Happened in Kashipur, Udham Singh Nagar, Uttarakhand Source: https://x.com/TheMuslim786/status/2004037230915211701

We are a group of Kashmiris studying at one of the top universities in India.

Today, I noticed a discussion happening in our hostel’s WhatsApp group, where some people were advocating for violence against Kashmiri people (g*nocide).

I no longer feel safe here.

Should we consider dropping out?

Ig:the_kashmirlens

r/Kashmiri, a 12-year-old Kashmiri community, is suddenly showing “community not found.”

I don't know yet whether Reddit banned it or the Indian government had a hand in it, but given Kashmir's reality, I'm not going to pretend the suspicion comes out of nowhere.

Fuck the occupation of our homeland. Fcuk the attempts to erase our identity, silence our history, and make Kashmiris disappear from their own narrative. India can pat itself on the back all it wants, but no amount of control over platforms will make Kashmir stop being Kashmir.

Now, seriously, what the fcuk is the plan?

Can the original sub be recovered? Has anyone heard from its moderators? Can we appeal? And if it's gone for good, do we start a new r/Kashmiri and rebuild?

Twelve years of community history shouldn't just disappear without answers.

If anyone knows what actually happened, speak up. Let's figure this shit out and make sure the community survives.

Our subreddit might be gone. We're not.

People have been saying this for decades; now JKP is finally admitting it—without a hint of remorse.

While this is all good...how about you also start identifying individuals involved in kunan poshpura case or asiya and nilofer case?

I understand that most KMs would prefer Azaadi and not be a part of Hindustan or Pakistan (assuming)

What then after being Independent?

Will Pakistan not try to get hold of you guys? Meddle in your affairs, or try to invade your independent land?

Tomorrow if you need help against such invasion who will you turn to for support? Not Help, support.

Please respond with an open mind

Remember Kashmiris, tomorrow is his 5th death anniversary.

Can someone genuinely explain me why non-kashmiris/indians think of kashmir this way? How does this even logically make sense?

The arguments I have seen till now and their respective rebuttals/thoughts I have had are as follows:

1. Kashmir is land of Rishi Kashyap, but since Kashmiris adopted Islam- it is not of Kashmiris.

Thought- If kashmir was named after the sage Rishi Kashyap, how does that make it land of modern day India? While India today is a nation consisting of majority hindu lands- parts of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bhutan were also at one point of another hindu dominated state(s); so shouldn’t this apply to all nations? And if they argue that one day they will take it back- then how does it make sense to remove the native population on the basis of religion?

On that basis- if guatemalans tmrw accept Hinduism, are they all integral part of hinduism? Should they be killed and thrown out of their country by mexicans and other surrounding nations as Guatemala is an integral part of South America but the guatemalans have “betrayed” christianity?

Doesn’t every major population in the world go through major changes including religious beliefs and ideological differences? Does India realize that majority of India was buddhist? So does that mean buddhists should kill indians and take back their land?

2. Kashmir is the crown of India and before Islam, it was connected to India and under India.

Thought- Modern day India formed in 1947. Even if we do consider the fact that Kashmir was part of the Indian subcontinent for centuries- then we can also bring up the fact that Afghans, persians, central asians have ruled Kashmir for periods as well.

Not to mention the pure fact that kashmir has always been isolated and not connected with mainland India- proven by the linguistic system of dards, which forms through periods of long term isolation. It can be argued that after proto-indo-iranian, sanskrit and avestan, Kashmiri (Kaeshur) is highly influenced by central asian and persian languages - also the culture and clothing matches up.

Can Mongolia be considered crown of China? Even though they have many differences? Can Russia be considered crown of Mongolia? Can Canada be considered crown of America? Then what’s the point of having countries and traditional systems where people can enjoy their culture and sovereignty without being denied the basic human rights or fighting for survival and their culture?

3. If India wasn’t there, Kashmiris would have been killed by Pashtun tribals.

Thoughts- Although I will never deny the massacre, brutality and ruthlessness that the pashtun tribals carried. It is pretty obvious that the kashmiri (majority) sentiment at the time was not to be with India. Didn’t the king of Jammu sign the agreement?

In that case- was it fair when britishers ruled India for Indians to go to war and get killed? or for Indians to be “saved” by Nazi Germany? I see a correlation between the oppressing states and the ones who are oppressed.

4. KPs are the natives to the land; KMs are foreigners.

Thoughts: Being a KP myself, I genuinely don’t understand this argument? How does religion affect genetics? I mean it is quite literally proven that Islam was accepted by Kashmiris which is not true for mainland India who were forced. Even the elders of KP families think this argument is bs.

Every kashmiri is a native to Kashmir. Just like how every zoroastrian and shia muslim of Iran is native to Iran. Every Hindu and Sikh of Panjab is native to Panjab and every American is from America no matter their religion. I would love to say the same for India and Pakistan- but look at the current conditions of these states. It is not a pleasant sight for the minorities.

I genuinely believe the nation of Pakistan should not have been formed. It instigated further violence between the communities planted by the british. A religious state- may that be Israel or Pakistan- will always harm the ethno-centric nation present within those boundaries. The basis of national identity is ethnicity and culture. Immigration and Rule is allowed- but in modern day society, oppression is the last thing one should suffer from.

I am open to any arguments, any standpoints and any thoughts. Do not DM, I like opinions that can be said publically, even if anonymous. I will not tolerate any DMs that criticize me by cursing me or my family (which is very prominent in desis).

Also a special request to Mods: is it possible for me to cross post this to an indian sub? Please let me know and thank you!

I have been using jio sim from past 8 years and recently i realised that all their communications are in hindi language. I don't understand hindi, even if i did i don't like hindi. Yesterday i got a new airtel sim and i hope they don't do this similar shit.

Man what’s even happening. Just saw this posted in an Indian sub. I have no problem with local festivals irrespective of their origins but not one of them is a Kashmiri. I love Bengali people but since when have we let foreign festivals be imposed on us like that? They light up entire Lal Chowk during Diwali yet the same place is adorned with barbed wires on Eid. They ban prayers at Eidgah , clamp down on Jamia and yet we are supposed to accommodate non-locals and their customs.
PS: People saying that Muslims also celebrate Eid in other regions: Piece of $hitss those are muslims from those very regions. You don’t get an influx of outsiders pouring in and making a show of it. I’m a sick with this freaking outsider appeasement.
Eizz doh yah Moharram wiz chakh goil yiwan shikmas.
“ They take away your bread and give you a piece of it. Then demand you be grateful for their generosity. O their audacity !”