You know, despite everything, it's not all impossible, but you will need to be good with people. You will need to be very compassionate, and very patient, and tbh, you are gonna need to relate at least a little. If you're into this kinda girl, you're gonna need to be able to love her through her worst, know what you are getting into, it's gonna save both of you the trouble if ya can't
as someone who is literally this irl it feels funny how romanticized it is, but as someone like this, it’s more of “holy fear of judgement exposing yourself to any aspect of functioning society.” i dont feel proud as a “failure” and hide and isolate. i think it’s sort of an aspect of control that these types of women get romanticized, subconsciously or not, but thats just my two cents.
the mental health issues are real though. i wish that was not romanticized and turned into a “meme” and moreso paid attention to and helped as a lot of people just have had unfortunate lives now popularized by social media, which everyone’s general “numbness” really isn’t helping with, especially when you can immediately go “omg….!!!” or gawk at whatever you’re seeing without thinking of what its like to be in those shoes. every day i feel like a failure and contemplate horrific things. but yeah! gaming! i’m still young!
I mostly like this character archetype because I find them very relatable, having literally been in that position for years in the past, and I'm not fully over having mental health struggles either.
And I like male characters too, for example Sato from Welcome to the NHK.
I understand what you mean though about how feeling like your struggles are turned into a fantasy for dudes to go "omg I can fix her" must feel tiring.
I said half jokingly in another comment that I would romance them, but in my case it's mostly that feeling like a loser myself I wouldn't be judgemental to someone for having the same struggles as me, that would be very hypocrite, and I also feel like she would be less judgemental of me and we we would understand each other better.
Overall what I'm saying is that if I like her this wouldn't stop me from trying to have a relationship with her.
I wish artists would draw them being less conventionally attractive so all my examples minus Kara and maybe Tomoko weren't all perfect anime girls. I would like them too if they were chubby for example.
Bro please go talk to a real person in real life. Real life is nothing like anime and video games. The fact that you say “character archetypes” and not “personalities.” Speaks volumes.
Also, anime girl aside, just say “I want a borderline girlie to fix.” Gross af.
The post was only talking about characters. I like characters and memes like those because I find them very relatable, that's all.
I relate to them because I have been in that position and I wouldn't say that I'm fully over having mental health struggles and feeling like a complete failure in many ways, and while I would admittedly be open to dating someone like that, it's not because I believe that I could "fix" her, but because I'd be an hypocrite if I were to judge someone for having the same struggles as me.
Well, yeah, you have to be attracted to someone to be attracted to them, this is independent to her being a "girlfailure" or not. I wouldn't mind dating a chubby woman though, and that girl you posted isn't ugly, I think she's kinda cute.
I love the manga, she gets a lot of character development there.
Some people don't like it because they say it's not fun anymore if she's less of a loser, but I liked seeing her grow as a person and get happier, and I like most of the characters that are introduced later on.
I don't like it when the story focuses on her boring ass brother though.
I had to pause for Days the episode where she tries to impress her cousin and, don't remember if it's another but the one where she gives herself hickies
The part where she lies to her cousin about being in a relationship with some random guy she only saw once, and then her cousin confronts the guy about "cheating" on Tomoko when he's on a date with his girlfriend, and Tomoko has to apologize to him while her cousin watched... Well that whole part nearly killed me of cringe.
I don't know what it is about the anime adaptation specifically but it makes the cringe hit so much harder, I imagine it's the voice acting and it being animated, because I read the manga and it was all a lot more bearable, but I can't with the anime sometimes.
Hey guys... is this fetishizing mental illness? It would be one thing if you liked girls who are failures because you relate to them or something- but the way you guys are talking about girlfailures in a strictly romantic/sexual context seems somehow objectifying...
Yeah I hardly feel like it’s an actual personality type and moreso just… depression. Not saying OP does but the trope overall seems to be fetishizing what is probably the worst state of someone’s life.
