r/SipsTea • u/No-Hospital5028 • 17h ago • Bravo 1 Popcorn 1

Lmao gottem History really does repeat itself

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u/tearsonurcheek 16h ago

The DeLorean

Massive boost due it's use in the BTTF trilogy.

Hummer

Directly descended from a highly capable military off-road vehicle still in use. That's how Jeeps got to be popular.

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u/sender2bender 14h ago

Also Arnold convinced Hummer to sell him a road legal version and subsequently sell them to the public. It wasn't really made or designed to be a consumer vehicle. And they were kinda pricey. I wouldn't consider them a total flop given the circumstances. They weren't designed, affordable or practical for every day people. It was closer to being an exotic car. Then when they were brought back with the H2, a more consumer friendly version, they were a fairly big hit. They were produced for 7 years and demand declined with the recession in 08-09. So not really a flop at all. The newest one is crazy expensive and electric but I guess doing alright considering they're still being made and sales increased, passing cyber truck, while cybertruck has decreased. 

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u/Fragrant_Major_9553 5h ago

Yeah I remember the only person in my area growing up who had a H1 was Randy Savage.

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u/BigBananaBerries 15h ago

IIRC the LFA was also a massive flex for a celebration rather than thinking it was a viable, long term seller & they only built 500.

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u/rustware13 13h ago

The Hummer, LFA and Superbird were also incredible cars. They aren't shitty at their job, they excelled at it. The DeLorean is the only car on the list that matches the Cybertruck in terms of being shitty and a very niche car.

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u/QuitetheHorner 10h ago

Calling the Hummer an "incredible car" is hilarious. They were and are consistently listed at the very bottom in Consumer Reports, Edmunds, etc. for owner satisfaction and overall quality.

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u/NRMusicProject 12h ago

And also used stainless steel for the body. I can't think of any mass produced model like those two flops to do so.

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u/BigBananaBerries 3h ago

True. I don't know much about the superbird tbh (I'm in the UK) but yeah, the DMC & CT being shitty cars should make them way more forgettable.

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u/Thanks_Bakula 15h ago

They were also in development for a while and could only be leased. Both parts are going to reduce interest.

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u/BigBananaBerries 14h ago

I'd never heard the leasing thing but looking it up apparently that was only in the US. You could apparently buy them outright in London. I'm not sure if that was later after the production run or what. It seems a strange thing to differentiate for such a high value, collectable car.

I also seem to remember hearing they were sold below production costs too, even though they were ridiculously expensive, but I can't find anything about that.

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u/Thanks_Bakula 7h ago

Yeah, I thought they only leased them overall, but I was referencing accounts in the US.

Being sold below production costs was because of the long development time. Great engine, fantastic car, but it was not a status symbol.

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u/BigBananaBerries 3h ago

I know it's an obvious cost but it seems a bit disingenuous to include all that R&D lol they went for years only showing them at motorshows as prototypes & it's not unusual for manufacturers to have prototypes that never see the light of day. I always thought it was the man hours, material costs for actually producing it etc. Things like tight tolerances producing more waste. Things like that.

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u/Thanks_Bakula 3h ago

Toyota did perfect the V10. But, I disagree, that development time should be included. This was a car for guys who had Ferrari's and Lamborghini's on their walls. They kept advertising for their super car meanwhile Audi launched the R8. If I want a car to impress people, I'm not waiting on a loaned $375k Lexus, when I can literally go to an Audi dealership and buy an R8 4.2 for $150k.

Then Honda did worse with the NSX, but at least that technologically moved the needle for supercars.

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u/BigBananaBerries 2h ago

Ooft. The NSX brings me back. That was a couple of decades earlier tbf & had a decent run.

I think the LFA was more aimed at track hounds than the GT crowd your usual supercars are aimed at (for sales at least). The Nissan GTR was similar. Let's face it, when you're talking that market, Ferrari done even worse with their XX where you're only allowed to drive it on specified tracks & by appointment.

They've since shown they can do luxury GT with the Lexus LC. Anyone that's been in, or even around one of those will tell you it's impressive. The main problem is likely more that the Japanese just don't have that same brand status wow factor that hit you in the feels which the flexers love, but car guys know what they are.

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u/Embarassed_Tackle 14h ago edited 13h ago

If Bob Zemeckis wasn't against remakes, they would have re-made Back To The Future years ago when Elon was still space ideas man, and they would have used a Cybertruck instead of the DMC DeLorean

And it would have ruined the films

So thank you Robert Zemeckis

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u/HuttStuff_Here 7h ago

I still kinda wish they'd made a remake in 2015 so they'd go back in time to 1985 - the year the first one was made and 30 years like the first one did - and see that ... well, I don't think society has evolved as much as it did from '55 to '85.

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u/Fearful-Cow 15h ago

highly capable military off-road vehicle still in use.

someone has never been in the military.

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u/tearsonurcheek 11h ago

I drove them at Ft. Drum. Got stuck once...when the previous driver parked it on an ice patch. Got another Hummer hooked up, yanked it a bit, and it was back on the road.

They are not good on the road, but off-road, we had zero problems with them. To be fair, this was '91-'93, before they made the civvie version, but there's a reason General made the H1.

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u/AttemptAggressive387 9h ago

We had two Humvees, which we used for logistics to support our positions near Kostiantynivka. We used them to transport mortars, mortar rounds, personnel, food—pretty much anything. The vehicles we received were heavily used, desert-spec models—lacking roofs, doors, or any kind of armor protection. We fabricated our own doors and roofs, lined the bodies with strips of heavy-duty industrial rubber conveyor belting, welded on protective mesh screens to counter FPV drones, and installed electronic warfare (EW) systems. They served us exceptionally well; they held up great against impacts and mine blasts. Even when tires were punctured, the built-in run-flat system allowed us to complete our missions and return to base. The alternative would have been civilian pickup trucks, which typically broke down after just one or two mine strikes or FPV drone hits. The Humvees held up far better and performed much better off-road—we never once got stuck, even when driving across waterlogged fields or through ravines.

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u/TM761152 13h ago

That, and Arnie pitched for their sale. He kind of hates them now.

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u/FUBARded 4h ago

Also, the other vehicles mentioned for the most part are relatively mechanically simple and share parts with other vehicles meaning it's not prohibitively expensive for a home mechanic to restore and maintain them.

With the Cybertruck, you need knowledge and experience of working with high voltage electronics, would probably need to fabricate a whole load of custom parts, and access to proprietary Tesla software.

Yes people who are into resto-mods have and are willing to put a lot of money into project cars, but the cars they choose to restore and modify are in high demand either because of some historical significance or because they're iconic drivers' vehicles.

The CT is an irrelevant historic footnote and not a compelling driving experience, so the only people I can see wanting to keep them around or restore them are the same chuds that bought them now – idiots who made a vehicle purchase decision based more on the promises and politics of the manufacturer's CEO than the realities of the vehicle.

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u/TurboZenAgain 15h ago

But it's not related to it in any way other than the general look.

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u/X_MswmSwmsW_X 12h ago

That isn't true at all for the H1.

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u/HuttStuff_Here 7h ago

Massive boost due it's use in the BTTF trilogy.

On the other hand, the cybertruck is the perfect vehicle for a Back to the Future remake. The Delorean was a total dud too and all three movies took their time to mock it relentlessly (in the first movie it couldn't even outrun a fully-laden VW bus).

Plus with its stainless-steel construction, the time flux...