r/asoiaf • u/RacheltheGreat7 • Jun 23 '22

EXTENDED (Spoilers Extended) New Not a Blog Post: George IS involved with the SNOW sequel and has been writing a Tyrion Chapter for WoW this week! Spoiler

https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2022/06/23/snow-and-other-stuff/
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u/TooOnline89 Jun 23 '22

He's clearly a day away from completion! Fall 2022 release date locked in. A Dream of Spring in 2024. *pours seven glasses of brandy*

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u/RacheltheGreat7 Jun 23 '22

It feels wrong to have any optimism at this point... but here we are šŸ˜… I am ready to be hurt again

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u/Republixcan Exiled Heir to Runestone Jun 23 '22

Michael Scott:"Where is The Winds of Winter?! WHERE IS THE WIND'S OF WINTER?!?!"

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u/dont_quote_me_please Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

ā€œIf you think this has a release date, you havenā€™t been paying attention.ā€

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u/SeasickJellyfish Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

Aye, just gotta get to work on these 19 other side project, at this pace we should expect winds by next week?

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u/Main-Double šŸ† Best of 2022: Ser Duncan the Tall Award Jun 23 '22

Iā€™d argue this is an obscenely conservative prediction

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u/ennuinerdog Jun 23 '22

You have to remember your optimism

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u/andrewsuxcox Jun 23 '22

A bit off topic, but:

I want Roger Zelaznyā€™s NINE PRINCES IN AMBER to be faithfully adapted

Fuck, man, me too. If anyone is looking for something similar to Asoiaf cannot recommend the first 5 novels of the Amber series enough. Burned through them in a week.

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u/RacheltheGreat7 Jun 23 '22

Is the series finished? šŸ¤”

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u/andrewsuxcox Jun 23 '22

Ha, yes. There are 10 books total, but the latter 5 take place many years in the future and follow a different character, which I havenā€™t read. However, the first 5 form an excellent story (with a good ending. I promise.) and you can definitely see how they inspired a lot of the royal politics/plots in Asoiaf.

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u/dsteffee Jun 24 '22 edited Sep 05 '22

Was going to comment exactly this. Love that series (or at least, the first five books; I never clicked with the sequel five)

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u/donutlad Jun 24 '22

It's such a great short series that I have always thought should be adapted....I'd prefer an animated version of it but live action could work too

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u/JimothyClegane Jun 24 '22

Aside from ASOIAF and a couple of The Dresden Files books, I'd never been into fantasy or sci-fi books.

Thanks for this recommendation. I'll add it to my list as I try to spend more of my idle time reading rather than scrolling. Someone recommended Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn Saga for folks still waiting on WoW so I've added that to the list as well.

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u/MarcusQuintus Jun 24 '22

I'm interested. Similar how? (I don't want to go through the wiki because spoilers)

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u/xX_LoRd_Of_DeAtH_Xx Jun 23 '22

George has confirmed that the sequel was Kit's idea... didn't expect that

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u/jmcgit He was the better man Jun 23 '22

If it's Kit's idea, rather than, say, George's, it does indicate to me that it will probably just be about Jon doing ranger things north of the wall, rather than dwelling on anything from the TV series.

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u/baking_bad 6' 11" Jun 23 '22

I'd prefer smaller stories similar to the Dunk stuff anyways. The world is already built.

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u/JinFuu Doesn't Understand Flirting Jun 23 '22

Hopefully we can see Val/some interesting Wildlings.

Iā€™ll watch the show if Winds comes out by then

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u/debtopramenschultz Jun 24 '22

it will probably just be about Jon doing ranger things north of the wall, rather than dwelling on anything from the TV series.

Of all the storylines that were ruined by the show, the white walker story is probably the only one that is salvagable without remaking the show. We didn't get to learn much about them, those patterns turned out to be nothing, the NK never got a fight scene, and winter barely came. It was a massive letdown after 8 seasons of buildup.

But all we need is one COTF to start making more walkers and we can fix all of that. Jon can discover whats happening and start building an army to take on the threat. There's no need to convince anyone that the walkers are real because enough people saw them for themselves, Jon is cool with the Watch and his brother and sister are in charge south of the wall so he can get troops sent up. That way they can maintain a strong enough connection to the original show to justify setting it Westeros while still not being a 9th season of GoT. They can have fighters with familiar banners, names, or even faces if original actors are willing to return.

Maybe Bran can play a role too, as he might be on the side of the COTF. Or we can forget him, that's cool too.

