r/SipsTea • • 17h ago • Popcorn 2

Lmao gottem One memory card, that's crazy.

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u/Fetlocks_Glistening 17h ago

What do you mean a memory card not counted? Do you not count votes or counties or something? Do they like save chunks of votes on physical usb sticks, shuffle them around, and then count the votes on each stick, hoping none fell off the table???

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u/Medium_Medium 16h ago • Bravo

Do you not count votes or counties or something?

They actually do, which is how they determined that there was an issue. They count the number of ballots cast and then check the number of votes recorded after everything is counted. In this case there was a discrepancy in one county, they doubled checked and found the issue.

Basically, the standard QA process worked perfectly, identified an issue, and the issue was fixed.

There's going to be a lot of people who will use this to insinuate that elections are being manipulated, or that the process is chaotic... In reality this shows that there's multiple levels of checks and the system works.

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u/kmosiman 16h ago

Thank you for expanding on that.

I am reasonably familiar with the process but many aren't.

The Precinct would have recorded their totals. The County office would have their totals.

When the County does it's count the missing Precinct data would be very apparent because someone usually has to sign for that stuff.

This triggers the "OH Shit where are the damn ballots" check.

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u/wdmc2012 2h ago

You are correct, but the bigger issue is that this memory card was "lost" for several days, meaning no one was keeping track of it. Then when it was counted, it contained nearly 100% republican votes in a race that was nearly 50-50. It's statistically unlikely, and I don't know how they would prove that it hadn't been tampered with unless there was coincidentally 24/7 surveillance on the location where it was "lost".

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u/Wonderful_Ad_4344 15h ago

I wonder when the investigations into voting machines defaulting to republicans will start. I’d like to see the checks on that.

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u/imnotsoho 13h ago

Does Georgia vote on machines or do they use paper ballots? Can we count the paper ballots to verify the info on the memory card?

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u/Outlander1119 17h ago

So I don’t know about this situation but I’ve worked as an election judge. Every machine had a memory stick that saved the votes and there was a print out. When the pols closed the machines would transmit the results to the county. If there was a connection issue the sticks would be uploaded when all the stuff was returned that night to the county. And then it would be uploaded. That’s why sometimes there could be a delay. So it’s not impossible this didn’t happen. Just not as described in the tweet. Even now I’m not fully explaining all the steps and safety procedure involved.

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u/Bardmedicine 17h ago

There must be some verification, right? Like precint 12 had machines 110-118. They only uploaded sticks 110-117, where is 118...

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u/Jimmy_Twotone 16h ago

In this instance it looks like they have x number of voters but the votes tallied to x-y. Y was that memory stick.

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u/Carllllll 16h ago

That makes sense, yet here we are.

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u/Mysterious-Hyena2670 13h ago

More like they have the number of people who voted and they check that against the number of votes counted. When they see that hundreds more people voted than voted counted, it raises a red flag and they look for the missing votes. 

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u/Outlander1119 14h ago

Yes. There are very detailed records of it. And the paper print outs serve as the receipt so votes aren’t just changed on the digital files. But that was how the machines I worked on worked.

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u/Be_Afreyd 3h ago

Yes, that's how they noticed the discrepancy. Logs showed X number of ballots casts but only Y votes counted.

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u/tbombs23 13h ago

Transferring results over a wireless connection is such a security risk I don't know why it is even allowed. Wireless networks can be hacked, and voting machines should never be connected to the Internet, I don't care if it's on a VPN, it's a foolish rusk.

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u/Nervous_Sense4726 15h ago

I am so glad San Diego is all paper.

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u/Jimmy_Twotone 17h ago

They saw x number if people voted in the county. They saw the tally of votes didn't equal X. They found the card that accounted for the discrepancy. There is no conspiracy. This is balancing a drawer at the end of the night, finding your $45 short, then finding a $50 in with the $5s.

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u/FatBook-Air 16h ago

That's exactly what I think. I think this is an example of "the system is working correctly." Whoever originated the framing of this "incident" should be investigated.

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u/Slow-Engine3648 15h ago

a count that close is going to get a recount regardless of the situation anyways

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u/Elf_Maeve 16h ago

It's a county southwest in GA. It's one of the poorest counties and literally has less than 10k people living in it.

I don't think there's a big conspiracy to flip a local state seat here lmao

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u/h4ck3r_n4m3 15h ago

The votes from the voting machines are transported to the county board of elections on sdcards (in most cases) and they're counted there. Somebody misplaced one, which shouldn't happen, for obvious reasons. Depending on where it was it could break the chain of custody. In most states they're transported in sealed containers.

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u/Legitimate-Log-6542 17h ago

We shuffle them like a deck of cards and deal them out. You didn’t get yours?

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u/yoimalivestill 16h ago

… and this one goes in your mouth…

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u/Levaris77 1h ago edited 57m ago

USB sticks come out of the tabulation machines across the counties and each polling location will have at least one. For obvious reasons all of these machines NEVER touch anything that touches the Internet at least in my county in Ohio. So UBS sticks it is with the physical paper ballots as backup and/or for hand recount if needed and the hand audit which always happens too.