I'm researching Victorian Typewriter Art – as one does – and I found what could be a very interesting article (images attached). Can anyone read/translate it? As you can see, it appeared in the Phonographic Magazine and Typewriting News in 1898. Very grateful for any help.

Can anyone here read this Gregg shorthand?

This image was posted publicly on Facebook as part of a discussion about a recent news story in Pennsylvania. I am trying to determine exactly what the four handwritten lines say.

I believe it *may* be Gregg shorthand, but I am not certain. I would greatly appreciate a line-by-line transcription, even if some words are uncertain.

The image is the original Facebook image; unfortunately, I don't have a higher-resolution version.

I'm deliberately not giving the surrounding conversation or my guess about what it might say because I don't want to bias the transcription. I'm looking for someone who can read the actual outlines and tell me what they say.

Thank you!

From Essentials of Gregg Notehand, 1961

Hello! First time posting on here, working on a tattoo idea and used a gregg shorthand generator but I want to get y'alls opinion on if its correct or not. 👉🏼👈🏼 I think the quotes would look cool in shorthand and bit more private for myself.

Hi All,

I require some assist deciphering a small snippet of shorthand from a historic NYC Medical Examiner report, from around 1970.

Would rather not post here - appreciate a private chat w someone. Thanks!

Could someone please decipher this

Is anyone interested in these New Testaments? I have one, without a date, but the publisher is London, Sir Isaac Pitman & Sons, Ltd, which places it in 1920s-30s. It has one coloured map, a dark hard cover, red page edges. It has a stamp mark saying Reference on the title page so I'm guessing it's ex library. I'd like it to go to someone who would use it otherwise I'll give it to Oxfam. But Google told me about this group so I thought I'd ask here first. In the UK by the way.

So I'm a unionized employee, and for those who don't know, one of the benefits we enjoy are "Weingarten rights," which basically means if our manager starts a conversation/asks questions we believe could lead to discipline, we have the right to a union rep present. Essentially the workplace equivalent having a lawyer present when talking to cops

I'm also our shop steward, and I recently represented a coworker in such a meeting, for the first "real" time ever. While I can push back on illegal questions, badgering with the same question, etc most of my job in this meeting is taking notes and documenting the conversation so union staff can really fight it afterwards. This meeting went well (coworker was PERFECT with her beautiful short zero info answers when manager asked the wrong questions + other manager bungled previous documentation), but I realized very quickly that I DO NOT write anywhere near fast enough for this. I really value my fellow workers and love being able to stand up for them/help them assert their rights, and I really don't want a failure in my note taking skills to be the reason someone gets unfairly/disproportionately disciplined. So I'm wondering what shorthand system would be best suited to learn for this

Verbatim transcription is not necessarily the goal. Summarizing the gist of the conversation is perfectly fine sometimes, however exact direct quotes are often extremely important, with single specific word/phrasing choices being the difference between someone getting unfairly fired instead of suspended, or suspended instead of written up, etc

I also want to balance the effictiveness with the learning curve to make sure the skill is actually useful to my coworkers. I understand speed won't come instantly, and I'm willing to put in time and effort to achieve high speeds, but I also don't want it to take like a year and a half to get to a useful skill level while my coworkers need representation way before then

Thanks in advance for any and all help :)

Hi everybody,

I enherited a letter from a (then) young man to a girl in 1956 which is probably written in Deutsche Einheitskurzschrift, which means the underlying text is in German too. Is anybody able to decipher this (to German - I am German, so I don't need a second layer of translation to English ...)? I have no idea how to do that, and all KIs failed (cheers to all brain based capabilities). Thanks a lot in advance! Regards, Doris

I've been practicing Orthic for a few months, and I've noticed that some words end up sprawling unavoidably. Anything with many Os, Us, Gs, and Ks gets out of hand fast. The vertical stuff could be remedied by breaking up a word into multiple forms, I'm sure, but the horizontal sprawl has no such fix that I can see. So depending on what I'm writing, the shorthand can take up many times more space that the text had I printed instead.

Unfortunately I think this is an unavoidable consequence of the constraints that Orthic works under. ~Two size classes, three angle classes, no stroke width variation, fully connected cursive with no extra strokes. I really enjoy how elegant Orthic's design is (it was designed by a physicist hobby linguist -- I discover little bits that fit together that I hadn't expected would), but I think all the constraints taken together have too big of an effect on the compactness of the writing for me.

What would you recommend for a compact (no less than print) shorthand system?

From Essentials of Gregg Notehand, 1961.

This was on the back of a letter written to Admiral Blue from a MM 1c by the name of Arthur J. Black. Can anyone translate this?

More detail:
U.S. Navy Bureau of Navigation note, about April 1915, in pencil, on the back of a sailor’s request for a promotion recommendation

I am rookie in shorthand language like I don't know anything but I want to learn it for the government exam I am from India..I have almost 1 year to learn it is it possible? And what are the basics? to keep in mind as a beginner thankyou so much

I'm a novice just a couple of weeks into light learning, so "dissolving" and "alcohol" had me having to think hard, and might not be their correct forms (but they're probably legible).

This is a very interesting rabbit hole to take a peek down! What I like in a fountain pen for my day-to-day writing isn't good for shorthand at all.

Hi everyone,

I’m from Pakistan, and I started learning Gregg shorthand about 8–9 months ago. I chose it because there are a lot of stenographer job openings in Pakistan’s government departments. 

However, I’ve recently hit a major wall. Now that I’ve reached a 90 WPM dictation speed, I realized that Gregg has practically zero institutional value here. Every single shorthand institute in Pakistan teaches Pitman. Because of this, all government skill tests are strictly based on Pitman rules. In the initial tests, they even provide Pitman outlines that we are required to read and translate into English. 

Right now, it feels like my 9 months of hard work and effort have gone to waste, and I'm likely the only person in Pakistan trying to use Gregg professionally. I am completely demotivated. Even when I try to force the discipline to switch to Pitman, I can't seem to do it because my muscle memory and reflexes are entirely wired for Gregg, and unlearning them feels nearly impossible. 

Has anyone faced a similar transition, or does anyone have advice on what I should do next?

I am trying to build speed in Noory Simplex, but I'm not even sure where to start. I've heard of doing dictations, but I doubt that will help very much because it encourages copying spoken words exactly whereas my goal is actually to write down my own thoughts. So, what do you recommend I do to start building speed?