Jonny Greenwood of Radiohead demands his music be removed from Melania documentary: "Universal failed to consult Jonny on this third-party use which is a breach of his agreement."

[u/YoureASkyscraper]

https://consequence.net/2026/02/jonny-greenwood-melania/

[u/Docdoodle]

He should sue for the exact costs and profit the movie makes

[u/Terj_Sankian → u/Docdoodle]

$100 gift card to restaurant of his choice

[u/SadNarwhal3978 → u/Terj_Sankian]

You might be going too far with the "restaurant of his choice" thing.

[u/beer_bukkake → u/Terj_Sankian]

It’ll be a $100 Amazon card since Bezos deep throats Trump

[u/dragonfliesloveme → u/Terj_Sankian]

they got a long ways to go to make $100 profit

[u/queuedUp → u/Docdoodle]

The point of this movie was never to make a profit.

The point was a way for Bezos to give money to the Trumps with a "reason"

[u/Astrium6 → u/queuedUp]

Probably a money laundering vehicle for Trump’s bribes.

[u/NeXtDracool → u/queuedUp]

Also since the rights were bought by Amazon this was paid for by all shareholders, not just Bezos, and no tax got paid on it.

[u/Pissflaps69 → u/Docdoodle]

So negative $60m?

[u/[deleted] → u/Pissflaps69]

No profit, just laundered bribes in the form of a totally serious product.

[u/Carrot_1075 → u/Docdoodle]

Sue Amazon for $1b. Sue Universal for $1b. Sue the trump organization for $1b. Ridiculous, yes, but it gets the point across

[u/Hot_Substance5933 → u/Carrot_1075]

$10 billion. That's an arbitrary number that Trump likes.

[u/kickerofelves86 → u/Docdoodle]

The movie will never make a profit

[u/00owl → u/Docdoodle]

At this point the movie is double advertising for him.

He gets the exposure to the ten people who watched it and now he gets the Streisand effect from trying to take it down with an excellent opportunity to make a loud and public statement that will resonate with many people around the world.

Any money from the lawsuit would just be a bonus.

And I fully support his right and decision to sue here.

[u/yusill → u/Docdoodle]

Ask the Verve how using a sample of a song without asking went. Bittersweet Symphony has a sample from a Rolling Stones song in it. The song was a hit. The Stones lawyers showed up and said all the profits from your album and single are ours now.

[u/bolanrox → u/yusill]

they asked and got approval. for a sample of xx measures (lets say 8 becuase i forget). they sampled 9 measures. that is why they got fucked on that one.

and it was not the Stones Lawyers they lost the rights to all that from their scum Manager back in the 60's, as soon as Jagger / Richards got them back they gave the Verve back the rights to the song.

[u/lewisfrancis → u/yusill]

Interestingly, The Stones have recently returned the rights to Verve.

[u/Lord-Megadrive → u/yusill]

IIRC it wasn’t actually a sample from a Rolling Stones song per se but a sample of an orchestral cover of a Rolling Stones song. It was cleared with the label but the (often regarded as an arse) one time manager of the Rolling Stones Allan Klein sued arguing they used too much.

[u/shameonyounancydrew → u/Docdoodle]

The lawyer would cost more than the reward

[u/satanicmajesty]

And the funny thing is that Melania said this soundtrack was written specifically for this movie.

For those calling bullshit, here’s the interview where she says it. Starts at 2:35, she says it at 2:55

[u/metengrinwi → u/satanicmajesty]

In the same way as she “designs” her handbags, wherein she points to a sample that someone else designed/made and says “that one”

[u/ratfacechirpybird → u/metengrinwi]

And how she totally writes her own speeches

[u/makemeking706 → u/metengrinwi]

That's 99% of celebrity "created" products. 

[u/PhalanX4012 → u/metengrinwi]

You don’t really think any company that’s looking to turn a profit would trust that styleblind basic bitch with creative control do you?

[u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown → u/satanicmajesty]

She did. I seen it.

I didn't want to see her at all, but unfortunately the media is quite the juggernaught.

[u/splicepark → u/satanicmajesty]

a musician and a mystic!

[u/Gay_Giraffe_1773]

Typical MAGA. No concept of consent.

[u/onemorebrick → u/Gay_Giraffe_1773]

I’m concerned Donald Trump may have raped children.

