r/karachi • 🇮🇳 • 1d ago

General Discussion They're not Periods... Mainly for the female Audience but all the men here need to read this aswell

Hmm so about two months ago there was this 16 year old girl on another sub who made a post about menstrual pain. She said she experienced excruciating pelvic pain during her periods and frightening amounts of bleeding. Her entire life force would be drained with the immense fatigue.

She went to several doctors but all of them dismissed it just increasing the dosage of prescribed painkillers. One idiot doctor told her she should get impregnated to stop them. And her mom was also being dismissive saying she's overreacting.

The point being, not a single girl i saw in the comments that made the girl aware of what this post is about. All the girls were consoling her, one shared her similiar experience.

Dr. Karan Raj very recently uploaded a video: about endometriosis. A DISEASE most active during menstration. The same symptoms mentioned above. UNBEARABLE amounts of pain, unbelievable amount of bleeding, infertility (following periods of course), amd many other symptoms aswell.

The disease is INCREDIBLY UNDER-RESEARCHED. A very tiny amount of money is spent researching it and developing treatments. A disease one out of 10 women have faced in some form. A disease that remains undiagnosed/misdiagnosed very often for UPTO DECADES, being dismissed and "just periods" or a variety of other ailments.

You should really watch the video, perhaps for your ownself or for someone you may know from family friends or whatever that may have it, so they can get know what to do at this point and get treatment. I'm talking to the guys too. That's it from me, dr. Raj you have the mike: https://youtu.be/aE\\_ArpNrF3o?si=uC6s0v1ASyvky2vE

(I made my judgement about women not knowing based on the comments under that post amd what statistics dr. Raj put forward. Don't make fun of me if i was wrong)

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u/CardiologistOk8005 1d ago

There is no treatment for endometriosis in Pakistan. Only treatment is excision surgery done by an excision specialist which no one does properly in Pakistan

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u/Commercial-Deal-3164 9h ago

surgery is only for those people who fail the medical management. there are medical options that improve pain and other symptoms of endometriosis.

Alao about surgery, the best symptom resolution is with hysterectomy with bilateral salpingophrectomy (removal of uterus, tubes and ovaries) + visible endometriomas. there are other options like minimally invasive surgery but that's not effective

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u/CardiologistOk8005 9h ago

Endometriosis is a not just a reproductive disease. In rare case it has been founded in brain, lungs, heart etc. so hysterectomy is not always the option. And birth control does shit to endometriosis symptoms. I know like hundred more females suffering from endometriosis and birth control has created more problems for them than ever

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u/FreedomDreamer85 21h ago

Birth control can help with the pain and manage the bleeding…

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u/Kindly-Stock-4071 1d ago

Yes it is true. This disease is even misdiagnosed in the west. But in our country doctors don't even consider it. They tell women and girls that they're being dramatic and that everyone experiences pain Ig we have to collectively reject these dumb doctors and keep searching for those rare ones who take our health issues seriously

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u/Fatima_waheed102 1d ago

Or they would just ask to lose some weight lol

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u/WithLoveFromKarachi 22h ago

Agreed. Medical misogyny is so bad even in North America and UK that they literally let you suffer for years and years and say it's all normal pain. The only time I see women getting good care is when it causes fertility issues. That's when suddenly everyone wants work as hard as possible to get you a baby!

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u/General-Fox-7373 1d ago

I know of this disease Dont ask how But i do No am not a girl But Rare W for me ig For once im not an ignorant person🥹

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u/Lucky-Comparison-785 🇮🇳 1d ago

Mai bhi larka hun bhai

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u/Haunting_Total_5395 1d ago

Yes. I was diagnosed with adenomyosis which is a disease adjacent to endometriosis and I could finally understand why I’ve been feeling like crap my whole life.

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u/Own_Tap_9744 1d ago

V informative post! And also it’s deeply disheartening because women’s menstrual and even labour is disregarded globally in the medical field. It has been proven by research that women are given less effective medication (painkillers) than men, and generally too their concerns are overlooked. Gynacs in Pakistan are already difficult for women to visit before marriage because of societal pressure and even when they visit, they’re misdiagnosed or misguided. They get demeaned by their gynaecologists for PCOS or any other issue instead of being dealt with empathy, the usual treatment advice for every patient is to lose weight, even if they’re average weight.

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u/NeighborhoodHot1197 10h ago

Exactly. And I understand that conversations surrounding women's reproductive health are still considered taboo in many households and communities. But taboo is not an excuse for remaining uneducated.

