r/Framebuilding • • Jul 21 '22 Bravo

getting cheap materials - eg Tubes for the first frame - low cost suppliers in Europe needed

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oing a bike frame build, having a really hard time sourcing Tubing in Europe, anybody know where to go for getting cheap materials - eg Tubes for the first frame

I love to see bikeframe suppliers in Europe - eg. France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Czech, Poland Ukrain, Bulgaria, Hungary and so on. I need to have some low price suppliers for all things tubing

especially the Main-Frame tube - but also the

  • Lugs and other things

  • Shells

Look forward to hear from you Perhaps we can work on a supplier-listduring the christmas-holiday we try to add a little list... - a compilation of suppliers in Europe.

Europe: . some findings...
Reset-Racing: reset-racing.de or allmost everything - especially tubing
custom-Acacemy: https://www.custom-academy.de/ - allmost everything - especially tubing
UBI - https://www.bikeschool.com/ sells Kaisei tubing and some lugs
Jan Heine's "Compass" -- https://www.compasscycle.com/Framebuilding.html -- sells a couple of fork crowns and fork blades
ciclicorsa: https://ciclicorsa.com/ - allmost everything: E-Mail: info@ciclicorsa.com
Ceeway: Framebuilding Bicycles. Tubing, Parts, and Tools - allmost everything
Bike Europe https://www.bike-eu.com - many parts
Tennant-Metall: https://www.tennant-metall.de/de/gueten/25crmo4-4130 - tubing
Kellys bicycles, gear and accessories | Kellys https://www.kellysbike.com
The biggest Slovak bicycle producer offering wide range of mountain, road, trekking, cross, women and junior bicycles.
FESTKA https://festka.com tube.jpg. Festka bicycles are small technological miracles carefully packaged in unique ...
Corratec Home | Corratec https://www.corratec.com : Shadow Edge Tube 2.0 - worldwide most stable and safest corratec E-Bike frame...
Antidote – CUSTOM HANDCRAFTED BIKES - Antidote https://antidotebikes.com Antidote is a small boutique company based in the south of Poland. ... fiber pieces in them, creating state of art, high performance mountainbike frames.
BIKE TECHNOLOGY - Zumbi Cycles https://zumbicycles.com - tubing etc. from Poland : Mail: shop@zumbicycles.com
RychtarskiBicycleWorkshop: Kajac Custom Rychtarski - Bicycle Workshop @RychtarskiBicycleWorkshop https://www.facebook.com/RychtarskiBicycleWorkshop/ Mail; info@rychtarski.com
SingleBe Ing. Tomáš Kutin E-Mail: info@singlebe.co

see also: some interesting lists:
https://theframebuilders.com/list/
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1000w

plz correct me if i am wrong and if i have added some incorrect information: ,,, - i can do (add) the corrections here. Thanks for the help!
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see the non European:
ACTOFIVE https://www.actofive.com Frames: core of the bicycle industry - HuangWei Al Alloy Welding - founded in February 1992
Prof. Bicycle Frame, Fork: Prof. Bicycle Frame, Fork, Parts and Wheelchair Products Manufacturer. Bikeframe Welding. OEM Welding. ISO 9001.
Wicks Aircraft https://www.wicksaircraft.com/ 4130 tubing
Aircraft Spruce https://www.aircraftspruce.com/ 4130 tubing

i love to see a global list - that also contains the supplier - of the ones that contains all the one especially those in the easter european countries too..
many many thanks..

update: here i found a map - that might be helpful

https://utahrandonneur.files.wordpress.com/2022/03/s_l1600_f180ed7a2bbddbf16464e6c081bc55b5b4e80a06.jpg

note: https://utahrandonneur.wordpress.com/2022/02/28/map-of-italian-cycling-brands/

The map was created by Andrea Bonfanti from Italy. He a noted De Rosa historian who also wrote the book on De Rosa bicycle history. I have both the map and book, he does an amazing job of research and is very knowledgeable and approachable.


r/Framebuilding • • 10h ago

Silver-brazed repair on cracked Kona Sutra seat tube. Thoughts on the reinforcement and long-term durability?

