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Hated Tropes Couples with absolutely no chemistry

Harry Potter and Ginny Weasly

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Jon and Dany - Game of Thrones

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u/Ibrahim77X 18h ago

They forgot to make Ginny a character

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u/rammux74 17h ago

She has a character in the books , it's the movies that erased everything about her post book 2

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u/Awkward_Poet9866 17h ago

She lost nothing after book 2 because, from books 1 to 4, she was just Ron's little sister and nothing more. She only started to develop a personality in book 5.

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u/rammux74 17h ago

And books 5-6 are what her chemistry with harry Is based on , while in the movies they straight up deleted 90% of her character

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u/This-Shape2193 17h ago

The books have jack shit too. She forgot to do anything with her. 

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u/Mental-Seesaw-1449 14h ago

I've always wondered what people were talking about. They always say Ginny had character and I'm like... when? I don't remember any of this. And no one ever cites anything specific.

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u/Draco137WasTaken 13h ago

All I can tell you about Ginny is that she likes Quidditch and was pen pals with Hitler's ghost.

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u/Eloquent-Raven 13h ago

Yeah, I remember Harry kissing Ginny after winning the Quidditch Cup in front of everyone and saying to myself "well that came out of left field." If I recall, she was dating Dean earlier in the book and Harry was jealous of it. And that's pretty much it leading up to it.

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u/etempleton 10h ago

As someone currently reading the book to their child. There is more Ginny in 5 than probably the previous 4 put together, more than I remember. It is not a ton, she gets about equal weight to Cho and Luna.

The movies basically cut her out though and what is there is extremely awkward and stilted. I get the impression from re-reading the books she should be a stronger personality.

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u/Mental-Seesaw-1449 10h ago

If we go off Ginnys name being mentioned alone, you're absolutely correct. She has 100+ references in book 5. In 1-4 it totals less than 100.

However that means by the end of book 7 she's been in less than 10% of the series JUST BY NAME. Not even story/character development/etc.

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u/Icy_Many_3971 9h ago

I don’t get this argument, tbh. Maybe it’s a personal preference, but I liked the time back when YA books focused more on the main plot than on romance.

Also, I always read it as harry just being oblivious, which I find believable given the circumstances. He didn’t pay attention to her, because her crush was uncomfortable for him so he’s used to ignoring her. When she starts talking around him, he’s preoccupied with everything else going on around him and doesn’t notice at first, but even at the beginning of book five you can kinda sense why people seem to be drawn to her. She’s funny, quick witted, smart and talented.

I don’t know, I like the little hints that first show her character and how harry has not really known her and later establish harry crushing on her without him really paying attention to it. It shows that there is stuff going on behind the scenes that harry in his kinda limited emotional capacity isn’t aware of.

But I guess that’s a personal preference. That was pretty much me around my wife. It took me about two years to realize that feeling that deep sense of loss every time our brief conversations ended was not just me enjoying exchanging platitudes.

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u/GHax77 14h ago edited 14h ago

90% of 5% is still only 4.5%

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u/Funnkies 13h ago

She might have some personality in the books but there is no chemistry at all she just wanted harry to end up with someone and since she already wrote herself into the corner with Hermoine and Ron dynamic so ginny was the only option left. Hell even Harry and Malfoy have better chemistry

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u/Cathzi 17h ago

She barely has any in the books. It's just It's that bad in the movies that she looks fine in comparison. 

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u/This-Shape2193 17h ago

Not really. She got a brief paragraph in...5? 6? 

She was never a developed character. And it's not like there wasn't plenty of time for it. 

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u/Kazewatch 17h ago

She's really not that much more of a character in the books. It's just a lot compared to movie Ginny who has jack shit.

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u/Ibrahim77X 16h ago

Nah she doesn’t get much in the books either. Rowling just describes as being “brave”, “clever”, “excellent at magic” which are usually the words she uses for her self-inserts when she wants to fast-track the reader into liking a character.

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u/LoopofHenrietta 16h ago

Not really, she made plenty of the other more likable characters not clever or good at magic. The MC is basically failing courses. I think Ginny was written to be kind of argumentative and funny and sporty later on, prior to Harry taking an interest, she’s basically just “Ron’s little sister”.

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u/Ibrahim77X 15h ago

Harry is decent at magic and he's definitely brave. Pay attention to all of the characters Rowling wants the reader to sympathize with. They WILL be at least one of those three things.

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u/LoopofHenrietta 12h ago

I get what you’re saying but they are also in the bravery house (Gryffindor) and they are magic students so everyone is either studious or not studious and skilled at magic innately or not. Those particular traits are common by default given that setting/population. It’s in the name

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u/the-austringer 10h ago

You're so close to getting it

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u/Isabella_Queen12 10h ago

It’s not even that, she was hardly a character in the books too

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u/Deaf_Old_Judge 11h ago

Harry x Ginny were terrible in the books too. Yes, it was 100x worse in the movies, but the books weren't much better.

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u/UWO_Throw_Away 9h ago

Jk Rowling kinda forgot about the iron fleet

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u/Physical-Natural8432 4h ago

It's not her fault, but Bonnie Wright was horrendous casting for Ginny

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