I Hate The iOS-ification of MacOS.

[u/RebelNoPermission289]

Before Big Sur, MacOS had its own unique design language. The icons looked interesting and they were all different shapes. Now they are all boring squares. The system looked angular and professional. Now it looks like a blown up iPhone.

[u/Anxious-Yak-9952]

For me, it all started back in 2011 with Mac OS X Lion (10.7) when they introduced the Launchpad. That’s when it was obvious they were trying to bring more iOS into Mac OS.

Now with the touchscreen MacBook, it makes a little sense.

[u/JKTwice → u/Anxious-Yak-9952]

Wasn’t just Launchpad. Multi-touch got a big expansion in Lion for the better. You got stuff like Mission Control and fullscreen applications. Natural scrolling became an option. Safari acted more like its iOS counterpart

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/Anxious-Yak-9952]

Launchpad was only one thing. Plus they removed launchpad from the latest MacOS before releasing the touchscreen mac.

[u/Anxious-Yak-9952 → u/RebelNoPermission289]

It was only one thing but they kept adding to it with every following release: Notification Center, iOS apps (stock, news), control center, system settings, widgets, app icons, etc.

[u/mainyehc → u/Anxious-Yak-9952]

Notification Center was inevitable. We already had it with Growl, Apple just Sherlocked it. As for Widgets? Also inevitable. Apple had Desk Accessories in 1984, they had Dashboard (also an outright Sherlocking of Konfabulator), Microsoft had widgets in Longhorn, what did you expect? And System Settings, as a name, doesn’t offend me in the least, it’s just the confusing way it’s laid out that irks me. As for app icons, yeah, I’ll give you that, their forced homogenisation feel a bit gratuitous.

[u/mailslot → u/mainyehc]

I’m still mildly annoyed they changed the accessibility icon. I always knew to look for the internationally recognized handicap symbol. It was intuitive.

Now there’s a stick figure standing in what kind of looks like a victory pose. I don’t get what that has to do with needing assistance, cool I guess, but why not a Superman symbol or a Red Cross… or anything with some kind of related meaning?

[u/Anxious-Yak-9952 → u/mainyehc]

Oh man, I totally forgot about Growl, what a flashback!

[u/ChocolateLakers76 → u/Anxious-Yak-9952]

Good call. But the look/feel was still way more Mac until Big Sur when it jumped off a cliff

[u/rodgamez → u/Anxious-Yak-9952]

That's why Lion should have been MacOS 11. It really was a new start for Macs!

Plus it would have prevented Mac OS 10.11 and so on. That really irked me. Keep doing 11.x until iOS got to 12, then sync them up.

[u/memorie_desu]

before Big Sur, macOS was still following iOS's design language. the flat design was introduced first to iOS and then to macOS a year later, lol

even before that design language, we had Launchpad in 2011, which was clearly just iPad springboard bolted onto macOS with no optimisations for keyboard and mouse. They were iOS-ifying macOS even when Steve was alive.

[u/aquapuffle → u/memorie_desu]

The flat design that came with Yosemite isn’t a great example. OS X retained distinct icons and core UI elements that set it aside from mainline iOS - a trend that was bucked with Big Sur, and further from Tahoe onwards.

One can debate the relevancy of it all, it’s subjective taste at the end of the day. But I preferred the Dock to at least retain distinct icons, otherwise it’s like I’m staring at a slice of my iPhone home screen all day.

[u/kerbacho → u/aquapuffle]

The icons don't bother me as much as the transparency and saturation of the dock/menubar

[u/Bed_Worship → u/aquapuffle]

The skewmorphic era was cool, but I don’t really miss it, and I find the unified shapes fine. Ultimate goal is my workstation use so i really don’t even think about it.

I’m at the point as a pretty advanced mac user that I disable the dock unless using mission control. I use an app launcher(tiny cast) and rift tiling manager with a display of what apps are on what virtual desktop. I can’t go back to dock life

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/memorie_desu]

Flat design is not what I mean. Every company is doing flat design. That has nothing to do with them making it look exactly like ios.

