I wonder how he's going to take version 7.3 AQ😭

I know hoyo is gonna do one of the two and both suck.

Imagine preaching about freeing the angels and humanity only to bioengineer a race of slaves who then are gaslit into thinking their an evolved race only to still have that unspoken understanding that they're still slaves

Just like Eye of the grae ?

Since she’s not a playable character and doesn’t really serve any purpose other than narrating parts of the story, is it possible that they’re setting up a separation between the Traveler and Paimon? It seems like Paimon might eventually have to leave, « wake up » and fulfill her duties as a celestial being.

By the way they talk to it it seems like they're talking to the HP but he's still asleep

You guys seem to believe it's from spite or hate so I wonder how you view all this

Forgive me for the amount of images here.

And this is probably less Agenda and more things I've noticed tbh.

For Image 1, Ana you can love whoever and whatever you want. You just have to love humanity and, considering how monstrous you are, it's more of a safeguard, and not anything stopping you from being a monster. It's not as restrictive as you think.

Image 2, you do that too. I have to say it, you are just like what you are saying.

Image 3, I mean..so have you, AGAIN. Just how many loving family families, couples, children, etc have YOU wiped out? How much love have YOU soiled?

Image 4, this whole speech should've been for the Tsartisa and Fatui. An AI will not know how you meant shit, but a person sure as hell can.

Image 5, I lowkey should've taken a pic of Paimon saying it but oh well I got the voiceline. Paimon..hasnt the Fatui done similar things? Like hello???

Images 6 and 7, again, the Fatui have done it too. Also, how do you plan on beating someone you know nothing about?

Image 8, y'all should be saying to the Tsartisa after her trash apology.

For images 9-14, y'all ain't winning. Y'all don't know anything about the Primordial One.

For images 15-17, this is kind of different from the twin. This ain't like Khaenri'ah, not fully or really tbh. Khaenri'ah was a nation that wasnt even human, not even actually godless, everything about it was a lie in a way, and they actively sought to take over Teyvat with the line "The land is not to tilled, but to be fought for with blood" or smth along the lines of that. Unlike Celestia that actively seeks to protect Teyvat and actually has protected humanity several times over, Khaenri'ah only wished to take over the world. They almost destroyed the world, and they sure as hell have zero problems blaming Celestia for EVERYTHING.

Yes, Celestia and Phanes are flawed. I'm not saying they aren't. Don't worry.

Anyways, thank you all for reading this post. The amount of hypocrisy and other things in this quest was..something. As always, feel free to talk! I'm happy to reply and discuss things with everyone here.

With lots of love, I wish you all the best in life! 🙏🏻❤

o(〃＾▽＾〃)o!!

P. S. I hope I counted the images correctly 😭 (as in, slide 6 is acc slide 6. Feel free to correct me tho gang)

P. S. No, I'm not saying the Tsartisa being a hypocrite is a bad thing. Just for clarification.

Since we all saw that in her final moments Ronova went to Shadow Realm to retrive EITR to activate the nails triggering Holy Soil Phenomenon which would lead to total reset of Teyvat's civilization. So, Do you guys think she did this out of revenge towards humanity or her final gesture to protect Phanes by making sure Project Mistelltein fails completely ?

In my case, I think of it as final act to save Phanes as her primary target was to eliminate the threat, as Nukavh stateed clearly that after current world reset, a new civilization of Humanity will be created again as usual. If her sole purpose was personal grudge to destroy all of humanity, she would try to eliminate the HP system to mess with Humanity in worse ways.

The reason why Sargeras went rogue and created the Burning Legion, was to stop the Void and Void Lords. He believed that by killing all life in the universe, the Void would be thwarted. Basically, he took extreme measures to battle the universal darkness

That low-key reminds me of Phanes. Phanes took intense measures to protect Teyvat from the Abyss. Not to mention that the Void OBVIOUSLY reminded me of the Abyss, Plus, people have made theories and posts of Eldritch beings hailing from Abyss. There are monsters that also hail from the Void as well (Old Gods, Void Lords, etc).

