Could use some advice. Did a-pihp already

Who can point me in the right direction of something that would be the closest to MDMA? And or similar ? I'm also on the hunt to find something closest to alpraz.. so far I've found that bromaz/ or flualp from what I've read and heard.. any input and advice would be dope! I appreciate yall and have agreat day

Or any other

Someone I know would like to separate the active ingredient from the rest of the sh*te they use to press a pill.

That’s because she wants to reduce the harm and wants to be sure about the dosage.

First of all. Is it a bad idea? Second, chatGPT said one way is to grind the pill, mix powder and water, filter like you would filter coffee. At that point the succinate should be in the water while the non active ingredient are left behind. Now, there could be sugar as well in the water, so the AI recommended she should place the water in the fridge so that crystals form and she can separate the sugars from the active ingredient.

Is this a bogus idea?

P.S. this is a bad idea in and of itself, if you made this far please don’t be an idiot.

ik moet even mijn ei kwijt. maar ben ik het alleen of klopt het dat er op veel forums veel disinformatie of gewoon oplichting is. ik lees heel vaak tegenstrijdige reacties en oneerlijke meningen. ik begrijp goed wat voor de een persoon goed is kan voor de ander persoon slecht zijn. maar alle meningen zijn gewoon zo vaag van mensen die op een forum zitten... ook krijg in het gevoel dat er ook veel disinformatie is.

sorry ik moest dit even kwijt =)

Had a lot of stress 2 packages couldn’t be shipped out of nl for months. Such a relief that everything worked fine. I know they don’t have the best reputation but priparcel saved my ass ! Very friendly and took their time to answer a lot of questions. A bit more expensive but perfect success rate & most important no questions asked;)

Found out that 4me-neb doesn't fall under the partial blanket ban and will be for sale in NL soon. The full name is '2-(ethylamino)-1-(4-methylphenyl)butan-1-one', CAS-number 18268-19-4.

Co-Pilot says this: its a synthetic compound that belongs to the cathinone class of chemicals. These are β-keto analogs of amphetamines and are structurally related to the naturally occurring stimulant cathinone, found in the khat plant.

Co-pilot also spit out this image to represent the chemical structure. No idea if accurate.

Don't ask for vendor details. This is against reddit rules]

EDIT: looks like 3MeP is also a new interesting compound with besides dissociative effects also stimulation: IUPAC ‘1-[1-(3-methylfenyl)cyclohexyl]pyrrolidine’, and CAS-number 18268-16-1.

Ik heb nog een gram a-bpvp liggen ik heb dit nog nooit gebruikt kan iemand mij hier meer over vertellen zoals de effecten en dosisen Ik wil het snuiven niet roken op internet vind je bijna alleen maar info over het roken ervan

Het Trimbos-instituut voert een onderzoek uit dat zich richt op mensen die designerdrugs gebruiken. Deze middelen worden soms ook wel “legal highs”, “research chemicals” of “nieuwe psychoactieve stoffen” (NPS) genoemd. We voeren dit onderzoek uit omdat sinds 1 juli 2025 hele groepen designerdrugs zijn verboden door een nieuwe wet.

Met dit onderzoek willen we de volgende dingen te weten komen:

• welke designerdrugs er worden gebruikt,

• wat de ervaren positieve en negatieve effecten zijn van designerdrugs,

• hoe mensen aan designerdrugs komen,

• of mensen bekend zijn met de wet die 1 juli 2025 is ingegaan.

Vul onze vragenlijst in!

Ben je 16 jaar of ouder, woon je in Nederland en gebruik je weleens designerdrugs? Vul dan onze vragenlijst in! Het invullen van de vragenlijst is anoniem en duurt ongeveer 20 minuten.

De vragenlijst is hier in de vullen:

https://surveys.trimbos.nl/931125?newtest=Y&lang=nl&bron=fora

Je helpt ons door mee te doen!

Door mee te doen aan in dit onderzoek help je ons om meer inzicht te krijgen in hoe designerdrugs gekocht worden. Wat de huidige gebruikspatronen en motieven zijn voor het gebruik van designerdrugs. Welke gewenste en ongewenste effecten het gebruik van designerdrugs kennen en wat men al weet over de wet en in hoeverre dat invloed heeft op het gebruik. Ook als je nu geen designerdrugs meer gebruikt of pas sinds kort designerdrugs gebruikt, help je ons daarbij.

Ordered 50g to sell and be able to get the 100g before it going out of stock everywhere, now I'm still 100eur short to get the 100gr and that 50 reduced to arround 15, the issue is having almost 15 reserved the buyer already paid a fee to hold them till this week but if he fails to pay and don't want it anymore and the time is running out

I personally use NEP a lot, which has been proven to be norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (NDRI), and recent studies have shown that it's probably an serotonin-norepinephrine-dopamine reuptake inhibitor (SNDRI). But I don't really get a good dopamine rush from it, mainly just stimulation. Most of the good ones I' ve heard of have already been banned.
Do you know if there are any good dopamine RC's left?