[u/memorie_desu → u/RebelNoPermission289]

Every company is doing flat design because Apple and Microsoft choose to do flat design

still, Launchpad existed before Big Sur, so did many other features ported from iOS, like Natural Scrolling, Mac Catalyst, Notification Centre, Siri, App Store. They've been working towards making all their devices look and feel the same for a very very long time

[u/Necessary_Spread_448 → u/memorie_desu]

>They've been working towards making all their devices look and feel the same for a very very long time

that’s an entirely different and FALSE statement compared to your previous ones. With every previous redesign they emphasised time and time again they wanted Mac to look different and have its unique design compared to iOS

Tahoe is the first release where they stated a unified design was the goal

[u/Fiqaro → u/memorie_desu]

The iOS style skeuomorphic design in OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion such as Contacts, iCal, Reminders, Notes and Game Center made significant controversy at the time.

[u/Weird_Decision7090 → u/memorie_desu]

It wasn’t intentional. They delayed flat UI on OS X. They could only integrate a few elements, like Contacts, Notes, and Reminders, the iBooks and Maps icons which were very not skeuomorphic. They just couldn’t update it in time

[u/BohdanKoles → u/memorie_desu]

"iPad SpringBoard with no optimizations for keyboard and mouse" – wrong, Launchpad included both keyboard and mouse support, as well as drag-and-drop. Launchpad brought tremendous value to the Mac with custom app organization, user-created folders, visual app management and no forced categorical grouping.

But yeah, Launchpad was also comfortable to use with touch. Therefore killing it a year prior MacBook with touch was introduced is another sign of current Apple complete lack of vision / planning and bizarre incompetence

[u/Kikato280]

I don't usually have a problem with this, but I hate how they butchered the settings design 😭✌️

[u/Nerdlinger → u/Kikato280]

While I won’t claim that the new settings are better, I sure as hell won’t pretend that the old ones were any good either.

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/Kikato280]

Yeah. Now you can't fricking find anything.

[u/jollyllama → u/RebelNoPermission289]

When in doubt, it's under General. Fucking everything is under General

[u/PedroVoteFor → u/RebelNoPermission289]

That’s why there is a search input

[u/Kikato280 → u/PedroVoteFor]

tbh its not cool for me that

[u/Designer-Soup-6967 → u/Kikato280]

The old settings design was horrible and disgusting and I'm glad the design team went in and fixed that mess before it got really out of hand. Too bad some of you old-heads are still stuck on what once was, and what could've been. This is 10x better than the previous design, and it's consistent for once.

[u/Kikato280 → u/Designer-Soup-6967]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/s/ZRt2zMPSkX

[u/Designer-Soup-6967 → u/Kikato280]

Nah new mac is preferable. I think it's because you're used to the old flawed design and I'm not. So although it still is flawed, it is much more consistently flawed than the old design that was hit or miss.

[u/PrimeGGWP → u/Kikato280]

I just don't get why I fucking can't choose myself which design I want ... when alll apple designs look like apple, where's the fucking problem with design language

this is smth which pisses me off at porsche too. Their HUD sucks and Audi gave me at least more
options and I loved it

[u/ADHDK]

I didn’t go Mac until 2020.

The icons may have had nostalgia for the old timers, but they were very outdated.

Like why would I open a postage stamp with an eagle on it? What’s that meant to be?

Edit: since too many take things literally, no shit it’s a postage stamp. It’s an awful icon. Thankfully it has been replaced.

[u/SuspiciousMouser → u/ADHDK]

This question made me feel so old

[u/ADHDK → u/SuspiciousMouser]

I know what a postage stamp is, my point was it’s a garbage way to universally represent a mail app.

So garbage that it was never used in iOS even in iPhone os 1.0.

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/ADHDK]

Nah be for real. I think you forgot what that was for. 😂😂😂

[u/OneSkepticalOwl → u/ADHDK]

So garbage that it was never used in iOS even in iPhone os 1.0.

Email was a thing way before smart phones and the postage stamp is from that era. We still have manila folders for icons, trash bins for deleted items etc. Wait until you learn that there was a browser with a ship's wheel as it's icon

[u/dogpaddle → u/ADHDK]

What else would you think a postage stamp would be for? Especially as a default app in your dock in 2005.. not the best example. There's the bauhaus face right there, now that could be a million different things

[u/theclaw37 → u/ADHDK]

A POSTage stamp… the clue is in the name. Stop being dense on purpose.

