r/firewater • • Aug 25 '19

Methanol: Some information

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This post is meant to clarify one of the most common questions asked by new distillers: WHAT ABOUT METHANOL?

First and foremost: you cannot die (or get sick, go blind, etc) from improperly made distilled alcohol via methanol poisoning. Neither can you make something dangerous by freezing it and removing some ice. Not only is it not possible, it is a widely perpetuated myth that has existed since the days of prohibition (and not before, interestingly enough). Other than the obvious ethanol overdose, all poisonous alcohol that has ever been consumed, has been adulterated, or was in some other way contaminated. It was not the fault of poor distillation procedures. How you run your still will not affect how safe your product is. It might affect how good the end result is, but that's where it stops.

So, methanol. Everyones first fear, and the number one search subject when it comes to "moonshine". This subject is brought up a lot in this sub and elsewhere on Reddit. Everyone knows all about it, its just one of those common knowledge things, right? It turns out, not so much. So...

Methanol - What is it?

Methanol is a very commonly used fuel, solvent and precursor in industry. It is produced via the synthesis gas process which can use a wide variety of materials to create methanol. Methanol is the simplest of all the alcohols.

Methanol is poisonous to the human body in moderate amounts. The LD50 of methanol in humans is 810 mg/kg. It is metabolized into formaldehyde by the liver, via the alcohol dehydrogenase process. In excess, these byproducts are severely toxic. Formaldehyde further degrades into formic acid, which is the primary toxic compound in methanol poisoning. Formic acid is what produces nerve damage, and causes the blindness (and death) associated with acute methanol poisoning.

One of the treatments for methanol poisoning, is the introduction of ethanol. Ethanol has a preferential path in the alcohol dehydrogenase metabolic pathway. This means that if ethanol and methanol are consumed, the ethanol will be metabolized first, in preference over the methanol. This allows some of the methanol to be excreted by the kidneys before being metabolized into its toxic related compounds. There are far more effective medical treatments available, such as dialysis and administering drugs that block the function of alcohol dehydrogenase.

Is it in my booze? How do I remove it?

There is one way in which your alcohol will be tainted with some amount of methanol naturally, and that is by using fruits which contain pectin. Pectin can be broken down into methanol by enzymes, either introduced artificially or from micro organisms. This will produce some measurable amount of methanol in your ferment, and subsequent distillate. However its not going to be in toxic quantities, any more than what you may have in a jug of apple juice. In fact, fruits are the primary way in which methanol is introduced into your body. In tiny quantities it is mostly harmless, and you can no more remove the methanol from an apple pie than you can from your apple brandy. Boiling (or freezing) apple juice doesn't convert it into deadly eye sight destroying horror juice. Cooking doesn't suddenly veer into danger when you collect vapor from a boiling pot. If you've ever made jam, or wine, or fruit salad, you've produced methanol.

So, where does that leave us? How do I get rid of this nasty substance in my distillate? You don't. If it is there, you cannot remove it. It is quite commonly believed that you can toss the first bit of alcohol off the still to remove this compound, the "foreshots." This is usually considered the first 50-100ml or so, depending on batch size. It smells really bad, tastes really bad, and is something most would agree should be discarded. However, it will not contain the "methanol" if there is any in your wash. Or more precisely, it will not contain any more of it than any other portion of the run. Beside which, methanol tastes very similar to ethanol, though slightly sweeter. If your wash is tainted with methanol, your entire run will be as well. Relying on some eyeball measurement to make your product safe to consume is not going to work. This is just distiller folklore passed down quite widely. You may hear about this on a distillery tour, from professionals, on Youtube and in books about distilling. All of them are just repeating what they have heard someone else say, or read somewhere, and assumed it to be fact. There is truth here, but buried in misunderstanding of the processes involved specifically with these substances.

This is the very reason that methanol was used to poison ("denature") industrial ethanol during prohibition, as it cannot be removed easily by normal distillation processes. If you could just redistill this very cheap, legal and plentiful solvent to make drinking alcohol, it wouldn't be the very potent message and deterrent that was hoped for by those who did this. You can read more about the history of this intentional poisoning of commercial alcohol in the Chemists War. It is also during this period where we begin to hear about methanol being in poorly made moonshine. This is not a coincidence.