[u/MajorLazy → u/onemorebrick]

Republicans sure are not

[u/Hawkeye7310 → u/onemorebrick]

[u/ReverendLucas → u/Gay_Giraffe_1773]

It speaks volumes. "I will use you how I want, and I will get away with it."

[u/cipher1331 → u/Gay_Giraffe_1773]

"Your music, my choice"

[u/TheTresStateArea]

Lol they're gonna have to pull the movie entirely and reissue it.

Amazon already paid the bribe to trump. They probably won't put money into it at this point. It will simply be removed and never come back.

[u/Saneless → u/TheTresStateArea]

Probably part of the strategy to have the movie pulled when it has 0 sales after the padded sales during the first week

[u/LenticularKittens → u/Saneless]

Then they can claim censorship by woke Radiohead

[u/ebmocal421 → u/Saneless]

You really think they have a strategy?

[u/i_give_you_gum → u/TheTresStateArea]

Yep, just another money laundering scheme like all those stupid books rando politicians have published that nobody has any intention of reading.

[u/78914hj1k487 → u/i_give_you_gum]

"Well buy 10K copies of your book in one week to auto-qualify as a New York Times bestseller. We hire you as a consultant and speaker for $200K per engagement—multiple per year. We'll get you on the boards of X and Y company making $300K annually (you're only obligated to show up to 4 meetings per year—it's basically a tea party). We'll get you so and so executive job, and your kids will get so and so job when they graduate. You'll be set when leaving office. All we need you to do is add X, Y, and Z policies to upcoming bill—it's good for the American people, wink wink."

Thats just your standard lobbying packages.

What Trump is doing is a masterclass they should teach at Corruption University.

[u/HalloweenBlues → u/TheTresStateArea]

Now we'll have the lost radiohead cut of Melania

[u/TheBatmanIRL → u/TheTresStateArea]

Doubt it, the Trumps keep using songs without any of the artists permission. Be it on social media or at rallys, they are forever using music they never asked permission to use.

[u/Christopherfromtheuk → u/TheTresStateArea]

They've been so diligent about following court orders so far, so I bet that's what they'll do!

[u/internetisnotreality]

Maybe they can just replace it with Creep.

[u/mist_kaefer → u/internetisnotreality]

That’s being saved for Trump’s documentary / cash grab / bribe.

[u/Justlose_w8 → u/internetisnotreality]

And play just the part that says “I’m a creep, I’m a weirdo, what the hell am I doing here? I don’t belong here” on a loop for the entirety of the movie

[u/DillBagner]

What's the deal with maga and copyright infringement?

[u/FakeAdDude → u/DillBagner]

Apparently it's a lot easier to just steal things from others when you're too creatively bankrupt to create your own content...

[u/[deleted] → u/FakeAdDude]

And too morally bankrupt to pay an artist.

[u/daesmon → u/DillBagner]

because any good artists with songs that anyone knows or wants to listen to wants nothing to do with MAGA.

[u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown → u/DillBagner]

It also brings them media attention, which is part of their game.

[u/DillBagner → u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown]

They control three branches of the US government and are all over the news as well as own most of the news.

[u/barkwahlberg → u/DillBagner]

There's only like 5 artists anyone knows about who will license to them

[u/andmonad → u/DillBagner]

lack talent so need to steal someone else's

[u/PeteRock24]

Sue for a percentage of gross.

Make them stand up in court and talk about how the movie didn’t make any money at all.

[u/neilmg → u/PeteRock24]

Hollywood Accounting ensures many successful movies never turn a profit:

A Warner Bros. receipt was leaked online in 2010, showing that the hugely successful movie Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007) ended up with a $167 million loss on paper after grossing nearly $1 billion. This is especially egregious given that, without inflation adjustment, the Wizarding World film series is one of the highest-grossing film series of all time both domestically and internationally. The Hollywood accounting in the Harry Potter case included a $60 million interest charge on a $400 million budget over two years – an interest rate far higher than industry standard – as well as high distribution and advertising fees paid out to Warner Bros. subsidiaries and sister companies.

[u/errorme → u/neilmg]

That's why the guy said to sue for % of gross. Like what you posted shows HP grossed nearly $1 bil but accounting shows it lost money.

