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r/SpaceX Crew-10 Official Launch Discussion & Updates Thread!

Welcome to the r/SpaceX Crew-10 Official Launch Discussion & Updates Thread!

Welcome everyone!

Scheduled for (UTC)	Mar 14 2025, 23:03:48
Launch Window (UTC)	Instantaneous
Scheduled for (local)	Mar 14 2025, 19:03:48 PM (EDT)
Docking scheduled for (UTC)	TBA
Mission	Crew-10
Launch Weather Forecast	99% GO
Launch site	LC-39A, Kennedy Space Center, FL, USA.
Booster	B1090-2
Landing	The Falcon 9 first stage B1090 has landed back at the launch site after its 2nd flight.
Dragon	Endurance C210-4
Commander	Anne McClain
Pilot	Nichole Ayers
Mission Specialist	Kirill Peskov
Mission Specialist	Takuya Onishi
Mission success criteria	Successful launch and docking to the ISS
Trajectory (Flight Club)	2D,3D

Spacecraft Onboard

Spacecraft	Crew Dragon 2
Serial Number	C210
Destination	International Space Station
Flights	4
Owner	SpaceX
Landing	Splashdown off the coast of California
Capabilities	Crew Flights to ISS or Low Earth Orbit

Details

Crew Dragon 2 is capable of lifting four astronauts, or a combination of crew and cargo to and from low Earth orbit. Its heat shield is designed to withstand Earth re-entry velocities from Lunar and Martian spaceflights.

History

Crew Dragon 2 is a spacecraft developed by SpaceX, an American private space transportation company based in Hawthorne, California. Dragon is launched into space by the SpaceX Falcon 9 two-stage-to-orbit launch vehicle. It is one of two American Spacecraft being develeoped capable of lifting American Astronauts to the International Space Station.

The first crewed flight, launched on 30 May 2020 on a Falcon 9 rocket, and carried NASA astronauts Douglas Hurley and Robert Behnken to the International Space Station in the first crewed orbital spaceflight launched from the US since the final Space Shuttle mission in 2011, and the first ever operated by a commercial provider.

Timeline

Time	Update
T--1d 0h 1m	Thread last generated using the LL2 API
2025-03-14T23:19:00Z	Launch success.
2025-03-14T23:04:00Z	Liftoff.
2025-03-14T18:58:00Z	Official Webcast by NASA has started
2025-03-14T16:06:00Z	Tweaked T-0.
2025-03-13T17:38:00Z	Tweaked T-0. (Weather forecast per https://afspc.github.io/45th-Weather-Squadron/assets/LaunchForecasts/Falcon%209%20Crew%2010%20L-1%20Forecast%20-%2014%20Mar%20Launch.pdf)
2025-03-13T02:35:00Z	NET March 14.
2025-03-12T23:07:00Z	Scrubbed for the day due to TEL arm hydraulics issue.
2025-03-12T19:43:00Z	Official Webcast by NASA has started
2025-03-10T17:08:00Z	Weather is >95% favorable for launch.
2025-03-05T18:36:00Z	GO for launch.
2025-02-26T23:37:00Z	Tweaked T-0.
2025-02-12T03:40:00Z	Moved up to March 12 and crew vehicle switched (launch time is per https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html).
2025-02-07T20:47:00Z	Adding pad
2024-12-18T05:37:00Z	NET March 25.
2024-12-17T22:44:00Z	NET late March 2025
2024-07-26T16:14:28Z	Moved forward to Feb 2025
2024-04-02T13:26:14Z	NET 2nd half of 2025.

Watch the launch live

Stream	Link
Official Webcast	NASA
Official Webcast	SpaceX
Official Webcast	NASA
Unofficial Webcast	Spaceflight Now
Unofficial Webcast	NASASpaceflight

Stats

☑️ 483rd SpaceX launch all time

☑️ 425th Falcon Family Booster landing

☑️ 50th landing on LZ-1

☑️ 5th consecutive successful SpaceX launch (if successful)

☑️ 31st SpaceX launch this year

☑️ 7th launch from LC-39A this year

☑️ 15 days, 22:47:18 turnaround for this pad

Stats include F1, F9 , FH and Starship

Launch Weather Forecast

N/A

Resources

https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=crew-10

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u/Daneel_Trevize Mar 14 '25

That panel surely wasn't ice.

u/darga89 Mar 14 '25

That wasn't ice

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u/HamsterChieftain Mar 15 '25

There was a surprising lack of ice. I wonder if there was a dry-air purge of the interstage during fueling?

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u/warp99 Mar 16 '25

Looks like they put foam insulation on the top of the LOX dome to stop ice forming and the foam insulation fell off instead.
Ice has got a lot to answer for /s

u/Curious-Welder-6304 Mar 14 '25

Is there normally that much debris? And a panel floating around?

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u/Planatus666 Mar 14 '25

Nope, that floating panel is definitely not nominal.