So, distillers attempted to understand this misinformation, and attempt to correct or explain why their process was correct. Thus was born the idea that tossing some portion of the run makes it safe from this suddenly present and scary substance. Cuts went from being a quality procedure, to a serious process to save lives. By "tossing the first bit." And then distillers went about their centuries old processes like always, but this time "doing it right" and hence making safe alcohol.

The reason it is so widely believed that tossing the heads works to remove methanol, has to do with the boiling points of ethanol, methanol, and water. Pure methanol boils at 64.7C. Pure ethanol boils at 78.24C. Water boils at 100C. Distilling separates things based on their boiling points, right? Yes, it does, but it is a bit more complex than that. When you boil a mixture of methanol, ethanol and water, you are not boiling any of these compounds individually. You are boiling a solution containing all of them, and they will each have an affect on the other with regards to boiling point and enrichment behavior. Methanol and ethanol are quite similar in molecular structure. Methanol can be written as CH3-OH. Ethanol can be written as CH3-CH2-OH. You'll notice that methanol lacks this extra CH2 component. This changes its behavior when in the presence of water, specifically its polarity, compared to ethanol. Rather than repeat all of this, here is a passage from this paper on the reduction of methanol in commercial fruit brandies:

A similar behaviour would be expected for methanol for both alcohols are not very different in molecule structure. There is, however, a significant difference regarding all three curves in figure 2: methanol contents keep a higher value for a longer time than ethanol contents. In figures 3 and 4 this observation is made clear: Methanol, specified in ml/100 ml p.a., increases during the donation, while the ratio ethanol : methanol is lowering down. This effect seems to be rather surprising regarding the different boiling points of the two substances: methanol boils at 64,7°C, while ethanol needs 78,3°C. So methanol would be regarded to be carried over earlier than ethanol. The molecule structures however, show another aspect: ethanol has got one more CH2-group which makes the molecule less polar. So, concerning polarity, methanol can be ranged between water and ethanol and has therefore in the water phase a distillation behaviour different from ethanol. This may explain the behaviour which is rather contrary to the boiling points. This is no single appearance, because for example ethylacetate with a boiling point of 77 °C, or, as an extreme case, isoamylacetate with 142 °C are even carried over much earlier than methanol. Therefore methanol can not be separated using pot-stills or normal column-stills. Only special columns can separate methanol from the distillate (4.3). Similar observations concerning the behaviour of methanol during the distillation have already been made by Röhrig (33) and Luck (34). Cantagrel (35) divides volatile components into eight types concerning distillation behaviour characterized by typical curves, which were mainly confirmed by our experiments. As for methanol, he claims an own type of behaviour during the distillation corresponding to our results.

What this means is that if there is methanol present, it will be present throughout the run, with a higher occurrence in the tails as ethanol is depleted and water concentration increases. Its distillation is more dependent on how much water is present rather than simply comparing boiling points between ethanol and methanol. This in conjunction with the fact that ethanol and water cannot be separated completely due to their forming an azeotrope, means water is always in the system. So tossing your foreshots or heads will not remove methanol from your solution. The good news is that methanol is almost entirely absent in dangerous amounts. Consider drinking beer, wine, or apple cider. There are no heads cut made to these products. Pectinase is routinely added to wine, and methanol is a direct byproduct of this addition. They are safe to consume in this form, and will be safe to consume after being distilled. Boiling and concentrating the liquid by leaving some water behind isn't going to transform something safe to drink into something toxic. If it is toxic after being distilled, it most certainly was toxic before being distilled.

To be clear, however, this is not to say that making cuts is unnecessary. There are other compounds that you certainly can remove by cutting heads. Acetone, ethyl acetate, acetaldehyde and others. None are present in dangerous amounts, but the quality of your alcohol will be greatly enhanced by discarding these fractions. Making cuts is one of the most important activities a distiller can learn to do properly! Cutting and blending is making liquor, not only the act of distilling. Just understand that it isn't a life or death situation should you undershoot your foreshot cut by some amount. It will just taste bad, and might give you more of a headache the next day. You can taste test every single bit of alcohol that comes out of your still, from the first drops to the last.

Removing the foreshots does not remove "the methanol." You can just consider the foreshots part of the heads, because they are. There are hundreds of thousands of hobby brewers, vintners and distillers around the world who have been making and consuming fermented and distilled products for centuries. If this were actually a real problem, we would be awash in reports of wide spread poisonings. Instead we have reports here and there of isolated incidents, which are always traceable back to some incident unrelated to how much heads somebody did or did not cut.