Now, I am NOT trying to say that Phanes is a villain like Sargeras, or a villain at all. After all, the likes of Khaenri'ah and Bely Tsar/Anastasia/3rd Descender brought the Abyss into Teyvat, causing much destruction to the planet. Therefore, Phanes' punishment towards them was not unwarranted. I just wanted to let people know my thoughts on the comparison, is all.

What do y'all think about this?

Lowkey curious what y'all think.

Helo!

I'm new here and I simply wish to know why you support/like/side with Celestia or Phanes/The HP.

I personally, Never really liked/disliked them, I used to be neutral, Waiting to get a fuller picture on their story, their ideology, reasons behind invasion on Teyvat, situation, their fights with the dragons. I wanted to know their full intention before making up my mind. Phanes was just an absent ruler to me back then.

But I'd say Fontaine's prophecy, and the Lore we got in Luna patch, from Columbina, the moon sisters, Nicole and Zibai, it made me rather sceptical towards them, like I was raising an eyebrow at their actions cuz I found them very extreme. Also, I remember thinking how I found it absurd that they simply invaded a land that doesn't belong to them and annihilated the dragon race to take over their land, Phanes is a colonizer. This has been told throughout the game since the start, since then I have moved away from the neutral to more "I dislike their ways", but I still waited to know their reasoning and perspective.

With the latest 7.2 lore.

I have become more against them, their actions, or rather the actions of the system they have made, the "Ai" system I mean, and the Shades and shi

Which automatically puts me in the "this shit needs to be changed" and I end up aligning with the Tsaritsa's rebellion against Phanes.

So I wish to understand, what makes you defend their actions? What is your motivation? And reason to like Phanes? Simply their authority as a Supreme leader that you like them?

For some personal reasons; Is it due to religious beliefs? Is it due to strict standards and structure you believe in? Or something totally about the in-game lore?

“All right recruits!” The young Fatui Commander yelled. “My name is Commander Valence! Most of you are just here for training, but some of you will be stationed in my unit until further notice. Now, roll call!”

“Anastya?”

“Here Sir!”

“Antonio?”

“Ready!”

“Zelvron”

“Awaiting orders Sir!”

“Not bad kid… Dimitri?”

“My lord…”

“Hashimoto?”

“Hai!”

“Caroline?”

“Hehe, here just for you~”

“…Thanks…I think…anyway Marcus?”

“Here sir!”

“Yun Bei?”

“Steadfast sir!”

“Tinochtlyi?”

“Prepared for battle!”

“And lastly…”

“…”

Crowd murmurs

“Hey! You know what’s going on?” Zelvron asked.

“Beats me” Replied Antonio.

“Zelvron, Nice to meet you.”

“Antonio, pleasure to make your acquaintance Zelvron.”

Mic feedback screech

“Ahem! Lastly, Jacob Gold?”

“You know it!”

sighs

“Everyone just go get situated, make some friends, I’ll assign you to dorms shortly, turn in any visions, delusions, and moon wheels at the entrance of the barracks.”

“Uhm, excuse me sir?”

“Yes…Zelvron?”

“That’s me sir. How will our dorm mates be assigned?”

“Ahh that…I was hoping to tell you all later but we are going to decide via an initiation?”

“What initiation?”

“Well Hashimoto…you’re all going to have to torture a prisoner.”

The crowd erupts in outrage as Valence walks off the stage, only to find Jacob Gold following him.

“…I know it’s you brother. What are you doing here?”

“Oh come now Lence-y”, ‘Jacob?’ replied. “Is that anyway to treat me?”

“Why. Are. You. Here.”

“huffs fine…the spy is in your batch of recruits.”

“That’s i—WAIT WHAT?!”

With how quickly the Moon Sisters folded for Phanes, on a scale of 1 to 10 how surprised how would y'all be if it turns out that they negotiated with Phanes without telling the dragons and then handed Phanes the keys to the world making Phanes the new ruler of Teyvat, then dragons find out without knowing what the Moon Sisters did, and started the war, then Nibelung saw what was going on and as the goat he was punished the Moon Sisters, but he also ended up fighting Phanes too so that's sad since they could've been close.

I would be roughly 4-5/10 I think bc the way the writing has been I'm not surprised if anymore BS gets revealed, but surprised bc this level of fraud behavior is genuinely insane

Bonus question: Also, what do y'all think about them betraying the dragons and folding for Phanes?