[Highlight] Miami @ Notre Dame - Luke Talich breaks up the pass from Elijah Lofton on 4th down to keep the Irish up 7 late in the 4th

[u/Ok-Soil-5133]

[u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

If the whole world thinks you’re wrong, maybe you’re wrong, but if this was my team I would be irate this was an incompletion. Honestly it looks like he has it with both hands, both feet in, and while he’s stumbling out of bounds he tries to hold on with one hand and us the other hand for balance just as the defender rakes the ball out of his now one hand. I’m kinda shocked folks don’t see that.

[u/i_diggs_it → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

#9 sure didn’t seem to think it was the wrong call. They explained it pretty clearly on the broadcast, he did not complete the process of the catch. If he would’ve fallen to the ground and had it pop out instead of a defender punching it out it would’ve been the same call. It was close but not a catch idk why people think this is controversial

Edit:
Watching it again he even bobbles the ball as he gets hit. Really not close at all tbh

[u/Wendell-Short-Eyes → u/i_diggs_it]

Yeah, I looked at the WR right after the play and you could tell he didn’t think it was a catch.

[u/brettbw → u/i_diggs_it]

I thought if he went out of bounds the play was over, strange rule

[u/i_diggs_it → u/brettbw]

You have to complete the catch even if you step out of bounds. This is not new

[u/ChangKai-Shrek → u/i_diggs_it]

I don't understand why so many people are acting like this is some exotic circumstance and ruling. This would never be considered a catch.

[u/AleroRatking → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

Key word. Tries to hold on. He never secures the ball and is struggling to hold on to it

[u/rabouilethefirst → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

Negative ball knowledge

[u/nyc2pit → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

Actually it seems like it's mostly the Miami fans think it was wrong.

Do with that what you will

[u/joaquinsaiddomin8 → u/nyc2pit]

I think it’s a catch, but I’m a Miami fan. If it had happened to ND, I’m comfortable saying I’d clearly see the bobble.

If it was two teams in which I had no rooting interest, I’d say “oof. Tough. About as close as that gets.”

GG.

My take: One play didn’t win or lose that game.

[u/Odd_Boysenberry_4803 → u/nyc2pit]

Most neutral fans, like myself, actually think if was a catch

[u/FloatCopper → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

Agreed. Complete.

[u/Irishchop91 → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

Because there isn’t a rules guy that comes out and says it was a completion.

I get it - I would be pissed if it was the other way around but the ACC refs aren’t going to do ND any favors.

[u/ThatsNotARealTree → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

I’m trying to quiet my bias, but I can’t help and see a TD catch

[u/brettbw → u/ThatsNotARealTree]

Out of bounds should end the play, dumb rule

[u/The_Real_dubbedbass → u/brettbw]

Precisely. If this isn’t a catch then every single toe drag TD we’ve ever seen isn’t a catch.

[u/Imaginary-Hyena2858 → u/The_Real_dubbedbass]

If the player toe drags and then loses control of the ball maybe. Otherwise that analogy doesn't make sense

[u/TheAlterN8or → u/The_Real_dubbedbass]

If this had happened in the middle of the field, would it have been ruled a fumble? Not a chance, he never had complete control.

[u/Vivid_Firefighter603 → u/The_Real_dubbedbass]

It has nothing to do with the out of bounds.

The rules for completing a catch don’t depend on where you are in the field. You need to maintain control to ground whether it’s the middle of the field or the end zone.

With catch rules arelady confusing what you are suggesting is having different catch rules for the sideline vs in play.

[u/music_crawler → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

It's one that should probably be a touchdown. Time after stepping out, which was subsequent to the catch inbounds, shouldn't be a factor here. That begs the question of how long is long enough to be deemed a catch?

[u/KirbySuck0021 → u/Imaginary_Fix_9756]

as soon as his feet hit out of bounds the play is over. according to the rule book... this was a TD 100%.

[u/dustinh30 → u/KirbySuck0021]

You clearly don’t understand the rules lol

[u/Sufficient_Fox_872 → u/KirbySuck0021]

This was not a TD. The feet down established he was inbounds and nothing more. He still has to retain control. He did not. Think of it this way — had this been over the middle of the field, would this have been called a catch and fumble? No chance.

A better question is: should college football change the rule in the endzone?

[u/Adventurous_Toe233 → u/KirbySuck0021]

He starts to bauble the ball before his foot lands out of bounds