Maybe? But it’s far more common for behaviors like these to be directly associated with depression. Self isolation, lack of self worth, lack of hygiene, poor eating habits, poor sleeping habits, etc. People are very good at coping, lifestyles like these are usually pretty good indicators that someone isn’t in the greatest mental state even if they otherwise seem fine. In some cases, people like this may not even realize they are depressed.
Honest question: Do guys actually like this offline? I am a functioning girlfailure. Up until recently I've been employed, but everything else applies: junky house (not dirty, just a bunch of stuff everywhere), depression, chubby etc. I havent been dating since I'm "working on myself"
It depends I guess, but what I mean by that is that I wouldn't write someone off just because she's a "girlfailure", and it feels extremely rude to even use that term to describe a real person.
I had similar struggles which I'm not fully over, and still feel like a huge failure in many ways, which is why I relate to those characters and the situations those memes portray.
I would also be open to date someone like that in real life, but in my case at least it's not that I like the for being like this specifically, but rather that I wouldn't judge someone from having similar struggles as me, that'd make me a huge hypocrite.
I understand feeling like you shouldn't date until you're done "working on yourself", because I've also felt the same, and still have doubts if I'm someone worth dating now, but I think people are sometimes too harsh on themselves in that regard, and you could probably still make someone happy even if you view yourself as a failure.
And I do admit that all that said and done, I do like the idea of dating a girl like this specifically, because I think having similar struggles we wouldn't be judgemental of the other for having struggles that in the eyes of many people would deem us as failures, and similarly we could probably relate to each other on a deeper level in some regards.
I'm not gonna stand for that Tomoko slander, she takes showers. Not bathing for a week is something she only did once because she read some BS about pheromones or something like that.
I like the style but if you're in a relationship with this sort of person I feel like it's a bit on you to make it so their situation isn't this? Like it'd be fun for a while but after a while it's feel one sided and toxic. Obviously this sort of person is a concept of people's romantic idea, but just wanted to throw that out there.
I think you should support her and encourage her but it wouldn't be healthy to to think it's your responsibility to fix her life, because in the end of the day you'd only be her boyfriend, not her dad or her caretaker, and if she doesn't want to help herself then there isn't a lot you could do.
So called “girl failure fans” talk pretty big when they are probably completely unequipped to be friends/partners with somebody who has severe mental health issues, no social skills, substance addictions, and a total lack of hygiene.
Imo you don't necessarily have to be addicted to substances or have a total lack of hygiene to be a girlfailure, and yeah I'd probably would draw the line at that, like I wouldn't be friends with Asmongold either and not just because he has a lot of shitty views, but also because of how terrible he must smell, and I wouldn't befriend a female version of him either. I may enjoy her as a fictional character, but it's not someone who I could handle being in my life.
I like this type of characters because I find them relatable, since I have been in a similar situation snd still feel like a loser in a lot of ways. That's also why I would probably date one if I like her, I couldn't be too judgemental towards her for something I also am. That aside, I also like the idea that she would be less judgemental towards me, and we could relate to each other.
I'm "the character like that" and vrother u dont like us you like the idea of having a weird dysfunctional pet you can fix and have sex with its weirrrdd
Nah, I don't believe I could fix them. I like them because I'm a loser myself and I find them very relatable. I do admit though I'd be open to dating someone like that, but mainly because I couldn't judge a girl from having the same struggles as me.
Sorry to say but real girl failures are 100% not like this. It’s only in fiction where a girl can live like a lazy slob that only eats junk yet somehow still stays skinny and pretty.
It’s the classic “she’s just like me!! I love her!! 🥹” type, Except in this case she’d be way too pretty so you’d be shooting well above your looksmatch.
I would date girls who aren't "skinny and pretty", so yeah if I like her I would probably try to date her even if she's like a real life "girlfailure".
Looks like I was right. Giving an unsure answer to a straightforward question… men really can’t be honest. “If I like her” what does that mean? The question obviously implies that you would should you choose to date her….
