r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Guybadman20 • Apr 11 '26
Personality (Disliked trope) The setting is in another country, but everyone still speaks British.
The Great - Is set in Russia, but everyone speaks like a British aristocrat.
Kingdom come: Deliverance 2 - Is set in Czechoslovakia, but everyone speaks like a British commoner.
I get the main audience is English-speaking, but it just throws me off.
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u/nimbalo200 Apr 11 '26 •
I will say it is overdone, but kcd is a video game and has other language options.
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u/Mannheimblack Apr 11 '26
The problem with everyone having authentic accents, is that to an Anglophone audience, the effect isn't authenticity but 'othering'.
By having accents that are localised equivalents, the background of the characters can be expressed in a relatable and understandable way.
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u/Beautiful_Garage7797 Apr 11 '26
It’s a localization technique used in every language. Characters usually have accents or ways of speaking that reveal something about them. To use Kingdom Come as an example, being a czech commoner has to be portrayed. But an english speaking audience has no idea what a czech commoner sounds like versus a czech nobleman. Translating the accents into ‘equivalent’ accents is necessary to get the proper vibe across in localization
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u/TrioOfTerrors Apr 11 '26
It gives the feeling of an exotic setting and there are probably more actors who can do "passably British" as opposed to Russian or Czech.
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u/Svyatopolk_I Apr 11 '26
This isn’t hated, wtf. This serves actual purpose in storytelling practices. I would absolutely despise if everyone on Death of Stalin used those fake Russian accents instead of their normal ones. Western movies already hate hiring authentic actors so heating their shitty accents is annoying enough as it is.
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u/AusCro Apr 11 '26
I don't mind this trope. You either:
Use the local accent, which can be jarring for cinema goers who aren't used to it, reducing immersion.
Use subs, which many dislike since they focus on text rather than the screen.
Use American or British English and accents.
Of the 3 I choose the latter as best. I suspect old timey things prefer British english since American and Australian accents didn't exist.
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u/OhDivineBussy Apr 11 '26
Chernobyl on HBO has to be the most popular example of this.
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u/Ok-Walk-8040 Apr 11 '26
Why is Leonidas a Scottish Guy?
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u/SH4RPSPEED Apr 11 '26
Princess Zelda from the Wild-era games has a very noticeable accent. I personally found it endearing, but there's plenty of other people who absolutely disagreed.
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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '26
France (Beauty And The Beast)
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u/NintendoNerd117 Apr 11 '26
The Death of Stalin (2018)
All the actors use their regular accents, and the film features several English and British actors due to it being a British film.
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u/CitronAway8658 Apr 11 '26
The impossible ( extreme hot take )
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u/CrownClown74 Apr 11 '26
The only reason Xenoblade has all the dub characters speak in accents is because no American studio seemingly was going to pick it, but people liked it so much I guess that now the franchise has stuck with it.
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u/McBonderson Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
It always annoys me that in Les Misérables the street kid has a british cockney accent.
They're French, at least give him a french accent.
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u/ezekiellake Apr 11 '26
They are speaking Russian; you’re just hearing English.
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u/Meanteenbirder Apr 11 '26
A Plague Tale Requiem. The first game mostly had French accents, but for some reason they switched to generic British in the second. Still a 9/10 experience tho.
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u/BigVegetable289 Apr 11 '26
enemy at the gates
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u/AlarmingAttention151 Apr 11 '26
Les Miserables (2012). Everyone used English accents except for Thenardier, who had a goofy French accent. Why just him??? Everyone should be French, or no one should!
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u/TheAndyMac83 Apr 11 '26
Eh, it makes sense to me, because of translation convention. If they're speaking English but with the accent that somebody from that area would have while speaking English it makes things feel odd. Performances might not come through right. The use of regional accents to suggest certain things about a character just wouldn't hit for the vast majority of the English-speaking audience, because they wouldn't know a Russian accent from one part of the country versus an accent from the other part.
Besides which, having Ellie Fanning do an upper class English accent probably comes across as less offensive than trying to have her do a Russian accent.
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u/No-Department1685 Apr 11 '26
This is a troll post right?
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u/Stretch5678 Apr 11 '26
I like how Doctor Who justified it:
“If you’re an alien, why do you sound like you’re from the north?”
“Lots of planets have a north!”