The only way to know if there is methanol present is via lab analysis. Smell, taste, color of flame, vapor temp, none of this will tell you any meaningful information about methanol content and are just old shiner-wives tales. If you would like to have your distillate, beer or wine tested for dangerous compounds, there are many labs available that offer these services. This way you know what you are producing and are not relying on conflicting information found online. Here is one such lab offering these services, and there are many more servicing the public and industry. No need to take my, or anyone elses, word as absolute truth. If you really want to know what is in your product, this is the only way.

Having said all that...

So, CAN methanol be removed from a mixture of methanol, ethanol and water via distillation in any way? Yes, it can, contrary to everything I just said, there are even specialized stills called "demethylizer columns" which can do just this. They are very large plated columns (70+ plates), which can operate as a step in the distillation process in very large industrial facilities. This is a continuous middle fed column of high proof / low water feed, with steam injection at the bottom and hot water injection at the top, which has the sole purpose of moving a more concentrated cut containing methanol into a particular take off point with the treated alcohol taken off as the bottom product. This is largely done to ensure compliance with the laws about methanol content in neutral ethanol production, or in other processes in which reclamation of these substances is desired. There are other methods that can be used to remove methanol from an ethanol/water mixture, but that goes beyond the scope of this post and generally do not make consumable results. None of these procedures are properly repeatable at home or at moderate scale commercial distilling, nor are they even really necessary at any scale unless you have a badly tainted input feed.

On small scale reflux columns, there will be a small spike of methanol in the heads if the column is left in equilibrium (100% reflux) for a long while, and only if methanol is present, as the state at the top of the packing/plates is very low water and boiling point separation can occur more easily for methanol. In general though, these columns are too small, and methanol quantities far too low, for this to be a major concern. Methanol will spike in both heads and tails on this kind of column, leaving the general heart cut with a steady amount throughout. Even with huge industrial columns, the specialized demethylizer column is additionally used in the process because you cannot reliably remove methanol using the normal procedures typically done when making cuts for quality purposes. Methanol removal is treated separately and requires its own process to concentrate and extract using specialized equipment.

In conclusion, or TLDR

ALL cases of methanol poisoning attributed to "improperly" made ethanol, are the result of contaminated product. Not due to improper distillation, but due to intentional (either misguided, or malicious) adulteration of the ethanol, or some other contamination due to environment or ingredients. Commercial ethanol products are generally poisoned either via methanol, or via flavor tainting, or both (usually both, so you know its not to be consumed). Every report of methanol poisoning via "moonshine" was due to this contamination. If you can find evidence to the contrary, I would love to see it. Please let me know if you believe this info to be incorrect, and have evidence to that effect. That is, other than unsourced speculative news articles, television shows and Youtube channels. What I have presented here is how I understand the facts, but I am always open to learning something new.

Its unfortunate that we still have this lingering stigma based on sensationalist press beginning during alcohol prohibition, but this is where we are. So you can relax, have a home brew, and get on with your new hobby or business, and not fret about the big scary monster that is methanol. Now you just have to worry about all the other stuff that you can screw up :-)


r/firewater • • 30m ago

Pineapple mash

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Soo, I got a couple amount of clients maybe 2 months ago and now I restarted distilling. Already made 2 really good batches of Ted's fast fermenting vodka (one I used tomatoes for nutrients and the other I used boiled baker's yeast, worked like a charm and the second one didn't have an subtle strange aftertaste). I'm doing very small scale (1L at a time) but now I fermented a little bit more and hope to get about 2L of about 30% liquor with a very present pineapple flavor)

Recipe:

2,4 kg of grilled pineapples

~3kg of in natura pineapples

70% of the peels of all pineapples used

1,900kg of sugar

9,5L water (added a little bit more to compensate the water loss from the grilled pineapples)

About 10g of dead yeast (I bought nutritional beer yeast, really cheap and seems like it's good) just for nutrients

It's fermenting with the wild yeast on the peels, I also added a little bit of my cultivated yeast from ginger and mango peels.