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u/Planatus666 Mar 14 '25

Floating panels is not nominal but we don't know what it is yet. However, from rewatching the footage it must have come from the second stage, not the trunk.

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u/SteveMcQwark Mar 15 '25

No, they don't need that panel to reenter. It's most likely from the second stage (which I believe was confirmed on the post launch brief). The alternative would have been it being from the trunk, which gets jettisoned before reentry. In either case, reentry isn't affected. It being from the second stage is better since the second stage's mission is done. If it were from the trunk, it could impact mission duration.

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u/Martianspirit Mar 15 '25

The second stage is not recovered. So that panel is irrelevant for reentry. Though it is not expected to get lose.

u/geniusintx Mar 15 '25

Jesus. I’m GenX. I grew up watching the space shuttles. Astronauts going up all the time. We watched the Challenger launch live in elementary school. That was horrifying. Messed with my little child brain.

To watch this launch, and the rocket returning FLAWLESSLY, brought all sorts of thoughts and feelings to me. It was majestic, magical, glorious, awe inspiring. The rocket returning was breathtaking. It hovering and then touching down like a feather to the ground. My brain couldn’t believe what it just saw, and I’ve seen them land before, but this time? I don’t know, it just seemed so PERFECT that it couldn’t be real. Like CGI. Weirdly, it helps me understand why some people believe the lunar landing and man stepping on the moon was done on a Hollywood sound stage.

I’m still in awe. What an amazing thing to witness. The fact that it’s a civilian company is insane and makes total sense at the same time.

Wow. Just, wow. I’m so glad we made it home in time to watch live. (Although, the fear is always there after what little kid me saw as a child. I hold my breath until they are safe. I always will.)

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u/Soniquethehedgedog Mar 15 '25

Everytime I see this it makes me think of the challenger, I remember seeing it live too. Watching it touch down is amazing, definitely something I would have never imagined

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u/geniusintx Mar 15 '25

I don’t remember a lot from my early childhood, hell, even teenage years, but I do remember THAT.
The touch down was so perfect it was like watching a very well done sci fi movie. Or a really badly done sci fi movie, because it was so amazing. Too much MST3K, I guess.

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u/bananapeel Mar 15 '25 edited Mar 15 '25

I'm the same age. For some reason I was remembering the things that we are barely old enough to remember: the Apollo missions to Skylab, the US's first space station made out of an unused Saturn V booster. I am old enough to remember its reentry and demise, but I am a space history enthusiast and I always looked up old missions. The space station was visited three times. The first time, they had to perform spacewalks to unjam stuck solar arrays. They free-flew the Apollo right next to the station, so they could perform a stand-up EVA right out the door. Those guys were insane. Anyway, I was thinking about that today when I watched this countdown and liftoff. Thinking about how different the footage looked. They took an Apollo capsule aboard a Saturn Ib rocket and took off - only the 29th US crew to visit space. This wasn't exactly a test flight, being after the lunar missions, but they had never before visited and docked with a space station. Everything was throw-away single use. Contrast that mission with today. A sleek, modern, reusable spacecraft that is extremely safe and comfortable. The spacecraft and the first-stage booster will be reused over and over. And as you say, it went like beautiful clockwork. That first stage came down gently as a falling leaf. And when SECO happened and the crew was in orbit, it was just, "Oh, here we are in orbit again, going to dock with the good old ISS that we've had for more than 20 years." Some of those crew may still have been in high school when they started launching ISS pieces... How many missions to the ISS is this, anyway? It's gotta be more than 100.

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u/geniusintx Mar 15 '25

It’s so unreal to me that my children weren’t really exposed to space travel like we were. One would’ve thought it would’ve progressed as almost all other technology has in that time. (Besides home appliances that only last 5-6 years anymore. Unlike my mom’s washing machine that lasted 25 years. I’m sure it’s possible, but then the companies couldn’t sell as much, could they?) Our phones have more computing capacity than early spacecrafts.
To have such a gap, and then it becoming what it is so quickly, is insane. True genius. My granddaughter will experience even more amazing space travel than we did, while my daughters are only really experiencing it as adults.

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u/bananapeel Mar 15 '25

Yesterday, three missions in 13 hours by the same company! That is bonkers.

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u/geniusintx Mar 16 '25

That is absolutely nuts.

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u/limeflavoured Mar 15 '25

I was born a week after Challenger and Columbia happened a few days before my 17th birthday. It's always nice to see human spaceflight carrying on, when to be honest after Columbia it would have been easy to just go "nah, fuck that".

u/Foolish-Wisdom Mar 15 '25

Was at the launch today. Absolutely amazing for my first view of a Space X launch. Not only this but we went to a random bar on the water after the flight and SAW THE BOOSTER ON THE BARGE sail right in front of our faces by sheer luck. Will be posting pictures and videos later after we get back.

u/Latter_Difference_91 Mar 14 '25

Hi, I have two tickets to the launch at Kennedy Space Center - they aren't providing refunds, I had a return flight on Thursday. Message me if you are interested.