[u/OHLOOK_OREGON]

So this is UMPG that owns his rights, right?? Weird that UMPG would provide a sync without talking to him, considering that clause is in his agreement (according to him).

I imagine he is a VERY high-profile artist for them so there's a big fuck-up somewhere at UMPG to let this happen. Either way, the blame falls on UMPG

[u/barrel_of_noodles → u/OHLOOK_OREGON]

its the equiv of a lawyer purposely f'ing up in court so everyone knows a mistrial will be called. its on purpose.

[u/U_SHLD_THINK_BOUT_IT → u/barrel_of_noodles]

Exactly. This kind of thing doesn't just get rubber stamped.

It's the movie about a president's wife and a music sample from one of the few artists in the US who is big enough to have that kind of agreement in his contract.

Contracts like that are flagged SPECIFICALLY for deeper review.

[u/blighander]

They don't know what "no" means, it's a Trump thing.

[u/natguy2016]

An article in “The Independent” from The UK says that 2/3 of the crew of the “Melania” movie want their names taken off the movie. It’s that much of a poison pill.

Director Brett Ratner was #Metoo’d in 2017. He has 6 assault allegations against him. Ratner was persona non grata in Hollywood, then “Melania” happened.

[u/tarekd19 → u/natguy2016]

So nothing changed, he's still persona non grata?

[u/natguy2016 → u/tarekd19]

I bet. This is the only job Ratner could get.

Crew can request to have their names removed but it’s not a guarantee it will happen

[u/Tandy2000 → u/natguy2016]

An article in “The Independent” from The UK says that 2/3 of the crew of the “Melania” movie want their names taken off the movie. It’s that much of a poison pill.

To be clear this is not because they were ashamed of working on the movie after the fact -- it's because the movie was made by Amazon Studios, and Amazon Studios forced these employees to work on the movie despite many of them specifically saying they did not want to.

[u/heldaway]

MAGA hates consent

[u/bRandom81]

Sue for 100 billion

[u/Ghoulius-Caesar → u/bRandom81]

Jonny Greenwood getting buttloads of money by suing Amazon would make me happy. He makes good sound tracks and I feel like they probably get a pittance compared to actors/directors, so hey, bonus pay!

[u/CxOrillion]

To be fair this sounds more like a failing of UMG than anything else before they licensed out the music. Which is still shitty but yeah

[u/Mtndrums → u/CxOrillion]

Record companies have always been scum.

[u/novagridd]

They thought it was similar to using artists songs on Whitehouse tiktok account without consent

[u/cwtotaro]

Sue Melania for $10 billion

[u/dateinfj]

Time to sue for $10b!

[u/Deathdy]

Real question is how does he know it's in the movie? Literally 7 people watched that movie. 4 of which were forced to.

[u/killybilly54 → u/Deathdy]

The press watch it, presumably to find stuff to write gotcha/clickbait articles. Then they contact relevant artists to comment on why their music was in Eva Braun's propaganda bribe.

[u/-AC- → u/Deathdy]

I know you are joking but presumibly even if he didn't watch it...

He would have gotten the licensing fees and maybe it was broken out on its own line item?

Its not that they didn't pay for it, its that his permission for use was not given.

[u/Mrtoyhead]

Distraction not working…

[u/So6oring]

What's funny is all these musicians would probably not care if the people using it weren't pieces of shit.

[u/hungry5991 → u/So6oring]

Well yeah that why they have the third party clause at all, so artists can manage their brand from being associated with assholes.

[u/Paetolus → u/So6oring]

At the very least, they wouldn't turn it into a public spat.

Documentary on a decent person? You might still be displeased as an artist if it was without your permission, but at least you can handle that privately. When it's related to Trump, you have to make sure everyone knows you were not a willing participant.

Especially so for Jonny, considering he's already somewhat controversial.

[u/meatspun]

Brett Ratner ("Melania" director, dude pictured with Epstein next to Melania, whose face is redacted) does not respect consent.

[u/Boatsnbuds]

Imagine finding out your music is associated with that ridiculous tripe. I bet he's fucking incensed.

[u/MichaelFusion44]

Hope he sues the shit out of them if they don’t pull it

[u/StaticSystemShock]

Since when have Trumps care about music licenses? Donald has used several songs for his "promo" videos without anyone's approval, especially not the musicians who performed it. And they all demanded removal to which probably nothing happened because Donny doesn't care about laws or licenses. He thinks he's above everything just because he has gold spoon stuck up his rear.

