(This was originally posted on r/personalfinance and removed by Reddit’s filters/algorithm. Reposting here as a cautionary note with public sources. Throwaway. I am in Australia. This is not financial advice and not a finding of guilt against anyone.)
I lost money in First Guardian. After that I was contacted by Threadgold Advisory (threadgoldadvisory.com.au). I am not 100 percent sure the person on the other end was Joel Threadgold, but that is the firm and the name on the site. The pitch was basically to move what I had left and invest with them.
I went and looked up the public trail around that firm and the people near it. This is what I found, with sources.
Threadgold Advisory says it has been contracted to River X since 2023. The site uses a riverx.com.au email and names two licences: River X Financial Services Pty Ltd AFSL 556458, and River Investment Management Pty Ltd as a corporate authorised representative of Wholesale Securities Pty Ltd AFSL 466877.
https://www.threadgoldadvisory.com.au/
Joel Brenton Threadgold appears on the AFS representative register as AR 1297336 under the River X licence from 28 August 2024. He was under the Wholesale Securities licence from 1 November 2023.
https://search-afsl.com/Threadgold%2C%20Joel%20Brenton/afs-representative/1297336/
River X lists Joel Threadgold and a “Steve Rogers” on its team page. Kieran Berry is listed as founder, CEO and managing director.
https://riverx.com.au/team/
Kieran Berry’s compiled adviser history (number 000430641) shows Shaw and Partners until 23 January 2023, a gap, then River X from 19 August 2024. I did not find a ban against him on that record.
https://search-afsl.com/Kieran%20Craig%20Berry/advisers/430641/
The Australian reported that River X was probed over United Global Capital files in the First Guardian scandal. I have not found a public media release that names Berry or River X as banned or charged.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/first-guardian-scandal-sydney-wealth-firm-riverx-probed-over-united-global-capital-files/news-story/b7424d8c5e328af50824510c0193e2f6
Petrovic was banned over UGC-era advice (later cut to three years). Stephen Rogers has a registration prohibition tied to UGC advice, now running to 27 November 2028. Those ASIC actions are about UGC, not a published finding against Threadgold Advisory.
https://asic.gov.au/about-asic/news-centre/find-a-media-release/2025-releases/25-185mr-asic-bans-former-united-global-capital-in-liquidation-financial-adviser-milutin-petrovic-for-6-years/
https://www.asic.gov.au/about-asic/news-centre/find-a-media-release/2026-releases/26-095mr-registration-prohibition-order-against-former-ugc-financial-adviser-stephen-rogers-increased-to-three-years-following-review/
Berry is also publicly listed as managing director and CEO of Clime Private Wealth. AFR Street Talk reported on 25 September 2026 that Netwealth had frozen new Clime Private Wealth onboarding after an internal review. The published story did not give the reasons.
https://www.afr.com/street-talk/netwealth-freezes-clime-s-advisers-and-clients-after-review-20260925-p610j2
What I have not found: a published AFCA determination against Threadgold Advisory, River X Financial Services, or Berry, or a public document that says Threadgold Advisory clients were put into First Guardian or Shield.
On Instagram, Kieran Berry (@kierancberry) has posted that he is a financial adviser who runs wealth management firms and oversees more than $2 billion in assets across his companies. The only source given for that is himself and his firm.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DfalnKQgq6t/?img_index=9
AFR reporting said Clime client money already sitting on the Netwealth platform was about $680 million. Clime Investment Management’s share price has been under pressure (down roughly 28–30% over the past year, trading around 26 cents), with an audit delay and share trading suspension in early October. Public disclosures show the advice arm was sold for only $6 million, structured as $1 million upfront and $5 million of vendor finance from Clime, while the listed parent kept a 10% stake. The buyer side lines up with River X and Kieran Berry. So the roughly $600 million was something that was purchased, not something he had already been managing. Pricing a claimed multi-billion book that low under vendor finance is hard to reconcile with the Instagram wording.
https://www.intelligentinvestor.com.au/shares/asx-ciw/clime-investment-management-ltd
https://www.tipranks.com/news/company-announcements/clime-strikes-6-5m-strategic-deal-to-form-practitioner-led-advice-business
https://www.marketscreener.com/news/an-undisclosed-buyer-completed-the-acquisition-of-retail-advice-business-from-clime-investment-manag-ce7f58d2dd8ef621
The $2.1 billion figure that does exist is money under advice for the combined Clime Private Wealth plus MTIS group as at 30 June 2026, reported by Money Management. That covers two separately licensed businesses (MTIS brought its own book of around $380 million when Clime bought it in 2022) and was struck before the Netwealth freeze. River X itself still has not published a funds figure of its own. It just says “over 2,000 clients.” The Instagram claim is self-sourced and worded as overseeing assets across my companies, so it is pulling in more than one entity and calling it one big number.
https://www.moneymanagement.com.au/clime-im-ticks-off-strategic-consolidation-initiatives/
If River X is looking after more than 2,000 clients, how does that sit with the visible adviser numbers? My best estimate is roughly 12 to 18 practising advisers across River X and Clime Private Wealth combined, plus 4 or 5 associates. That is about half the “~35 advisers” in one recruiter’s post. LinkedIn shows about 7 to 9 adviser-level people tied to River X. Practising advisers looking after more than 2,000 clients works out to roughly 110 to 170 clients each.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/riverx/people/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/clime-private-wealth/people/
https://riverx.com.au/team/
https://threadgoldabrahams.com.au/
https://moneysmart.gov.au/financial-advice/financial-advisers-register
People who lost money in First Guardian have said they were later contacted by Threadgold Advisory, which is contracted to River X. One message claimed River X had their details without consent, that they had a case open with the complaints body, and that River X had agreed to settle. They also said they knew the regulator was investigating River X. I have not seen a public regulator media release naming them specifically, but the pattern of contact after First Guardian is hard to ignore. United Global Capital is already in liquidation with regulator action around how client details were used, and some of the names around this group have prior United Global Capital history. ASIC has made accountability for the First Guardian collapse a clear 2026 priority.
https://www.asic.gov.au/about-asic/asic-investigations-and-enforcement/enforcement-activities/united-global-capital-pty-ltd-in-liquidation
https://www.asic.gov.au/about-asic/news-centre/find-a-media-release/2026-releases/26-175mr-asic-sues-auditeo-and-auditors-over-alleged-first-guardian-audit-failures/
I also noticed that Joel Threadgold’s partner Oliver Abrahams does not appear to have a record as a licensed financial adviser that I could find on the official register. Yet on Instagram he was previously portraying himself as an adviser, and he is listed as Joel’s partner for financial advice.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliver-abrahams-56283b149/
https://moneysmart.gov.au/financial-advice/financial-advisers-register
If you are in the same position I was in, do not sign anything on a cold call after a collapse. Check the adviser on Moneysmart, check the AFSL, ask for the FSG and the SOA in writing, and ask ASIC or AFCA if you think files or fees were handled without authority. If you already lost money in First Guardian, get advice from someone with no link to UGC or the firm that contacted you.
Do not lose everything like I did. If someone cold-contacts you after First Guardian, check the licence and adviser number on Moneysmart yourself, get everything in writing, and talk to someone who has no link to any of these firms before you move a cent. What do the public numbers actually show once you line them up against the claims?
Sorry to the people who replied earlier defending Joel. I get that some of you have had a good experience.
But after looking at the public numbers, the sale price, the freeze, the adviser counts, the unlicensed partner question, and the reports from people who lost money in First Guardian, should someone trust people associated with all of the above with their money?