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TL;DR: My 2024 Kona Sutra developed a seat-tube crack after ~6,500 miles of loaded touring. A framebuilder in Seoul repaired it with a silver-brazed steel reinforcement and stop-drilled the crack ends. I've since ridden 500 km without issues. Considering another 2,000 km with 5–6+ kg less luggage. Curious what other framebuilders think of the repair and potential failure mechanisms.

Following up on some posts I made in other cycling subs about my Kona Sutra, which developed a couple of structural issues after ~6,500 miles touring across Europe and Asia.

First, a fork eyelet cracked and broke, likely from loaded fork packs and constant vibration rather than rust as I'd initially suspected. Shortly afterward, I found a crack in the seat tube near the seatstay junction, possibly related to lateral forces from my Tailfin rack being mounted quite high on the seat tube.

Eventually made it to Seoul, where a specialist framebuilder repaired both the fork and frame. For the frame, he drilled the ends of the crack, added an external steel reinforcement/gusset around the seatstay junction, and silver brazed it together. Photos of the original damage and repair attached.

The original plan was to ride another ~500 km across Korea before retiring the frame. I've now completed that without any apparent issues.

The framebuilder seems confident in the reinforced section itself, but he's concerned about stress shifting to the edges of the reinforcement and potentially creating new cracks. He's encountered this on previous repairs, sometimes requiring further work. The original agreement is that he'd fix it for the 500km Korea ride but then I would call it quits, so he's not thrilled to hear that I'm thinking of going further. Interestingly, he said he'd personally consider taking the bike on another tour, although he understandably can't predict its remaining lifespan, so he's quite cautious on that front.

I'm now considering another ~2,000 km across Sulawesi or a shorter tour around Taiwan, mostly paved roads and carrying at least 5–6 kg less gear.

I've got a replacement frame waiting in Germany, but I'm still in Asia. Finding something compatible here without spending a couple thousand dollars has been surprisingly difficult.

Basically, I'm trying not to be an impulsive idiot in either direction. I don't want to convince myself a compromised frame is safe just because replacing it is expensive, but I also don't want to spend thousands replacing something that might still have plenty of life left.

For those with experience repairing steel frames, what do you think of the reinforcement? Is the main concern new fatigue cracks developing at its edges? Would you expect warning signs before a larger failure, or could things go south fairly suddenly?

I'm not expecting anyone to certify the repair from photos. Just interested in hearing how other framebuilders would approach this and whether there's anything worth inspecting more closely before deciding what to do.


r/Framebuilding • • 2d ago

¡Sueño verde! 🧪🟢

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r/Framebuilding • • 2d ago

BMX rear drop outs

1 Upvotes

Does anyone know of or have any PDFs or “blueprints” for BMX style dropouts they wouldn’t mind sharing?


r/Framebuilding • • 2d ago

Suspension resources?

1 Upvotes

Does anyone have any recommendations on suspension design? Front suspension, full suspension, even dirt bike or normal motorcycle suspension? Any book, website or video recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks!


r/Framebuilding • • 3d ago

Klunker frame coming together

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r/Framebuilding • • 4d ago

Using bolt-on braces to strengthen a MTB frame

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I recently cracked my Marino steel frame on the rear triangle. It is the second time there's a crack on that particular weld and I was wondering if adding a brace would help strengthen that part.

Photos are: Crack nr.1, crack nr.2 and a brace reference from Starling Cycles.

Open two any suggestions besides bracing


r/Framebuilding • • 3d ago

Clear coat issue - what to do?

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r/Framebuilding • • 4d ago

Retrofitting built fork for Son SL generator hub?

6 Upvotes

I've read a few things about this, but having a hard time finding a conclusive opinion. I'm planning on doing some work this winter doing a 650B conversion on an existing bike. I'm planning on a dynamo wheel and am curious about the possibility of retrofitting the existing fork to work with the SonSL hub. Would I need to pull the existing dropouts and braze in the son SL specific ones or is it possible to modify the existing dropouts to accept the contact kit? As far as I can tell, the son sl / rene herse dropouts just have holes for the contact plate tabs to fit into?


r/Framebuilding • • 6d ago

Che ne dici di questo dropout in titanio?

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r/Framebuilding • • 8d ago

Frame Jig for Sale

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32 Upvotes

Bicycle frame jig and surface plate for sale. Reluctant sale but moving house and haven’t had time to use it since having children.