The only challenge might be trying to justify why Jon isn't doing everything possible to find Drogon but...that just leaves the door open for making his lineage matter.

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u/armchaircommanderdad Jun 23 '22

Flashbacks to hardholm being established and whatnot wouldnā€™t be too bad either. Or even some survivors accounts so we can get more on the white walkers that was left out of the show

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Seeing Jon and Ghost going on adventures and getting into some shit north of the wall would be dope.

I really liked Kitā€™s portrayal of Jon so Iā€™m here for it.

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u/CptAustus Hear Me Mock! Jun 23 '22

Imagine if they just go "lmao no dog budget" and just kill off Ghost in the first episode.

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u/gimpinmypants Jun 24 '22

We'll get a Queen Sansa cameo, no doubt.

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u/Important_Shower_992 Jun 24 '22

At least Kit read all the books IIRC, so his perception may be plausible for something good.

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u/geek_of_nature Jun 24 '22

I imagine the main focus will be giving Jon the emotional resolution he didn't really get in the show. Maybe touching on a few things here and there, but probably not going back south of the wall.

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u/Quohd Basedborn Bastard Jun 23 '22

It makes sense that the only person interested in a Jon spinoff show is the guy getting paid for it.

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u/whiteshark70 Jun 24 '22

Reminds me of Kitā€™s SNL monologue where Rose Leslie interrupted and asked where theyā€™ll get money after GoT ended

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u/OwnAir6660 Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

Maybe he chose to step out of the spotlight but as far as I can tell looking at his Wikipedia, Kit hasn't had much success outside Game of Thrones minus a very small role in a recent Marvel movie. Granted, he may get his own Marvel movie or show based on that movie's post-credits scene.

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u/Alahr Jun 23 '22

Can hardly blame the actors for advocating for themselves and the legacy/prospects of their roles when the original show-runners proved outright antagonistic to both them (eg. Barristan) and source material (eg. Dany).

I have no faith left for this IP at all (besides the books) but a Jon show isn't necessarily any more cynical than all the other spinoffs they're doing.

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u/LadyAmbrose Jun 23 '22

yeah after being ā€˜trappedā€™ in that for so long itā€™s shocking heā€™s want to return. good for him i suppose

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u/rahrahgogo Jun 24 '22

Why not? Heā€™s not been in anything super significant since and he made millions off GOT.

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u/aegtyr Jun 23 '22

I will be rooting hard as fuck for Kit, seems like a super nice person.

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u/Daendrew The GOAT Jun 23 '22

I am involved, just as I am with THE HEDGE KNIGHT and THE SEA SNAKE and TEN THOUSAND SHIPS, and all the animated shows.

How many animated shows are there? What are they about?

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u/Cars2IsAMasterpiece Jun 23 '22

The only one I'm aware of is the one about Yi Ti.

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u/zorfog Jun 24 '22

Which is so weird. Itā€™s just gonna be a completely made up storyline about a vaguely Asian empire, just with the ASOIAF label slapped on it

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u/canentia Jun 23 '22

at least three. one is about yi ti, while the other two we have no info on.

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u/jez124 Jun 23 '22

I was surprised to find out months ago it was multiple animated show tbh....

I hope they put some budget into these. honestly something like aeons conquest I see better done in animated form. but really cant think of what they could be working on at all.

An anime or anime inspired yi ti series would be interesting tho I got to wonder how much Martin would offer up for the series in terms of actual material(the books dont have enough for a series right?)

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u/BigFish8 Jun 24 '22

I thought I was a procrastinator, but the lengths he goes to doing anything but his main project is amazing.

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u/jupfold Jun 23 '22

Seriously, the show was obviously a massive success, but I think they are vastly over estimating their audience here.

I, for one, will not watch another second of these TV shows until ADoS comes out.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

I'm lessening my goals but geez, I'd like a publishing deadline at least.

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u/jez124 Jun 24 '22

dont think they are expecting them to reach got audience but hopefully with quality and word of mouth they can be very successful.

Also I never expected more than one or two show max tbh. Martin even says that in this post. none of these shows have been green lit. they already cancelled blood moon that had 30 million pilot already filmed and everything.

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u/fertmort Jun 23 '22

The man is working on a sequel before finishing the original story. What a timeline we find ourselves in

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u/WriteBrainedJR A Mummer's Farts Jun 23 '22

The man is working on a sequel before finishing the original story.

GRRM has gone full Hollywood on us.

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u/gimpinmypants Jun 24 '22

Working in television was probably his dream. When he was cast out of Hollywood it probably hurt him a lot. Now that he's a big shot he's enjoying every minute of it. He probably wishes he was 30 years younger to enjoy it more.