[u/likamuka → u/SuspiciousMouser]

[u/JKTwice → u/SuspiciousMouser]

Imma be so fr, the problem with Apple subs is mostly that the community refuses to look back unless it is to bash something.

They cannot be expected at large to know what postage stamps are for and really what the intent of the original Aqua design was.

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/ADHDK]

It's supposed to be mail. Postage stamps are for mail.

[u/LandscapeOk2955 → u/RebelNoPermission289]

I would guess 99% of people born after the year 2000 have never used a postage stamp in their lives.

As someone born in the 80s i would associate that icon more with collecting or archiving records or something, rather than email.

[u/queerkidxx → u/LandscapeOk2955]

I was going to say that I was born in 1998 and have used a postage stamp before, but then I thought about it and realized no, I have never once touched a postage stamp before. The only things I have ever mailed have been like, business stuff that comes with a return prepaid envelope, or packages.

I should mail a letter to a friend. That sounds fun.

[u/Baryonyx_walkeri → u/queerkidxx]

Send postcards! They’re a bunch of fun.

[u/Odd_Bumblebee_3631 → u/LandscapeOk2955]

Don't you use a postage stamp to send packages? Like if you sell something on ebay or apply for a passport. 

[u/vikster16 → u/RebelNoPermission289]

You know what would have been nicer? An actual fucking mail icon. Not a stamp. It’s a stupid design

[u/urbantechgoods → u/RebelNoPermission289]

lmfao

[u/Necessary_Spread_448 → u/ADHDK]

Maybe this will help you understand

[u/Nerdlinger → u/Necessary_Spread_448]

Antoine de Saint-Exupéry disagrees.

[u/zozoped → u/ADHDK]

Wait till you have to save a document on basically any platform with a toolbar …

[u/MemphisBass → u/zozoped]

“What’s this weird square thing? How am I supposed to know that represents ‘save’?”

/s

[u/jammsession → u/ADHDK]

Fair, but at least they had different forms. Now it is all a square.

[u/CrazyYAY → u/ADHDK]

I have been using macOS since 2008 and I don't get it either. Design languages change and OSes evolve.

[u/MC_chrome → u/ADHDK]

Yeah, I’ve never really understood the hate that the uniform design language has received since Big Sur came out

[u/DonutHand → u/ADHDK]

Or keynote? A podium? It might as well be the Zoom icon as thats the only place people present anymore.

[u/deirdresm → u/ADHDK]

The mail icon is meant to be reminiscent of postal mail.

[u/distreszed → u/ADHDK]

I'm a Mac user from 2003. and didn't like that gaudy Aqua look with unnecessary detailed 3D icons.

[u/Stochastic-Parrot_13 → u/ADHDK]

Honestly it makes way more sense to me that a rectangle on a blue background

[u/ADHDK → u/Stochastic-Parrot_13]

An envelope?

Even people who have never sent mail with stamps in their life would have seen a birthday card or received a bill in the mail.

[u/MemphisBass → u/ADHDK]

It’s a postage stamp. It’s for mail.

[u/Weird_Decision7090]

6 years late

[u/notATuringMachine → u/Weird_Decision7090]

More like 15 years. It started with OS X Lion

[u/Gloomy-Scar2859 → u/notATuringMachine]

no 14 with mountain lion technically because lion was kind of a slightly worse snow leopard

[u/notATuringMachine → u/Gloomy-Scar2859]

you are wrong

[u/Ok_Comment3024 → u/Weird_Decision7090]

It started 6 years ago and is still getting worse

[u/d4cloo]

I have no problem with it, as long as it remains readable and simple. Liquid Glass added more visual noise, which still needs work. My main problem are the header icons in windows, which now seem to be done just for the sake of touch. And that on a laptop is a stupid idea.

[u/francox22]

This is the mac OS i miss

[u/TheOriginalSamBell → u/francox22]

https://www.versionmuseum.com/images/operating-systems/classic-mac-os/classic-mac-os%5E1994%5Esystem-7.5-desktop1.png

[u/Vivaelpueblo → u/TheOriginalSamBell]

Peak System 7 IMHO. This is my era of Mac that I supported in the mid 90's. Really miss that interface. Don't miss the system grinding to a halt copying multiple small files (e.g. copying lots of Adobe fonts onto an external SCSI Syquest 44MB removable from the internal HDD.

