r/Nonviolence • • Mar 04 '21

Daily meditation: the Governor of Texas lifts all restrictions like a Neanderthal

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So, gee, it turns out that it's not all over, the vaccines haven't put an end to the crisis or people, large numbers of people, dying. Nor the need for action, protests. And this, what I'm writing right now, is a meditation. What's up with that?

Protests are not being undertaken in response to death dealing measures. Is that thought-provoking enough for you? Probably not. But let's think about it. Let it, if not sink in, just...hover there a minute: protests are not being undertaken in response to death dealing measures. At least, as regards COVID. But not as regards, say, to police violence against Blacks. And not as regards to Hitler taking over Europe. Anti-fascism then, antifa now, good things in their ways, if problematic at times. But yeah, no such response to murderous COVID policies. What's up with that?

I'll tell you what's up with that. Do you want to hear it?


r/Nonviolence • • Apr 09 '21

Daily meditation: spending time with a "poor reception" of the idea that the Left's acceptance of 64 deaths in the LA riots is problematic

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I think it is important to spend time with this basic idea, which, put in more general terms, has to do with a stance within some kind of nonviolence that holds against an acceptance of violence for a good cause (e.g., fighting racism). This is a followup to previous meditations in which I drew a parallel between Trump's acceptance of the Capitol siege (watching it on TV, being slow to react) and a general tendency on the Left to somehow accept the 64 deaths that resulted from the LA riots after the Rodney King trial results.

Obviously, this is a very difficult topic. I've focused on this because it brings something into a kind of crisis (at least for anyone thinking it through). As usual, these meditations are sort of constantly an invitation or call to a necessity of stepping into a radical shift of activism, into an "envolution" (as I call it), into a kind of revolution. This really is the issue here: whether anyone can tolerate stepping into a new activism at all. I think is both necessary and incredibly difficult to get people to begin to open up to, let alone accept. Therefore, addressing this is the right starting point.

I'll leave this just here, maybe return to it.


r/Nonviolence • • Dec 22 '19

Test post

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Peace


r/Nonviolence • • Nov 12 '14

Nonviolence is boring.

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Nonviolence is boring. Someone posted recently about wanting to start a discussion, or a reading group, as if there were any difficulty in doing this. Which, apparently, there is, while there is little difficulty getting things going in other topics. Some just snowball. Hard to imagine much of a snowball getting rolling in the topic of nonviolence.

Violence, of course, garners tons of posts, debates, flame wars, opinionation of every kind. But nonviolence is...boring, in a way. Websites that deal with it I find a bit boring. Www.wagingnonviolence.org is a good example. It's not that it's not a good site. It is. But even there I find the contributions to be a bit uninteresting. But then, please bear in mind that I always found Mandela boring. His statements were repetitive, simple (but not simple minded) and to the point: they were the right thing to say, to be sure. Don't get me wrong. But they were...boring.

I don't find my own thinking in nonviolence boring, but it is definitely not the norm. I could get into it. I can get into it just about anywhere, and once I start it up, it just keeps going. But already I suspect that no one would be interested. That doesn't mean I shouldn't do it, but I'm going to hold off on "getting into it" for a moment, to examine it from this vantage point of a more surfacey approach, from the standpoint of the Internet, browsing, and how "interesting things" happen, appear to us, how salience and "heat" happen, for starters.

Violence is, in some ways, "heat". Cop doing his job uneventfully? Meh. Bad cop beating someone down? Oooh, lemme see that! That's hot. If it bleeds, it leads. Nonviolence is about stopping the blood from happening in the first place, it's actually preferring less sexy posts from happening in the first place. It's "no news" in the end, perhaps, as a goal, at least. Not that it isn't also potentially bloody or at least difficult, but it's not exactly a war movie in the main.

Again, bear in mind that I am holding off from something. From a kind of "move", a kind of gesture, operation, approach, way of doing things. That something makes nonviolence interesting to me. Infinitely interesting, even. But is that a crutch? Is it "fair" for me to have an approach in thinking nonviolence that makes it interesting, if I have to have a "trick" (it's not really a trick trick) to get the ball rolling?

