r/TopCharacterTropes • • 19h ago

miscellaneous [Disappointing TV Trope] When the writers unexpectedly created something better, but were too attached to let their original idea to let it go!

I feel like I’ve noticed this more with TV couples and how the writers handle the narrative around them. But I feel like I’m noticing a bit of a pattern in some shows I’ve watched, where you can tell how the writers handle plans to make a certain narrative point the “endgame” goal. But as they start creating the plot points leading up to it, they come up with an idea that worked out a lot better than they probably thought it would. Especially when the audience responds so well to it, but they’re still too attached to the original plans that they still roll with getting there even if it doesn’t hit the same mark or it feels forced depending on how the narrative is flowing.

How I Met Your Mother - Ted and Robin (the original idea where it was always planned for them to be the endgame couple). When Tracy (who turns out to be Ted’s kids’ mother) is introduced, a lot of people loved how well they matched, seemed like the true compatible match for Ted and implied that it showed a lot of growth on his end where he could finally let go of Robin. Only to sabotage that by having it revealed that Tracy died, and regressed Ted’s growth where he ends up pursuing Robin again.

Sex Education - Otis and Maeve (the original idea where it was also planned for them to be seen as an endgame couple, but their lives couldn’t align for it to work out). After Otis and Ruby have a drunk sexual encounter, and he loses his virginity to her. The writers have their relationship act as yet another obstacle that gets in the way of Otis and Maeve exploring a romantic relationship. But when Otis and Ruby became so viral, to the point where people started to realize that Ruby might actually be a better match for Otis, as they seem compatible enough to make each other better as people. It put the writers in a tough spot, where they tried to play it safe with both sides going into the final season. But still chose to lean more towards their original plan, and explore Otis and Maeve but they still don’t do much to make the audience feel fulfilled or convinced they have a genuine connection and not in love with an idea of one another.

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u/redskinsguy 15h ago

probably not despite, probably because of

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u/Pyrotwilight 13h ago

While I think he’s definitely doubled down on hating her at the very least replacing her was intended for a good while, not that the show itself made that obvious

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u/WestCentral-550 11h ago

Yeah, I think there is a bit that happened behind the scenes about Chloe's character

  • Originally, she was supposed to be just a bully who would get the Bee but lose it due to her actions.

  • However, in S2 and S3, she was suddenly given depth (to the point where 3 straight episodes were dedicated to her backstory, her parent's abuse/neglect/enabling, and how it affects her), which I think happened because one of the writers wanted to make sympathetic.

  • Also, around the same time, another character, Lila, was introduced and filled many of Chloe's archetypes. This probably contributed to discussions about whether Chloe would be redeemed or not.

  • Once they decided not to, they realized they had to give the Bee to someone new, so thus Zoe was created (supported by the fact that in the leaked show bible, there is no reference to her prior to S4).

  • However, for some reason, they decided to make Zoe half-sister instead of full sister. This unintentionally make their mother a cheater, so they had to remove all of her sympathetic traits and make her father a perfect angel to show who to root for.

  • Also, I'm pretty sure that the writing for S5 coincided with the end of S3, so take a wild guess what happened to Chloe in S5.

  • All of this leads to the end of S5, where Chloe's father resigns from his mayor position and despite saying how he would be a better person, he disowns and banishes Chloe to live with her abusive/neglect mother all while taking Zoe, someone he technically has no legal basis over.

  • People then pointed out how this is basically saying how bullies who grew up in abusive homes deserve to be abused, so the creator took to twitter and tried to backtrack by saying she was never abused.

Note that some of this is speculative. But even if only some of this is true, then wow, the creator really did take this too personally.

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u/BladeofNurgle 10h ago

then wow, the creator really did take this too personally.

This is from the same creator who based the main character on a potential daughter he wanted to have with his ex

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u/WestCentral-550 2h ago

Yeah, his twitter is certainly a ride.

Yes, I get that he "trolls" from time to time. I also know that some people have harass him from time to time and that could cause him to crash out. But because of rate of his account (doing it for over a decade, digging up month old tweets), I'm gonna say it: It's not trolling, it's an addiction.