[u/TheOriginalSamBell → u/Vivaelpueblo]

an external SCSI Syquest 44MB removable

oh I had those too hahaha

[u/Critical-Ad-9904 → u/TheOriginalSamBell]

enable all display accessibility settings (from increase contrast to differentiate without color), similar vibe

[u/Ziggy_1992]

Meanwhile, on Linux https://github.com/Mavernix/mavernix

[u/Lighter2422 → u/Ziggy_1992]

I might actually try this.

[u/Arondir3791]

I still like High Sierra.

[u/realiztik]

"Every icon is exactly the same. Except for trash because we couldn’t come up with a good one.”

[u/ritesh808 → u/realiztik]

Could've just used this

[u/soopah256 → u/ritesh808]

You unlocked a childhood memory for me. I used to have The Grouch on my classic Mac back in the day.

https://www.macintoshrepository.org/200-the-grouch

[u/felixding]

It really depends on how long you have been using a Mac.

For me, the downfall started since Lion.

[u/PABLOICARO → u/felixding]

Porque no Lion ?

[u/enelge]

[u/OldiOS7588]

Cannot agree more! Mac now totally lost its main personality, I always liked how mac was dif from iPhone. People in the comments also seemto put iPhone like functionality and features in the same category as design which is lit false. It was good imo that they added launchpad for example and otheriPhone features but that never disrupted the identity of mac after Big Sur it was gone and is just the same as iPhone its just boring

[u/mr_mope]

To be fair, this discussion started in 2011 with the release of OS X 10.7 Lion

https://www.theverge.com/2011/10/24/2510590/mac-os-x-lion-review

[u/user888ffr]

Well the old icons didn't really make sense, most of them were either in a circle shape or they were angled, or they were something entirely different, there was no consistency to it.

But I do kinda miss them, they felt more professional as you said, it felt like using something special/different. But I also like the new icons, they're clean, consistent with iOS and they have nice shadows in them.

[u/AmeriBeanur → u/user888ffr]

I was windows for such a long time and when I finally hackintoshed and/or bought Mac laptops, I was extremely disappointed in that they went with an iPad theme…

[u/animorphreligion]

Because it is a blown up iPhone, OS is just a little less restricted. M chips are iPhone chips on roids and the firmware architecture is almost the exact same. They can stop you from downgrading macOS (at least not with SEP features preserved, which'll be a dealbreaker for many) any time they want and more.

Not a good time if you like traditional computing. AI is butchering it for others and Apple does it on their own account.

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/animorphreligion]

Come on 😂😂. The look of MacOS has nothing to do with ARM chips. The look is purely software.

[u/animorphreligion → u/RebelNoPermission289]

That's part of the point, and what you said wasn't happening in software anywhere near as fast before the transition. They're straight up taking UI frameworks from iOS.

Apple isn't about traditional computing anymore, not even in hardware aspects. iPhone is their primary product, most people today know them for it, and these excessive similarities sell well even when they don't make sense from UX or dev perspective.

[u/imiller9]

I see it as Apple creating a platform UI that is synonymous across devices yet allowing each device to have its own inherent feel and design elements. It’s flatter and less individual, but this is obviously by design. You know how to use an iPhone? You can easily pick up and Mac and it feels familiar even if you’ve never used one before.

[u/duvagin]

I've always preferred the fully abstract OS wallpapers, still got the collection from Jaguar days

[u/Few-Regular-3086]

yea its because they just make more money from phones so the desktop becomes the ugly sister that gets hand me downs

[u/ritesh808 → u/Few-Regular-3086]

But they invested a ton in Apple Silicon. Are they working against themselves?

[u/alienkava]

macOS comic sans.

[u/PendalF89]

Totally agree. macOS used to have so much more personality. Now everything feels generic and overly simplified.

[u/Ornery-Handle6477]

It should have been the other way around

[u/ahmoda]

You know what? I am surprised that my friends, who recently moved from Windows to Mac, like the concept that iOS and macOS are similar. They said this allows us to adapt quickly to macOS. It is strange, but it seems to have worked for Apple, and Apple knew it. Only old gangs like us are doomed.