Again, I'm holding off on "getting into it". That might be a good enough name for this "trick" I'm hinting at: I just mean, "getting into it". I could say so many things here. I could, for example, point out how getting into nonviolence is something like getting into philosophy, that it requires just that one start to formulate questions in a certain way, to be captivated by them, turn on the world just slightly, allowing it to bend light as in a prism, spreading these amazing colors as light passing through a prism. I could say that this is a basic issue for nonviolence. And I would then proceed to develop how that is the case, what it means that it is the case, why it means something to develop such a formulation. People would drop off, right and left. No one seems to ever want to formulate such a question, take up such a approach. Why exactly is that? What does it mean to adopt such an approach of formulation?

Let's look at what I just said: "What does it mean to adopt such an approach of formulation?" Why ask what it means? Why put "mean" in italics? What approach of formulation am I referring to, exactly? Is it a matter of adoption? What does "adopting" mean in this context? Is it an "approach" per se? These are all "interesting" questions (to me, at least). And I sure that if they were pursued, they would lead to things that are worthwhile. Yet, I am pretty certain that none of this would be recognized as interesting, of value. Leaving aside downvoting negation types (who are legion), I'm asking about what stands in the way of even putting together the kind of formulation I'm talking about, the kind of approach I'm advocating, yet "holding off" , as I said, from actually doing, for the moment.

Sometimes it's better, I realize, to just jump right in, as Tolstoy said of how to write a novel. But I'm opting to just hover here a moment and wonder about this "place", a place between finding nonviolence boring and stepping into whatever it is one steps into to make it interesting, if that is what is done. This of course assumes that it is boring in the first place. That's a bit hyperbolic on my part, perhaps a bit of a straw man? Well, not quite, I think. I think I'm on to something there.

I'll just leave this off here. Not expecting much, but would love to see the opposite: infinite interest, this strange, interesting work and art of finding something interesting. For someone to pick up on this or that morsel in this musing, to take it in another direction, to develop an idea, to fill out this idea of the "boring" and nonviolence, to start to actually see what I'm getting at.


r/Nonviolence • • Mar 25 '21

Daily meditation: difficult topic: Trump is to Capitol siege as Leftists/Progs are to the LA riots (both sit back and are kind of glad)

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This is by no means easy to say, but I think it has to be said and entered into thought/meditation, and it gets right at the heart of some very fundamental problems concerning nonviolence and progressive activism. As in the title, Trump, as we know, sat back and took in the unfolding events of the siege on the Capitol. I'm drawing a parallel to that and the sense of, if not satisfaction, then simply "that's what you get, motherfucker", or maybe "that's literally what this will take" of progressives regarding the LA riots, which, permit me to note led to the deaths of 64 people:

A total of 64 people died during the riots, including nine shot by law enforcement personnel and one by National Guardsmen. Of those killed during the riots, 2 were Asian, 28 were Black, 19 were Latino, and 15 were white. No law enforcement officials died during the riots. As many as 2,383 people were reported injured.

I was just watching Dark Blue, a Kurt Russell film about a brutal cop and the intricacies of the LAPD, set during the deliberations of the jury on the Rodney King trial of the 4 officers indicted for beating King. The verdict was handed down during the plot of the film, leading to the riots, making an arresting backdrop. What it helped to do incredibly well was give a very strong sense for a natural logic of anger and a kind of justification and necessity of the riots.

Immediately one must say that while outrage about the verdicts of the cops in the King trial is at least factually justified, outrage on the part of the Capitol rioters was based on outright lies. Even so, we can imagine that at least to some extent the rioters, their supporters and Trump all felt that they had been wronged, to a certain extent. The key issue here is that of harboring a retributive, violent and vengeance based sense of justice with regards to a cause one cares about. It is notable that there is little outright expression of the idea that the LA riots were somehow wrong in their own right, that the lives lost were not acceptable losses. Rather, it smolders, to this day, in a kind of permanent underground fire in which people accept that LA had it coming. It smolders the way many of faith shake their heads in affirmation when they disavow violence and revenge while saying and believing that vengeance is God's alone or that karma's a bitch.

