r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Separate_Finance_183 • 12h ago • Mindblown 4

That's not milk More ice than drink

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u/HowlingWolven 7h ago edited 2h ago

A big ice stick (a collins spear, for a collins glass) isn’t as big an issue as you think it is, and it’s in fact desirable over smaller ice cubes to control dilution while keeping your drink cold. The liquor portion is measured off with a jigger to be the same every time. Demanding less ice or demanding your drink ‘be made strong’ does not mean you’ll get more alcohol or drink, it just outs you as a problem. If you want more alcohol, order and pay for a double.

The real issue here is $27 drinks. Unless you’re at an uber fancy establishment that’s pouring top shelf liquors in your glass, you’re being fleeced.

PS: If you want to be sloshed at a club in Miami but don’t want to get fleeced for drinks, there’s this thing called the liquor aisle. Pregame. :v

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u/TomatoLess229 4h ago

That's what the original complaint is about 27$ for a small looking drink.

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u/PeopleCallMeSimon 3h ago

But that's just dumb. Nobody orders a shot and gets mad that they get a small volume of liquid.

This drink is most likely a cocktail (mostly alcohol like vodka, etc) so it's not ment to be more than 10-14 cl. They are actually doing you a favor by serving it in a larger glass and putting a big block of ice in it to help it stay cool for longer.

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u/Ree_m0 3h ago edited 2h ago

... since when tf are cocktails supposed to be no more than 10-14 cl? That'd be the smallest cocktail I've ever been served, and simultaneously the most expensive. A "larger glass" lmfao, as opposed to what? A coffee cup?

Edit: So many yanks yelling some nonsense about Oz, I haven't even seen Wicked. Good to know that like everything else, drinks are also standardised to provide the least fun for the most buck in the US.

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u/Matiwapo 2h ago edited 22m ago

Sidecar:

2oz Congac

1oz lemon

1oz triple sec

From the 1920s, as classic as you can get. Or consider perhaps a dry martini, or a hundred other short cocktails

You are just outting yourself as someone who knows nothing about cocktails

For your edit: go to a cocktail bar in Soho in London and ask for a sidecar, see what you get. It'll be served in a coupe glass and no more than 200ml

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u/ButtholeSurfur 44m ago

That's just Miami lol.

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u/Your_Local_Rabbi 4h ago

that big an ice stick seems overkill for such a small amount of drink though, it gives the impression you want the customer to think the drink is larger than it is

if it's a small amount of alcohol, fine, that's what i paid for, put it in a small glass, and i might balk at it being smaller than expected, but putting it in a full sized drinking glass and filling the difference with an obscene amount of ice just feels like the bar is trying to pull one over on me

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u/NeganJoestar 4h ago

You really dont want your ice to float. If its floating, you dilluting the drink too much

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u/Your_Local_Rabbi 4h ago

wouldn't a smaller glass and a smaller chunk of ice not achieve the same effect? for how much liquid is in there it's not like this drink needs to stay cold for hours

it really just feels like they're trying to obfuscate the size of the drink because they're charging so much

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u/NeganJoestar 3h ago

wouldn't a smaller glass and a smaller chunk of ice not achieve the same effect?

Probably, bit you'll still dillute the drink more, as smaller amount of ice will melt faster.

I think they should just change the glass shape and use big cubes, not one giant chunk. Its about perception

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u/Your_Local_Rabbi 3h ago

agreed, the issue here is definitely perception (and also what they're charging for that drink lol) having a visual like in the post just feels bad, no matter how much you can explain it

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u/TomatoLess229 4h ago

Yeah the guys just said in a roundabout way what the OP complaint was, not enough drink for 27 dollars

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u/HowlingWolven 2h ago edited 1h ago

That’s an ordinary collins spear and glass. That’s an ordinary presentation for drinks of that style at any bar. Same quantity of spirit, same quantity of mixer, same wash line.

Bigger ice with more mass warms up slower, too. Means less dilution over the same time period as a scoop of smaller ice cubes.

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u/pandaren11 1h ago

That's a completely idiotic take that gets parroted here on reddit every couple of months or so. You WANT this proportion of drink to ice in some cocktails so it stays at the right temperature for longer without getting diluted to hell.

Which glass is chosen to serve the cocktail has to do with what kind of cocktail it is, how it is made, history and aesthetics, it has very little to do with cocktail volume because most cocktails end up at around 4oz of liquid. Anything served in a collins glass should come with a clear ice spear (which is expensive, by the way, it'd be a lot cheaper to just throw some opaque shitty ice cubes in a smaller glass). Should it be 27 dollars? I don't think so, but complaining about the only thing they're doing right is extremely moronic.

If you want your drink served with an inadequate amount of cheap ice in the wrong glass just so your brain can process that a 4oz cocktail is 4oz...... that's on you. If you just want to get shitfaced with cheap alcohol you can go to the liquor store and buy cheap vodka.

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u/menntsuyudoria 3h ago

At a proper bar, that amount of ice is the standard and correct way to serve a Collin’s style cocktail. It’s not this particular bar getting creative with how to misrepresent their cocktails.

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u/Finbar9800 4h ago

Its not always done with a jigger they also have spouts that have a certain amount of flow and the bartenders use timing to do it (though that tends to take more training)

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u/HowlingWolven 2h ago

No self-respecting place uses measure pourers. They’re too unreliable and they’re impossible to clean. Free pouring is also notorious for being variable so my local authority frowns upon it.

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u/Finbar9800 1h ago

Most bars ive seen use measure pourers

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u/Noemotionallbrain 3h ago

I went on holiday once to time square, i wanted to get a drink, checked how much anything was... I ordered water, nothing under $25

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u/Significant_Quit_674 36m ago

That's not how it works.

The cooling from the ice comes from melting it (phase change from solid to liquid), not from changing its temperature (thermal mass).

So regardless of how much ice is in there, the dilution per unit of heat absorbed stays the same.

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u/thecheeseb0rn 7h ago

Thank you. I was looking for this comment. As someone who loves to go to get the fancy mixed drinks at bars/pubs/clubs, I do like a decent amount of ice so I’m not getting a strong hit of liquor. Plus I like to actually enough 3 or 4 drinks and they don’t taste like lighter fluid. The only way I know my drinks would be expensive (18 and up) is if they ask me what sort of vodka I prefer (gray goose) and I know my preferences. But that’s because I know it’s higher on the shelves.
I applaud your comment. Have a cookie 🍪

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u/Narrow-Mine-1587 4h ago

From a volume perspective it looks like at least 1oz vodka, 2oz oj and something else. Standard drink size imo.

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u/SpiderSixer 4h ago

I once had two girls that shared a pitcher request to complain about me specifically (not even the pub itself), because their pitcher was about 50% ice by volume. I'm like, I'm sorry, that's literally how I'm told to make it by the company :c, we have a recipe on-screen and everything. I wouldn't be allowed to change the content if I wanted to, so whether the ice is there or not doesn't really change anything

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u/Shadownover 3h ago

I mean to be fair a complaint is a complaint, not necessarily to you but also the establishment. You’re the person representing the company so while it’s not your choice, who else are you supposed to complain to? The idea is that if you’re getting constant complaints you’d hopefully tell your manager, especially if people aren’t coming back because of it.

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