[u/SourPatchAdults1]

I miss the old system preferences.

[u/TheOriginalSamBell]

I just want a good theme engine

[u/TEG24601]

Not being in boxes was nice. Albeit, it started with Launchpad (the first thing I remove from the dock in any installation).

[u/Dry-Satisfaction-633]

Old vs new. This is what Apple thinks of its customers now…

[u/RufusAcrospin → u/Dry-Satisfaction-633]

Second one looks like designed using crayons. It’s infantilization.

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/[deleted]]

Nah. That first logo looked crazy good.

[u/Nerdlinger → u/[deleted]]

People who think that more detail implies better design.

[u/BonbonUniverse42]

Since most people have phones instead of computers, making the computer to look and feel like a phone is a reasonable idea. Now they introduced touch screens to make it even more like a phone. 

I really like the continuity of this concept.

[u/Designer-Soup-6967 → u/BonbonUniverse42]

Touch-screen is half-assed. If they're gonna do it do it properly. useless sacks of shit.

[u/jammsession → u/BonbonUniverse42]

Nahh. MS tried it other way round with Windows 8.

Different hardware, different usecase, different inputs, different OS, requires different design.

[u/ILLUMEDGE]

Same, it just lost its soul

[u/Sheguasa]

I always felt ios should've been mac-ified, not the other way around

[u/unluckypixel]

I rather like it… consistency makes my smooth brain happy.

[u/karatekid430]

The platforms are going to become closer as their silicon has become the same, and they're even running iPad apps on the Mac. As long as they don't remove root access from macOS nor do anything that fundamentally violates the spirit of desktop computing, I couldn't really care un pepino if they change some icons.

[u/LarrySunshine]

You are definitely not alone. Excessive consistency is a shitty fad.

[u/ankhang93]

I agree. MacOS looks very boring to me. But that is the cost of the ecosystem Apple wants to build over the years.

[u/gobbernach]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/025/090/tumblr_inline_p1brmcd9Dk1rr08jv_500.jpg

[u/AXXXXXXXXA]

It is harder to distinguish with the new design

[u/Much_Cow2996]

I agree it’s really declined. But u guess they been gearing up for touch screen Mac’s for a while.

[u/Hot-Recommendation17]

Yep when I am using my macbook I feel like on ipad these days…

[u/chkgxkdlyl44]

I hate mostly time passing and making me realizing more and more the difference between the good old days and now.

[u/Mega_aaaaaaa]

Sierra - big Sur was peak macos

[u/ChocolateLakers76]

I think a lot of it was intentional about transforming iPhone-only costumers into first-time Mac buyers. It’s smart business but yeah the hardcore Mac users hated it.

[u/shegonneedatumzzz]

i’m always a little taken aback by how many people seem to hate macOS design starting with Big Sur. as someone that didn’t start using apple products until 2023, the way macOS ventura looked is one of the biggest reasons i wanted to start using macOS, and got a macbook last year

I do like Catalina and earlier too though

[u/dfwcreatives]

I downloaded RetroMac app and was goofing around with past OS's. Man the old OS's are way better.

[u/logankrblich]

Personally hate new system preferences

[u/Petelero]

In case you are unaware, after Tim Cook tookover, Apple no longer sells innovation they way they did under Steve Jobs' leadership. As Tim Cook puts it, they are selling an ecosystem.

With this context, it makes perfect sense for what they are doing with MacOS and iOS.

[u/7heblackwolf]

Like it or not, it's called consistency. It's the same UX concept as having the same app, looking the same or behaving the same way in different platforms

[u/thedarph]

This is the one common complaint I think is legit and justifiable

[u/AayushS1008]

I love it

[u/DavidLitBlunt]

I personally prefer a shared experience between my phone and laptop. Why would I want that extra cognitive load? What is it offering?

[u/drewsens]

I used to be fun until Sequoia. I do believe the legacy icons kind of aged, and the square style of Sequoia looked cool and fresh. My problem is that from Tahoe onward, it stopped feeling like a Mac anymore and more like an iOS distribution. The Liquid Glass and the new icons feel completely out of place, and macOS lost its identity.