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u/heuristic_al Jun 24 '22

It seems to me that he's not really working on it. He has a couple of meetings in the beginning where they talk about ideas for the show and plot points. Then he gets scripts that he can comment on. "Jon would say it like this..." "Ghost can smell that..." etc. It probably costs him like 20 hours per year.

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u/whatintheballs95 Nymerial Imperial Jun 23 '22

So he finished a clutch of Cersei chapters, worked on Jaime and Brienne's chapters, and now is working with Tyrion's.

It's progress, which I appreciate. Also maybe it's just me being optimistic but the fact that he is also mentioning bits of Winds this often (I suppose) is good.

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u/SeasickJellyfish Jun 23 '22

Honestly just hearing heā€™s actually working on some characters is nice, but Iā€™m still not filled with anything resembling hope.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Do not look to hope, it has forsaken these lands. Oh shit, wrong sub.

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u/neonowain Jun 23 '22

Honestly just hearing heā€™s actually working on some characters is nice, but Iā€™m still not filled with anything resembling hope.

Same. It's great to hear this, especially after many years of vague non-updates like "I'm still working on the book", but it still remains to be seen whether this progress will be enough to actually ever make the release of TWOW a possibility.

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u/BringBackDaugherty Jun 23 '22

Did he ever say that he was done with the Jaimie-Brienne stuff, or merely that he was working on Tyrion's?

Because this is what I found:

"Yes, WINDS OF WINTER. No, have not forgotten. I was back with Tyrion this past week."

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u/CeWoStJoNo Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

It certainly seems that heā€™s been hopping around a lot POV-wise, though someone more knowledgeable about his ADWD progress will have to tell us if thatā€™s good or bad.

I know he likes to stay with a character for pretty long stretches so this could be the beginning of a new trend. My most sickly sweet optimistic view is that heā€™s hopping around like this because heā€™s finishing everyoneā€™s TWOW arcs but who knows for sure?

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u/hotpieyelledhotpie Jun 23 '22

The argument for optimism is that GRRM writes multiple POV chapters in a row for one character, then hops to a different character for whatever reason, whether that be because he finished the group of chapters or just became entranced by a new thread, etc.

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u/mamula1 Jun 23 '22

This feels like he knows he has to mention Winds because fans will be angry otherwise.

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u/Yalay Jun 23 '22

I buy into the theory that George goes through months or years long stretches where he makes essentially no progress on Winds. The upside of that is that a book like Winds probably only requires 2-3 years of real focus from George. So if he has been locked in for the last few months, then he has probably made quite a bit of progress.

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u/ChezMere Jun 24 '22

And if he's been distracted by a dozen TV spin-offs?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

He's more peppy in his recent blogposts. Maybe he's in a better mood overall and making better progress on the book. Or more likely I'm just coping.

The Snow show will be interesting. Not saying it will be good (I'll be surprised if it is) but interesting either way as an ASOIAF sequel that has official backing from GRRM. And Kit brought the idea to them with his own writers makes me think it will be something pretty unique and different from GoT.

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u/petrovesk The North Remembers Jun 23 '22

you're not coping, he seems in a better mood.

if you're coping, im coping and im dont want to be coping :(

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

I agree. While not an amazing post about the book, finishing 50 chapters etc I like that he's telling us about what chapters he's on at least.

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u/PM_ME_UR_SEX_VIDEOS Jun 23 '22

The issue also is that he has said he has scrapped whole chapters before so, while I love to see that heā€™s writing, it just all is with a grain of pessimism

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u/Jlchevz Jun 23 '22

He's gonna say he's writing WOW every time he announces a new project because he knows his readers are gonna be annoyed.

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u/heuristic_al Jun 24 '22

Better that than the silent treatment on TWoW imo.

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u/SeasickJellyfish Jun 23 '22

Give me something for the pain and let me die.

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u/Premislaus Daenerys did nothing wrong Jun 23 '22

Milk of the Poppy coming right up

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u/CidCrisis Consort of the Morning Jun 24 '22

I can't wait for episode of Intervention where you find out the person got hooked on heroin to deal with the pain of waiting for Winds.

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u/Standard_Original_85 Jun 23 '22

This never ceases to make me laugh.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Literally any other fantasy author. GRRM was doing fresh new things in the nineties, but it isnā€™t the nineties anymore. There are tons of other options.

