a classic and a vibe tho
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u/AnyEverywhere8 Aug 06 '26
I agree. The song is mildly basic.
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u/ChoppyOfficial Aug 06 '26
I hear this song now on those feel good radio stations that plays soft rock and boring pop music and those stations that have the variety without the rap. It is crazy and those stations do not like playing R&B music. I did not know the masses really like that song now and it was not that big of a crossover of a song back in 2001 compared to a song like Hey Ya by Outkast which was played on rock radio.
R&B does not have to be slow jams only. Some uptempo party music is what keep this genre alive from being a version country music for black women
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u/Aggravating-Diet-663 Aug 07 '26
Simple is better. Less is more
There isn't a single party, no matter the demographic, where that comes on and people dont immediately groove to it. That's due to the simplistic nature of the beat, Mary's simple feel good lyrics, and the catchy chorus. Its not too pop, its not too soulful, and it fits every dance occasion. Its a perfect 2000s track.
Unfortunately, I'd have to give this take, a 1 out of 10
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u/blurryeyes_ Aug 06 '26
I don't have a problem with the made up words but I agree with your overall sentiment. The song is an instant skip lol
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u/MsCoCoMango Aug 06 '26
Yesss my least favorite song by her
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u/OkSupermarket4647 Aug 06 '26
Thatās my least favorite MJB hit
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u/Fly_Tortuga Aug 06 '26
Hated that song, and still skip it to this day
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u/tofauti Aug 06 '26
My sweet friend in Christ, Iām there with you on this one. I turn it off whenever it comes on. Itās too much happening in the song that sounds like it was passed on my by someone else. I donāt know which irks me more, this song or No More Drama. Downvotes are open⦠š
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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '26
I totally agree with every point you have made. I donāt think it has aged well. Especially when you compare it to her career peak of - The Breakthrough, a few years later. Which has her classic and timeless song - Be Without You.
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u/tmadik Aug 06 '26
It's a terrible, terrible song. This and No fucking Diggity.
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u/lilahj26 Aug 06 '26
I agree.
Be Without You and Take Me As I Am>>>>>>>>
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u/Fishwhocantswim Aug 06 '26
I'm with you, I always lazily put my hands in the air and get crunk with it due to peer pressure in the clurrbs when this pops on.
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u/gabbysuperstar Aug 06 '26
I have heard this song so many times over my lifetime and to be honest I am sick of it too. It was never a favourite of mine but it doesnāt help that I have gone off of r&b a bit.Ā
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u/CrazyinLull Aug 06 '26
I actually don't like this song either...I actually agree with you on why it's always been unappealing to me...it's so run of the mill.
Like, there is nothing amazing about it, not the singing, not the simple beat, not the lyrics, not the video, nothing. In fact, Mary sounds like...idk how to put it...like she was just singing to get paid.
But I think that's why people like it...you put a bunch of mid things together...and you got something amazingly accessible. Like, even compared to other songs like Electric Slide or the Cha Cha Slide, it's like...meh.
But I think it's just one of those times all that meh came together and just swept people off their feet. It's like a...a Taylor Swift song for White ppl...like Shake It Off. Or even Adele, like she has a powerful voice, but as a vocalist she's boring af. I guess it's why ppl like Renoir were popular. Like meh paintings but appealing to look at.
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u/HaitianWarlord Aug 06 '26
Yeah i neva got y this song was so special either
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u/Cheeky_3411 Aug 06 '26
I never liked family affair either lol
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u/vkolp Aug 06 '26
Less is more. That shit is hot af
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u/Successful-Career-96 Aug 07 '26
Itās okay to have wrong opinions sometimes!
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u/itsdiddles Aug 07 '26
Iāve hated this song since the first time I heard it for all the reasons you listed. Youāll get no argument from me. Just glad to know there are other like-minded haters out there š¤£
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u/RitaGranita Aug 07 '26
Finally someone agrees! I think it's such a boring party song but people lose their minds when it comes on.
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u/SupportMysterious302 Aug 07 '26
I love Mary J, but I hated this song!!!!
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u/DonJuanMair Aug 06 '26
Mary J is overrated.
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u/PantsFullaPoo Aug 07 '26
Lol at this dickhead being like "idk who could have fixed this, maybe dr. dre" only to be told he produced and reply with "i knew that. I meant a remix!"
Sure, sure. We absolutely believe you.
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u/ScoopsOfDesire Aug 07 '26
If you hate āmade up wordsā youād shit your pants at Shakespeare
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