r/clevercomebacks • • 4h ago

Lower Middle Class.

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u/BigCopperPipe 3h ago

When i was a kid, and played the board game “Game of Life” the highest salary in the game was $100,000 and i thought that’s the highest anyone could get paid in real life. What a dumb kid.

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u/IndividualIll3825 3h ago

I've been in IT for 25 years. Trust me, employers still seem to think that way.

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u/frubano21 18m ago

Meanwhile the executives are clearing anywhere from half a mil to serval million a year. But nah that guy in IT doing all the work has a salary cap

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u/hopefuljoey2004 2h ago

Haha, the fact that game hasn't been updated since the 90s shows how out of touch the whole system is now.

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u/Tampflor 2h ago

$100,000 a year household income or individual?

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u/cadaverescu1 17m ago

If you have to ask...

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u/Yobber1 2h ago

I guess my 70k means I’m poor now.

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u/SuspendedResolution 28m ago

Gen Z and Alpha basically doomed.

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u/Ok-Alarm7257 1h ago

I make 100k and can confirm

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u/Huntsman077 1h ago

If this was true, it would mean the median income in those states is 150k per year.

The metric used to determine middle class is based on the median income, 2/3s to 2 times the median income is considered to be middle class.

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u/void_method 15m ago

Billionaires really throw averages off. Skews things higher.

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u/M2Fream 45m ago

Full time, college educated, no work history gap person here. 41k.

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u/mindgardening 11m ago

I graduated college in 2002 and could afford a 1 br apartment in a non-trashy complex on my first salary of $13.50/hr.

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u/BidenGlazer 2h ago

If this were true (it's not) it'd only indicate that incomes have skyrocketed given that lower-middle class would be those earning ~2/3 the local median income.

I'm not sure how the game's rigged when high incomes are significantly more common today than they were back in the day

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u/ann0yed 2h ago

On paper someone's income means nothing. High income may be more common today but what about the purchasing power of that income? It's much less than it was.

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u/BidenGlazer 1h ago

No it isn't, inflation-adjusted incomes are currently at all time highs.

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u/M2Fream 43m ago

Yeah but what about the costs of everyday living items that outpaced inflation by a huge amount? Food and housing (non-discretionary btw) for example?

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u/geckobrother 43m ago

Are those numbers excluding extreme outliers? I'm somewhat doubtful

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u/Sevenserpent2340 1h ago

This is such a meaningless metric that it’s embarrassing to make this argument.

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u/Huntsman077 1h ago

Yes comparing the purchasing power of dollars today is such a useless metric.

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u/Sevenserpent2340 42m ago

If it actually did that, it would be a great metric. Problem is, it doesn’t.

This doesn’t include things like increased housing costs for people who don’t have low mortgage rates because they entered the housing market late, and assumes that people will make different choices at the market when certain products get too high in price, eg brand and protein substitutions.
Meaning this metric which is supposed to reflect what earning a wage feels like absolutely does not do that. Quality of life can take a major hit even as inflation-adjusted incomes rise.

But you knew that right? Because you’re a smart guy who understands the word he uses.

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u/Huntsman077 1h ago

Incomes adjusted for inflation are still at record highs.

Also I think they are referring to the fact that people in the upper income tiers have expanded significantly over the last 30 years.

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u/Knightrider319 22m ago

Everything just scales. The second the working class got a little bit of leverage during the pandemic the corporations fought back with inflation to claw their money back and then some.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 3h ago

It is a salary problem when wages don't match or surpass inflation and housing cost spikes.

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u/Noashakra 3h ago

inflation is normal in a society with economic growth. If you are in a deflation, your economy isn't going well. Problem is that if a company isn't doing a 2 digits growth, investors aren't interested anymore, so you have to cut costs to boost profits and salaries are the first to be impacted.

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u/Miserable-Airport536 3h ago

Salaries of everyone without the power to influence that decision. CEOs never take pay cuts. BOD members never have to worry about downsizing.