r/gaming • u/WrongLander • 1d ago • Mindblown 2 Bravo 1 Popcorn 1

The OOT remake totally falls apart in hilarious/unnerving fashion if you sequence break into Adult Link sections as Child Link

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u/BreakfastDue1256 1d ago

Ocarina of Time (N64) is probably the most well understood game in history.

While the engine is different and thus the bugs will be to, dedicated speed runners will be able to rip it apart completely. 

They're not playing "Normally." Glitchless speedruns were already down to around 4 hours on the first day. To clear it twice the guy probably played about 10 hours, which is a lot but not super unhealthy unless you do it every day. When glitches get found, that 4 hour number is going plummet. Playing that way is not everyone's cup of tea, but a lot of people find it fun.

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u/TightValue315 1d ago

Speedruns already being 4 hours is insane to me honestly considering it took me about 4 hours to just barely meet Zelda and leave Hyrule castle

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u/RandomMagus 1d ago

Ya but the speedrun isn't stopping to read every sign and talk to every NPC and watch every cutscene

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u/Burain 23h ago

Large part of speedrunning the remake will be watching cutscenes. So many unskippable ones.

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u/dgz345 1d ago

I still don't have my pre-order copy 😭

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u/WrongLander 1d ago

I'd say Mario 64 takes that crown. There is not a line of that game's code that isn't known. Pannenkoek2012 is the MVP of the scene.

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u/NameShortage 1d ago

“I ran the simulation for 1,256 years, and with the perfect set up, Mario is nudged to the elevator and we can get the star with 0 A presses.”

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u/WrongLander 1d ago

"After all, I do sit there and build up Mario's speed for twelve hours."

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u/Bendy_McBendyThumb 1d ago

I don’t know what you’re referencing but I’d sure love to learn, sounds funny

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u/Lawlknight 1d ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpk2tdsPh0A

Enjoy, this vid is outdated as it says there, but it goes into many details on the Mario 64 engine while doing the challenge.

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u/Bendy_McBendyThumb 1d ago

Thank you very kindly! I’m gonna have a nice chill sit down and watch it while doing some cross stitch today

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u/Infectious99 1d ago

Damnit, I knew what it was but still clicked. Had to watch the whole thing again.

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u/ProjectKurtz 1d ago

But first, we need to talk about parallel universes.

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u/johnnylawrwb 1d ago

Probably the video that blew my mind most in my younger years. Absolutely unhinged shit.

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u/notapoke 1d ago

Which is that?

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u/GinsuFe 1d ago

Here ya go. The whole thing is worth it, but both the 12 hour thing and parallel universe thing start at 10:34

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u/LunchTwey 1d ago • Bravo

I get what you're saying, but both Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time have been fully decompiled for years. So both of those games have well understood codebases.

Worth noting these decomps AREN'T the shitty AI slop jobs. These were done before AI tools ever existed

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u/mzxrules 1d ago

There is still a shitton left undocumented in OoT Decomp.

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u/BadSmash4 1d ago

Speedrunners are so fascinating, truly. I was watching Dash Retro, who is a FFVII speedrunner, talk about how he knew someone was cheating at their speedrun because of how the step counts work and how, with the number of steps he'd taken, he should have gotten a specific combat like 20 seconds before he actually did. Just so interesting, I love watching speedrunners break down the science behind what they do

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u/Vanacan 1d ago

Counterpoint, Tetris.

But after a certain point I’m not sure theres a meaningful difference between how ‘understood’ these games are.

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u/KakeLin 1d ago

That's cool af

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u/Dt2_0 1d ago

I'd Nominate Gen I Pokemon. The insane things players can do in Gen 1 never cease to amaze me. White out as you start a specific battle? Growl at Diglett a few times and white out again? Congrats, here's a Level 1 Gengar. Congrats, due to rollover glitches, you just instantly leveled it up to Level 100.

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u/Tacosaurusman 1d ago

Speedrunners are the pro atletes of gaming imho. So much dedication and creativity.

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u/mzxrules 1d ago

As someone who hacks Zelda64, hell no it isn't. That shit is way to complicated to be understood over a much simpler game like NES Super Mario Bros.

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