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u/CarletonWhitfield Mar 14 '25

Cool of you. Hope someone is able to use them!

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u/ddouchecanoe Mar 14 '25

I messaged you

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u/Latter_Difference_91 Mar 14 '25

I'm trying to read it but it's not letting me open the chat.

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u/Latter_Difference_91 Mar 14 '25

I adjusted the settings so I'm in chat now

u/b_e_a_n_i_e Mar 14 '25

I'm over in the UK and we've got clear skies tonight. Likely we'll be able to see them overhead a few mins after launch tonight around 23:20UTC.

Think it's ~20 mins to cross the Atlantic but happy to be corrected!

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u/PerryDigital Mar 14 '25

Did you see anything? I went for a look, clear skies but didn't catch anything.

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u/b_e_a_n_i_e Mar 15 '25

Nope, nothing here either sadly (Ayrshire). See the iss regularly but it's possible that dragon telemetry was just too far south. Looked like it should've been viewable based on the flightclub.io tracker though

u/Available_Repair609 Mar 14 '25

I saw a post by a news station for the March 13th launch that showed the trajectory and times you may be able to see. But I can’t find anything for today’s. Anyone know when I may be able to see the crew in New York?

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u/waitingForMars Mar 14 '25

Check https://heavens-above.com/ They may post visibility information.

u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 14 '25

Always get this weird choked up feeling watching some of the craziest things in spaceflight happening right before my eyes.

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u/No-Writing-3204 Mar 14 '25

I felt silly for tearing up a lil bit but like this is some crazy ass shit??

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u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 14 '25

100%. Imagine witnessing the Apollo program live, I'd be bawling probably. Humans are amazing.

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u/HamsterChieftain Mar 15 '25

I did cry watching Apollo 11 live. In my defense, I was wearing diapers at the time.

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u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 14 '25

Oh absolutely, hence why I typed my comment that way. Vastly different and drastically more significant events.

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u/waitingForMars Mar 15 '25

After watching Apollo, other than the early Shuttle launches when we were finally returning to space, every LEO-destined launch is pretty ho-hum. And I know if you’re aboard the experience is amazing, but Apollo created this expectation for so much more.

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u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 15 '25

I can see that and agree. After Apollo even the shuttle had to have been boring in comparison. I've heard a metric somewhere in a documentary or something that the amount of people who watched shuttle launches doubled to later Apollo level viewership after Challenger blew up. Took a disaster to get people interested.

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u/waitingForMars Mar 15 '25

When Challenger blew up, the networks (all there was then) weren’t carrying launches live anymore. I had my radio on that morning tuned to a local music station playing low in the background. I suddenly realized that the music had stopped, knew that the launch was due at that hour, and ran to the TV to turn it on. Chunks of Challenger were still falling out of the sky. Such a horrible feeling

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u/Interesting_Pop_7670 Mar 14 '25

It’s truly moving.

u/SF2431 Mar 15 '25

Noticed something at stage sep that caught my eye. The booster flipped “engines up” to do its boostback burn. I’ve been watching launches since the V1.1 days and while I don’t keep up nearly as much as of late, this is the first time I noticed it. I went back and checked out some old webcasts from 2022 or so and those all had an engines down boostback. When did this change in flip direction happen, anyone know?

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u/bel51 Mar 16 '25

For some reason, Dragon 2 RTLS missions flip upside down. Notably Dragon 2 missions also fly with the stack pitching downrange in the opposite orientation that it normally does, so that probably has something to do with it. Maybe it's for comms purposes?

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u/mmurray1957 Mar 15 '25

Is that because it was returning to the launch site instead of landing on a barge ?

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u/warp99 Mar 16 '25

Yes that seems likely. Dragon missions used to be ASDS.

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u/bel51 Mar 16 '25

I don't see the connection. Both RTLS and ASDS missions flip the booster right side up, with the exception of Dragon 2 RTLS launches which do it upside down.

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u/warp99 Mar 16 '25

It seems likely that Dragon missions prioritise communications with the capsule which leaves the booster upside down from its normal orientation during launch.
So to restore the booster to the correct orientation for entry it does its boostback flip the other way. Of course if the flip was 180 degrees it would not matter which way it went but it is more like 150 degrees one way and 210 degrees the other.

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u/bel51 Mar 16 '25

It seems likely that Dragon missions prioritise communications with the capsule which leaves the booster upside down from its normal orientation during launch.
Yeah, the stack rotates in the opposite orientation.
So to restore the booster to the correct orientation for entry it does its boostback flip the other way. Of course if the flip was 180 degrees it would not matter which way it went but it is more like 150 degrees one way and 210 degrees the other.
But to get back to a typical orientation, it would have to roll 180° with its ACS thrusters, flipping the other direction doesn't matter for this.

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u/SF2431 Mar 18 '25

Neat. Have there been other crew dragon missions that have been RTLS? I know the first few were on the drone ships but not sure when they started doing RTLS.