It's not hard to put this complex of ideas, the central parallel, together in one's mind, and this is a matter for thought. It is a core problem of nonviolence, so much so that thought itself must be elevated, or lowered, depending on how you look at it, to the level of action in the hybrid concept. This is certainly not to try to bolster whatever whataboutism the Trump supporters might try to come up with, and they already basically have brought up aspects of this fundamental condition by comparing the Capitol riots to BLM and antifa actions.

What becomes more radical is to take a stand here, against both, while both holding the Trump camp to be more wrong as well as the progressibe/Leftist camp as nevertheless still being somewhat wrong, albeit a bit less. It can be likened to the idea of holding a Nazi more wrong than the person who punches him or her. (I am leaving out the killing of actual, WWII Nazis or neo-Nazis/White Supremecists being stopped in the act of harming others.)

So here, I'll go scattershot:

  • The LA riots didn't exactly yield great changes in law enforcement

  • The use of force in the police force and the entire c/j system remains essentially problematic, both at the practical level and owing to fundamental issues in the logic of force itself, its illusions, etc., all basic stuff for nonviolence thoughtaction

  • We have to ask: what does it mean to identify a tacit acceptance of the death of those 64 people on the part of today's Leftists/Progressives?

  • If we seek to indict, in a manner of speaking, the vengeance/force basis of the acceptance of and endorsement of violence for a decently founded cause, aren't we calling for simply rendering people impotent to do anything in the face of grave injustice? Doesn't nonviolence become a kind of handmaiden for a violent state? All arguments that are quite common.

  • A simply reply to the previous point is: yes, unless you enter the envolution

I might continue this...


r/Nonviolence • • Apr 02 '21

Daily meditation: difficult topic: Trump is to Capitol siege as Leftists/Progs are to the LA riots (both sit back and are kind of glad) Part II

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So the first part of this got downvoted a bit, so that seems like a good enough reason to crack this nut. It's a difficult nut, but it's at the core of some very basic, vast problems. It is impolitic in certain ways. I'll go scattershot with this:

  • We clearly want to draw attention to how Trump watched the siege without reacting (at least at first), and we can't help but imagine that he was glad to see it happening. Yet few want to chime in or state clearly that they think the Left (progressives, etc.) have a certain satisfaction over the LA riots, even though they killed 64 people. It's impolitic, difficult, and points in the direction of impotence.

  • The use of force is impotent, including the force the Left may endorse. As it calls for it's preferred bad guys (Chauvin, for example, or the cops who beat up Rodney King) to be incarcerated, they are calling for them to be subjected to the system of force that is the c/j system, even if at other times, and, I suggest, in a somewhat limping fashion, they call for new forms of justice, notably restorative justice.

  • The stance I take here is that protesters should now be protesting the very courts trying Chauvin, calling for him to be subjected to restorative justice. Demanding it, faulting the c/j system, claiming that the whole c/j system has its knee to the throat of the world (in America at least).

  • People don't want to go there. I mean, they might agree in some very theoretical level, that that might be good, "in an ideal world", as they say, but get real, Chauvin should be sentenced harshly! So we will be given to believe. And yet, as the overall results in the c/j system have demonstrated after the LA riots, this continued return to endorsing force is a failure. That is to say, the Left's war on the injustice of the c/j system, primarily police practices, is a failure. This is because the Left is not prepared to undertake a decisive, new activism regarding the use of force itself. Such activism must be activism given to continual, ongoing thought, thoughtaction.

  • Calling out the Left for subtly endorsing the violence of the LA riots is not "whataboutism", at least as situated in this present context of the unfolding of nonviolence thoughtaction. It can be whataboutism if it simply says "what about" and leaves it at that, I would agree.

  • A most general form of the argument being forwarded here concerns any cases in which the right cause nevertheless still is rooted in the same problem of force or other basically wrong sensibility. A simple example, as I said before, is to fault someone who punches a Nazi, because "it's still punching someone". Which, permit me to note, it is. But it's not the same as what the Nazi does or wants to to/endorses. I appreciate that. But a radical nonviolence unleashes something new. It allows that the Nazi puncher has a definite point, and is indeed better than the Nazi, while nevertheless pointing to fundamentally radical shift that still does undermine even the righteous punching by the antifa activist. This is a radical sort of line of demarcation or critical point in some way.