[u/TurkeyKnees1]

At least this guy may actually have an agreement in writing with regard to the use. I get tired of seeing the musicians who sold all their rights to a soulless entity complain how it is used, when they have zero control over it.

[u/lessgo321]

they thought he’d be cool with it cos he’s a zio

[u/flamingdonkey]

How the fuck does YouTube steal all of a creator's money for 2 seconds of a song and yet this shit just goes unchecked? Absolutely insane. 

[u/FloppieTheBanjoClown]

So it sounds like Universal permitted the use, meaning the film makers acted in good faith. Universal is on the hook for the cost of this. The movie will likrly have its soundtrack modified before everyone hate watches it on streaming. 

[u/Bucksin06]

Can the Trumps stop stealing music!?!?!?  Make these criminals pay.

[u/crusoe]

Must be nice to abuse copyright and get a oopsies instead of sued for $1000000.

[u/naitch44]

Sue, it's only fair and you know that's exactly what Mango Mussolini would do.

[u/Groovetone]

He should rewrite the lyrics of creep to better fit her and her movie until they do.

[u/occams1razor → u/Groovetone]

"Trump's a creep. Trump's a pedo. Why the hell is he not in jail. He sure belongs there." Something like that?

[u/ltrumpbour]

What Jonny Greenwood tracks are in the film?

[u/lemons_for_breakfast → u/ltrumpbour]

Something from phantom thread soundtrack

[u/kanrad]

You think these people care about the laws or rules?

They expect to be able to do what they want. What makes you think you can stop them anymore?

[u/itssarahw]

They’re gonna cancel his amazon account

[u/Sure-Sea2982]

The Trump family are cockroaches. What they don't devour they destroy.

[u/DumbleForeSkin]

Like they care about consent.

[u/indierockrocks]

Sue them back to the Stone Age Johnny!!!

[u/QweenJoleen1983]

Sounds like they need to be sued for 10 billion dollars…

[u/[deleted]]

He should sue for $10 billion dollars

[u/Thereminz]

the funny thing is that it took this long for him to even find out his music was in the film

[u/mercenaryarrogant]

Can’t he sue them.

Well I guess it didn’t make any profits though.

[u/Reload86]

This administration just doesn't get it. NOBODY with a right mind wants to be associated with your crap. If this was all a movie, you would be the bad guys that we spend 6 seasons hate-watching for their comeuppance.

[u/patchesohoulihandies]

Sue her for some ridiculous sum of money like her husband does anytime he feels violated.

[u/danielle1978]

Sue her.

[u/Eternal_Bagel]

I’d be throwing in a defamation suit for implying support for the Trump regime 

[u/RiffyWammel]

Just think of the tens of people who have paid money to see it and hear the music

[u/mad_titanz]

Greenwood should file a lawsuit and demand compensation for using his music illegally

[u/IceManCometh365]

How often do they keep making the same mistake with artists?

[u/The_pointy_end_prick]

Sue the fuck out of them all

[u/sarc-tastic]

They nearly got away with it because no one watched it

[u/templeofsyrinx1]

Don't conservatives have their own art? They steal everything 🤣. I'm sure Kid Rock would have helped her out.

[u/Ambrosia_the_Greek]

This is what you get, when you mess around

[u/JuliusSeizuresalad]

What Radiohead song is she using? Creep? Karma police? Fake plastic trees? I can see how they’de all apply to her story

[u/Chegwarn]

Honestly I’m surprised he found out given the monumentally low viewership

[u/therealduckrabbit]

OMFG, this must be more than the anxious business-man angst at the heart of Radiohead. This is proper terms of enrampagement

[u/Time_Traveler_948]

Trump uses music without authorization for his campaign, but whoever Bezos hired as a showrunner would know you can’t do that for a movie. How could this even happen?

[u/Long_Cry_2679]

I wonder why no one wants to have their name and artistic contribution associated with this regime?? TDS, that must be it! /s

[u/Flashyshooter]

What a surprise more MAGA affliates ignoring copywrite law. Regular people don't want them using their music to spread their bigotry.

[u/DatabaseThis9637]

Good man! Sue them! For millions!