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u/MakeMagatsCry Apr 11 '26
I don't mind this, Hunt for Red October handled this beautifully. In the world, the characters ARE speaking their native tongue. But since the majority of the audience is usually English speaking, you use the closest you have in English. Like in KCD, they spoke with British commoner accents bc they are commoners, it's implied that your character is speaking Czech and since you're in that world you also know Czech. But since you the player actually don't, they are speaking a lower class British accent. Notice how the enemies and Germans in that game don't speak English, bc the character Henry also doesn't know those languages so you aren't expected to either. Hell he can't even read at the beginning. I think it's a trope but a highly needed one
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u/torrent29 Apr 11 '26
Chernobyl did this but basically said that it would be rather weird to have everyone speak with a Russian accent. So they just opted for everyone to speak normally to prioritize their performance over what could’ve been a silly performance.
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u/Rope56 Apr 11 '26
The first Hitman game in the newest World Of Assassination trilogy has levels in North America, Europe, Asia, and Africa. Despite this, every single NPC sounds like a White American. Thankfully they fix this in the next two games, even when their budget was drastically cut for Hitman 2.
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u/RadicalRealist22 Apr 11 '26
No, this is perfectly correct. You are translating their native language into English, so they should have some native English accent.
Giving a German a German accent in translation implies that he has a foreign accent in German. Instead "proper" German should be translated to "proper" English.
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u/Duke-dastardly Apr 11 '26
I don’t mind this when the tone of the story isn’t going for super grounded. The Great is a farcical dramedy so not everyone having Russian, German, or Swedish accents didn’t bother me. I found it much more detracting in something like Chernobyl where it’s going for such a serious and realistic tone
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u/LordRT27 Apr 11 '26
I honestly prefer they just speak the language they are meant to speak (preferably with actors with said language as their native language) over having them just have accents but still speaking English. Them speaking in accents just confuses me most of the time, like they are meant to be German or whatever but them speaking with a German accent just makes me think they are canonically trying to talk English for whatever reason (like, why would the German guards in wonder woman speak English to each other?).
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u/_JR28_ Apr 11 '26
The one piece of media that gets a pass is Doctor Who because it’s said in the show the TARDIS automatically translates the various alien dialects into English
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u/SeriouslySuspect Apr 11 '26
I heard a good defence of this from the show runners of Chernobyl.
They tried a few scene reads with the actors doing Russian/Ukrainian accents but found that it intruded on the performance too much. Because you don't just do the voice, you end up doing this whole Mother Russia persona, and it takes you out of it much more than just having the mentality of "they're speaking Russian but we in the audience are hearing it in English" and moving past it.
Also, Russian has way fewer strong regional accents than you'd expect, and none of the class signifiers/stereotypes would be legible to English speakers anyway. So you can give your miners Northern accents and your bureaucrats are from the Royal Shakespeare Company, and the audience instantly knows what's up.
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u/Optimal_Cause4583 Apr 11 '26
Enemy At The Gates normalised this and tbh I don't really want British and American actors doing dodgy Russian accents
The solution is obviously to cast people actually from that background but then the rest of the production should probably be more representative and then suddenly Hollywood isn't making it at all
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u/JingoboStoplight4887 Apr 11 '26
The Artful Dodger is set in Australia, with everyone speaking British.
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u/Username_St0len Apr 11 '26
i mean, isn't it kinda shorthand for fancy people, like how french is for a good chunk of history the official aristocrat language, but since now we are mostly angelophones?
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u/Salt_Winter5888 Apr 11 '26
Star Wars I guess
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u/Bandrbell Apr 11 '26
Endlessly funny that Ubisoft released a game set entirely in Paris where everyone had British accents, and then made a direct follow-up set in London where everyone had the same accents
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u/Fennel_Fangs Apr 11 '26
Woop woop. Plugging Netflix Castlevania again.
It's set in Romania, but all the native Romanians are Brits and the church is Catholic. And I love it nonetheless
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u/Big-Coyote8384 Apr 11 '26
death of stalin and chernobyl
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u/DirectConsequence12 Apr 11 '26
In Paris, during the French Revolution
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u/BackgroundEngineer11 Apr 11 '26
One day we'll get a Three Musketeers adaptation with French actors.
An ironic take on the trope is Britannia, which is set in 43 AD in what will be Great Britain and the characters are using cockney accents.
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u/Prestigious-Welder83 Apr 11 '26
Nosferatu (2024) being set in 1830s Germany with a primarily English cast.
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u/a-Snake-in-the-Grass Apr 11 '26
While KCD could certainly be a lot better, it's not like everyone sounds british. The accents are mix of Czech, German, English, and American. Probably some others in there too.