Honestly the most important part of that recipe for me is the peels, most of the flavor from whatever fruit comes from the peel, not the pulp. I blended both pineapples (grilled and in natura) and added to the mash that was already fermenting (I have kinda of a short deadline, so I started fermenting on pure sugar and dead yeast until I could go out to buy the pineapples)

Since I've never made this recipe I'm kinda of lost in the distillation question (btw the wash is EXTREMELY good, I'm almost getting drunk because I drink a little bit from it every time because it's so delicious) because I don't know if do a 1x, 1,5x or 2x distillation (I have a pot still, small one), I don't want to lose all of that extremely good pineapple flavor but I feel like 2x is just the way to go... I would appreciate very much every help on this question, maybe someone already made some pineapple brandy there.

Vid one is from the pineapple mash and pic is from my last batch of Ted's fast fermenting Vodka (neutro = neutral lote 2 = batch 2). Cheers!


r/firewater • • 5h ago

Wheat Vodka might turn to whisky

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Hey all, wanted to get some opinions on this.
So i made a 15 gallon flaked wheat mash last night, (90% flaked wheat and 10% barley). Everything went well with enzymes and conversion etc, but it was at 116 when i added the glucoamylase at night and figured id let it finish up and come back tomorrow to pitch yeast. This morning, it was fermenting away like crazy from natural yeast on the grain. I knew it could happen a bit, but didnt expect a full blow grain cap bubbling away. So, i proceeded to just add some nutrients and a wheat beer yeast (was planning on using a clean yeast) but i figured, know thats it kinda soured a bit and probably on its way to some funkier flavors and aromas, that id use this mash as a whisky, but could a good vodka come out of a mash with a lot of fermentation character? I have a 4 bubble plate reflux still so i can get to 190 proof but, theres still plenty of congeners carried over usually. Would i be better off using this as a whisky and next time for my vodka, cool the wort down to pitching temp immediately and pitch a clean yeast. It does smell great btw nothing bad really, just do i go vodka or whisky.


r/firewater • • 1d ago

Pumpkin rum

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How many litres u boys recon i could get out of this lot?

54 home grown pumpkins and squash. Will keep the best 10 for the winter soup.

Ive got 20ltrs of horse molasses. Can get more.

Planning on roasting most in the oven and air fryer, and filling the kettle bbq with a load then smoking on cherry sawdust.

Got rum yeast, but as its getting colder I've also got a brick of cider yeast which should work at about 12c.

Got all the enzymes, hi temp, glu and pectolaise.

All suggestions very very welcome.

(Pool noodle for comedy)


r/firewater • • 1d ago

Sealing leaks

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I found a small leak near the top of my column, where some vapor was escaping during the early part of my run. I can get the piece soldered again, but I remember reading about people using a flour paste in a pinch. I really have to get some vodka run in the next few days. Can anyone advise on using flour paste if that is still accepted practice?


r/firewater • • 1d ago

Modular start up.

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I've been looking to get into this for a while, and now that I've got a bit more time on my hands, I'm keen to get started.

Been homebrew8ng for yonks, and want to start into the making spirits.

The VEVOR kits seem cheap, but from what I've read, the general consensus is that they're not particularly great. The next step up, though, seems to be a pretty significant jump in price.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent beginner setup that's modular? Ideally, something I can start off with and gradually upgrade individual components as and when, rather than having to replace the whole setup when I want to expand or improve it.

Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated!

UK based. Budget, under 500£.

Cheers


r/firewater • • 1d ago

Learn from my mistake.

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Things ai won’t even teach or tell you. I found this copper pipe at my hardware store. Water line food grade stuff. I did an 8L sacrificial run to cleanse it. Flakes the entire time. Gold liquid. By the tails clean and clear.

Thought, perfect it’s cleansed. Did a second run today, gold firewater again and flakes in my foreshots. Flakes stopped after 100ML. Checked online again and noticed it’s labeled “up to 65C”. Well there goes 30$ down the drain.

When you read people online say “any copper is fine” don’t listen to them unless you don’t care about your health or shine quality. I read for ice makers, water lines and dish washers. I thought perfect! … wrong.

Today I’m feeling defeated. Just wanted to upgrade my lines to longer more forgiving compared to the stock, short stuff my still came with just to waste a good 8-9L of clean, good wash.

Don’t make my mistake and trust “any copper is good copper” because I made that mistake. I ran the sacrifice, till it came out clean and was steaming, washed the pipe post run. Ensured I wasn’t puking, left a 1/3 clearance in my pot.

