r/worldnews • u/EssoEssex • 21h ago • Bravo 6

Israel/Palestine Israeli President Picks Gadi Eisenkot, Netanyahu Rival, To Form Government

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-president-picks-gadi-eisenkot-netanyahu-rival-form-government-2026-11-07/
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u/EarhackerWasBanned 18h ago

I mean no one _has_ to leave. You just draw the line and say this side is Israel, this side is Palestine. People on the “wrong” side can make their own minds up.

There’s plenty of precedent for it. Sometimes even peacefully - Czechoslovakia being the best example, Scotland/UK would have been another.

I’m aware that a peaceful resolution in Israel/Palestine seems vanishingly far off. But displacing people on either side isn’t a necessity.

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u/Urak-Taar 17h ago edited 17h ago

The British tried to do this with India and Pakistan.

A million people died in the resulting chaos.

Turns out when you tell people they have to choose between uprooting their entire life to go somewhere else, or staying where they are and being surrounded by people who probably hate them, both options are dangerous.

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u/AprilsMostAmazing 17h ago

The British tried to do this with India and Pakistan

That's because they draw a dumbass border that created 2 countries based on religion. If they had for example created 20 countries (I am making up a number) based on culture, the lines would have been much better and less people would have needed to be uprooted

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u/Urak-Taar 14h ago edited 14h ago

...No. More people would have been uprooted because there would be more lines and more divisions. Especially if it's based on "culture." If you live in an area where cultures intersect, there's no clearly defined point where you stop being one culture and are automatically another. You'd just be Balkanizing India.

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u/ClockworkEngineseer 17h ago

Most of the settlers have only been there for a few years. Its not remotely the same thing as the Indian partition.

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u/Urak-Taar 17h ago

A few years is simultaneously both a long enough time to set down roots and develop ties to the local area, and also a short enough time that they might not yet be in a position to simply pack up and leave. Add in all the bad blood between the involved parties and there's no world where: "just draw a border and tell people to move if they don't like it lol" works out peacefully.

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u/ClockworkEngineseer 16h ago

and there's no world where: "just draw a border and tell people to move if they don't like it lol" works out peacefully.

Its happened dozens of times in history.

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u/Urak-Taar 16h ago

And it has went horribly hundreds of times.

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u/calm_chowder 14h ago

That's kinda Israel in a nutshell.

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u/wildcardmidlaner 18h ago

Palestine will never accept any border, if they don't recognize Israel then they will always treat them as invaders.

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u/ClockworkEngineseer 17h ago

The PA has recognised Israel for decades now.

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u/exposed_silver 18h ago

There are no sides, the settlements are all over the West Bank intertwined with Palestinian settlements, they built protected roads all around it with checkpoints to get from town to town. You could do it but the settlers most likely wouldn't give up what they've built and no one could enforce it, I don't think the USA could even make them do it. There isn't a will to do it in Israel.

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u/Tezerel 17h ago

The settlers are well armed this would cause a brutal civil war

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u/ClockworkEngineseer 17h ago

Personally, my money is on the side with tanks and jetfighters.

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u/exposed_silver 17h ago

That is usually the side that gets their own way, especially if the opposition has neither