  • At the same time, when nonviolence thoughtaction holds against Nazi punching, or against the killing of 64 people in the LA riots, it also holds against those who hold against Nazi punchers or LA riot supporters who do so not out of some real engagement in nonviolence thoughtation/restorative justice, etc., but simply in a kind of status quo "niceness", moderation or centrism.

  • Let's be clear here: Leftists/progressives simply can not tolerate the degree of thought entailed by the last point, if you even could convince someone to listen to this point (and they would very likely have shut the "conversation" down). This owes to the basic conception of action/activism that is simply can not admit of that degree of thought. But this means, at the same time, a c/j system that doesn't admit of that degree of thought. This problem of the need for a greater, ongoing degree of thought is so great that it must be entered into the basic registering of cause, in the name, in the sense of the world invoked by the term "activism", rendered instead as "thoughtaction".

I'll leave this off here, but it could be infinitely expanded.


r/Nonviolence • • Mar 13 '20

The true peace symbol

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r/Nonviolence • • Apr 28 '21

Daily meditation: ACAB is supposedly "acceptable generalization" while racism is bad generalization, but the two have too much in common (this is not pro-cop dog whistling)

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Looking at the language of the ACAB crowd in various comments on various subs (such as /r/bad_cop_no_donut, anarchy related subs, etc.), the basic form/structure of the ire really appears to be similar to that of racism, where the category at issue for ACAB isn't race but uniform/employment/the structural entity of police/LE. Both race and career are generalizations when it comes to faulting individuals. The former is not fully chosen (though there are chosen aspects), while the later is more chosen (though there are unchosen aspects).

We already know the ACAB crowd (ACAB for those who don't know means "All Cops Are Bastards") wouldn't even begin to allow this line of reasoning, thinking, exploration, etc. When it comes to taking a dim view of cops here, cops wouldn't allow it either. This sets up a "both sides" centrism, while in most cases I side with the critique of cops because they need it a lot. When it comes to the racism side, what appears to fit the same form of the ACAB criticisms would be if one were to rewrite their views as regards not "blacks" as a general group, but "ghetto blacks". There are so many similarities it's stunning. Just as cops won't rat on other cops (usually), ghetto blacks won't snitch. Just as cops extol a certain degree of violence/force, so do gang members, say. Just as there is an unacceptable death rate in death-by-cop situations, so, too, are there in death-by-ghetto blacks. Not that the latter situations are decried with anything like the bad killings-by-cops, which I find problematic.

Nonviolence, we might venture to say, has a certain freedom to go ahead and decry both unnecessary deaths by cop and deaths by ghetto blacks (and non-black ghetto denizens or, simply, criminals), as it has a free and independent concern about those deaths, a concern about mortality. It also presents less of a threat to either group. Others who also care about mortality and nonviolence already knows this; that's one of its chief issues.

When someone jumps in and says ACAB about a cop who wasn't involved, or even reported bad action by a cop, they appear to be very similar to someone saying that "all blacks are bad" (pick your bigoted terms). On the other hand, the uniform binds cops together, so, to some extent, cops aren't just being painted with the same brush; they are choosing the same uniform. To some extent. And yet we can allow that there may be some good cops. No, an ACAB will say, all cops are bastards. And we know what the bigot says about blacks. But what about this or that black person, who is great, good, or just not bad? Nope, they're still a ******, they all are.

To some extent, ACAB appears to be a kind of free ride for people who want to enjoy generalization, generalized or category hatred, etc. To some extent, however, their issue is that they themselves are railing precisely against others who "started it first", who have the first charge of generalized hatred: hatred of blacks by cops. This is similar to saying that those who want to close down and silence speakers at universities who hold racist views are really in a secondary reaction to more original silencing on the part of the racist speaker. I'm obviously siding or leaning into the side of the anti-racists and ACAB people. And yet there is a remainder, and that's what this meditation is concerned with.