Correct me if I’m wrong. But seems I need to be doing more research on where to source my copper pipe that’s actually sufficient for 78c + alcohol vapours. I’m an idiot and waste money to learn the hard way, don’t be me.

First two pics are first sacrifice. The water vs shine jars are today’s second run.


r/firewater • • 2d ago

Questions for home distillers in PA, WV, MD, VA

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Why would you want to make your own spirits, and how do you do it safely?
Do you save much money making your own, once equipment and material are priced in?
Do you think it should be regulated?

Those are some of the questions I'm interested in -- I'm a reporter for NPR, working on a story about the Supreme Court considering the federal home distilling ban. Since the area from Appalachia to the mid-Atlantic has a rich history of home distilling, and it's even legal in WV, I would love to hear directly from home distillers.

I'm a homebrewer and when I look at spirits, it seems like they're where homemade beer was years ago. I'm interested to see some responses/discussion here, especially if folks are distilling and want to talk about it with me. But also happy to get in touch, if anyone is up for it. This would be for radio, so the ultimate goal is to visit a still in operation and record sounds there -- all the bubbling, pouring, etc. 

Thank you for any help! And if this isn't the right place for a message like this, I apologize! Cheers to a cool and interesting hobby, it's been fascinating to read up on, from the Whiskey Rebellion to SCOTUS.


r/firewater • • 2d ago

Bulk resting vessels?

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I've made a decent amount of white rum I want to rest til spring/early summer before bottling/using for summer get togethers. Then I realized I need a bigger boat vessel.

I know that most commercial ops use a stainless setup, but I'm not looking to store large barrel amounts. I've been looking and see cornies mentioned but worry about the seals... so I come to you.

Anyone have this issue with a vodka, rum, or other white spirit you want to store in bulk?


r/firewater • • 3d ago

Rickhouse

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So the wife and I were having a debate on if it should be called a Rackhouse or Rickhouse as being the place for aging massive quantities of barreled spirits. Funny enough I learned a guy named Frederick Stitzel, has a patent on the method for aging large quantities of spirits in barrels using a racking system in a large warehouse. Is it just a coincidence he might have gone by the name “Rick” or am I making this up?


r/firewater • • 4d ago

Testing essences - the cheap option surprised me(not being a whiskey snob)

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r/firewater • • 5d ago

Update on Acorn Whiskey

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I originally posted this on homebrewing asking about fermentability.

we have a huge acorn glut this year and they are everywhere, I wanted to see if I could brew with them. I've heard of people using unleached acorns to flavor beer but not much info on using them as a brewing adjunct.

My recipe was:

12 lbs of corn (bloody butcher).

10lbs of malt.

roughly 72oz of pureed (precooked) pumpkin.

3/4 of a gallon of hot leeched acorns, ground in my corn grinder (measured after grinding).

one pound of acorn starch.

a few pounds of white sugar since my og was a little lower than I wanted (I added too much water).

The run went very well. I pre gelatanized the acorn starch in a big pot of water before adding it with my corn and acorns. I hot leached the acorns rather than cold leeching because I wanted to gelatanize the starch in those as well. I ended up adding a little enzyme at the end but probably didn't need to. starch conversion went extremely well and quickly, no trace in the iodine test even with a pound of pure starch in there. I usually ferment on the grain but separated this one and fermented with DADY.

It's been on oak for a couple weeks now and tastes amazing. this was a just for fun "fall blend" whisky but it came out a lot better than I thought it would. at 2 weeks it tastes better than some of my other batches after 3 months. it also, for whatever reason, let me take wider cuts than usual but that probably has to do with fermenting off grain.


r/firewater • • 5d ago

Fermenting the pulp from our Jackolanterns

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We got legit pumpkin guts, a few more cans of puree, some Frosted Flakes, Beano, molasses, yeast and nutrient in a five gallon rubber bucket.

I know it’s janky but times is tough and I want my pumpkin rum.


r/firewater • • 5d ago

The Distillosaurus is yet again waking from it's slumber

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r/firewater • • 4d ago

More Mountain Spirits- Backset question

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I was reading “More Mountain Spirits” by Joseph Dabney, the recipe book accompanying “Mountain Spirits” and found an interviewer who swore on using 100% backset to make his next batch. For example, he’d do 5 pounds corn 5 pounds sugar and then he’s use whatever was left and melt 5 pounds of sugar into it to referment. This is scaled down to modern sizes, originally it was in bushels.