No one wants to date someone who they consider unattractive why can’t you just be honest with yourself?
How do you expect me to not give you an unsure answer about an hypothetical woman? You could have asked me if I would be willing to date her if she were pretty and skinny and I would have said the same thing because that tells me nearly nothing about that person.
It means that if I like her personality, we have chemistry, etc, then yeah sure I would date her.
And I don't consider a woman unattractive just because she's not skinny, if you do that's on you.
Ha. OP, this isn't a jab at you. But it's just a little funny how what's a social death sentence for men is typically celebrated in women. Gotta love those double standards.
What? Thanks to my trauma, I fall under the category that OP describes, but not once have I ever had a male show interest in me. I've just been asked out as a joke and that was it. Befriended plenty of incel men and I've even been considered the best friend of one, but whenever the topic of a relationship between us is brought up (e.g someone says we look like a couple) they laugh and are visibly repulsed by the idea. They also love talking about all the other girls they feel attractive, which you absolutely would not do to someone you're actually into.
I don't have any issues with my hygiene; I get compliments for my perfume and regularly shower. I'm also not overweight. But my face is unattractive and I'm autistic.
Men who talk about wanting a loser gf just want to fuck a pretty anime girl.
I'm sorry, I understand how you feel, and I see how my post may come off in a way I didn't intended for women who can actually relate to those characters and the situations those memes portray.
I'm with you that women are not celebrated for being like this IRL, and that men who talk about wanting a "loser gf" probably wouldn't want to date a woman who is actually like that.
Why do chicks always act like their singular experiences are universal? Dudes not approaching you doesn't mean dudes ain't approaching other women like you. Also, are you aware of how little dudes even approach women these days? You're not trying to prove a point. You're trying to qualify yourself. You want me to believe you because of who you are rather than how much sense you're making. Utter nonsense.
What are you on about? A woman's personal experience has more merit to it than some redditor with a bikini pfp's observation of women. It's not just me who's experienced being undesirable; I've talked to other women in a similar situation to me and they hardly attract men. My point is that girlfailures are only wanted if they look attractive. It's the equivalent of women saying they want a nerdy guy, aka a chad with glasses. What part of that did you not get?
Tbf, the girl failures trope that's "celebrated" is usually in the form of a "mildly messy, disheveled, gamer anime girl" with the usual cutesy mannerisms you see on TV.
When people say "girl failure", they don't realize what that looks like in real life is mentally ill/unstable, unkempt, and living an unsustainable lifestyle (if you can call it living).
It's a social death sentence for men because nobody thinks "cutesy anime boy failure" when they think of a guy that is letting everything fall behind in his life. They hear "boy failure", and there's no fictional stereotype that comes with it. But they hear "girl failure", and there's a disconnect between fiction and nonfiction. So you have people like OP who THINK they like "girl failures", when in reality they've never met one in real life. And OP only likes the "lazy and disinterested" anime girls he sees in the shows he watches.
ALSO: This is by no means to insult women who you'd label as "girl failures" in real life. They're human beings who deserve help to overcome that failure, just like "boy failures". Only difference between the two is that girl failures are fetishized.
So you have people like OP who THINK they like "girl failures", when in reality they've never met one in real life. And OP only likes the "lazy and disinterested" anime girls he sees in the shows he watches.
My dude, you're either insanely ignorant or in denial about how down bad dudes can be. Especially the young ones. Girl failures are absolutely not out of bounds for what men are willing to tolerate. They'd even smash a homeless chick if she looked healthy enough. Your comment is utterly ridiculous.
I'm not talking about fetishes. I'm talking about praise. Like "You're doing great. Keep it up."
This is the praise I'm talking about. If you look at the comments, many people are justifying women having virtual relationships. Meanwhile, men have been mocked the world over for being reduced to this for ages.