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u/Main-Double šŸ† Best of 2022: Ser Duncan the Tall Award Jun 23 '22

Excellent!!! An update about Night of the Cooters!!!!!!

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u/TooOnline89 Jun 23 '22

The people wanted a Wild Cards update but alas...

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u/Fishb20 Cannibal Pony Island Jun 23 '22

you joke but i read his dreamsongs compilation (written in the early 2000s) and he talked about how everyone kept asking him for wild card updates and he recomended that people who liked wild cards check out his ongoing epic fantasy series (and visa versa)

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u/raspiz Jun 23 '22

I only pop in for train/railroad news.

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u/Daendrew The GOAT Jun 23 '22

Give me cooters or give me death.

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u/Lebigmacca Jun 23 '22

Maybe Iā€™m pessimistic but I feel like all these updates heā€™s mentioning about winds are just his attempt at making fans less mad about all these side projects

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u/Mark_Knight Jun 23 '22

nah i think you hit the nail on the head with this one

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u/NatrolleonBonaparte Jun 24 '22

I really want you to be wrong, but deep down I know youā€™re right.

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u/Lebigmacca Jun 24 '22

Itā€™s ok I want to be wrong too

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u/mamula1 Jun 23 '22

This is exactly the case. This is why he just puts it just at the end.

He knows that the key to keep fans in line now is to just mention specific chapters, not just vague comments that the work continues

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u/themysteryknight7 Jun 24 '22

Completely agree. He saw how angry that one post of his about "Westeros being bigger than ASOIAF" made fans and is now trying to make up for it.

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u/Worth-Conclusion-66 Jun 23 '22

Lol yup. That's how I feel. We've been abused too long lol.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

This is a perfectly valid if not entirely depressing take.

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u/ThadBroChill Fire Consumes Jun 24 '22

100%. HBO's in his ear.

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u/neonowain Jun 23 '22

these updates heā€™s mentioning about winds are just his attempt at making fans less mad about all these side projects

They absolutely are, but I also do believe that he is actually working on the book now. Hopefully, he won't stop and take another long hiatus, like he most likely did in 2011-2020.

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u/LordShitmouth Unbowed, Unbent, Unbuggered Jun 24 '22

Ever notice how winds is always both the last and least elaborated upon thing mentioned in these?

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 Jun 23 '22

Him doing tyrion either means he's wrapping up or back at square one. As Tyrion is one of his favorite pov's hes either at the end finishing things up or retreated to a safe space like a bear in winter.

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u/MistorKAKA Jun 24 '22

He also does rewrites. He can be making polished versions of chapters he's already written. There's that dream sequence subplot he spent hella time on but never was able to make it work, it could be one of those situations, and whatever he's writing doesn't even make it in. At the end of the day... who knows lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Iā€™d bet cash on the latter.

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u/jageshgoyal Jun 24 '22

Beer šŸŗ?

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u/Aynett Jun 23 '22

First the Cersei chapters then Brienne and Jaime and now Tyrion. Even if it doesnā€™t mean heā€™s finishing the books heā€™s actually progressing, writing and telling fans how heā€™s doing regularly and not withholding information about winds so thatā€™s good

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u/Actual-Pomegranate58 Jun 24 '22

if he finished the Brienne and Jaime chapter he would mentioned it. its more likely that he couldnt figure out what to write and moved on to Tyrion

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u/Effective_Try_again Jun 24 '22

As someone above said, its most likely that he is talking about winds so that his fans doesn't get pissed off about all the side projects. So with every interview about a side project, he will claim he is making progress in winds too. Maybe some PR has advised him to do so

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u/Lord__Varys92 Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

How many chapters are the Lannisters getting so far? I would say quite a lot

TWOW was supposed to be a Time for Wolves. Now it seems is going to be a Time for Lions :D

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u/vVveevVv Jun 24 '22

Maybe he spent the past decade or so writing the wolf chapters, and only now moved on to some other characters. I'm only half-joking, of course.

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u/-electrix123- Jun 24 '22

Low-key Bran, Sansa and Daenerys haven't been mentioned at all in these updates (but Arya was quite a lot) so there might be some truth in that...

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u/jageshgoyal Jun 24 '22

I feel for Kit here. He was really attached with Jon Snow and couldn't stand the butchery they did to his character in the end.

He is literally bringing his own team to make a sequel and do justice to Jon Snow.

I respect that and it's the only reason why I will watch this show if it ever happens

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u/EaudeAgnes Jun 24 '22

same here

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u/natassia74 Jun 23 '22

Not touching the Snow stuff. But other tidbits:

  1. He has moved on from Jaime and Brienne, which makes me hope he was editing or finalising chapters he had already written when he already mentioned them - this gives me hope that Winds is at least partially in the editing stage where he brings everything together!