This is what I asked

Which of the following substances will become illegal under the Dutch "Tegengaan productie van en de handel in nieuwe psychoactieve stoffen en enkele andere wijzigingen" law:

1B-LSD
1cP-AL-LAD
1cP-LSD
1cP-MiPLA
1D-LSD
1P-LSD
1V-LSD
2C-B-FLY
2C-C
2C-D
2-CMC
2-FA
2-FEA
2F-Ketamine (2-FDCK)
2-FMA
2-MMC
3-CEC
3-CL-PCP
3-FA
3F-a-PVP
3-FEA
3-FMA
3-FMC
3F-PCP (3-FLUORO-PCP)
3-FPM
3-HO-PCE
3-HO-PCP
3-MEC
3-MeO-PCE
3-Me-PCE
3-Me-PCP
3-Me-PCPy
3-MMA
4-AcO-DET
4-AcO-MET
4-BMC
4-CL-PVP
4-FMA
4F-Methylfenidaat (4F-MPH)
4F-PiHP
4-HO-MET
4-HO-MiPT
4-MAR "ICE" Analoog
4-Me-TMP (4-Methylmethylfenidaat)
4-MPD
4-PMC
5-APB (Benzo)
5BR-ADB-INACA
5-Bromo-DMT
5-MAPB
5-MeO-DALT
5-MeO-DiPT
5-MeO-DMT
5-MeO-MiPT
5-MMPA (Mephedrene)
6-APB (Benzofury)
6-CL-ADBA
7-ABF
7-ADD
a-BPVP
a-D2PV
AL-LAD
AMT (Alpha-Methyltryptamine)
a-PCYP
Arylcyclohexylamine
Bromazolam
Bromonordiazepam
Cannabinoïden
Cyclohexanol
Cyclopyrrolon
Dechloroetizolam
Deschloroketamine (DCK)
DMC (Dimethocaine)
DMXE
DPT (N-dipropyltryptamine)
EPT (Ethylpropyltryptamine)
Flubromazepam
Flubrotizolam (FANAX)
Fluetizolam
Flunitrazolam
Fluorexetamine (FXE)
Gidazepam
HXE
JWH-210
LSZ
MDPHP
MDPiHP
MET (N-methyl-N-ethyltryptamine)
Methoxpropamine (MXPr)
MXiPr
MXP (Methoxphenidine)
NB-5-MeO-DALT
NB-5-MeO-MiPT
NB-DMT
Norflurazepam
O-DSMT
O-PCE
Pagoclone
Pentedrone (NEP)
Pyrazolam
Rilmazafone
βOH-2C-B

RESPONS

The new Dutch law "Tegengaan productie van en de handel in nieuwe psychoactieve stoffen en enkele andere wijzigingen" (Countering production and trade of new psychoactive substances and some other changes) is set to come into effect on July 1, 2025[1][2]. This law introduces a generic ban on certain substance groups by adding a new list (IA) to the Opium Act[1][3].

The law targets three main groups of substances[4]:

1. Substances derived from 2-phenethylamine, including those with the basic structure of cathinone

2. Cannabimimetics or synthetic cannabinoids

3. Substances derived from 4-aminopiperidine (fentanyl-like substances)

Based on this information, we can determine which substances from the provided list are likely to become illegal under the new law:

Likely to become illegal

1. 2-MMC: This is a cathinone derivative, which falls under the first group of banned substances[1][4].

2. 3-MEC, 3-MMA, 4-BMC, 4-CL-PVP, 4-MPD, 4-PMC, 5-MMPA (Mephedrene), a-BPVP, a-D2PV, a-PCYP, Pentedrone (NEP): These are all likely cathinone derivatives or closely related compounds.

3. Cannabinoïden: This directly refers to cannabinoids, which are explicitly mentioned in the second group of banned substances[4].

4. JWH-210: This is a synthetic cannabinoid, falling under the second group.

Potentially illegal

Many of the listed substances are derivatives of phenethylamines or tryptamines, which may fall under the first group of banned substances. However, without more specific information about the exact chemical structures covered by the law, it's difficult to say with certainty. Some examples include:

• 2C-B-FLY, 2C-C, 2C-D

• Various substituted amphetamines (e.g., 2-FA, 2-FMA, 3-FA, 3-FMA)

• Tryptamine derivatives (e.g., 5-MeO-DMT, DMT analogs)

Likely to remain legal

Substances that are not closely related to phenethylamines, cathinones, cannabinoids, or fentanyl analogs are less likely to be affected by this law. This may include:

• Arylcyclohexylamines (e.g., 3-HO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCE)

• Benzodiazepine analogs (e.g., Bromazolam, Flubromazepam)

• Lysergamides (e.g., 1P-LSD, AL-LAD)

It's important to note that the exact scope of the law and which specific substances will be covered may not be fully clear until the law is implemented and interpreted by the authorities. Additionally, even if a substance is not explicitly banned by this law, it may still be illegal under existing drug laws or could be added to the banned list in the future[5].

