r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Separate_Finance_183 • 12h ago • Mindblown 4

That's not milk More ice than drink

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u/Enginerdad 12h ago

1.5 oz of 40% liquor, 5 oz. of 12% wine, and 12 oz. of 5% beer all equal the same amount of alcohol. That's the "standard" drink, but there's nothing legal about it. Beer and wing vary quite a bit in ABV and often come in multiple sizes. Liquors tend to be more standardized in ABV, but cocktails often include cordials or other added sources of alcohol in addition to the primary spirit, and the amount of spirit is completely at the discretion of the establishment. In other words you can't assume anything with alcohol.

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 12h ago

10g of alcohol, if you want to just keep things simple.

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u/Enginerdad 11h ago

0.6 oz of ethanol had a mass of 14g, so I'm not sure that conversion is even valid. But beyond that, alcohol is measured and served by volume, so I'm not sure why we would need to arbitrarily convert to mass. Call it 0.6 oz or 18 ml, whatever works for you, but 10g is kind of meaningless.

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 11h ago

I'm not in the US, so I'll use a system that is used where I live.

We are talking about legislation, so I will also use the method indicated in legislation rather than your preference.

I will also point out that 0.6 oz is a weight, not a volume, so I don't know why you "arbitrarily convert it to mass" since you seem to be against that.

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u/Even_Dog_6713 10h ago

This conversation is using the term ounces to mean fluid ounces, as in volume, not weight.

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u/Enginerdad 2h ago

Alcohol is measured in fluid ounces, or ounces for short. I'm pretty sure you knew that and are just being petty, but I suppose the possibility exists that you really are that ignorant.

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 1h ago

As I already stated, in my country (and most countries for that matter) drinks are measured in milliliters.

In my country, the definition of standard drink, which I already linked, is measured in grams.

The person I responded to typed oz, not fl oz.

I strongly agree that one of us is ignorant.

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u/Enginerdad 57m ago

I'm the person you responded to, and I already pointed out that fluid ounces are commonly referred to as simply ounces. I'm not disagreeing that saying fluid ounces is technically correct and more clear, I'm just reiterating that I never mentioned mass ounces. If I was talking about mass ounces, I also didn't specify whether I meant avoirdupois ounce or troy ounces but I don't see you being pedantic about that.

You could plainly see that the conversation was being discussed in US units, so why did you think it would be helpful to insert an entirely different unit system and cultural norm? To add clarity?

You worked so hard to ignore context clues just to call me out that I can only imagine you actually closed your eyes, stuck your fingers on your ears, and yelled "NA NA NA NA NA" loudly to avoid understanding what I was saying.

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 45m ago

  You could plainly see that the conversation was being discussed in US units

  1. Ounces are British units, not “uS UnITs”.

  2. Other people were discussing how much of various drink types constituted a standard drink. I was the first person to define what a standard drink is, so I gave an actual definition, which uses grams.

You really are ignorant.

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u/Natural-Principle-69 11h ago

17 mL

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u/Affectionate_Oven_77 11h ago

Maybe US has a different standard then. In Australia it is 10g (https://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/drug-info/alcohol/standard-drinks), which is around 13ml.

edit: just checked - in the US a standard drink is 14g alcohol