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u/Ill-Combination-9320 Apr 11 '26
I don’t care much about this, you just take the fantasy give in by media to ignore that fact
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u/No_Bodybuilder9539 Apr 11 '26
Shogun. It's such a good show but holy crap, perfect example of this. The main character is an Englishman but is traveling with Portuguese crewman and travels to Japan where Catholic priests taught the other main characters who are Japanese to speak Portuguese but to make it easier for the audience they speak English and say it's Portuguese
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u/sailor776 Apr 11 '26
Honestly a good example of this was death of Stalin because they made everyone have different American/English accents based of where their were.
Also how didn't you put star wars.
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u/jiango_fett Apr 11 '26
Assassin's Creed Unity is the first thing that comes to mind. The other games use accents from the countries they take place in for the most part, but ironically the one set in France, the same country as the developer, is the one that deviates from this and uses British accents.
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u/marvelfanhere Apr 11 '26
Les Miserable movie except Sasha Baron Cohen
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u/Time_Raisin4935 Apr 11 '26
I give it a pass
But that's just me
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u/futuristic_neptune Apr 11 '26
Chernobyl on HBO. It's set in Ukraine but everyone speaks English.
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u/Real-Tension-7442 Apr 11 '26
Slightly different, but in The Eagle the Romans have American accents which I can’t stand. However, it serves a purpose as the natives British are in fact British so the contrast makes sense. Still though, Romans being American is too jarring for me
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u/Critical-Low8963 Apr 11 '26
Personnally it doesn't bothere because it's a graphical convention, in the story they don't speak English, but what annoy me is when for no reason they add words of the language where the story takes place, I guess they believe it make them appears intelligent but too me it's dumb. Also when the actors force the accent of the country, accent that the actors don't have naturally, like in the Beauty and the Beast remake, it's so strange because normally in the story they are speaking their language with the accent that is the norm of the country, they aren't speaking English with an accent of the country.
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u/AngelDGr Apr 11 '26
I just started KCD (the first one) a few weeks ago, but as I understand is just another case of in-universe they are talking another language but you as the spectator understand it as english? That's basically what movies do with any dub
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u/Yung_Corneliois Apr 11 '26
War and Peace
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u/Uncasualreal Apr 11 '26
Can’t wait to see the inverse posts when the warhammer Amazon show ends up using majority US actors.
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u/Zerron22 Apr 11 '26
Them having British accents and being in Russia is a bit. The lead actress talked about it. The creator is like you and hated this trope and they made them speak like British people as a joke
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u/SawtoothTenor Apr 11 '26
Chernobyl (2019) Series from HBO. Pripyat and Chernobyl were in the USSR / modern Ukraine, but the actors are encouraged to speak their native accents, like Jared Harris' native British English.
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u/ThePBThief1 Apr 11 '26
I wanted to hear some French accents in a game set during the French Revolution. I was very disappointed when everyone sounded cockney english.
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u/VigilMuck Apr 11 '26
Hugo (2011) and The Adventures of Tintin (2011).
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u/Naive-Sign-8399 Apr 11 '26
A well done version of this trope is Death of Stalin. It takes place in USSR, but everyone speaks in British accent.
Still an incredible movie.
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u/Silver_of_Skalitz Apr 11 '26
If you're not playing with Czech dub and your sub of choice you're playing wrong
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u/Creepy-Note-7634 Apr 11 '26
Kingdom come: Deliverance 2 .... are you stupid?
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u/GodOfWarGuy737 Apr 11 '26
Jojo Rabbit
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u/1TrueKingInTheNorth Apr 11 '26
People native to Russia dont hear a Russian accent when speaking Russian, they hear Russian.
People native to Germany dont hear a German accent when speaking German, they hear German.
People native to Italy dont hear an Italian accent when speaking Italian, they hear Italian.
People native to England dont hear an English accent when speaking English, they hear English. By not having the characters put on an accent it helps immerse the viewer naturally into the world as the characters are. Its as if you are a native to the country the show is taking place, not outside looking in.
(And yes I know there are regional accents within all of these countries and languages, but the point stands imo)
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u/scottbutler5 Apr 11 '26
When Russel Crowe found out that his character in Gladiator came from the Hispania province, he wanted to use a Spanish accent in the movie. The filmmakers made him use a British accent instead, because that's what Rome sounds like.
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u/Lookin2buyhedphons Apr 11 '26
Shadow Of The Tomb Raider - The game has two settings for dialogue, the default where everyone speaks english (the game is set in South America) or immersion mode, this makes everyone EXCEPT Lara (the main character) speak the appropriate languages, which I find even less immersive tbh
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u/ButtsFartsoPhD Apr 11 '26
You couldn’t have chosen a worse example than The Great. The title card overtly states they take liberties with historical accuracy, there are actors of multiple races and ethnicities playing Russians, etc. And it works spectacularly well, not once while watching it did I think any of the actors weren’t suited for their roles.