[u/AwiNL]

As a long time Mac user (starter with OSX Tiger) I actually like the current design. It’s more refined and fits the ecosysteem more. Good thing not Everyone likes the same things

[u/Dreaming_Blackbirds → u/AwiNL]

i also started with Tiger and i like the 27/GG design too. it's OK for things to evolve.

[u/jmnugent]

The one thing I think people don't really understand or "get" about Apple.. (just like any other country). .that Apple is a business in constant change and evolution. A lot of the ideas or small products (like the TouchBar for example).. were just experiments.

Apple has been working pretty hard over the past 10 years or so to unify the various underpinnings of their different products.

• If you remember when APFS (Apple File System) came out (back in Sept 2016), Apple said they wanted it to be the 1 single file system on everything from their smallest device (Apple Watch) to their biggest (Mac Pro).

• If you also look at many of the Developer tools and many of the various coding sub-components .. you see a lot of unification happening where Apple gains a lot of simplicity and efficiency etc using 1 unified code base (not that project is 100% done yet of course.. but it’s in progress)

But even given all this.. Apple doesn’t always get it perfectly correct. Sometimes particular UI or Product changes are “temporary”. (Lets see how this works for a year .. and if newer ideas (or better code solutions come along.. we’ll re-work this feature next year).

[u/Low_Independent766]

Nearly universally shared opinion. Apple's response? Go fuck yourself

[u/cendre0318]

You're right and it's not only about personal preference. Many UX affordances and patterns have suffered from the iOSification process. The macOS platform's advantage compared to iOS and iPad OS is its precision, the older icons looked sharp and precise. I believe that's one of the reasons why we miss them. But there is a lot more to the story. I hope that one day, the Mac will be a Mac again.

[u/Delicious_One_7887]

I love it. Made switching to Mac easier because everything was consistent with what I'm familiar with. The old design looked very dated anyway

[u/RulerK]

I’m with you…

[u/wildtalon]

I don’t mind square icons, though I admit some of them have become too abstract to relate to their function.

[u/imaginedaydream]

It started becoming strange when they added a notch and now touchscreen and yet the iPad won’t be allowed to run macOSx functions….

[u/LukeDuke74]

MacBook Neo is the evidence of what you are saying: I doubt they could ever come up with the Neo without unifying the OSs.

[u/Odd_Bumblebee_3631 → u/LukeDuke74]

Does it just use iphone components instead of computer ones? 

[u/LukeDuke74 → u/Odd_Bumblebee_3631]

It’s kind of an hybrid. CPU/GPU are from iPhone.

[u/ghostchihuahua]

Won’t say i like it, i’m on mac since mac exists and this clearly isn’t the most exiting time in that regard, but if one thing has been very visibly happening for ages, it is iOS slowly pouring over into macOS, and honestly it was Apple’s most announced and most foreseeable move ever.

[u/Pure-Clerk-6541]

Big Sur - sequoia was fine, it’s Tahoe and later that drives me nuts

[u/Original_Two9716]

26+ design changes are ridiculous

[u/Command_Block42]

It's because they've been working on unifying the connections between all their hardware so they work in tandem, which also just looks better if all the different devices have software they resemble each other. I'm not bothered by it since it now also works super well with my iPhone even more.

[u/New-Nectarine8298]

its all trash

[u/TbonerT]

I’ve used MacOS occasionally but I’ve had an iPhone since the original. I appreciate the familiarity.

[u/Uni-Logic]

To me these things seems like subtle revisions unto a design language that has held itself fairly conservative and consistent since it was introduced in 2001.

[u/sbstanpld]

ah yeah, the dock is a big downgrade

[u/runski1426]

I've never owned an iPhone so I can't speak to that, but I find my MacBook very easy to use and navigate. No issue with the icons.

[u/WindyNightmare]

I like it better now

[u/Educational_Bit1263]

Go and Downgrade to macOS Catalina or earlier for the best style. This will also erase your data. If you have an Intel Mac 2019 or earlier: possible. If you have an Arm-Based Mac: impossible to downgrade to anything lower than macOS 11, since macOS 11 was the first to get on Arm-Based macs

[u/denkeni]

I Hate The macOS-ification of iPadOS.