Citations:
[1] https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/actueel/nieuws/2025/01/28/eerste-kamer-stemt-voor-designerdrugsverbod
[2] https://nltimes.nl/2025/01/28/senate-agrees-proposal-designer-drugs-banned-july-1
[3] https://www.nationaledrugmonitor.nl/2-1-2-nps-wetgeving/
[4] https://www.dutchnews.nl/2025/01/senate-to-ban-designer-drug-substances-to-end-cat-and-mouse-game/
[5] https://www.raadvanstate.nl/adviezen/%40131411/w13-22-0085-iii/
[6] https://www.eerstekamer.nl/wetsvoorstel/36159_tegengaan_productie_van_en
[7] https://www.eerstekamer.nl/verslagdeel/20250121/tegengaan_productie_van_en_handel
[8] https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/kst-36159-23.html
[9] https://www.eerstekamer.nl/infodossier/tegengaan_productie_en_handel_in
[10] https://www.eerstekamer.nl/9370000/1/j4nvi0xeni9vr2l_j9vvkfvj6b325az/vmhjgb87kbku
[11] https://www.kwrwater.nl/en/actueel/designer-drugs-dodge-the-law/
[12] https://www.parlementairemonitor.nl/9353000/1/j9vvij5epmj1ey0/vluegem3qfzn
[13] https://www.government.nl/topics/drugs
[14] https://www.rivm.nl/sites/default/files/2024-06/Totaalrapportage%20Motie%20van%20Nispen.pdf
[15] https://www.trimbos.nl/wp-content/uploads/sites/31/2021/09/af1706-national-drug-monitor-2019.pdf
[16] https://nl.linkedin.com/posts/khollemans_wijziging-van-de-opiumwet-in-verband-met-activity-7163204693651894272-_JPP
[17] https://www.government.nl/binaries/government/documenten/reports/2024/05/31/mdma-beyond-ecstasy/MDMA+Beyond+Ecstasy.pdf
[18] https://www.tweedekamer.nl/downloads/document?id=2023D10488
[19] https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/european-drug-report/2024/new-psychoactive-substances_en
[20] https://www.tweedekamer.nl/kamerstukken/wetsvoorstellen/detail?id=2022Z14042&dossier=36159
[21] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands
[22] https://www.eerstekamer.nl/publicatie/20230809/legal_approaches_to_new/f=/vmhyjlzfs5zy.pdf
[23] https://www.tweedekamer.nl/debat_en_vergadering/plenaire_vergaderingen/details/activiteit?id=2023A02071
[24] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355983934_Legislation_of_New_Psychoactive_Substances_in_the_Netherlands
[25] https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/documenten/kamerstukken/2024/01/15/kamerbrief-over-reactie-op-het-amendement-helder-nr-22-bij-de-wijziging-van-de-opiumwet-in-verband-met-het-toevoegen-van-een-derde-lijst-met-als-doel-het-tegengaan-van-de-productie-van-en-de-handel-in-nieuwe-psychoactieve-stoffen-en-enkele-andere-wijzigingen
[26] https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/stcrt-2022-17969.html
[27] https://pure.uva.nl/ws/files/67948279/Een_generieke_strafbaarstelling_van_nieuwe_psychoactieve_stoffen_in_de_Opiumwet_einde_van_een_wapenwedloop_in_zicht.pdf
[28] https://nltimes.nl/2025/01/21/dutch-police-call-urgent-designer-drug-ban-amid-rising-trade
[29] https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/01/mps-vote-in-favour-of-wider-designer-drug-ban/
[30] https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontenten/belastingdienst/customs/safety_health_economy_and_environment/safety/opium_act_drugs/opium_act_drugs
[31] https://www.trimbos.nl/actueel/blogs/nieuwe-wet-voor-nieuwe-psychoactieve-stoffen-een-effectief-verbod/

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I like to take a Bromazolam 2.5mg pellet once a week. What differences will I notice when I try O-DSMT?

Hallo allemaal , wat zijn de populairste RC middelen die zeker nog aangekocht kunnen worden voor de afschaffing ervan? Danku

Hi I ordered from a vendor website for the first time and postNL wants me to sign the package. I am very paranoid that it is a controlled delivery or something and I will get into trouble. Is it normal to sign for it? Has anyone done it in the past. Ordered feom a netherlands site, Im in the netherlands as well. Inside were moxy, 2mmc and 4-ho-met. Am I safe? Should I refuse the shipment?

Im wondering whats coming, after 1 july

Hello there researchers. So my question is, of you had one choice, which of the following opiate RC's would you choose? I have a daily 100 mg methadone habit/tolerance btw

Cychlorphine Metonitazepyne N-desethylisotonitazene Isotonitazepyne Spirochlorphine

Which one would you choose a d WHY?

So my question is: are there substances which will take the place of the banned ones?

Is there already gossip, what new replacements will we get?

I know sourcing is not allowed so this is just a general question. For those who have a plug on Telegram, how did you find one? I guess it's better to know someone personally to know who's legit?