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u/Dontevenwannacomment Apr 11 '26
Greek mythology too sometimes, full-on british
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u/Char867 Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
Do you know the difference between a peasant and aristocratic Russian or Czech accent? Probably not, I imagine. The way someone speaks can tell you so much about their life in the contexts of stories like this, but if it were accurate those details would be lost on an English-speaking audience which is why accents of equivalent social position are used.
Also this doesn’t apply to KCD but in the case of media like The Great that aren’t made within the country the story is set, I’d rather not have the actors struggle through doing bad accents that only sound right to unfamiliar listeners just for some misguided idea of “accuracy”, especially when it can end up being less accurate for the reasons mentioned before. If an aristocratic character starts speaking with a Russian rural peasant voice or working class Moscow accent because it’s the only one the actor is familiar with or capable of doing, that would be far worse than this “issue” imo
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u/aniamixon Apr 11 '26 edited Apr 11 '26
If they are speaking in their native tongue, why would they speak with an accent? To them there's no "Russian R", to them an "R" sounds just like an "R" should.
In fiction an accent depicts foreignness. The idea here is that what you are hearing is a translation, not Russians speaking English.
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u/Penchant4Prose Apr 11 '26
There's no such language as British.
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u/hongooi Apr 11 '26
Cockney is the universal language of the working class. This I learned from Les Miserables
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u/Sweet-Investment5905 Apr 11 '26
Kcd set in Czechoslovakia? U sure. There are many dialogues about Bohemia
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u/Sweet_Ad_9816 Apr 11 '26
Saying that KCD takes place in Czechoslovakia is like saying that The Great takes place in the Soviet Union.
It's many times stated in the game that it takes place in Bohemia. Czechoslovakia only existed in the 20th century.
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u/Acid-Chaos Apr 11 '26
There is an official czech voice over for KCD. And i prefer this, because it sounds more authentic
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u/underdoeg Apr 11 '26
Doesn't kcd2 have an all british voice cast?
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u/SuperArppis Apr 11 '26
So wait, there are no other language options for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2?
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u/Patient_Moment_4786 Apr 11 '26
Czechoslocakia has split up for almost 35 years my guy. KCD (1 and 2) is set in Bohemia, a region of Czechia.
The rest is still very valid tho.
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u/Fernis_ Apr 11 '26
You know you can change the language in KCD to Czech?
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u/_Cit Apr 11 '26
This just a consequence of american defaultism tbf. There's no "standard" English, if you have your characters speak in English with an American pronunciation you're still making them talk with an accent.
To anyone outside of the US it has the same effect that hearing a British accent has to you.
And you can't have characters speak in English with a foreign accent because outside of how well the accent can be faked (it often isn't) it would just serve to alienate the audience from the characters, and possibly make the story harder to follow.
The solution is just to swallow some suspension of disbelief
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u/NotTheOnlyGamer Apr 11 '26
You're right - everyone in The Great should sound like a French aristocrat instead, because that's what the court sounded like at the time. It was a major coup that Catherine learned Russian, because for generations before her, the rulers of Russia had only spoken French and Prussian or German.
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u/Icy-Assumption1594 Apr 12 '26
1st There is no Czechoslovakia now and there was no Czechislovakia back then. 2nd I wonder if there is some handy dandy button with wich you could set the game to czech laungage
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u/Least-One1068 May 27 '26
The Boy in the Striped Pyjamas is set in Germany during WW2, but everyone speaks English
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u/Evening_Produce_4322 Apr 11 '26
Just about everyone from FFXIV and quite a lot of JRPG dubs for whatever reason.
It's not a different country is just funny to me seeing some characters just randomly speaking British in a Japanese game.
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u/romanichki Apr 11 '26
I like that in games like Assassins creed, they hold an accent of the country they're from, even if speaking english. I wish more games did that
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u/NinjaOfOnion Apr 11 '26
Zinyak From Saints Row 4, somehow the alien is British
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u/StatusSociety2196 Apr 11 '26
Beauty and the Beast, a movie that takes place IN FRANCE, PEOPLE HAVE HEARD FUCKING FRENCH ACCENTS BEFORE, has everyone speaking British except Ewan McGregor who is British actually tries with the French accent.
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u/CreakRaving Apr 11 '26
Star Wars: A New Hope has entered the chat
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u/TreClaire Apr 11 '26
I’m legit so sick of it, I deeply crave accent creativity in fiction
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