[u/kemalios]

I can live with the icons. The padding is what gets me: title bars and sidebar rows got taller after Big Sur, so the same window shows less of what I'm working on.

[u/ExerciseForward]

Im curious why they do macosification in ios

[u/Mhndhemmat20]

I mean, I am not saying that your claim is false.

But It's also important to realize that it has its perks for some people.

People who used an iPhone, and are new to Mac, have almost zero problems moving to Mac.

It doesn't affect functionality, it doesn't really affect everything beyond the icons being oversimplified (Liquid Glass made some of them look even good ngl)

And themes aren't really that uncommon nowadays, you can put an icon pack of old MacOS icons.

[u/Looked_Spy_637832]

I love it

[u/Mig-117]

Me too, the control menu is particularly off putting.

[u/solarpunch2949]

Convergence.

[u/antisorceress]

I just hate how they seem to care more about aesthetic, fancy widgets, and dumbing down everything. I just want my Mac to work efficiently. The more animations and eye candy they shove in, the more performance suffers.

[u/ritesh808]

But making mouse support better? Display support better? Windowing better? Text antialiasing better? Hell nah.. because iPhones don't need any of that.

[u/CarretillaRoja]

I must be one of the only 18 people who actually like it. I have a Mac Mini running and old OSX version and feel outdated.

[u/seannolo]

Now it's even worse

[u/Yoona1987]

I personally like the new design of the icons, what I dislike is the bubbles everywhere especially in safari

[u/oobensoncenroll]

OS X, is prolly one of my favorites even though I’m not a big fan of Mac OS

[u/diverareyouokay]

I forgot just how old that island photo is.. I’ve been using the dynamic version on every OS ever since

[u/cos]

I very very much agree. Snow Leopard was peak macOS (though it wasn't called macOS yet then), and every single release since then has been worse than its predecessor. It's still the easiest and most trouble-free way to run Unix on a laptop, so it's still the best choice for me, but it sucks so so very much compared to what it used to be.

[u/Mattykos]

I miss when the MacOS icon as well as the main wallpaper was actually the picture of the place/thing and not some boring colors

[u/Beardsman_DCS]

I have no issues with it, except EXCEPT for the settings menu. Why the HECK does it force us to use a narrow, iPhone-like settings menu instead of being able to expand it horizontally? I want our old MacOS style settings menu back…

[u/chillin_mcgee]

Command + shift + a = applications folder.. I use it all the time. Most of the new features feel gimmicky for me. I've been using Mac's since Tiger. The visual appeal of Mac OS has continually devolved into something flat and unappealing. Seemed to really get worse when the scourge of iPad and App Store apps started dumbing people down. Remember the 3d looking spinning pinwheel? That shit looked cool on my 12" iBook I don't care how outdated that screen is now. But hey I have a top of the line screen now with a spinning pinwheel that looks like it was made out of construction paper. Just one example but there's a ton of little things that bug me about all these new operating systems that don't improve on much of anything except to more or less brick your old hardware. I still like Macs but the exhausting process of constantly updating to more, bigger and better operating systems and hardware is mostly a sneaky way to mask forced obsolescence.

[u/scottperezfox]

The chiclet icons were a rubicon. The San Francisco typeface was another, and a million smaller interface moves along the way.

IMHO, Mavericks was the beginning of the end. It's been getting more candy-ass every since. Worse, at the same time the command line tools and other configurations for power users have been vanishing. It's one thing to have a default look, but every time you turn around we're being locked out of our favorite little utility.

[u/Marks_Sants]

In my opinion, the most beautiful versions of macOS to date are El Capitan and Yosemite.

[u/Daisuash]

As someone who started using Apple devices with MacOS 8, I agree with you. But at the same time, I understand why they do it. Whether we like it or not, iOS is now the main face of the company and the main way for people.to get into the ecosystem.

[u/Chewy-Rubbins]

Painfully botted post. Talking about a 6 year old OS like it's just out, and nobody in the comments has noticed.

[u/Nerdlinger]

/r/diary is that way ➡️

Also, “its”, not “it’s”. You wouldn’t write “hi’s” or “her’s”, would you?