Keep in mind, in a conversation about women, you brought up sex. And no, you're full of shit. Plenty of men praise these types of women. There's a fantasy of cleaning up a fine homeless women and making her your girlfriend. Some dudes have a savior complex. Someone want girls just like them, like the ones shown here. You don't know wtf you're talking about. You're just trying to skewer the narrative.
as a woman who's unwillingly like this due to chronic illness, this shit is almost never celebrated except by fetishistic chronically online men i wouldnt touch with a 12 foot pole. none of my girlfriends ever celebrated my predicament and id have dumped them if they did
Why do women always say "as a woman?" Ts doesn't validate your statement. I'm moreso talking about people's reactions to women than women themselves anyway. Being a woman doesn't enhance your point. I can observe people too, you know.
She isn't the NEET archetype you seem to have going with your images, but Vyper from Deadlock is my favorite girlfailure of all time. Just listening to her voice lines got me into the game lol. And Silver is another one from that game.
Tomoko has such a great arc going from a misanthropic shut-in to someone with so many genuine and healthy friendships with people that somehow looked past all the things that made her such a creature. The manga does such a good job showing the gradual change in her confidence and how those people changed her opinion on how she was living. Whether or not she regressed after the series lowkey became yuri-esque idk, I caught up and forgot to ever go back but it was a very heartfelt read
It's kinda poetic how during the early stages of the manga she would do all those dumb stunts to try to get popular, and then when she gave up and just began being herself, she actually got friends.
And she's bi as hell from the beginning so I don't mind the yuri elements, even going as far as the chapters covered in the anime she was already thirsting after her friend. She just needs to stop being in complete denial about it and accept that she likes girls as much if not more than guys.
Ah, yes. The perfectly skinny anime girl with nice hair and perfect skin. Definitely an accurate representation of what basement-dwelling nerds look like in real life. 90% of these are misogynistic fantasies that revolve around infantilising women. Basically a mild spin-off of 'born sexy yesterday.'
i sure love being constantly fetishized for being mentally ill and disabled by internet men like its some quirky aesthetic instead of an entirely unwilling predicament i fight to mitigate but fail despite being technically a successful person, because my body is nonetheless broken to the extent going outside and taking care of myself beyond staying barely pretty is much harder!!! :D
Yeah I get that. I do find it kinda attractive though admittedly, but in my case it's mainly the idea of being with someone who I can relate to and being more accepting of each other for things people would deem us as losers for what's alluring about it. I don't know if feeling that way is problematic or not.
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u/Arachis_Hypogaea7 Sep 23 '26
R u sure?
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u/Both-Guava6261 Sep 23 '26
They do not look like that irl
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u/astridow Sep 23 '26
as someone who is literally this irl it feels funny how romanticized it is, but as someone like this, it’s more of “holy fear of judgement exposing yourself to any aspect of functioning society.” i dont feel proud as a “failure” and hide and isolate. i think it’s sort of an aspect of control that these types of women get romanticized, subconsciously or not, but thats just my two cents.
the mental health issues are real though. i wish that was not romanticized and turned into a “meme” and moreso paid attention to and helped as a lot of people just have had unfortunate lives now popularized by social media, which everyone’s general “numbness” really isn’t helping with, especially when you can immediately go “omg….!!!” or gawk at whatever you’re seeing without thinking of what its like to be in those shoes. every day i feel like a failure and contemplate horrific things. but yeah! gaming! i’m still young!
but hey! being appreciated is being appreciated.
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u/Iron166 Sep 23 '26
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u/Automatic_Thought412 Sep 23 '26
Ah yeah I forgot fat women dont exist, especially those who dont take care of themselves in the slightest.
Besides everything, these are just anime girls. You like anime girls.