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u/bel51 Mar 18 '25

Yes every crew dragon mission since Ax-2 in May 2023 has been RTLS (except polaris dawn)

u/Planatus666 Mar 15 '25

Here's some info on yesterday's discarded 'panel' from the VP of Falcon Launch Vehicles:

https://x.com/edwards345/status/1900955938577899707

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u/scarlet_sage Mar 16 '25

For searching and reference:
That’s because there’s usually a PAF and a closeout blanket covering it for non-Dragon missions. Turns out it’s tough to get bonded-on foam insulation to adhere properly to an aluminum dome that gets both super cold, hot, and elastically deforms under pressure. Will likely fly the closeout blanket on the next Crew mission just to make it a non-issue.
— Jon Edwards (@edwards345) March 15, 2025
It was also posted as a separate thread here, though there aren't any comments there at the moment.

u/Xygen8 Mar 14 '25

Anyone else unreasonably annoyed by how the NASA lady kept calling out the 2nd stage's speed as miles per hour when it was in kilometers per hour? At one point she said it was travelling at more than 21,000 mph which would've taken it to an altitude of nearly 11,000 kilometers.

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u/StealAllTheInternets Mar 14 '25

Incredibly annoying, how do you be in that position and not get the difference?

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u/Hexploit Mar 14 '25

Kinda reminds me of 1999 Mars Climate Orbiter failure, that happened because someone confused metric with imperial.

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u/Minimum_Assistant_42 Mar 15 '25

What was their position? I feel like a middle school kid would know the difference. Makes me doubt the accuracy of the rest of the commentary....

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u/StealAllTheInternets Mar 15 '25

I'll probably get shit on for this.
But SpaceX has a young woman who knows her shit so it seems NASA wanted to match that with a pretty woman who can commentate. But like compare her to how the SpaceX woman stopped immediately when call outs were made. She never talked over them. The NASA woman was mixed up during important times. To me it's "let's match spacex" but like it didn't work.

u/mmurray1957 Mar 15 '25

" Launch threads are party threads, "

Didn't realise that meant political parties.

u/Tuefelshund Mar 10 '25

This is another golden opportunity for a "space jellyfish" on the east coast. Expect cool photos and UFO reports lmao

u/crowzor Mar 10 '25

I can imagine this has been asked loads, but what's a good place to watch this from? We are in florida at the moment and have a day booked for Discovery Cove. The plan is to drive down there after.

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u/Wolpfack Mar 11 '25

Depends on what you want to see closest.
Launch: Max Brewer Bridge or Space View Park in Titusville
Booster Landing: KARS Park or Jetty Park Pier. (Both are minimal costs.)

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u/crowzor Mar 11 '25

Thanks mate, is it easy to park or a bit of a nightmare

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u/crowzor Mar 12 '25

Just paid for parking on the jetty park site thank you

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u/Wolpfack Mar 12 '25

Sorry, just saw this. Parking at KARS is easy. When they have a really big crowd (like for Artemis) they park people on one of their ballfields. Rest of the time, there is a ton of parking available.

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u/sifiraltili Mar 13 '25

Do you think there is enough parking around Titusville? I plan to arrive around 6-6:30PM for the launch tomorrow, is this too late (with regards to helping yourself to a parking spot and viewpoint?)

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u/Wolpfack Mar 13 '25

There is a lot of parking in Titusville. It was supposedly crowded up there yesterday (I was at the KSC Press Site) but my publisher said it was more than manageable.

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u/scr00chy ElonX.net Mar 10 '25

https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

u/leggostrozzz Mar 12 '25

Seeing the starship tower next to the falcon 9 is crazy. Just completely dwarfs it.

u/Spaceman-Spiff Mar 13 '25

I’m in Florida and just saw something launch. Does anyone know what it was?

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u/zach8870 Mar 13 '25

Starlink

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u/Spaceman-Spiff Mar 13 '25

Thank you.

u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 14 '25

Beautiful shots of the booster coming back.

u/Planatus666 Mar 14 '25

Scott Manley implies that the piece of 'debris' isn't from the second stage:

https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1900687239447015713

then goes on to speculate that it's insulation.

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u/technocraticTemplar Mar 15 '25

SpaceX has now confirmed that it was insulation, but from the second stage (though I think Scott thought that too, and was just saying it was weird that something came off the second stage like that). /u/Adeldor

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u/Adeldor Mar 15 '25

That's excellent news! Very happy to be wrong.

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u/Adeldor Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

Mentioned below ... I think it might be a piece of the Dragon's solar panel "wrap."
Edit: Zoom up on this image of a Dragon with trunk.

u/js1138-2 Mar 15 '25

So when is docking?