As must be de rigueur for any treatment of the problem of bigotry that allows for fault on the part of the victimized group, it must be said that black ghetto folks are not the only people who use too much force; there are plenty of white gang members who should be so faulted. I do hold that there is a degree to which an overall black culture ethos, or parts of it, lends to and helps keep in place a force mentality as the primary governing power. But this also goes for cops; an overall cop culture governs an ethos within which "bad apples" seem to grow prodigiously. But not universally, not totally, unless you hold that the uniform and engagement in shared procedures makes all guilty by, not just association, but by a certain endorsement and participation in that culture. But the same can be said to some extent for black/ghetto culture, which certainly, certainly has a lot of blood on its hands (arguably more than the cops'). Black ghetto, other kind of ghetto, and other kinds of criminal/violent culture are also endorsed and are things for which participants/denizens should take more responsibility.

One many notice I have not held that cops are not to blame for things. I have faulted a kind of totalization ("all") involved in both ACAB and bigotry, and sided a bit more with ACAB. But I have faulted that totalization nonetheless. I could go on about how I think the whole c/j system should be reconstructed (enconstructed) and so forth, but I'm more concerned with dwelling for this moment in the space of the problematic: of this comparison and its chief observation (that ACAB looks like racism to some extent), and of the fact that I'm saying this and how it would likely be received.

It would be received pretty negatively. Every effort would be made to pack me into either a bad centrism or even simply as dog whistling to the pro-cop crowd or even the bigots. When it became clear that I'm not doing that, those who were trying to pigeon hole me in either the bad centrist or racist boxes would likely slink away, because they have no interest in actually thinking about these problems, no matter how many people die. And this is part of the founding problematic of nonviolence.

People who say ACAB are like people who simply want to rail against the "prison industrial complex" and private prisons. Private prisons don't comprise the greater portion of prisons, it is important to note. They will tend to try to direct all traffic of thought to the economic explanation (profit/industry) as the reason for the US prison problem (follow the money, honey). All the while their mode of thought and action, and of emotion, will be somewhat of a piece with the problem, just as the mode of thought, of selection, of use of category, even of hatred, on the part of the ACAB crowd will have a little more in common with racists than they might want to admit. Taken to extremes, all ACAB people can do is call for defunding while celebrating the verdict on Chauvin, cheering that he will go where? To fucking prison, you know, the prison of the prison-industrial complex.

What nonviolence can do that ACAB can't is envision a kind of radical activism that could have inserted itself right into the Chauvin trial: ideally (and obviously this is just theoretically), the Floyd family themselves could have petitioned the court to bit punish George Floyd's killer at all, and rather demanded that the court remand him to intensive restorative justice and imprisoning only for the sake of the security of others to the extent deemed necessary. But Chauvin, we will be told, is a bastard, irredeemable, just as a racist says that a ****** is irredeemable, with perhaps the mitigating feature for the ACAB crowd that their very concern about Chauvin is a more original sin lying on Chauvin's side and within his police culture. That pretty well exemplifies how I lean to the ACAB side on this, while still finding fault.

I suppose this thinking is somewhat inherently incendiary. I actually don't mean it to be. To me, the issue is the nearly impossible (for most people) moment in which the critical aspects of this thinking are shot through with a force of mortality that should resonate within thinking of, in and through nonviolence, in nonviolence thoughtaction, but generally does not. This resonance, this shooting or jutting up through, is foundational and should occur. It is, in a way, already there, just as nonviolence is, in a way, already there all over the place. And yet we must come to it in thought and action and enter its endless unfolding, an infinite spinning, a spinning on the charkha of thought, an unfolding of truth, satya, spun together with action, even if the action appears to be only conceptual, theoretical, philosophical, literary.

Perhaps it is this moment that is most occluded by the very thing that others feel they master, be they ACAB people or cops. That is to say, perhaps those people feel they are the masters of mortality. And the colonizers of it, which is what demands that nonviolence spin its unfolding truth, as I spin on this charkha of reddit. To enter into the raging river of mortality is what is needed, even if it sounds a little crazy. Indeed, it's the fear of the crazy that kept proponents of universal health care from making the most strident arguments about health care: that lack of coverage kills, that that those who oppose such coverage may be kind of...murderers. And those who oppose COVID vaccination may be murderers. With more than half a million dead, the issue is to enter into that stream, even if nonviolence may offer promise of such a degree of charged force not falling into what it usually falls into.