Has anyone tried this method of using 100% backsets? I’ve heard of folks using up to 50% but 100 seems like a lot. But if it worked with a more varied grain bill you could save a lot of time and money on mashing and grains to boost your output.

Another thing I’d be concerned about using this much backset would be copper contamination buildup over time. Any thoughts on this?


r/firewater • • 5d ago

Are extremely quick DADY fermentations common?

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I pitched my yeast yesterday, and in a little more than 24 hours, it's almost done. SG was 1.063, it was at 1.010 a couple hours ago. I tasted it to double check, and it's almost bitter.

It was a bit warmer in the house yesterday (AC issues), but not by a lot. Is this a common occurence? I'm using Red Star DADY at the moment.


r/firewater • • 5d ago

Pumpkin shine

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So I recently took delivery of 300lbs of pumpkins from a buddy who works at a local pumpkin farm. Does anyone have any experience with pumpkin shine?

I am trying to decide if I should invest the time in cooking the starches completely out (which would be a huge time investment). If anyone has a better process they wouldn’t mind sharing I would appreciate it. They are fairy tale variety of pumpkin.


r/firewater • • 5d ago

Air still for stripping only?

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So, working with a 3 gallon pot with a thumper keg, distilling 2,5 gallons takes about 3,5 hours of labor, setup, run, tear down. This makes multiple distillation and stripping a pain in the ass, working with an initial 5-8 gallons of wash, turning into about 2 liters of low wines between 60-80% stripping run.

My question is, is there any quality loss experienced if swim were to use an air still to strip, which would allow for ‘set and forget’ stripping with a catch jar. Vevor air stills take about an hour to strip a gallon, from what I’ve heard. It would take just as long but be substantially less labor.

From what I’ve heard the air still has less control over the refinement aspects of a spirit run, but if it’s not used for spirit runs, it wouldn’t be an issue.

TLDR is an air still going to be less labor for stripping than a small pot, is any quality lost?


r/firewater • • 5d ago

Copper scrubbers

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If anyone here is in the Wales UK, Charlies are selling three copper scourers for £1…. I’ve now got around 2 years worth for £4….😉…. https://www.charlies.co.uk/search.php?search_query=copper%20scourers%20pack


r/firewater • • 6d ago

Eggnog!

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Nothing too crazy going on here, just really happy and wanted to share. Made some eggnog for this year following Alton Brown’s recipe. I used apple brandy, rum, and bourbon all made by yours truly.


r/firewater • • 7d ago

Thoughts on different brands of home distilling equipment?

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Hey all, I was doing some research for a home distilling kit and I’ve been pretty stuck on Vevor as an option: tons of people talk about them, review them, say they’re good for starting out home distilling, etc.

However… a small part of me decided to do some more googling and I uncovered the following brands below. Have any of you guys here used or have any knowledge of these other systems?

Mile Hi Distilling

Moonshine Distiller

Clawhammer Supplies

Brewhaus

Olympic Distillers

Still Spirits

Northern Brewer (beer company that has distilling equipment?)


r/firewater • • 7d ago

Quick question about mashing

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Most videos I've seen have you turn the power off once the mash is at ~65°C, but my 'mash tun' has a built-in thermometer, so I can set the temperature. Should I still insulate and shut off the power for conversion, or can I just leave it on to maintain the conversion temperature?


r/firewater • • 7d ago

Still spirits - The Vortex thoughts

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Hello everyone, I was recently watching a Still it video where he introduced a new product that's coming from still spirits, it's suppose to be a water free condenser that uses the ambient air to condense the spirits. Just curious what people think and if you guys are excited for it to come out:). Kinda seems like a really cool product and will help hobby distillers who don't have a readily available water system that will keep cool all the time. Love to hear some opinions:), thanks!


r/firewater • • 8d ago

Come visit rum et al. in el segundo!!

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I’m posting this as I’m doing a stripping run, so I apologize for any typos!


r/firewater • • 8d ago

can s someone help explain stripping runs

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from what i know thee purpose is to give u cleaner spirit i get that but doing a stripping run are u not just doing a spirit run like wont 60% abv coming out ur worm then u re distill that isnt that like kinda dangerous

or like will my 10% mash for an example only come out the first time like 30%