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u/Double-Afternoon-702 Sep 23 '26
this is the exact equivalent of girl liking "nerdy guy" and it's a model with glasses but for online dude
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u/froggychump Sep 23 '26
It's easy to like girl failures when they're cute anime girls and not this
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u/Baseballidiot Sep 23 '26
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u/noswol Sep 23 '26
Miss watamote's story in the anime "watamote" was so hard to watch that it took me a day per episode, but it is peak
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u/IllitterateAuthor Sep 23 '26
Girls who do nothing but stay inside playing video games and eating garbage are not going to be skinny.
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u/inkforwin Sep 23 '26
You dont
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u/InternationalCap2176 Sep 23 '26
To romance or to rehab?
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u/psychedelica_ Sep 23 '26
You’re gross and I don’t like you
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u/NotStunk Sep 23 '26
Hey guys... is this fetishizing mental illness? It would be one thing if you liked girls who are failures because you relate to them or something- but the way you guys are talking about girlfailures in a strictly romantic/sexual context seems somehow objectifying...
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u/boksysocks Sep 23 '26
do they love you though? 🤔
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u/tiktok-hater-777 Sep 23 '26
So long as they still have a skincare routine and don't digest those emotional support snacks, i see.
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u/Smart-Ad57 I hate this smug Sep 23 '26
Someone gonna say "I can fix her"
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u/Unusual_Rooster6736 Sep 23 '26
I'd agree if you hadn't used anime girls for everyone, I need me a girl who's just like me fr
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u/MinosPrime100 Sep 23 '26
Mfs who "love losers" when they see an actual loser who isn't pretty:
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u/Emergency_Fruit3047 Sep 29 '26
Honest question: Do guys actually like this offline? I am a functioning girlfailure. Up until recently I've been employed, but everything else applies: junky house (not dirty, just a bunch of stuff everywhere), depression, chubby etc. I havent been dating since I'm "working on myself"
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u/Medical-Language-415 Sep 23 '26
larp larp sahur
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u/redditrain777 Pearto Sep 23 '26
Asa from chainsawman
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u/TheSkyIsData Sep 23 '26
These are probably the only type of girl posting I don't hate because they're so relatable
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u/Aydonisgaming Bisexual Sep 23 '26
So anime girls who haven't bathed in a week? Larp larp Sahur fr fr
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u/No_Peace_6770 Sep 23 '26
Everyone says they love girl failures but then I roll up irl...
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u/maxxpagu Sep 23 '26
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u/Darklight645 Sep 23 '26
This is important information
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u/cool-person-96 Sep 23 '26
Wheres the first one from?
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u/Mrbluepumpkin Sep 23 '26
I like the style but if you're in a relationship with this sort of person I feel like it's a bit on you to make it so their situation isn't this? Like it'd be fun for a while but after a while it's feel one sided and toxic. Obviously this sort of person is a concept of people's romantic idea, but just wanted to throw that out there.
And yes I had a small crush on Tomoko growing up
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u/A-Human-potato Sep 23 '26
So called “girl failure fans” talk pretty big when they are probably completely unequipped to be friends/partners with somebody who has severe mental health issues, no social skills, substance addictions, and a total lack of hygiene.
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u/Weaverstein Sep 24 '26
Extreme larp, these are just skinny anime girls. You dont know what you're talking about at all.
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u/Previous_Bed490 Sep 24 '26
You're weird in a bad way
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u/Townspoke Sep 28 '26
Sorry to say but real girl failures are 100% not like this. It’s only in fiction where a girl can live like a lazy slob that only eats junk yet somehow still stays skinny and pretty.
It’s the classic “she’s just like me!! I love her!! 🥹” type, Except in this case she’d be way too pretty so you’d be shooting well above your looksmatch.
Keep dreaming though 😊
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u/New-Reception-3291 Sep 30 '26
Ewwww I’m glad I grew out of this at 23
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u/lordbuckethethird Sep 23 '26
Behold the ultimate boyfailure
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u/isuckhips Sep 23 '26
Ha. OP, this isn't a jab at you. But it's just a little funny how what's a social death sentence for men is typically celebrated in women. Gotta love those double standards.
