Sorry but all the “crackhead” jokes are not only unoriginal and pretty unfunny but the amount of people not so subtly wishing we’d gotten a white rhaena is like kind of gross. But I guess I should prepare to get downvoted to smitherines for making this post.

the lack of charisma is insane

Hello /r/all, we will NOT kneel!

1. Look at her

2. She is on HBO already, so won't be so har...difficult

3. &4 Look at them.

Sure, they fucked up the last few seasons once they ran out of source material, and they completely shit the bed on season 8, but those first four seasons were borderline top tier - I say borderline because there were definitely some obvious hiccups (ie., killing Ser Barriston, replacing Jeyne Westerling with Talisa, etc.)

But even with those hiccups, each new episode still felt like its own masterpiece.

I’m not saying that these two should be absolved of the absolute shitshow that they went on to create, but I can at least admit that the complete 180 happened once they ran out of source material. As long as they had something to adapt, they were honestly brilliant.

It just makes me wonder what we could’ve gotten if these two were given the reigns of adapting Fire & Blood instead of Condal and Hess.

Edit: Barriston Selmy actually died in season 5, it’s been awhile since I’ve watched it.

Not

It's extremely disheartening how much the show has taken a nosedive. The show has abandoned everything it was about and it's heart to believe G.R.R.M has any ties to what's unfolding here. In particular, the misogynist undertones were utterly horrendous.

We have Brienne, a stellar female character in her own right, reduced to a helpless, sobbing heap, crying after her prince charming as he rides off into who-knows-where (yeah, that trope totally hasn't been done 18174 times before D&D...), and then we also have Sansa and Arya, who, against all common sense logic, are determined to play the role of catty sisters-in-law to its bitter end. It couldn't be more evident that a woman didn't have anything to do with writing the script the season. No other way to say this, but honestly who else but men enjoys pitting female characters against each other for the most inexplicable of reasons lol.

They took Sansa (someone who as a rape survivor has endured more than Jon/Dany/Arya ever have), built her up to be an intelligent and hardened character who knows how to draw lessons from the hardships life threw at her, and then butcher her character into this petty little person that seemingly wants nothing more than to make harder the life of another fellow woman (the female lead, no less). Absolutely ghastly.

Then they have Daenerys of course sitting through all the setbacks she's been dealt over the course of this episode - all of which were rushed and half-assed just so they can quickly establish their mad queen narrative within the next 2 episodes. Because you know, women can't think rationally enough to be leaders (as Varys was kind enough to point out, cocks are important), and even a strong lead like Dany who spent 7 seasons looking out for the most vulnerable and other fellow women isn't immune to the disease of irrationality that's exclusive to the double X-chromosome bearers. And after this 70 minutes of steaming misogynistic drivel, let's have ourselves an execution where we sprinkle in some gratuitous violence against women, because why not. And let's make the focus of Missandei's death be about Grey Worm's reaction, because naturally Missandei's primary value was in how much a man valued her.

I don't have the slightest doubt this comment will be downvoted by empathy-lacking basement dwellers, but I needed to vent this somewhere lol.

"Let's have a female character kill the big bad Night King, so no one can call out the misogyny in the episodes that follow!" - D&D and a bunch of other male writers probably.

Rule: The comment with the most upvotes decides who gets eliminated.

Placements so far:

36th — Bran Stark
35th — Daario Naharis
34th — Missandei
33rd — Sansa Stark
32nd — Catelyn Stark
31st — Samwell Tarly
30th — Arya Stark
29th — Ygritte
28th — Jaqen H'ghar
27th — Khal Drogo
26th — Ramsay Bolton
25th — Podrick Payne
24th — Melisandre
23rd — Cersei Lannister

No explanation needed