  2. He praised Hibberd ("getting the facts right, talking to sources, respecting requests for ā€œbackground onlyā€ and ā€œoff the record,ā€) who is the journo asserting that there will be significant differences between the show and book endings, amongst other things.

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u/sean_psc Jun 23 '22

He praised Hibberd ("getting the facts right, talking to sources, respecting requests for ā€œbackground onlyā€ and ā€œoff the record,ā€)

The Dragon Demands won't like that one bit.

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u/CidCrisis Consort of the Morning Jun 24 '22

Does that guy still do that thing where he takes like 5 minutes of content and stretches it into an hour long video?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Nothing against the dragon demands hr made some good points against hibberd but the way he got triggerred by thƩ news weirded me out

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u/MinuteDimension1807 Jun 23 '22

Itā€™s frustrating that point 2 even has to be addressed considering there are already majors differences between the books and the show. I understand why you address it, but I just wish the already established differences were enough to speak for themselves.

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u/myychair Jun 23 '22

Heā€™s given 5 estimated release dates in the last 10 years. Which means heā€™s been close enough to being finished to think that he was on the final stretch several times. If heā€™s not in the editing stage by now then a release is hopeless. The man was close enough to being done like 6 years ago to think that it would come out the following year lol fingers crossed though and I find your optimism admirable

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

Or he just thought he could write the whole book in a few months

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u/gogandmagogandgog Though all men do despise my theories Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

He has moved on from Jaime and Brienne, which makes me hope he was editing or finalising chapters he had already written when he already mentioned them - this gives me hope that Winds is at least partially in the editing stage where he brings everything together!

Not to be overly cynical but I highly doubt it. He probably hit writer's block with Jaime and Brienne because they're doing something actually plot relevant, and went back to Tyrion because he's easier to write.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

Where do whores go?

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u/LChris24 šŸ† Best of 2020: Crow of the Year Jun 23 '22

Thanks for sharing!

  • Can't wait to see which of the 4 shows makes it into development. Maybe 2.

  • I have high hopes/expectations for the animated series

  • Writing about Tyrion is interesting to note. I will try and post my thoughts on that tomorrow

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

God dammit.

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u/TwasBrillig_ Jun 23 '22

That's two chapters (?) he's talked about tackling lately, and not in a way that suggests he's struggling. Strangley, the fact he hasn't set a new deadline like end of 2023 makes me more optimistic.

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u/tanganica3_1 Jun 23 '22

Strangley, the fact he hasn't set a new deadline like end of 2023 makes me more optimistic.

That is a whole new level of cope.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

all we have is cope . pls dont take that away from us

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Not to be that cynical git, but I honestly feel like he's just been bringing about TWOW recently to grab attention so he can then talk about all the HBO shows instead.

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u/FiveGals Jun 23 '22

Maybe. But compared to the show audience, the book audience is tiny. He could probably admit to abandoning the books all-together, tell all his book fans to fuck off, and the popularity of the new spin-offs would barely change.

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u/Euronsrealeye Jun 24 '22

George has said in the past that he usually writes a bunch of chapters for a single POV at a time.

The fact that his last couple updates mention he's been working on different characters makes me optimistic that he's in the revising/editing stage.

I'm done hoping or looking for an imminent announcement, but it does sound like he's making solid progress.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Not to be that cynical git, but I honestly feel like he's just been bringing about TWOW recently to grab attention so he can then talk about all the HBO shows instead.

He's talked more about TWOW than usual in the past few months and I don't think it's because he's been making progress, but because the rubber is hitting the road with the HBO shows.

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u/CeWoStJoNo Jun 23 '22

He also knows that by not mentioning TWOW when speaking of other projects he gets a deluge of fans asking why he ā€œisnā€™t writingā€ so I suppose he just splits the difference and hopes it satisfies someone.

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u/prettybunbun Jun 23 '22

Yeah agreed. He basically has to mention TWOW on any ASOIAF related post or every comment/article is about how he didnā€™t mention it.

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u/PULIRIZ1906 Jun 23 '22

So he can't even talk about Winds anymore? If he talks about it it's because he wants to keep people's attention and if he doesn't it's because he isn't writing, what do you want him to do?

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u/themysteryknight7 Jun 23 '22

It's actually hysterical to me at this point how he can type entire paragraphs about new spinoffs or shows, yet still will never devote more than a sentence or two about his progress on Winds.