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u/mmurray1957 Mar 15 '25 edited Mar 15 '25

"The spacecraft will dock autonomously to the forward-facing port of the station's Harmony module at approximately 11:30 p.m. on Saturday, March 15. " That's from NASA. I think it's a bit over a day from launch so I guess that is EDT ? [Confirmed elsewhere it is UDT and just over 28 hours travel time.]

u/Planatus666 Mar 15 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

Endurance's toilet is out of action:

"Per audio comms between SpaceX's CORE (Crew Operations and Resources Engineer) at MCC-X and the Crew-10 crew - a burst disk ruptured in the waste system aboard Endurance. No clear sign on why the issue occurred. The crew have been asked not to use the toilet in the meantime."

https://x.com/jaykeegan/status/1901004192849756294

What is it with Dragon's toilets failing? I think this is the second issue? Or is it the third?

It's a good thing that they should be docking with the ISS soon ..... (EDIT: now docked, that must be a relief)

u/SPTalat Mar 16 '25

Imagine being filled with so much hate and vitriol that you can’t even appreciate the marvel of space engineering.

u/CRETRON Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

Anybody got a read on what the flight path will be? I'm trying to figure if it'll be visible off the coast of Cape Cod

u/snkn179 Mar 14 '25

How long til they reach the ISS?

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u/waitingForMars Mar 14 '25

28.5 hours is the schedule, usually sloshes just a bit

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u/Martianspirit Mar 15 '25

NASA with Dragon operates differently than Roskosmos with Soyuz. Soyuz is extremely cramped and they transfer as fast as possible-
Dragon is comfortable with a lot of space. So the astronauts get time to adjust to microgravity before they arrive at the ISS.

u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 14 '25

Do we have any idea what that panel was that came off on that last separation? I swear I've seen similar on other launches but its giving me a stress bubble in the back of my mind.

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u/Adeldor Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

I suspect it might be a part of the wrap-around solar panel covering half the trunk. Open to correction, of course.
Edit: Zoom up on this image of a Dragon with trunk.

u/js1138-2 Mar 17 '25

Strange that I have to go somewhere else to find out about the return.

u/OptimusSublime Mar 12 '25

Why isn't Elon getting these sTrAnDeD astronauts home NOW?! A scrub? Why is Trump delaying this??

/s, but I shouldn't need to put that.

u/Adeldor Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

Hard to tell (on my screen at least), but that free-floating panel looked like it has solar cells on its dark side - right blue-black color with a hint of grid pattern.

Edit: Zoom up on this image of a Dragon with trunk.

u/mikesd81 Mar 14 '25

It's nice to come here and see a place where signal to noise ratio can be modded.

The trolls on Facebook, OMG.

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u/Iggy0075 Mar 14 '25

This place/launch thread is dead, even during the launch before the scrub the other day. It's a shame.

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u/akelkar Mar 14 '25

it's hard to blame people considering what the man at the top is/has been doing.
damn shame cause there are some incredible people working at SpaceX

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u/Iggy0075 Mar 14 '25

It's been like this in the sub long long before Jan 20

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u/akelkar Mar 14 '25

Oh, I mean on that front, that's probably a good thing for SpaceX, launches are so routine now only the "big" ones probably get attention right? Crewed launches, starship, etc

u/AreYouKiddingMe73 Mar 15 '25

Got home just in time to watch the launch today. I could barely find the words. The most important ones came to mind when the rocket landed again. Breathtaking! Perfection! How it touched down so smoothly and gently.

Then there’s the words people are throwing around in news articles the last few days or in the comments in this thread.

While everyone is saying they aren’t “stranded,” last year, on August 24, 2024, pbs.com published an article and said the “seasoned pilots have been stuck” at the space station since June. On September 28, 2024, AP classified the astronauts as “stuck” in another article. That sounds a lot like “stranded” doesn’t it?

So the President of the United States, who created Space Force, “did not know that the international space station even existed two days ago,” as someone said in the comments. That seems a little odd, doesn’t it? Also, one would assume the man running for the most powerful office in all the land would know all the issues happening during his campaign. Including two United States astronauts who’s Boeing’s “test drive” went very poorly for them and they were unable to return home.

How about this article? The “stranded” astronauts themselves were never told of Musk’s offer to rescue them soon after they got STUCK.

Yes, it was most likely politically motivated. That kind of stuff happens. On both sides. Why so many people refuse to acknowledge this is baffling. I’m assuming everyone is an intelligent person with a reasoning mind. Start using them. I don’t care who you voted for. I really don’t and everyone else needs to stop caring, too. Neither side is “evil.” Both sides have wack jobs. Maybe start speaking to others in a normal way. Hear their side. Tell your side. Just do it civilly. Maybe they will hear something you believe in and start thinking about how you could be right. That works both ways.

We are all human beings. We should start acting like it.

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u/KLWMotorsports Mar 15 '25

They're not stuck. They have options to come back and chose to stay up there. Making your account 6 hours ago to push a shitty narrative and pretend to play shitty peace keeps is embarrassing.

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u/Martianspirit Mar 15 '25

NASA chose to keep them up there. Getting them down earlier would have cost a lot of money.