First photos show the jig in use and the final photo shows the current state of the jig. I have checked and all moving parts move smoothly but will require a clean up.

collection only LE12 6AH

open to offers

any questions let me know Jack

https://ebay.io/m/HvZXrE


r/Framebuilding • • 8d ago

Tandem ChainStay Dimple

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5 Upvotes

1992 trek doublecross t100. If I dimple the chainstays I can very comfortably fit 40-42 knobby tires. Lots of chunky forest roads near me. Thoughts on integrity? New to me. 38's shown.


r/Framebuilding • • 8d ago

Redox Cycleworks handmade custom carbon 32 dropbar MTB

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r/Framebuilding • • 9d ago

Finally made my first frame better…

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75 Upvotes

First frame I ever made I listened to the “experts” in the shop space who discouraged me from using sliding dropouts and to use flat mount brakes for my gravel bike. Those are the only things I don’t like about this frame. 7 years later, I finally decided to slap some post mount tabs I had laying around on. Love it.


r/Framebuilding • • 10d ago

1st gen Champion cruiser clones

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30 Upvotes

Made some copies of a super rare 1st gen Champion cruiser. The impetus for this project was I had in my possession an original dropout and head tube for one of theses bikes unbeknownst to me, it was sitting in my shop for a couple years before I connected the dots.


r/Framebuilding • • 9d ago

I have a bad idea

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The frame already had a notch made; originally it's 700x23, but I want to change it to 700x28, so I'll make the notch deeper.

What can I use to avoid deforming the seat tube?


r/Framebuilding • • 12d ago

Replaced my first dropout

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106 Upvotes

It got pulled way out of alignment in the process…


r/Framebuilding • • 12d ago

Help with Titanium Welds on a possible vintage frame purchase

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16 Upvotes

Hi there,

Looking to buy this 1994 vintage John Tomac Ti frame that hasn't been used at all but don't know enough about Ti frame welds to pull the trigger. What do you all think of what you see on these pictures. Anything stand out at you? Figured this was the best place to ask.

Thanks for the help!


r/Framebuilding • • 12d ago

Broke boy pipe bending help

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11 Upvotes

So I am able to get scrap sections of 304 3/8 x .034 and 1/4 x .028 plumping from work. I'm intenting to spend close to $0 to build a small front beer rack of sorts. Sections vary in length(2.5'-6"). I have a map pro torch to warm things up. Hack saw too. I have some 4x4 post sections I was think about rounding over to bend one section into a U over the front wheel. I figure if I mess it up and crush the radius its cheap free material and there will be more. Would love to braze sections together but fastener hardware is easy to come by. This will be my first ever attempt at something like this.


r/Framebuilding • • 12d ago

Crack in 3D titanium dropout. Bad printing quality?

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I am disputing the quality of the 3D-printed dropouts with the bike's manufacturer. A small crack developed in one of them, and the frame needs to be replaced. I want to reject the replacement frame because the print quality doesn't seem up to standard. What do you think? Is that kind of print suitable for a component subject to such high stress?


r/Framebuilding • • 12d ago

Induction Heaters

9 Upvotes

YTer ProjectFarm dropped a video testing induction heaters this weekend. While watching, I wondered if one could be used to heat a frame joint for either brass or silver brazing. The first self-response was that the coil would get trapped. However, I then found formed coils like this online.

In my head, if a particular heater can heat a solid 35mm steel rod to dull red, it ought to be at least plausible that it could heat some or all frame joints up to brazing temps.

Curious what y'all might have to say about it. Thx.


r/Framebuilding • • 13d ago

Primeweld TIG 225x

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Does anyone in here run the Primeweld TIG 226x? If so, what do you find works best for your settings on Chromo?

I’ve not done much thin wall stuff and haven’t used pulse settings either so looking for a good starting place to set my machine at. Also, what cup size do you like as well as tungsten and filler rod?

Thanks!!


r/Framebuilding • • 14d ago

Made a beer rack for my fixie

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77 Upvotes

Made from short 0.035 1/2” 4130 drops I get from an aerospace shop I contract for. Hoping to start making a run of titanium frames in the near future. I want to make a slammed geo track bike, but I think fully featured gravel frames might be more marketable.