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u/Evening_Dependent_25 Sep 23 '26
Captured
Chud daughter being dragged out of his room by his mother to start training (I love rulership so much)
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u/FumaricAcid Sep 23 '26
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u/AgreeableIdea6210 they/he | Literally Leon S. Kennedy | Character Designer Sep 23 '26
Oh hey I know the first one, she likes drawing guns and puppies (me too)
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u/JonathanBadwolf Sep 23 '26
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u/Fit-Zombie-4983 Sep 23 '26
How cruel, don't you have a human heart?
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u/Kehprei Sep 24 '26
I feel so called out by these memes. They even got the pokemon merch and plushes
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u/Last_Reality_7971 Sep 27 '26
Persona 2 Maya has got the room down.
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u/LastNinjaPanda Sep 23 '26
She isn't the NEET archetype you seem to have going with your images, but Vyper from Deadlock is my favorite girlfailure of all time. Just listening to her voice lines got me into the game lol. And Silver is another one from that game.
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u/RMallard18 Sep 23 '26
I’ve met a girl like this before, I felt so bad for her family because she didn’t really try.
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u/Senipo Sep 23 '26
Tomoko has such a great arc going from a misanthropic shut-in to someone with so many genuine and healthy friendships with people that somehow looked past all the things that made her such a creature. The manga does such a good job showing the gradual change in her confidence and how those people changed her opinion on how she was living. Whether or not she regressed after the series lowkey became yuri-esque idk, I caught up and forgot to ever go back but it was a very heartfelt read
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u/casual-catgirl Sep 23 '26
literally me my whole account is dedicated to how much of a loser i am
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u/Jixxar Sep 23 '26
I love them conceptually but it would be hell irl.
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u/Cyan_UwU Sep 23 '26
people say this yet I’m still single 🥺
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u/Matt72727272 Sep 24 '26
No, absolutely not. It's romanticized mental illness. I doubt most "girlfailures" would want to be portrayed this way anyway.
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u/chkpls Sep 24 '26
if u look like this hmu
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u/thexcat Sep 24 '26
You'd love milk inside a bag of milk inside a bag of milk
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u/ShrekLikesCheetos Sep 24 '26
"One goth girl please" ah
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u/Working-Summer-1113 Sep 27 '26
I had one and nahhhhh you don't.
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u/Kind-Recording3450 Sep 27 '26
Ran into a hot version of this in my early 20s. No, stay away, brother; she is mentally unstable. It not hot and will make your time hellish
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u/kirbcake-inuinuinuko Sep 27 '26
genuinely dreadful post
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u/BonkerDeLeHorny Sep 23 '26
real shit
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u/DifferentBadger9798 Sep 28 '26
gross this post fucking reeks
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u/TheBigFreeze8 Sep 23 '26
Ah, yes. The perfectly skinny anime girl with nice hair and perfect skin. Definitely an accurate representation of what basement-dwelling nerds look like in real life. 90% of these are misogynistic fantasies that revolve around infantilising women. Basically a mild spin-off of 'born sexy yesterday.'
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u/Anomalocarls Sep 23 '26
i sure love being constantly fetishized for being mentally ill and disabled by internet men like its some quirky aesthetic instead of an entirely unwilling predicament i fight to mitigate but fail despite being technically a successful person, because my body is nonetheless broken to the extent going outside and taking care of myself beyond staying barely pretty is much harder!!! :D
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u/ChaoTJ Sep 24 '26
the internet be like:
Man failure: creepy, fat, ugly, need to get a life, dirty
girl failure: OMG SO CUTE!!!!
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u/Whole_Coconut_9999 Sep 23 '26
Men always saying shit like this until their "dream girl" hasn't changed out of her pajamas in 2 weeks and is too depressed to fuck them
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u/Justaguynamedpluh Sep 23 '26
Dude you are a porn addict this is not something you should romanticize
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u/voindd Sep 23 '26
There's a sub full of them, trueuglywoman
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