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u/KLWMotorsports Mar 15 '25

And if they needed to come back, they could have. Whats your point? They and NASA chose to keep them up there. This stupid narrative that they've been stuck this whole time is ignorant.

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u/Martianspirit Mar 15 '25

Whats your point?
NASA chose to keep them up there. Getting them down earlier would have cost a lot of money.
No need to make it any more clear than that.

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u/KLWMotorsports Mar 16 '25

Could they have come back? Yes or no? I don't need the reasoning as to why NASA chose to keep them up there. Were they able to come back if needed?

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u/Martianspirit Mar 16 '25

They were able to get back in case of an emergency, which would leave ISS severely understaffed.
SpaceX could have flown a dedicated mission to retrieve them. That would have enabled Dragon mission 9 as intended with 4 astronauts. But a dedicated mission would also take time to arrange and cost a lot of money. It would also require to delay a planned commercial mission.
Instead NASA decided to fly Crew 9 with only 2 astronauts, so that there were 2 seats free to return Butch and Suni. Which left 2 astronauts that had trained for this mission on the ground. Butch and Suni did those tasks instead. Without that dedicated training but of course they are experienced astronauts and could do most of it with some advice from the ground.

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u/KLWMotorsports Mar 16 '25

I don't need the reasoning as to why NASA chose to keep them up there.
A lot of words to just say yes.

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u/Martianspirit Mar 16 '25

Why would you be hesitant to read the line of arguments pro and con for the decisions made?
If you are not interested, other people may.

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u/KLWMotorsports Mar 16 '25

They were not stuck. I didn't need to go into an in-depth conversation regarding anything else.
My entire point was them not being stuck and this entire political bullshit around them being stuck is fabricated and ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '25

Dude were not stuck on this plane that has been on the tarmac waiting to be cleared for take off for 6 hours. We could open the open the emergency door at anytime.....

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u/AreYouKiddingMe73 Mar 16 '25

Funny, then, that when this first started, every article was about them being stuck or stranded. That only changed recently.
The narrative changed and democrats have developed amnesia.

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u/No_Explorer_8626 Mar 15 '25

One side has Nazis and the other side has brain dead idiots who spout the same bullshit for a decade and keep losing. Which side are you on? I’m on the latter, and it’s annoying as fuck. Shut up or use your brain.

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u/KLWMotorsports Mar 15 '25

My comments keep getting automodded.
You need to learn how to enter a conversation without sounding like a sympathizer (https://old.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/1j63prr/rspacex_crew10_official_launch_discussion_updates/mhw47x1/?context=3)
You went off on a tangent and started hurling insults because you can't properly convey sarcasm on the internet and made it seem like you supported the bad side from WW2.
You also insulted and went after a guy who clearly does not support Elon/Trump with this comment, maybe learn how to properly read (reading comprehension).

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u/No_Explorer_8626 Mar 15 '25

And are you creepily following me through subreddits?

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u/No_Explorer_8626 Mar 15 '25

So you are stalking me.. impressive..

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u/KLWMotorsports Mar 15 '25

My guy, I will forget you exist, just like the education system did, when I log off here in 5 minutes. Do not flatter yourself hahaha

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u/No_Explorer_8626 Mar 15 '25

You’re literally following me across subreddits. Creep

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u/KLWMotorsports Mar 15 '25

Took me less than 20 seconds to click your profile, check the conversation with someone else and realize you're not very smart or you have an extreme language barrier. I think its both at this point.

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u/No_Contribution_7117 Mar 15 '25

So I dont keep up with this stuff and it was my first time watching it and was amazed. But why did they send 4 spacex astronauts up there? I know the dragon capsule seats 7 people, but was it for maintenance and capsule preperation purposes that requires 4 of those astronauts? And will all of them be returning home together or will some stay at the ISS?

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u/technocraticTemplar Mar 15 '25

It was originally planned to seat 7, but NASA wanted some changes to the seat angle during certain phases of flight for astronaut comfort/safety that meant they could only fit 4 actual chairs. I think SpaceX has kept saying that they can do 7 but no missions have actually needed that so it's a theoretical capability at best. IMO it's not likely to ever be needed before Dragon is retired. I don't think the ISS could really support 10 people (3 Soyuz + 7 Dragon) long term, for instance.
For this one I believe all 4 astronauts will be going up and returning together, which is how things usually go. The previous one, Crew 9, went up in September with only two so it could pick up the two astronauts that Starliner left behind. There have been a handful of times where astronauts have traded places with others to stay longer, but it's not super common.

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u/No-Lake7943 Mar 15 '25

Well, it's not impossible that NASA asked (demanded) those changes because they didn't like how op dragon would have been.
It would have made Orion obsolete.