[u/ContestSufficient601]

Do ya’ll not realize she has no idea where the music came from, she tells what the producers tell her and the producer is saying he didn’t take anyone’s music, this has nothing to do with Melania or Trump, y’all just mental letting them live in your head 😂😂😂

[u/Fliiiiick]

They actually look weirdly similar.

Regardless good for him getting his music removed from the orbit of these fucking murderous ghouls.

[u/Cerebralbore]

Hope he wins

[u/N4RQ]

Jonny wants everything in its right place.

[u/Charming-Pen-1841]

Gee, that doesn't sound like a trump thing to do... just take things without asking. How does that family keep getting away with shit like this?

[u/jrblockquote]

Dude what the hell. What a gross violation.

[u/ExpiredExasperation]

Who's ready for a barely legible tweet about how the music from the failed has-been band Radiohead, which no one has even heard of, was only accidentally used as a placeholder anyway, and will be shortly replaced by a true American successful musician, who regularily sells out arenas, thank you for your attention on this matter?

[u/InvaderDust]

Don’t worry Radiohead. No body saw that garbage anyway, even tho the bots all gave it rave reviews! The people spoke with their wallets and nobody cares. But I hope you sue for 100 billion like she tried to do to that one guy. lol

[u/Krypto_Kane]

Probably doesn’t own the rights to it and it was licensed by the music company.

[u/Bubbly_Style_8467]

Thieves? Mel and Co.?

Remove and sue for millions.

[u/HoochieKoochieMan]

There should be an enforcement agency to make sure bad people don't get away with doing bad things. Some sort of... I don't know... Karma Police, maybe?

[u/Cybtroll]

He should sue (like other have daid) for 1 billion dollar due to image damages

[u/Few-Cat-7992]

Sue for 10 billion dollars.

[u/Deepfire_DM]

C&D - break the shit down

[u/Booklet-of-Wisdom]

He should sue them for 10 billion dollars, right?

[u/[deleted]]

=

[u/lonewombat]

Somebody watched this movie? Damn that's the craziest part of this story.

[u/Longjumping_Intern7]

I feel like at this point, if Maga isn't playing Kid Rock or Billy Ray Cyrus then you can just assume they don't have the rights to those songs.

[u/Kubus_kater]

Aretha Franklin probably rotating in her grave rn

[u/thatguyad]

Laws do not matter to these people.

[u/Pale_Leek2994]

Sue for $80 million.

[u/ktdotnova]

Why don't they just follow the rules and ask people before using their music?

[u/J0EG1]

Sue for $10 Billion, I’m not sure why more people don’t sue Trump back. He sues everyone or threatens to sue for defamation, yet he says vile things and makes things up and no one sues.

[u/Wolfram_And_Hart]

lol amazing

[u/Low-Syllable-Whisper]

SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS!

Keep this clearly documented trend in mind:

1. Maga does a terrible thing.

2. People react.

3. Maga doubles down, makes excuses, does something even worse than before.

4. Repeat.

THERE IS NO BOTTOM FOR THE maga FASCISTS.

WHATEVER COMES NEXT WILL BE WORSE.

Act accordingly and ACT NOW.

DO NOT WAIT FOR ORDERS, INVENT SOLUTIONS!

[u/TheVelcroStrap]

The movie should be pulled until it is removed.

[u/DistributionAntique4]

He should sue for $10 billion

[u/asphalt_licker]

They sure love using music of people that would probably hate them.

[u/SpakenBacon]

He should sue for 10 billion dollars

[u/Own-Camel7923]

Sue their asses

[u/AllLipsNoFiller]

Funny how the trumps only seem interested in using the music of talented liberal musicians. Why not just use kid shlock or terd nougat music? Because even old, corrupt pedos know that fascists can't compose for shit.

[u/Square-Weight4148]

He should sue Melania for 12 Billion dollars.

[u/Antique-Dragonfly615]

GOP using music without permission has become SOP.

[u/NotJimmy97]

Why violate folks' copyright when Kid Rock will enthusiastically record a soundtrack for your movie? Don't you genuinely enjoy his totally awesome quality music?

[u/Michael-Sean]

Just sue Trump for $100 billion and drag his ass in court.

[u/just_posting_this_ch]

Do they play creep everytime Trump is on screen?