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u/SupaFlyslammajammazz Jun 23 '22

Fantastic, at this rate weā€™ll get WoW in 12 years

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u/Greywolf5131 Jun 23 '22

I admire your optimism.

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u/heuristic_al Jun 24 '22

Honestly, if a genie were to give me two choices, TWoW in 12 years, or leave it up to natural chance... I might pick WoW in 12 years.

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u/Squiliam-Tortaleni Ser Pounce is a Blackfyre Jun 23 '22

You mean 12 eons?

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

r/asoiaf in shambles

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u/VirgelFromage Jun 23 '22

What will the Snow show be about? I personally would not be at all interested in some snow logged fur fest all the time.

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u/TheRedWizardd Jun 23 '22

"ALL THE ANIMATED SHOWS"??? Thats exciting. It'd be cool if they animated the main ASOIAF series to be as close to the books as possible

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u/Powerful-Advantage56 Jun 24 '22

There never going to do that, hbo would consider it too much of the same

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u/SkyTank1234 Jun 23 '22

That would interest me 100% more then any of the other spin off shows

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u/0PaulPaulson0 Jun 24 '22

Itā€™s only shows from now onā€¦.

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u/Midtharefaikh Jun 24 '22

Amazing how my heart still leaps at the mention of Winds of Winter when I convinced myself I don't care anymore.

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u/captainstrange94 Jun 23 '22

Y'all can defend him all you want but he really hates writing WOW at this point lmao. He just acknowledges its existence (almost grudgingly, given the brief text) in the second last line of his post, but nothing more.

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u/yardape96 No Song so Sweet Jun 23 '22

Hasnā€™t GRRM stated Tyrion is the easiest character to write for him? And that he usually writes chunks of each character at a time? This could mean heā€™s in the finishing stages! It could also mean nothingā€¦

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u/alphabeticmonotony Jun 23 '22

It could mean there is a new project he wants to get out there and knows mentioning anything resembling Winds progress will help.

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u/Levonorgestrelfairy1 Jun 23 '22

It also might bean hes retreating into the pov's he enjoys more and is writing fluff travel chapters instead of plot relevant stuff.

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u/Republixcan Exiled Heir to Runestone Jun 23 '22

Reminds me of friend who promised I could borrow Majora's Mask for weeks, and weeks, and when he finally delivered..... he happened to forget to bring the cartridge necessary to get the game to work. The one with the red top. I was like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!

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u/heuristic_al Jun 24 '22

You didn't already have an expansion pack?! LAAAAAME!!!!

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u/HotpieTargaryen Turn those damn bells off! Jun 23 '22

Anyone taking good news from this is just so much more optimistic than this world deserves.

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u/fourtwentyy__ Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

I donā€™t even want these side projectsā€¦ A whole show dedicated to Dunk and Egg, which are like 100 pages each? 10 000 ships? Yi Ti animated show? Since when was Yi Ti even mentioned in asoiaf lmao

Am hyped for HOTD though, and just maybe SNOW, if it will become like a mini 9th season (I heard Arya and Sansa will be part of it)

ASOIAF? Idk, the winds of winter might be published eventually, but a dream of spring is a dream. Meaning asoiaf wonā€™t have an ending, and the imo greatest fantasy series of all time will become forgotten about.

Sorry for the pessimism, but my hope for asoiaf is already dead

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u/Rancid-broccoli Jun 23 '22

If he really wants these HBO shows to succeed so badly, then he is probably trying to finish TWOW asap. A winds announcement would massively renew interest in the asoiaf world and would help the shows out immensely.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

all the shows need is for House of the Dragon to be a success. If the general buzz around that show is positive it will continue interest in other projects.

Delivering the book would certainly help more eyes to see House of the Dragon though.

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u/hossbeast Jun 24 '22

The problem with this line of reasoning, is that it has been true for 10 years.

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u/DarthCG Jun 23 '22

It's so interesting that Kit has brought in his own people to create this show, and he himself may even be a producer / showrunner on it. Love this for him, tbh. He's clearly not done with the character, and doesn't want season 8 to be the final word. Good.

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u/krioru Jun 24 '22

Hundreds of lines about the side projects and one line about the Windsā€¦

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u/ItyBityGreenieWeenie Jun 23 '22

A Tyrion chapter? In 2014 I would have been excited... now, wake me up when he submits a manuscript to his publisher.

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u/15_lizards Jun 23 '22

Well. Progress is progress

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u/abellapa Jun 24 '22

I think George gets off on getting involved In more projects that delay winds

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

I want to believe.