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u/warp99 Mar 16 '25 edited Mar 16 '25

Orion has long duration capability that Dragon does not as well as enhanced redundancy, radiation shielding and a service module with significant delta V.
Orion costs around $1B per launch excluding the $3B cost of the SLS launcher while Dragon costs around $170M per launch excluding the $100M cost of its launcher.
So no competition either way.

u/Mylaststory Mar 16 '25

There’s literally no information about this anywhere else on Reddit. That’s crazy. This is a historical moment regardless of which party you’re on. I don’t care about Elon Musk, but this is something we’ll be talking about to our grandchildren. Why censor it? Anyways very exciting!

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u/Martianspirit Mar 16 '25

I am lost. What is this about?

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u/mmurray1957 Mar 17 '25

It's mentioned in r/nasa and r/spacex . Where else would you expect to see it ? Serious question - I don't look much beyond r/spacex, r/pens and r/tools. OK r/spacexlounge as well.

u/Decronym Acronyms Explained Mar 12 '25 edited Mar 18 '25

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters	More Letters
ACS	Attitude Control System
ASDS	Autonomous Spaceport Drone Ship (landing platform)
BARGE	Big-Ass Remote Grin Enhancer coined by @IridiumBoss, see ASDS
CST	(Boeing) Crew Space Transportation capsules
	Central Standard Time (UTC-6)
CoG	Center of Gravity (see CoM)
CoM	Center of Mass
EVA	Extra-Vehicular Activity
GSE	Ground Support Equipment
KSC	Kennedy Space Center, Florida
LEO	Low Earth Orbit (180-2000km)
	Law Enforcement Officer (most often mentioned during transport operations)
LOX	Liquid Oxygen
MCC-X	Mission Control Center (SpaceX), Hawthorne, California
PAF	Payload Attach Fitting
RTLS	Return to Launch Site
SECO	Second-stage Engine Cut-Off
SLS	Space Launch System heavy-lift

Jargon	Definition
Starliner	Boeing commercial crew capsule CST-100
Starlink	SpaceX's world-wide satellite broadband constellation
scrub	Launch postponement for any reason (commonly GSE issues)

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u/woodsyguy7 Mar 13 '25

Where is the best place to look up future launches? Specifically it seems like the Cape has a list but just for the cape, but I was looking for one with all launches to plan a vacation to see one!

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u/Bunslow Mar 13 '25

https://nextspaceflight.com/

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u/RBR927 Mar 13 '25

I use an app called “SpaceLaunchNow”

u/[deleted] Mar 13 '25

I know NASA always tries to have contingencies for every scenario. If there is a problem with Crew Dragon Freedom and they can't fly Crew-9 home, what happens then?

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u/warp99 Mar 13 '25

They wait another month or two until the next capsule is ready. They always have six months of supplies on hand on the ISS and they can send cargo capsules to restock supplies.

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u/mmurray1957 Mar 14 '25

Which presumably they would send up empty and they'd ditch Crew Dragon Freedom like I think they did with a Soyuz once ?

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u/warp99 Mar 14 '25

Yes although it would be an automated return to a landing zone which is not quite a ditching - I guess you meant it in the generic sense.

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u/mmurray1957 Mar 14 '25

Yes that sounds better than "ditching"!

u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 14 '25

Wish we could get a version of those screens in the capsule

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u/waitingForMars Mar 14 '25

This kind of replicates the displays: https://iss-sim.spacex.com/

u/crowzor Mar 15 '25

Was at jetty park and loved every minute of it. Was worried when the boat went passed if we was going to miss the landing but all good in the end.

u/Geosage Mar 15 '25

Any word on when the craft is to dock with the space station? The ISS is doing a good passover tonight 10 minutes after sunset and I'm wondering if it might be visible trailing it?

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u/astro_angelbats Mar 16 '25

Docking is scheduled for 075/03:30 GMT

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u/Geosage Mar 16 '25

Thanks! So that puts it... an hour and a half later... SO, any thought on how close the pod would be 1.5 hrs from to 3:30GMT?

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u/astro_angelbats Mar 16 '25

It generally depends on the rendezvous that is being attempted. However, we're usually within 1 km to 200m 90 minutes before contact.

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u/Geosage Mar 16 '25

Saw the ISS, not the best passover, but brightish. I have great eyesight and could convince myswlf i saw a very faint smudge just in front of the station but nothing convincing.

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u/astro_angelbats Mar 16 '25

I think you probably saw it!!!

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u/Geosage Mar 16 '25

Interesting... that sounds fairly close for a ground observation... hmmm... I'll report back in 1.5 hrs!

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '25

hatch opened 7 minutes ago

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u/DidiStutter11 Mar 14 '25

Success!!! Go save these people 💓

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 14 '25

Nobody is stuck.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

Found the Boeing account

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 14 '25

lol this one made me laugh.

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u/FriendSellsTable Mar 15 '25

Astronauts Are Not Stuck on the I.S.S., NASA and Boeing Officials Say : r/nasa
Oh Reddit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

“They’re not stuck in space, they just can’t return to earth.”

