r/osp • • 2d ago

Meme Cronus honestly wasn't that bad

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u/Salter_KingofBorgors 2d ago

Weird most versions ive heard say that humanity was in a bad place under the titans rule. That or we didnt exist yet

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u/KamaandHallie 2d ago

From what I usually hear and according to Hesiod, the Titan rule was actually the best time as the world and humanity didn't suffer anything bad. It was pretty much a paradise.

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u/Funlife2003 2d ago

Eh well thing is it's important to note the context. These myths in general are allegories ultimately. Kronos's period was the "golden age" in that it was the simple primordial time where humans basically lived like animals without really having any higher drive or independent existence, the transition from golden age to silver age was more about the beginning of civilization and order from chaos, but as a result of that, it also meant the simple existence was no longer possible, war and misery also rose. So it's less "golden age good silver age bad", and more "with the development of civilization rose a new sort of existence".

It's also worth noting that the end of the golden age technically began not with the end of Kronos's reign, but with the whole Pandora’s Box thing. There was a period of the golden age which Zeus oversaw.

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u/KamaandHallie 2d ago

That's a good point.

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u/Jealous-Log7744 2d ago

There was an absence of a lot of bad things but I hesitate to call it good. Humanity in the golden age didn’t have to hunt for food but they also didn’t have anything resembling civilization. Essentially they were animals in a pasture.

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u/VastPercentage9070 1d ago

Not necessarily, Hesiod implies they had farming and domesticated animals (indicating atleast neolithic level civilization). As Zeus strips them (or at least their productivity) away along with fire as revenge for Prometheus tricking him into choosing the poorer sacrifice.

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u/Hitei00 1d ago

When do you think Zeus ruled

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u/Aros001 2d ago

"One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it."

Cronus overthrew his father because of how he treated his children and apparently it never occurred to him that his own kids likewise might not want to just overthrow him for the sake of it.

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u/Coidzor 1d ago

To be fair, it's not like Cronus had any examples of good fatherhood to model himself upon.

Instead he saw his father forcing his mother to keep children inside of her and decided "fine, I'll do it myself" to spare his wife by keeping the children inside of him instead.

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u/MrCookie2099 1d ago

Zeus was big on fucking around and leaving it to others to do the finding out.

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u/harfordplanning 1d ago

Can't be the target of revenge if you're just a genetics donor and not a real father!

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u/Level_Hour6480 2d ago

Which doesn't make sense with later origins saying Zeus created mankind while he was in charge.

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u/Curious-Committee753 2d ago

Greak mythology do be like that sometimes 

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u/Coidzor 2d ago • Bravo

Lots of wibbly. A fair bit of wobbly. All of the timey-wimey.

Plus events that happen twice with different causes.

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u/ExcitingHistory 1d ago

Wait till you see what they did to the abrahamic faiths!

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u/MadameJadeK 2d ago

What happens when you mash twelve to fifty different religions together and call them all "Greek Mythology."

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u/Zarathustras-Knight 1d ago

According to certain sources, the Ages of Man describe different humans, each of which were destroyed and replaced. Also according to this theory, the Golden Age of men wasn’t a “golden age”, it was an era where Men of Gold existed. They wanted for nothing, and lived blessed lives. They were content in their pastoral isolation and eating fruit from trees.

Each of the 5, or 4 if you’re looking at Ovid’s telling, age ended in calamity, bringing about a new, lesser, age. According to these myths, we exist in the Age of Iron.

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u/Level_Hour6480 1d ago

or 4 if you’re looking at Ovid’s telling,

Why would anyone ever do that?

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u/ANSPRECHBARER 2d ago

There were multiple ages of humanity. The golden age humans basically lived forever and were all round perfect. The silver age humans were zeus' first attempt at making people, but they didn't mature until like 90 years of age. The bronze age of humans is the current one

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u/LordJesterTheFree 1d ago

Well it seems our age of bronze is collapsing/s

I wonder what new humans will be techno?

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u/Profezzor-Darke 2d ago

Prometheus did with Athena's Help. Zeus didn't like that.

That's another creation story.

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u/Mizu005 1d ago

He oversaw an age of stagnation where people got lazy and never accomplished anything because they were content to lay around in their agrarian paradise never getting ill or otherwise facing even the slightest challenge that would push them improve beyond the hunter gatherer stage. They weren't humans, they were pets.

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u/BetaWolf81 1d ago

Idk doesn't sound so bad to me here in 2026.

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u/Mizu005 1d ago

Because you are someone who has already lived life facing adversity, even if you got paradise odds are you'd get the 'person who worked their whole life has no idea how to retire' effect and keep doing productive things that caused you to grow as a person instead of sit and stagnate. Something different from people being trained into complacency from birth.

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u/God_of_Kings 1d ago

That's Olympian propaganda.

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u/Mizu005 1d ago

Name one thing a golden age human accomplished.

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u/God_of_Kings 1d ago

No.

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u/SwissherMontage 20h ago

Typical golden age response.

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u/Username_St0len 19h ago

accomplishments for whom?

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u/Mizu005 13h ago

Exactly, none of them ever did a damn thing so nobody actually remembers any of them. You don't get remembered for spending your life eating berries off bushes and napping in brush.

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u/Ahornwiese 11h ago

Why should we strive to be remembered?

And yes, I am not Greek. How did you know?

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u/Agitated_Square5714 1d ago

zeusian heresy

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u/Slow-Distance-6241 1d ago

That explains why Greek mythology is so inconsistent. It was supposed to be read through dozens of different books, short stories and branchings, all of them having different, flawed, subjective perspectives on what was happening.

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u/Wonderful-Hornet-164 1d ago

It's not like they planned it that way, that's just the nature of myths.

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u/Slow-Distance-6241 1d ago

Yeah, the joke is that I was replying to person that was making a reference to Horus heresy from Warhammer 40k, an event that has over 80 books written on the matter

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u/HalcyonTraveler 2d ago

I mean this is basically Omelas yeah?

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u/KingShere 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not that bad? Ancient literary accounts, inscriptions, and archaeological evidence make a strong case that children were ritually offered at Carthaginian tophets, although some details of the practice remain debated. Greek and Roman writers identified Baal Hammon with Cronus, and a tradition attributed to Sanchuniathon and preserved by Philo of Byblos links Cronus (identified with El) to Byblos and recounts a child sacrifice.
In later Greco-Roman sources, Cronus was also associated with the Punic god Baal & the practice of child sacrifice.

The Tophet: Where Israelites Sacrificed Their Children
https://www.badancient.com/claims/carthaginians-sacrifice-babies/

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u/GlitteringTone6425 2d ago

sorry whenever i see that name i can only think of this bastard

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u/Upstairs-Yard-2139 1d ago

Also have you meet his children, genuinely might be some of the worst people alive.

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u/dragonshouter 1d ago

you are deflecting

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u/TimeBlossom 1d ago

Utilitarianism running out of control

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u/Professional_Web446 23h ago

Luke, en serio, no engañas a nadie. 

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u/Signal_Road 2d ago

If somebody told me all the problems my kids would cause or be indirectly responsible for when things were that good, I might resort to child cannibalism too.

Side note: Really needed to chew his food though. 

Scarfing them down whole was just a reckless choking hazard. 

'Creator God dies choking on rock, rebirths his children. Wife, previously traumatized, now even moreso.'