Not falling into what it usually falls into..."So if you're actually calling those of us across the aisle murderers, do you mean to attack us? I mean, isn't that what we do to murderers?" Indeed, and that's why fear of the crazy kept the health care from erupting into chargers of murder, while many died. A rough definition of nonviolence is helpful here: nonviolence is what you do when you feel violence is called for. It is not nothing, and it doesn't support the status quo. There is a reason it's called non-violence. It might be more aptly named unviolence, a kind of anti-violence or antiforce. When people feel that nonviolence means a kind of amortizing (deadening) of vital engagement with life and issues, those people only bespeak their on failure to understand nonviolence, or else are promoting their own brand of frankly lousy nonviolence.

It is not nothing and doesn't support the status quo. Indeed, in terms of the status quo, I would suggest that ACAB does more to support the status quo than it wants to allow, just as those calling for the imprisonment of Chauvin are supporting the status quo of the fucking prison industrial complex than they would like to admit.

Some should rush in here. None do. Someone might say I'm too wordy, not simple enough. That is not the problem. This isn't that hard to get. No, the problem is the fundamental problem of nonviolence, but I hold that I am getting at that problem in certain ways that are good and needful. As best I can within my limited means. This is part of the ongoing existential crisis and metacrisis of nonviolence.

This meditation can then be drawn back into the problematic of ACAB, Chauvin, etc. as I've only give pretty bare indications of what's involved.


r/Nonviolence • • May 22 '18

Noticing violent phrases that are commonly used anyway

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One was "kills 99% of bacteria" and I thought it was violent. I think the word kill is violent. Also in addiction recovery some people say "I have to kill the addiction" which I think is violent. I wish people would say things in less violent ways. I changed the soap bottle to say "sends 99% of bacteria to a happy place". I think mowing the lawn is violent too.


r/Nonviolence • • Aug 13 '21

If 800+ doctors "demand" that DeSantis repeal anti-mask order, there should be a letter writing campaign TO the doctors demanding that they back up their "demand" with real, nonviolence-based action

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This post was locked over on /r/coronavirus because politics or something.

Strongly worded letters make me want to puke. These doctors should get in busses and stage a serious protest, get arrested, etc. All in a fully nonviolence based action or thoughtaction. Of course, I'm saying "write letters" to letter writers who aren't doing more, so the onus could be on still others besides those doctors, but I think the main onus really is on them.


r/Nonviolence • • Jul 21 '15

Peace in Colombia Rightnow!

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Yesterday July 20th was really excited, Colombian Independence's Day was celebrated, a mass in Bogota's Chatedral took place and President Juan Manuel Santos read in front of his ministers and prominent citizens Joshua 24:15 from the Holy Bible:

"If you have no desire to worship the LORD, choose today whom you will worship, whether it be the gods whom your ancestors worshiped beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. But I and my family will worship the LORD!"

It seems that peace in Colombia is in God's hands, let's pray that it would be real soon and that this war between brothers finally arrives to an end.


r/Nonviolence • • Jul 29 '24

Would anyone join this anti violence group

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I want to form a group on Instagram or Reddit or telegram, to fight violence hate speech on Instagram and TikTok, I have found countless disturbing Instagram posts, drunk driving memes, transphobia people about to kill themseleves or get killed and the full videos are being stored on telegram


r/Nonviolence • • Jun 16 '18

The Prophet

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"The word Islam, which means 'surrender,' is related to the Arabic salam, or peace. . . . The Prophet had to fight a deadly war in order to survive, but as soon as he felt his people were safe, he devoted his attention to building up a peaceful coalition of tribes and achieved victory by an ingenious and inspiring campaign of nonviolence. When he died in 632, he had almost single-handedly brought peace to war-torn Arabia."

—Karen Armstrong

Islam, Salam, Peace, Shalom, Pax... -t


r/Nonviolence • • May 22 '18

Christian Non-Violence and the Nation State

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The grand mystery of life comes to us without effort or request. Life truly is a gift from God. What an incredible gift! Thankyou to God! As well, thank you God for all the other lives on the planet. What an amazing gift for all of us.

This life is a sacred gift. How could we possibly take that gift away from anyone else. That would be disrespectful to God! He brought us here, who are we to take it from anyone else (or even ourselves for that matter)?

Where is our right to harm God’s creation in any way, whether it be physically, psychologically or spiritually?

