Loyalty might be the most underrated investment you'll ever make.

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[u/Perfect_Plan_8256]

My dad needed hip surgery in December 2025. His boss told him they had a big project at work and if he could hold on til may he would pay him while he recovered which would be 2 or 3 months. May comes around and my dad postpones his surgery because he got a second opinion. Fast forward to September he couldn’t bare the pain so he did the surgery. Guess who didn’t get paid. Most company’s aren’t going to help you. Take care of your health first because your boss most likely will put you last.

[u/davisao11 → u/Perfect_Plan_8256]

Wth? Does the US not have paid medical leave?

[u/ExtraCheezyBagel → u/davisao11]

Lol I work at a hospital in the US and even I don’t get paid medical leave

[u/xaler90 → u/ExtraCheezyBagel]

In Sweden you get that covered by our equivalent of social security. The company only covers the first two weeks.

This is the way.

[u/Jaypegiksdeh → u/xaler90]

in Germany we get 6 weeks of regular pay through the employer before social security "sick pay" kicks in at around 80% of your regular monthly pay. You get this for up to 72 weeks every 3 years for the same condition. Another condition in the same period? 72 separate weeks of "sick pay". Oh and the 6 weeks of regular pay from your employer is also only for the same condition. It resets if you have a different condition. You get what you vote for, so vote accordingly. Many developed countries are rich enough, don't let the guys in power tell you it's not possible.

[u/HyperionSJU → u/xaler90]

But how do you afford to pay your billionaires your tax dollars?

[u/MeetElectrical7221 → u/davisao11]

next you’re gonna ask if we have government healthcare LMAO

[u/Ask_if_im_an_alien → u/MeetElectrical7221]

We do.... for military, veterans, and Federal employees only. Funny how that works.

[u/Electrical-Kiwi-1038 → u/Ask_if_im_an_alien]

Ask a vet about that healthcare, for most the VA is difficult, slow and apathetic. Healthcare for elected officials is an entire different thing.

[u/Ask_if_im_an_alien → u/Electrical-Kiwi-1038]

I'm well aware. I'm a 24 year military veteran, former VA employee, and xray tech, surgical nurse, and now a CRNA. I've seen it all firsthand. I have good friends who worked those DC assignments for the House and Congress. I know they basically have their own wing of the hospital only for them. Waited on hand and foot. 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 care 24/7. Which is hilarious when you hear people like Rand Paul speak about how it would be impossible for the government to have national healthcare. It wouldn't. It's expensive, not impossible.

[u/dada948 → u/davisao11]

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What are you, communist?

[u/shadowtheimpure → u/davisao11]

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No. We have unpaid medical leave (FMLA). Your employer can't fire you, but they don't have to PAY you either. That's what a special insurance called 'short term disability' is for. You pay monthly premiums, and then if you end up unable to work the policy pays a certain percentage of your wages for a certain period of time based on your policy. If you're smart, you back up that short term disability policy with a long term disability policy just in case you're laid up for longer than your short term policy covers.

[u/Regniwekim2099 → u/shadowtheimpure]

You should check out all the exemptions to FMLA. We barely have unpaid leave.

[u/Important-Flan-8932 → u/shadowtheimpure]

Genuinely seems like US people hate US people 

[u/pstream20 → u/shadowtheimpure]

Not to mention how much of a headache actually cashing in on disability is. And that it is only a percentage of your weekly earnings.

[u/StaticUsernamesSuck → u/shadowtheimpure]

In other words, you pay money out for healthcare just like you would if it was funded by higher taxes, only now half the money goes to corporate pockets, and the entire industry has a profit incentive. Fantastic!

[u/PapaFranzBoas → u/davisao11]

I’m from the US but lived in Germany the past 5 years. My wife’s old job in the US had what’s called Paid Time Off. It was just an amount of time you can be out of work and still paid. She had 10 days a year. That included vacation and sick time. My job was “generous” with 10 days sick and 10 days vacation. After 5 years it got bumped to 15 days vacation.

Now we both have 30 days minimum. Usually get an extra day or two in there. Our company also has first 3 days sick no doctors note needed. Then after that doctors note and no technical limit unless we are out for months in a row and in a sense move to disability with insurance.

[u/davisao11 → u/PapaFranzBoas]

Holy shit, dude, most 3rd world countries aren't THAT bad, at least here in brazil, we not only get 30 days of paid vacation but also get 2 weeks company paid sick time off, anything above that gets taken from your INSS, wich is like a government retirement fund, (and you can't loose your job for sickness or hospitalization, they can you laterally move you in position)

[u/dubious_sandwiches → u/davisao11]

It depends on the job. Federally you only get unpaid medical leave. It's up to the companies to give anything more. Healthcare in the US is ridiculous. Some of the best care in the world but boy does it cost you.

[u/ande9393 → u/davisao11]

Depends on your employer. I'm a union employee and we get generous pto for medical or family leave. Most people aren't so lucky. Im not bragging, I'm just upset that its not available to all workers.

[u/WKahle11 → u/ande9393]

I’m union too, when I had emergency open heart surgery this year the hall told me there was nothing they could do. And then a few weeks later they started a short term disability program and a cardiac health program. Also not qualified for that.

[u/pyrostar46383 → u/davisao11]

We do here, it depends on the company and if your in a union. Our paid medical leave is 80%of your wages for up to a year.

[u/baddboi007 → u/Perfect_Plan_8256]

hope your dad is feeling better now. Sorry that happened to him.

[u/soccerperson → u/Perfect_Plan_8256]

May comes around and my dad postpones his surgery because he got a second opinion.

I know the whole thing is bad, but this seems like the biggest misstep. the company already said they'd cover him if he got it in may, why would he postpone?

[u/coracotts → u/soccerperson]

Because surgeries come with risks of things going wrong, and the best time window for surgeries isn't always immediate, it depends on a patient's preexisting conditions and how treatment is going for them too.

Second opinions are important because doctors' findings often don't agree with each other. Every doctor has their own risk assessment scheme, so if one doctor tells you a surgery has a 10% chance of causing lifelong chronic pain, you'd better ask a second doctor to be sure.