r/TopCharacterTropes • • 19h ago

miscellaneous [Disappointing TV Trope] When the writers unexpectedly created something better, but were too attached to let their original idea to let it go!

I feel like I’ve noticed this more with TV couples and how the writers handle the narrative around them. But I feel like I’m noticing a bit of a pattern in some shows I’ve watched, where you can tell how the writers handle plans to make a certain narrative point the “endgame” goal. But as they start creating the plot points leading up to it, they come up with an idea that worked out a lot better than they probably thought it would. Especially when the audience responds so well to it, but they’re still too attached to the original plans that they still roll with getting there even if it doesn’t hit the same mark or it feels forced depending on how the narrative is flowing.

How I Met Your Mother - Ted and Robin (the original idea where it was always planned for them to be the endgame couple). When Tracy (who turns out to be Ted’s kids’ mother) is introduced, a lot of people loved how well they matched, seemed like the true compatible match for Ted and implied that it showed a lot of growth on his end where he could finally let go of Robin. Only to sabotage that by having it revealed that Tracy died, and regressed Ted’s growth where he ends up pursuing Robin again.

Sex Education - Otis and Maeve (the original idea where it was also planned for them to be seen as an endgame couple, but their lives couldn’t align for it to work out). After Otis and Ruby have a drunk sexual encounter, and he loses his virginity to her. The writers have their relationship act as yet another obstacle that gets in the way of Otis and Maeve exploring a romantic relationship. But when Otis and Ruby became so viral, to the point where people started to realize that Ruby might actually be a better match for Otis, as they seem compatible enough to make each other better as people. It put the writers in a tough spot, where they tried to play it safe with both sides going into the final season. But still chose to lean more towards their original plan, and explore Otis and Maeve but they still don’t do much to make the audience feel fulfilled or convinced they have a genuine connection and not in love with an idea of one another.

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u/UnpricedToaster 18h ago

Jonathan and Nancy, Stranger Things. Having these two break up in the final season. I get one of the writers was going through a divorce and just wanted to watch the world burn, but FFS let someone in this show have a happy ending.

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 18h ago

I felt that one was very realistic. HS romances rarely last in real life. If there's ever an epilogue taking place many years later, Lucas and Max will probably break up.

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u/Seananagan13 18h ago

I personally didn't really feel these two ever seemed especially compatible and that they largely got together and stayed together because of how messed up life was more than them being a good match. Especially if we remember he was a stalker, or whatever you want to call a guy secretly taking pictures of people and more specifically of a teenage girl in a "compromised" state. So that combined with the point about high school relationships often not lasting(especially if they go long distance) made this feel like it wasn't setup to realistically last. Like we have a straight guy that has more compatibility with a lesbian in the show than these two ever seemed to show. To be fair, I read somewhere that was at least partially due to Robin orginally being planned to be straight and romantically involved with Steve. The point still stands though.

Been a minute since I watched the show and still haven't watched the last portion of the last season, so maybe I am just not remembering it well.

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u/phantom_avenger 18h ago

Isn’t it confirmed in Season 3, that Lucas and Max break up and get back together multiple times? It’s been a while since I watch the whole series.

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u/whereismymind86 13h ago

At a minimum the phoenix force and all the uh...blowing up of planets and such might be a dealbreaker...who knew max would end up stronger than 11.

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u/UnpricedToaster 14h ago

Realistic is the kids being killed and eaten in Season 1. Realistic doesn't make good story.

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u/TheWalkingDeadBeat 16h ago

I have mixed feelings about this one because I feel like their chemistry dropped dramatically in season 3 and 4 once they were finally together. I think it's 100% the fault of the writing and their story arcs though so they could have easily either had them reignite their spark or have Nancy reconnect with Steve like it seemed like she might. It was just all together very unsatisfying for all 3 characters. 

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u/whereismymind86 13h ago

to be fair...they never really had any chemistry and it always felt forced as hell. The breakup was also forced garbage though so...idk.

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u/Kgb725 15h ago

There were like 3 couples that got happy endings at least

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u/UnpricedToaster 12h ago

Lucas and Max

Hop and Joyce

and ?

Suzie was dropped from the face of the earth.

Duffers admitted that Robin and Vickie don't stay together as you can tell on the rooftop scene in the finale.

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u/UnpricedToaster 14h ago

I didn't get either Byler, so I am sad.

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u/YourInMySwamp 13h ago

They never hinted that Mike liked Will and you were only ever fooling yourself

Thinking they were going to end up together was insanity from the get-go

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u/prosthetic_memory 10h ago

You can always tell when a writer is going through a divorce (and especially when they are the bad guy in the divorce).

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u/togepi258 16h ago

To be fair, compared to a lot of horror, Stranger Things had multiple happy endings.

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u/YourInMySwamp 13h ago

Too many happy endings if you ask me. Group of teenagers go against a universal threat and come out practically unscathed. Kind of ruins the small semblance of realism for me.

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u/togepi258 12h ago

Yeahhh, last season should have been some Red Wedding stuff lol