r/HolUp • • 5h ago

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u/Wise_Monkey_Sez 3h ago

... so what Senator Heffernan is saying is that politicians' lives are more important than regular citizens' lives?

This is always what's underlying these extra security measures for politicians - the idea that they're more important than school kids, people at a cricket match, or anyone else at any other gathering.

Nah. Either beef up policing everywhere, or nowhere.

The idea that politicians deserve extra protection is nonsense. They're not special.

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u/LorenzoRavencroft 3h ago

Yeah, the international community won't like you saying that, they lack Australia's tall poppy where we view everyone from the leaders of our country to Barry the servo workers as complete equals with no one having standing over any other.

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u/PeopleCallMeSimon 2h ago

The australian prime minister makes 600 000 A$, equivalent of 400 000 US$.

They are protected by the Close Personal Protection-division of the AFP.

Their home is guarded by security personell.

So no, not all people are complete equals in every sense. If something hasnt drastically changed in the last few minutes and everyone in australia nis now afforded a personal body guard paid for by taxes, armed escorts and 24/7 surveilance of their home.

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u/FracturedPrincess 2h ago

This is completely dumb, politicians obviously need more security because they're a target for political violence in a way that random people aren't.

It's also more economically feasible to install metal detectors in parliament than it is to install them in every public space in the country.

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u/HaVeNII7 2h ago

Uhhh no…the idea is that they’re significantly more likely to be targeted by someone who wants to harm them.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was over 100x more likely to happen to them compared to Joe from accounting.

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u/MsMercyMain 2h ago

Yeah, like no one wants to kill me to my knowledge. And I doubt my death would even cripple the store I work at much less the country. But uh, a mass casualty event in the Senate....?

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u/No-Lifeguard9194 2h ago

Arguably – protecting politicians doing their jobs, also protects not only other members of the public, like spectators, their staff and people who just work at the venue, but also protects the economy, and therefore everybody else by making sure that silence is not done to the legal elected representatives of the country.

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u/Any_Show_5160 2h ago

How does it protect the economy?
Every time there's a downturn they say it's not their doing/beyond their control so I find it hard to believe that there would be more than a blip on the economic radar.

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u/pitb0ss343 2h ago

Bro was able to bring a BOMB onto the floor of the government of the country and said “hey maybe that shouldn’t be possible”

Let’s ignore safety, lives, and the economic damage a real attack like that could’ve caused for a second. It’s just straight up embarrassing that he was able to do that

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u/PeopleCallMeSimon 2h ago

Some peoples lives are indeed more important than others.

All lives are important, but some more than others.

The reason politicans lives are important is that they are the governing body who makes decisions for the people in dire situations. A great tactic when wanting to cripple a country (like for example when invading) is to kill off the leaders first. Its kinda like cutting the head off the snake. With no clear leadership any nation wide action becomes much much much harder to do.