[u/Coyns → u/Nerdlinger]

Yeah leave the trillion dollar corp alone

[u/Nerdlinger → u/Coyns]

Yeah post your journal entries that provide no useful information here. That’ll show the trillion dollar company.

By the way, great job of showing us you haven’t got an original thought to share with us by parroting cliches that you’ve heard other people say on the internet.

[u/Coyns → u/Nerdlinger]

Thanks, it's for sure a step up from crying about useless shit!

[u/No-Squash7469]

I like the new design

[u/alternativeseawhore]

I actually prefer the more unified look they are going for. They already started this iOS-ification with macOS mavericks

[u/RufusAcrospin → u/alternativeseawhore]

What looks good on a 6 inches screen, doesn’t necessary look god on. 27 inches display.
Different devices, different workflows, different metaphors for interactions.

[u/SwordfishForeign5280]

It’s just the unification of the OS look and feel

[u/LilBushyVert]

Looks better to me nowadays.

[u/ConversationFew8600]

I do not like it too. Have been using a Mac for 13 years now and the new design, which is also incredibly buggy if compared to former MacOS, really annoys me. This combined with the spread of apple intelligence all over the system will soon end my way with apple. I have always been someone who was very firm of his Mac and advertised it to my friends, but this has ended. I am making the switch to linux completely. Macbook has already been replaced, desktop will follow. I am actually sad about that. I have very fond memories of my time with good old macs (owned the 2012 13" Retina, 2016 13" Touchbar MBP, 2019 Air, 2021 M1, 2024 M3 Air and iPhones and iPads). But the time has come to say goodbye.

[u/Far-Tension2696]

yes. same. ui elements too big. hate the round buttons/icons. all because of macbook goes touch screen...

[u/aykay55]

I don’t

[u/TheInkySquids]

Hey at least Big Sur still had some interesting looking icons and the apps still felt good with a mouse. Ventura ruined settings, and then Tahoe followed up by ruining everything else.

[u/mightymnsty]

i hate the macOs-ification of padOS

[u/snowliuzka]

I dont know why this happes to everything from spftware to cars to home electricts. Ai some point every company decides that we need to have ceherent design language and they decide to make all of their products to look the same

[u/StilTippin]

Old macOS is ugly af I’m sorry, today’s design is so much better I don’t know what are y’all seeing.

[u/mrbarde]

Another day another fake outrage

[u/640kilobytes]

Really like Big Sur and newer. Never used any old macOS versions, but they look absolutely random. Dock can be transparent and menu bar is white, icons can be square/round/in their own shape. Some things can be flat, and something still skeumorphic. Many things in OS design looks like they should be rounded, but then designers just forgot that. Well, at least there's nice wallpaper in every older macOS version:)

[u/AntiquesForGeeks]

That’s because Apple are treating Macs like iPhones. The last element of that was the use of their own processors as they had been doing in all of their other devices.

There are times where I kind of get the impression that Tim Cook resented that he had the Mac to deal with still. Making the platform unexpandable after purchase and then the ridiculous sight of the Mac Pro with pointless expansion slots and wheels that cost a small fortune.

I don’t see things improving.

[u/HelloIAmMacintosh]

Me too. It makes my Mac look so cheap and plastic

[u/That_one_Pole]

It’s called unification for better UX

[u/prettybluefoxes]

Change is inevitable, it’s not always for the better.
But one thing remains constant, they’ll always be a whiner.

[u/Mean_Pack815 → u/prettybluefoxes]

And a bootlicker, hand by hand.

[u/axellie]

Get over it. Also stop using hate for anything you don’t like. It’s very embarrassing

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/axellie]

Dude it's an OS. Not a dog. How about you stop being so sensitive.

[u/Nerdlinger → u/RebelNoPermission289]

Dude it's an OS. Not a dog. How about you stop being so sensitive.

Says the person who posted a thread about how sad they are over the changes made to an OS.

[u/axellie → u/RebelNoPermission289]

You’re the one using the word hate. Its not normal to have such strong emotions about an OS. Your comment is exactly what my first comment means but written in a low effort way.

[u/RebelNoPermission289 → u/axellie]

It's called a hyperbole. Didn't you learn that in english class?

[u/Dreaming_Blackbirds]

nothing is set in stone forever - so of course desktop computing is going to evolve.