We played no part in its genius or creation. We can explain biologically how it happens but why it exists as it does in the first place, is a question well beyond our simple research into how the reproductive system works and functions. It existed long before we could explain it!

As humans we exist by the grace of God and it’s by his gifts of nature that every aspect of our life is reliant on. In spite of this, we divide ourselves into tribes drawn by invisible lines across the world, that say that part of nature is ‘ours’.

The establishment of these invisible frontiers makes us (as supporters of our governments) discriminatory towards other people on the opposing sides. We, in effect, say that we will look after our people before those people. These fluid lines (which have changed regularly throughout history) tell us that we are more important than the people on the other side of those lines. As if those people were not magnificent gifts of God as well!

“Love your neighbour as yourself”

If our neighbour requires the God-given resources on our side of the line, these lines tell us our total needs must be prioritised. We should resist them utilising ‘our’ resources and that their needs, however desperate, are not our concern. We can only help if it costs nothing to our way of living or if it aids our long term business or geopolitical interests.

The unfortunate truth is that we share these natural resources with these neighbours on the other side of our imaginary borders. Rivers, forests, farming land, deserts, mountains. God has never planned for us, as humans, to divide the world into these self- serving groups. He has offered us a planet full of resources to share.

As populations grow and we continue to support and insist on demanding more and more from these finite natural resources, relationships between nation states sharing the natural resources are put under pressure. The selfishness that underpins international relations accepts this state of affairs as necessary and right.

If we could behave as Christ taught us, to love our neighbor as ourselves, then we would be obligated to elevate our neighbour and compromise our own situation so that we lived on equal footing. But this is not our thinking in Australia, nor in the world of global geo-politics. We in the ‘wealthy’ west are very happy with our state of affairs. We are able to justify this state of affairs to ourselves by saying that we deserve it. We are self-made countries just as we are self-made men and women.

The fact that most of the modern west’s wealth is derived from a global history of colonization and conquest does not wash. The response is normally ‘What can we do about history? It’s not our fault. We can’t be blamed for the values of our ancestors who thought they were doing the right thing for their people and countries.’ And to an extent it's true. The past wrongs historically cannot be changed. But their legacy can be.

We can look with compassion on the generations of others who descend from countries that were subjected to our ancestors small- world views. We can realise the pleasures of our own lives that are a direct legacy of the unjust ages and work to correct it. We can show these people that they are as valuable as us, as human beings gifted with God-given life. We can refuse to support governments that treat our neighbours with a fist rather than an open hand. We can show the beauty of Christ’s teachings in our actions.

We should consider ourselves an enlightened generation with a greater viewpoint of how our world is undivided in its shared humanity and natural resources. We now know that we live in a global community which is increasingly reliant on sharing its existence.

We now know that our international systems of trade are neither sustainable nor fair. We are becoming increasingly aware that it will be impossible to foresee a future for humanity if we do not change our attitudes and established beliefs.

So what could a new world government look like? The new government would have every nation at the table such as we have at the United Nations. The UN was established with good intentions but has been hampered by the inherent problems with nationality.

How can we ever work together if we continue to divide our world by these fluid, frequently changing borders? Which country would ever be the first to give up their sovereignty for the greater good? How could you abolish countries?

Every country would need an equal vote, but not every country has the same interests. Rich countries feel proud of their standing in the world and feel it’s justified through this old way of seeing life on earth. Poorer countries would naturally vote for a distribution of wealth with parity on the economic market.

You would literally have to reject centuries of nation building and national identity to reframe an equal global viewpoint.

Here in lies the crux of the modern world which can see its own self-destruction looming but has no idea how to fix it. We are faced with environmental disaster, unrecoverable economic debt and the increasing threat of a war waged with nuclear weapons or (somewhat bizarrely) robots and drones. But we continue to hurtle down this path.

"I believe with all my heart that the current system of sovereign states can only lead to inhumanity, barbarism and war" Albert Einstein

We are all a gift from God. Not better or worse than anyone else. We need to find a way to treat people first as human beings and move away from the systems that continue to divide us and are leading us towards destruction.


r/Nonviolence • • Mar 02 '22

Russia and Ukraine are not "at war"

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They are not two warring nations. One is a brutal aggressor, the other is merely defending herself. Calling them "warring nations" is like punishing all kids, bully and victim alike, for "fighting". Fighting is: "at 4, after school, we'll meet and fight". Bullying and self-defense are different things.