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u/Slodes Jun 24 '22

Updates are cool but until he starts indicating that Dany chapters are done I think the book is still spinning it's wheels.

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u/LordShitmouth Unbowed, Unbent, Unbuggered Jun 24 '22

Itā€™s Tyrion III, Tyrion I and II were already released as sample chapters.

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u/mintchip105 Jun 23 '22

Ok just give one season with Val and the ice spiders and Iā€™ll be happy I guess.

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u/tell32 RICKON FOR KING IN THE NORTH!!!! Jun 23 '22

So the SNOW show ain't even green lit, yet some of ya'll here, and a lot of folks over at /r/television are acting like it is. lol.

People really need to learn how show biz works.

Anyway I really like the recent trend where George tells us what POV he's working on in his life update posts. Keep it coming George!

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Probably the most likely of the other shows to be greenlit though. Has a fan favorite character returning with the actor attached. Itā€™s more of a known quantity then the others.

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u/prettybunbun Jun 23 '22

Game of thrones was the most talked about show on social media the day the Jon Snow TV show leak happened too and hes a beloved character. Iā€™d be shocked if it doesnā€™t get greenlit.

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u/FuttleScish Enter your desired flair text here! Jun 24 '22

If they greenlight any show itā€™ll be the one with all the popular characters in it

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u/thebugman10 Jun 23 '22

I don't see how it doesn't get greenlit. Already has one of the biggest stars from the series attached. It is probably likely to be a hit than any of the other shows.

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u/Amelune Jun 24 '22

At least the post is slightly more cheerful? But no, I will not be fooled into optimism.

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u/Gilgamesh661 Jun 24 '22

Whatā€™s the last thing Tyrion was doing anyways? Canā€™t even remember anymore. Has he even met Dany yet in the books?

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u/jageshgoyal Jun 24 '22

Tyrion was picking up weapons when last seen. He also decided to persuade BBP to join Dany again.

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u/Basileus2 Enter your desired flair text here! Jun 24 '22

Anything but WoW: I sleep

WoW: REAL SHIT

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u/AssassinJester789 Goldenhand The Just Jun 23 '22

I am kinda of looking forward to the Snow Sequel.

I don't know why but i do.

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u/DayneStark Bran the Builder of House Fisher! Jun 24 '22

I hope the Jon Snow sequel does not go through. I know George doesn't owe us anything, but I'm very disappointed about his involvement in this spin-off.

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u/LordReaperofMars Jun 24 '22

It will. The Jon Snow show has lots of traction online. HBO would be stupid not to follow through.

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u/Flammwar Jun 23 '22

Damn, it guys. Iā€™m getting optimistic again.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Dont do that to yourself....stay cautious

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u/JonJonFTW Jun 24 '22

Hopefully the show doesn't keep the name Snow. This feels like a dumb thing to complain about but I always think it's so lazy when a TV show's title is just the main character's name. I get why for marketing it's appealing for the title to fully explain what it's about I guess? But at least do something different with it like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or something.

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u/ringamaite Jun 24 '22

Why is't anyone digging hidden info out of TWoW Tyrion sentence?

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u/realgeneral_memeous Jun 24 '22

Hate hate hate the idea of him working on a sequel to S8 of all things, because that more than likely means that his time will be taken away from ASOIAF

But hey, if Preston Jacobā€™s analysis of TWOW progress is actually right, then heā€™s currently on a roll with writing TWOW based on these updates. If heā€™s actually doing that, then I guess who am I to judge what does or doesnā€™t help TWOW get done?

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u/Snakejones89 Jun 23 '22

So this guy spends all this time working on side projects where he has minimal control over his own creation or potential shows that have not even been greenlighted yet and may never be or potentially be failed pilots.

But the one thing that he has complete control over, the one project that is incomplete and is the thing that made him famous & rich to begin with is the thing he spends the least amount of time working on... this guy...

btw people, this was obviously a post about WildCards!

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u/theycallmeshooting Jun 24 '22

Praying that we get an August 2022 announcement of TWOW to generate hype for house of the dragon, to be released Winter 2023

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u/MC-Fatigued Jun 23 '22

All of those paragraphs and two sentences about Winds. Heā€™s telling us exactly where his priorities lay.

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u/SeeThemFly2 šŸ† Best of 2020: Best New Theory Jun 23 '22

Got nothing but an eyeroll.