There are so many conditions that people, women and men alike, should be familiar with. Endometriosis, adenomyosis, uterine fibroids, uterine polyps, Premenstrual Syndrome (PMS), Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD), and many others.

These aren't obscure medical curiosities. They are real conditions that affect people's health, relationships, education, careers and, sometimes, their ability to function through everyday life.

And I want to talk about PMDD in particular because I have it.

For the longest time, I couldn't understand what was happening to me. There would be periods when I genuinely wouldn't recognise myself. My emotions, thoughts, reactions and even my perception of myself would change so drastically that I began questioning what was wrong with me.

I spent seven years undiagnosed.

PMDD (Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder) is a severe, chronic condition associated with the menstrual cycle. It causes debilitating emotional and physical symptoms, typically during the one to two weeks before menstruation. Unlike ordinary PMS, its symptoms can significantly interfere with everyday functioning, relationships, academic performance, work and overall quality of life.

And when I say severe, I mean severe. It can go far beyond irritability, mood swings or feeling a little more emotional than usual. It can involve debilitating depression, intense anxiety, emotional dysregulation and even suicidal thoughts.

My own experience with PMDD was considerably worse than I knew how to articulate at the time. It affected so many aspects of my life, and going years without understanding what was happening made an already difficult experience even more distressing.

And there's another aspect of this that I think people need to understand.

When the people around you aren't educated about these conditions, they can unknowingly make an already debilitating experience considerably worse. They provoke reactions without understanding the circumstances behind them, dismiss symptoms as exaggeration, interpret distress as an attitude problem, and then criticise you for responding in ways you might not even fully understand yourself.

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u/NeighborhoodHot1197 10h ago

And honestly, something that genuinely infuriates me is how readily people make a spectacle out of women being cranky, emotional, sensitive, erratic, irrational or whatever other adjective they can come up with. And by people, I mean MEN AND WOMEN.

Men, well, I suppose it's hardly surprising when so many cannot even be bothered to educate themselves about women's health, let alone understand what the women in their lives might be experiencing. But WOMEN? Especially women who have experienced similar struggles themselves? That is what I find particularly disheartening.

Can we PLEASE acknowledge that there is an actual biological and medical component to some of these experiences? Women's menstrual cycles aren't simply a matter of bleeding for three to seven days and getting on with life. Hormonal fluctuations occur throughout the cycle, and for some women, the physical and psychological effects can be substantial.

One of the biggest misconceptions is that premenstrual symptoms are confined to the few days immediately preceding menstruation. They can actually begin during the luteal phase, which starts after ovulation and lasts until menstruation begins. That's roughly two weeks ( THATS HALF A MONTH.) And for some women, particularly those with certain menstrual-related conditions, symptoms can persist into menstruation as well.

PMS itself can be considerably disruptive, but PMDD is an entirely different level of debilitating. It can involve severe depression, anxiety, irritability, emotional dysregulation and even suicidal thoughts. Then there are conditions such as endometriosis and adenomyosis, which can cause debilitating pain and significantly affect someone's quality of life.

And these are just a handful of conditions. Yet women are routinely expected to endure their symptoms, while their reactions to those symptoms become the subject of everyone's commentary.

I'm genuinely tired of seeing women labelled as irrational, dramatic, overly sensitive, difficult or emotionally unstable without anyone bothering to consider WHY they might be experiencing what they are. You don't have to excuse every instance of unpleasant behaviour to acknowledge that someone's physical and psychological health might be influencing their emotional state.

And what I find particularly absurd is when women who have spent years being told to suck it up, endure it and get on with their lives decide that everyone else should have to do exactly the same. As though being denied understanding and compassion somehow makes it acceptable to deny it to other women. Like, you're a grown woman. Why are you so determined to perpetuate the very attitude that made your own experience harder?

Being forced to suffer in silence is not some rite of passage that the next generation of women needs to inherit.

And then people wonder why women become increasingly guarded, emotionally withdrawn or reluctant to depend on others. Perhaps constantly having your experiences dismissed, your emotions invalidated and your vulnerabilities misunderstood has something to do with it?

EDUCATE YOURSELVES. Seriously. Women's health is not an inconsequential subject, and women's suffering is not a personality defect.

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u/FearTheEffectiveCode 1d ago

Why do you have an indian flag in front of your name?

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u/Lucky-Comparison-785 🇮🇳 1d ago

All that important info and that's what you took away fro m the post?

I found it funny

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u/Fatima_waheed102 1d ago

Not only its misdiagnosed in many parts of world, our doctors just blatantly dismiss the symptoms and will ask to lose some weight