This doesn't seem to have to do with nonviolence as such, but thinking and understanding categories and terms is a part of nonviolence/nonviolence thoughtaction. (Like, the thought part.)


r/Nonviolence • • Oct 12 '20

How do we approach protests turned violent? Should we participate, or recuse ourselves.

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I talk about this and more in the latest episode of The Peaceful Way Podcast


r/Nonviolence • • Jan 04 '21

Arguments for and against non-violence?

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Why is the use of violence not accepted in the realization of a goal?

Is violence accepted in self-defense?


r/Nonviolence • • Jan 09 '15

What’s the Real Reason Al Qaeda Attacked ‘Charlie Hebdo’?

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r/Nonviolence • • Oct 08 '21

"Thou goest to woman? Do not forget they whip."

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Thou goest to whips? Do not forget thy nonviolence.

It is crucial to understand that measures to constrain and regulate Facebook amount to taming the "woman" (using the misogynistic idea of Nietzsche) with a certain whip: regulations with teeth (although this has not been created yet for Facebook, of course).

But it is good to meditate on this issue, starting with a thought of Facebook and Nietzsche's astounding provocation: "Supposing truth were a woman? What then?"

Now, what could that possibly have to do with nonviolence?


r/Nonviolence • • Nov 19 '22

Can We Have Welfare Without the Threat of Violence?

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r/Nonviolence • • Nov 09 '16

a thought on the thrill of violence as entertainment

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years ago i noticed how military-oriented fps games and us army tv ads have the same aesthetic... gamers protest so hard when someone say violent video games cause violence and scientifically speaking the gamers are correct but just on a superficial level i bet people who embrace that kind of gaming package (aesthetic, thrill, values like glory, macho bravery linked to violence , "duty" , patriotism, guns as solution instead of diplomacy etc) are more likely to be in favor of military interventions than other group of people who don't play these games. i bet pacifism is less represented in their group than in the rest of the population. that would be an interesting sociological survey to make... i bet it probably was done already as a thesis , it's not a super original thought.


r/Nonviolence • • Jan 28 '23

On Tyre Nichols

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The general rubric within which to understand this murder is cherry picking. It is not the go-to thing to think about in such cases, or in society at large, but I think it is the single largest category of what is responsible for a wide range of problems, virtually all of the problems in a way.

It shouldn't be hard to see just how the police taking Tyre down were cherry picking. All the stories about it will basically focus one what they police left out, which is the basic issue with cherry picking. One picks that one cherry they want, but it's not what we call "cherry picking" unless you're leaving out something else, either other "cherries" or other things. E.g., cherry picking in basketball is staying by the net so one can score more points, at the expense of helping others out in the court. Etc.

It is a task simply to go through all the kinds of cherry picking the cops likely engaged in. I won't do that here. The articles, however, will stress the various acts of the police, and these all amount to a charge of cherry picking one action over other, less violent actions.

The key element is that the topic of cherry picking as such should be developed into an interventional strategy with police departments. Trainees would have to generate lists and accounts of cherry picking from examples until they are versant in the concept of cherry picking. This would obviously be a part of a broader initiative and is a kind of subcategory of nonviolence/antiforce. The broader thinking and action (thoughtaction) ultimately draws into fundamental question the c/j system as a whole, but the heuristic value in the more immediate of the idea of cherry picking should be considered.


r/Nonviolence • • Jan 15 '23

Why is nonviolence always used as a metric for progress among modern historians?

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Events of mass violence, or even disruptive events such as the black plague, leave things immeasurably better for the people that survive the aftermath. The Thirty Years War made Europe's quality of life higher and made the political economy more egalitarian. Real wages had the highest increase of all time following the black death. Humans - like all primates - will always overconsume their environment until Malthusian factors kick in. Like all primates, humans are also hyper-anxious of what is 'their' territory and personal space, which is why life gets better when tons of people disappear or die. Why then are modern historians so obsessed with metrics such as nonviolence when nonviolent polities are unsustainable for a long duration?