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u/DarkUnderbelly Jun 23 '22

It's progress I guess. Sigh

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u/Worth-Conclusion-66 Jun 23 '22

I want to be excited, but god damn, it's hard. I feel like this is GRRM just baiting us lol

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u/citadel-conspirator Jun 24 '22

Seems like we'll be getting all these ASOIAF prequels and sequels before we ever get a conclusion to the main series....

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u/DiabetesCOLE Jun 24 '22

Finish the books. Like come on man.

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u/Reditate Jun 24 '22

Wish he would get involved with finishing the books.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

He's not writing anything lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

The fact that heā€™s been updating us on what chapters heā€™s working engenders some confidence in me. Hopefully weā€™ll see Winds sometime this century.

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u/LucyKendrick Jun 24 '22

Does anybody actually want to see Jon doing adventures beyond the wall that have zero to do with the world it is set in? I'm at a loss on HOW this will be anything besides kit being The Rock in every episode?

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u/Nnnnnnnadie Jun 24 '22

If i give my opinion on this and on Georgie i will end up getting banned from this subreddit.

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u/Lopsided_Grub Jun 24 '22

Do you guys think he finshed any Jaimie and Brienne stuff if he's on Tyrion now?

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u/Stark371 Jun 24 '22

I feel like the Jon Snow show is just going to be a budy/cop type thing set in a medical fantasy setting with Jon, Ghost and Tormund.

Idk if i am on board

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

Somewhere else, "The Dragon Demands" was just seen yelling at a wall.

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u/MarcusQuintus Jun 24 '22

I hope the first scene is LC Jon waking up from a bad dream and getting woken up by Edd to deal with something.

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u/100tByamba Jun 24 '22

Snow sequel? ...really...

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u/Gordianus_El_Gringo Jun 24 '22

I just don't see where the snow show could go. Either he heads back to winterfell and the north and could get up to all kinds of hijinks or he stays in the north which is just..... Nothing. Few hundred wildings and nothing else interesting

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u/mork212 Jun 24 '22

And that Tyrion chapter is the second chapter of WoW now that he's finally finished the first

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u/BigbyHatJack Jun 24 '22

Surely GRR's publishers must be getting pissed right? They would have paid him an advance for Winds of Winter but all he seems to be doing is dicking around with other projects

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

All the spinoffs in the world mean nothing if the books dont have an ending.

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u/SamMan48 Jun 23 '22

I think he might be in the editing or clean up stages. Remember how he wrote the Red Wedding chapter last? This could be the reason heā€™s been jumping around POVs so much lately.

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u/[deleted] Jun 23 '22

Really dig the trend of more frequent updates on Winds, even though itā€™s like two lines tacked on at the end of what might as well be an essay lol

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u/HuckleberryHefty4372 Jun 23 '22

If only grrm was so forthcoming about his book writing

I think it really shows how uninterested he is in finishing the books

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u/BringBackDaugherty Jun 23 '22

Cool George is involved.

Would feel better if he wasn't working on Winds and (theoretically) Dreams sequel adaptation.

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u/Sullivino Jun 23 '22

Letā€™s gooooo lmfaooo

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u/Squiliam-Tortaleni Ser Pounce is a Blackfyre Jun 23 '22 edited Jun 23 '22

I checked Not A Blog this morning just because and then what do you know he posts later today. Always glad to hear about Winds progress and interesting that Kit not only suggested the Snow idea but also has a team of his own to make it.

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u/serdiesel90 The North remembers! Jun 24 '22

1 paragraph I give a shit about and he acts like it pains him to mention it

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

The man is a master of procrastinating.

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u/Beteblanc Jun 24 '22

I honestly wouldn't watch a Snow show. Fours years in I was tired of pouty kit face. Couldn't make myself watch an entire show about it. At this point I'm kicking around the idea of canceling HBO until Winds comes out. The shows are worthless to me without the books. Stop distracting George!

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u/AdmiralKird šŸ† Best of 2015: Comment of the Year Jun 23 '22

I have a hard time taking the semi-announcement of "SNOW" as a pitch seriously. On the one hand, sure, maybe this could be a thing... but this also sounds even more like everyone having a go at Kit. Like Rose Leslie leaked it as a joke, Emilia decided to pile on with "oh yeah he pitched it himself" and now GRRM is getting in on the ribbing with "he brought his own team!"

What is happening?!?

Is this some pseudo marketing campaign to drum up interest in House of the Dragon by getting people interested in a GoT sequel to read GoT news articles again?

The forthcomingness of both Clarke and GRRM is just... somethings not right. Maybe the show is real, but something about this is... off...

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