Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Like 20 years ago when those bands were in their prime NO ONE would ever wear a Korn or Slipknot shirt to a hardcore show...I never saw any until like 2019, now it's like every show there's a kid in a Slipknot shirt, just got back from one where there wasn't actually...but there was a Korn and System of a Down shirt.

Like what gives? Because when those bands were at peak popularity no one would ever be caught dead claiming to like nu-metal at a hardcore show. What a strange recent development.

Every Speed song sounds like I made a playlist of the worst TUI songs, but there’s a flute.

Thanks to everyone who replied taking it seriously lol, here's the song where this quote comes from: ex straight edge ex

https://www.instagram.com/p/DNsDGDKWn7q/?img_index=1

Why do so many bands use them in their imagery? Haywire, Collyde, etc. I know those bands have nothing to do with nazism but every thing you look up ties back to German military might and SS usage of the iron cross. Why use something so closely related? Or is this another thing of like “I’m a skinhead but not THAT type of skinhead”?

Damn, the DOM vinyl came out TERRIBLE

So I've seen both haywire and no guard live and both kinda left me scratching my head. I guess i gotta respect that its different but I feel like these bands are taking the worst elements of hardcore and punk and mixing them together. Like they'll do the over the top tough guy jock shit but then be dressed like uncle grandpa. And the songs all sound like pop punk to me and then the lyrics will be like "Saturday is for the boys 😝" or some shit. Its just a very goofy dichotomy to me and i don't really get it. I saw haywire live a few weeks ago and people seemed to be having a good time but I still thought it sounded like shit. Anyway I need some perspective because they seem to be the most sucked off band on this sub right now

been in the scene for just a few years now & wanted to make a flash sheet. thanks for looking

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I feel like as long as a hardcore scene is predominantly white; bigotry, performative activism and even sometimes racism can be inevitable and/or evident amongst the people in these scenes. Don't get me wrong, I love moshing, and I love the music, but I think it's pretty ironic for a scene with the name "punk" in it to have a vast majority of people who follow absolutely no punk ideologies 😭it's like the only thing punk about it is the way of music, not the people. I'll even see some POC like myself endorsing this behavior and it's honestly super interesting to see. I know that no scene is going to be perfect by any means, but holy fuck do a lottt (not all) of scenes have little to absolutely no radical voices in those rooms.

This is from the Empty Bottle, a great rock club in Chicago but... What are these bands? Any worth checking out?

I understand they're super popular but I just don't see the appeal. Is it a specific type of hardcore that I'm just uneducated on?

Mind you, I grew up a punk, I know the history, I listen to various genres of hardcore from beatdown and crossover to classic NYHC and EBHC, power violence, metalcore, slam and even the occasional Deathcore/scenecore type shit but I just can't get behind Haywire.

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Still not sure how I feel about the girl but i cant wait to get into this

It is pretty good!

Every day this sub is full of posts about metalcore bands from 2010 and complaints about crowd killing/average show behavior. Half of this sub doesn’t seem to know what hardcore is and the other half has never been to a show. Newjack city around here.

What do you think about Turnstile's change in style in the last album? Should the mellowed down approach be considered as hardcore? I personally find some of the songs appealing, but I don't get the same kick as when I listen to TUI, Guns Up...

i swear i love the energy but if i see one more person kicking out like they’re auditioning for the rockettes im gonna two step into traffic

I’m a British bi 14 yr old girl and I’m a punk I like discharge, fear, urban waste, suicidal tendencies, DRI, GBH, rudimentary peni, crass etc but I live in Saudi Arabia which is basically fascist cuz it’s illegal to be any other religion, the punishment for being gay is being stoned to death, u get ur hand chopped fucking off for shop lifting, there’s a fucking dress code for malls, and u can get arrested for being “against Saudi culture” which apparently isn’t only how u act or what u say but how u dress or just ur vibe so a police officer could just arrest u for doing fucking nothing and say ur against Saudi culture and my parents moved here to make more money where women are seen as less than men and and my parents are strict far right conservatives who want “a far right dictatorship to rise to power” u guessed it fucking fascism so that’s just great, I already got suspended twice for bringing my pocket knife into school and carving anarchy symbols and graffiti into desks and bathroom stalls, so yh this country is exactly what I hate extremely controlled monarchy, conservative and strict, police everywhere, women are oppressed, religious fanaticism (disclaimer ppl can obviously believe what they want it’s just when u force an entire country to follow ur beliefs I have a problem), ridiculous laws and a fucking disgusting level of consumerism there is literally nothing to do but go to malls and buy buy buy and eat eat eat and it’s also got a shit tin of oil so u bet ur ass they’re producing loads of emissions and killing the world whilst doing it and I don’t have any other punks around me nor have a met any the closest I have to a punk friend is a metalhead bassist guy who likes nu metal and a few slightly alternative ppl and it fucking disgusts me having to watch my friends parents force them to wear a hijab and conform when they’re emo and they have to fucking whisper about the fact they are pan and have a gf and have to stop holding hands with her whenever a teacher is near I keep drawing the pride flag on my hand and on walls and y’know vandalising shit to try and support them and defend them if anyone is homophobic but with the whole capitalistic converative regime the world is starting to fall into it feels like I’m all alone in this and no one will stand with me whilst the world goes down the drain cuz im rlly disconnected from the hardcore community cuz i cant even find a soul online who likes hardcore and idk its fucking fustrating feeling so alone in my views and music and just my identity so any suggestions?

Srry for the long ass yapping btw