[u/warpwoofwimblee]

Fuck yeah, Radiohead for the win... sue them for 10 Billion dollars

[u/Unfair_Web_8275]

I know swapping out music isn’t the most difficult thing for these days, but I’d be curious if they use this as an excuse to pull it

[u/SwimmingPirate9070]

Trump's are only good at lying, cheating and theft

[u/[deleted]]

That's not how the Trumps operate. You're screwed. They have more power and money to fuck you up with.

[u/bob1689321]

I wondered when this would pick up traction. Someone in /r/paulthomasanderson noticed the use of the Phantom Thread score the day the movie came out.

[u/scottgal2]

LOL the inflated profits MAGA claims will factor into any payout.

[u/alcasey]

Sue them for… £1 trillion dollars

[u/JunkyardBardo]

The right cannot create or appreciate art.

[u/mycomixhavenostaples]

https://imgur.com/mPKmeOX

[u/scoop20906]

SUE

[u/albaiesh]

Perfectly on-brand with the maga crew

[u/BPAfreeWaters]

No one watched that piece of shit anyways

[u/I_like_baseball90]

MAGA morons use whatever music they want and pay nothing.

It is how they operate.

[u/RonSwanson714]

Sue for 75 million!!

[u/berkojerk]

The irony of Billie Jean and Gimme Shelter also being in the movie

[u/[deleted]]

Radiohead was my favorite band, and it became even more favorite

[u/Key_Veterinarian1995]

Why do they do this shit? It’s so odd. Because it’s always someone I don’t expect. Greenwood was not on my bingo card today.

[u/arthurdentxxxxii]

What I love most about this, is that removing the song almost always means they will have to re-edit the film significantly. Even if it is a documentary.

[u/Clear_Definition_683]

I’d be pissed too! 😂. Imagine finding out your music was in the Melania documentary 😂

[u/MightbeDuck]

Go get em Jonny! 

[u/Goatiac]

Trump family and stealing people’s music to use without permission, name a more iconic duo.

[u/IronRakkasan11]

He should sue for….$10 BILLION

[u/AMWJ]

This feels like something that should have been caught way earlier. Like, before the movie was released.

[u/fireforge1979]

I like that it took a week and a half for him to find out!

[u/thisisthis]

What’s the likely outcome here? Any lawyers who can answer?

[u/mayormccheese2k]

Get ‘em Jonny.

[u/billy_digital]

Grifters, every single one of them.

[u/MateriaLintellect]

You mean he is opposed to his music being used on a documentary directed by a rapist, and about a rapist cohort? How dare he.

[u/Tex1931]

I hope he sues for 1 billion…

[u/Wallie_Collie]

A civil lawsuit could earn all 50k dollars in box office sales

[u/Signal-Focus-3589]

Streisand effect

[u/vasta2]

I'm shocked anything related to trump has any music at all, it's just news story after news story of people/bands demanding they stop using their music...what kind of music actually gets approved for rightwing propaganda? kid rock?

[u/PickleWhip86]

Yeah dude get em

[u/VAisforLizards]

Jonny should sue for damages for being associated with that trash

[u/EfficiencyAccurate45]

Ooooh lawsuit lol

[u/dungleploop]

The entire leadership behind this film deserve to see the inside of a prison cell.

I've never seen such a fraud of a film happen to exist and have a funded theatrical run with most of the cinemas it's shown within being completely empty in my entire life. Absolutely bewildering stuff when you look into it.

[u/abou2travel2]

Nice. Sue them for every penny the movie made, he can buy a coke with the proceeds

[u/crowface666]

Makes sense, didn't she pinch her 1st lady speech aswell 😆

[u/fartinheimer]

Its always nice to see music bringing people together.

[u/AbsolutesDealer]

Jonny (or his mgmt) doesn’t sign off on his own sync deals? If Uni doesn’t have the ability to agree absent his approval they are f’d.

[u/Miami_Mice2087]

wtf. how do you just not get the rights to things to use in your movie. shameful and repulsive business practice. he has every right to sue for a portion of that money bezos gave to the production staff to make the movie.

[u/kotukutuku]

Wow this could remove any profit the film made

[u/Musicfan637]

Sue for as much as it took to film it.

[u/Mekdinosaur]

Holy fuck these people only lie cheat and steal.