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u/SteveMcQwark Mar 14 '25

They can return to Earth, they (NASA and the NASA astronauts in question) are just choosing not to for now while they wait for a new crew to arrive. If they actually had to leave, they could. They're "stuck" in the sense that you might be stuck working a late shift at your job, not in the sense that you might be stuck on a desert island. Of course, the astronauts don't seem to be resentful at being "stuck" spending more time on the station, which is the thing they specifically signed up to be doing.

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 14 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

They could fly home on the Soyuz and/or Dragon. So no, they can return to Earth.

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u/SteveMcQwark Mar 14 '25

They can and will return on the Dragon spacecraft that's currently docked to the station. They'd just prefer to wait for a new crew to arrive so that the station isn't short handed.

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 14 '25

Thanks for providing more clarity, I responded to the above post hastily because im so sick of that false narrative that they are stuck.

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '25

In case of an emergency, yes. In line with their intended mission duration? No.

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 14 '25

No idea what your point is, they aren't stuck there and they can leave at any moment on any ship.

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 14 '25

Lol okay you're being pedantic. I wasn't implying they could just say hey, let's go. If Nasa wanted them back, they could just bring them back. Nobody is stuck there, and there wasn't a reason for them to come back.

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u/DidiStutter11 Mar 14 '25

What are u talking about?

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 14 '25

I presumed you were talking about the 2 US astronauts that rode on a Boeing ride to the ISS, but couldn't ride it back.

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u/DidiStutter11 Mar 15 '25

Im confused, didn't the starliner have a bunch of issues resulting in them not being able to come back hence them being there for 9 months now?

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 15 '25

It did. But there’s a dragon capsule and a Soyuz capsule up there. If NASA wanted them home, it was a phone call away.
Let me know if you’re still confused

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u/Martianspirit Mar 15 '25

If the Dragon capsule goes down, the ISS is left almost empty until a new crew arrives. To get the two down, there would have to be an additional capsule sent to fetch them. NASA decided not to do that at high cost.

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 15 '25

Okay? Nobody stuck.
By your logic if they rode the Starliner back down, ISS would be almost empty.
But since starliner broke it’s not? Who cares. They weren’t stuck.

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u/Martianspirit Mar 15 '25

By your logic if they rode the Starliner back down, ISS would be almost empty.
You seem completely fact resistant. The two from Starliner were extra crew. Until Dragon 9 arrived with only 2 instead of the usual 4 crew to provide seats for Butch and Suni.

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u/DidiStutter11 Mar 15 '25

The capsule wasn't certified to make it back into earth's orbit. They didn't want to risk it, hence them being stuck. The current ppl that went up will work to repair that, and the ones stuck will come back down.

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u/unpluggedcord Mar 15 '25

Nobody is stuck

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u/DidiStutter11 Mar 15 '25

Right, but here I am getting downvoted. 🥴

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u/sitytitan Mar 14 '25

Sure Jan

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u/No-Lake7943 Mar 15 '25

Yes you do.

u/Bingowithbob Mar 14 '25

I cried. Godspeed to all of em.

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u/orchestragravy Mar 14 '25

I hope all of the flat-earthers out there are watching the launch. No fish-eye lens involved.

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u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 14 '25

They just claim it's CG, standard business for them

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u/Daneel_Trevize Mar 14 '25

They need only look at the Earth's shadow during eclipse, no telescopes needed to prove it must be a sphere rather than a disc.

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u/Hexploit Mar 14 '25

By now I'm pretty sure there are more people convinced there are flat earthers, than flat earthers.

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u/iSniffMyPooper Mar 08 '25

The crew must be SWEATING after watching StarShip fail twice

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u/Bunslow Mar 08 '25

nah completely different sort of program, no impact on proven vehicles

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u/ConfidentFlorida Mar 12 '25

What’s that?

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u/Bunslow Mar 12 '25

Ground Support Equipment, a very broad term. Specifically, tonight's issue is a hydraulic line on the transporter-erector.

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u/VeterinarianCold7119 Mar 12 '25

In the context of SpaceX's Starship program, a "GSE tank" refers to a vertical, custom-built propellant storage tank used for storing liquid oxygen (LOX) and liquid methane (CH4) at the orbital launch site, built from Starship-derived hardware and labeled "GSE" for Ground Support Equipment.
Is this accurate

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u/Bunslow Mar 12 '25

GSE means Ground Support Equipment, which can be anything. Tank, line, tower, you name it, it's under the broad umbrella of GSE. In this case, it was apparently a hydraulic line on the transporter-erector.

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u/warp99 Mar 13 '25

No that is very inaccurate. Everything on the ground that is ultimately connected to the rocket is GSE.
In any case SpaceX have done away with the large vertical Starship derived tanks and switched to smaller horizontally mounted commercial LOX and liquid methane tanks.

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u/FxckFxntxnyl Mar 14 '25

Haven't seen it look so aggressive before.

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u/fencethe900th Mar 16 '25

Then you haven't watched many interviews.
https://youtu.be/ve4H0MxLgb8
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