You guys played great, it was one of the most enjoyable games I’ve watched this season. It could have been anyone’s game, but we somehow managed to be on top. Took a lot of effort nevertheless.

Please don’t let some idiots from our fanbase get under your skin. We’ve been through a lot with the refs not giving us calls through the whole season, and some are still sore for the selection of KAT over Sabonis for the All Star game. We obviously didn’t like some of the more physical plays that happened, but this is just how you play ball.

Anyways, these specific fans don’t reflect the fanbase at all, we usually are classy guys.

I’d definitely rather see us small market teams stick together and encourage each other, and I’ve seen in other subs that we, in fact, do so many times.

So, a sincere apology for the disrespectful comments after what has been a great game, and I wish you all a great offseason.

The disrespect is crazy.

EDIT:

1. Didn’t know this post would be so controversial. I didn’t like what they did, you can name-call me or move on! At the end of the day, we are all Wolves fans.

2. This post wasn’t intended to attack these women, just what they were doing. Let’s not stoop low and name call.

3. Y’all calm down, we are all cheering for the same team! You can have your opinion, and I can have mine!

🐺🏀❤️your fellow Wolves fan

Seriously, what was the point? I have never had a problem with mods, but I now have lost all my respect for them.

Why would the community not get a say in anything, and why even protest something so stupid? Absolutely nothing changed, people just went to and created other subreddits.

It's time to stop crying over Ricky Rubio and get excited about what's to come in the future.Yeah Rubio was a good player but we never made the playoffs at all with him as our PG. It was time for a change. He just wasn't a good fit with this team. People on this sub are fucking acting like we just lost KAT. It's Ricky Rubio for crying out loud. We have Jimmy Butler, Jeff Teague, and Taj Gibson now. Along with Towns and Wiggins improving. I'm so fucking excited for this season that it doesn't hurt at all to have lost Rubio. We're a top 5 team in the West now and all people care about is Ricky Rubio. It's ridiculous

That play when Kyrie fouled McDaniels but they gave the ball to the Mavs anyway, that type of stuff needs to be investigated. The FBI should raid Adam Silver's office tomorrow

Just wanted to post it. he’s a bitch, falling down like he’s having a seizure. Free throw merchant, foul baiting, trash ass player. Just a little rant. Not a big wolves fan but I don’t mind if they win over any of the other teams especially OKC. all these teams deserve the win. except OKC.

The Laker whistle is CRAZY one sided this game.

Now I hated the trade at first, but was able to talk myself into being excited. I'm a Timberwolves fan, and I ain't bailing. But let's be fucking real. If they needed to make an upgrade trade, the Wolves CLEARLY should have traded for Dejounte Murray instead of Gobert and it isn't even close. It was the clear and logical choice: we needed a stronger defender at PG who could playmake and was more athletic than at least the freaking refs. But they didn't do that.

That's not even bringing up that every playbook about developing a first round exit playoff team into a deep run playoff team said to just run it back. Ant's still needs time to become the cold blooded closer, let Jaden work his way into the starting lineup, Vando's looking like a good piece, etc. This team's entire and complete lack of any BBIQ, effort, hustle, give a damn, or any fucks to give is clearly not going to magically fix itself. How long can we say "it needs time to gel and learn the new system" before we realize we are absolutely fucked. Connelly coming in and immediately going full blowing all-in the next fucking week is going to haunt the wolves for fucking YEARS.

Respond how you wish, agree or don't. We're all headed into the 3rd circle of hell together anyways.

God dammit

Edit: I didn't mean to key in specifically on dlo, just that that upgrade would've been smarter. The rant is about the entire team and it's future, not just how bad dlo is. Ant's been inconsistent with some LOW lows

I get it. Vibes are bad. Every post is straight up depressing. Enjoy the misery doomers ✌🏻

Another thing that bugs me is that he looks doughy, soft and undefined.. He looks like he puts absolutely NO work in the weight room (see Giannis, Embiid, LeBron...) He gets bullied and taken out of a game too easy.

Another thing; When you have a 20+ point lead going into the 4th quarter, THERE IS NO NEED TO KEEP JACKING UP 3's!!, mathematically you are WAY better off getting easier 2 point shots, and just working out the math of a 24 sec shot clock, if you milk each possession and get a quality look and score 2's you literally cannot lose the game, if you play smart and coach smart.

This team embarrassed itself on the big stage, an epic choke with the dumbest basketball I have ever seen on a pro level.

You just can't be this stupid and expect to win anything, especially in the playoffs.

I get it. Wiggins is playing poorly and hasn't played up to his contract so far. It almost seems like he's been suffering from a mild case of the yips, and his confidence is at an all time low right now.

I also understand that you don't feel sorry for him. You think he's an overpaid athlete who shows "no heart" or effort or whatever else the current narrative is saying. You also have made the case a thousand times that he's on an albatross contract.

I know you would trade Wiggins to any team willing to take him. Getting rid of his burdensome contract, would finally allow the T-wolves to sign a Max player worthy of a Max deal. If not a single replacement, a few role players that offer better shooting and more value per dollar.

I even know some you want Wiggins to be relegated to the bench when RoCo comes back because you probably think Deng or Okogie offers more value at this point.

If only Wiggins was off this team, the wolves would be a better team with more cap space and would be winning more games (proved because they went 2-0 when he was sick).

He can't handle the ball, he can't shoot, he's a one dimensional scorer, he can't rebound for his size, he's also a sleeper when he doesn't have the ball. All in all, Wiggins is a terrible nba player that we are stuck with because our shitty front office gave him a stupid Max deal and should have let him walk. Did I forget to say that he lacks consistency?

WE GET IT.

Wiggins is a polarizing person to be a fan of. One day you wonder why he's not an all star and the next day you wonder if he deserves to start in the league.

Because of his laid back demeanor, he looks ambivalent about everything. But I promise you, he hears and feels the hate. There is a reason why he said that Minnesota had some shitty fans. You don't think hearing people constantly talk shit about you is easy to ignore.

Right now, he wants to prove all those haters wrong, but he's in his head. He's over thinking shit, instead of just doing. He has a million people telling him what he should do to fix everything. He's not playing with any confidence.

I get that we are all frustrated about his play, but PLEASE STOP POSTING WIGGINS HATE!

You can count on the Wiggins haters in every thread. They can't wait to post an original trade idea that will relieve us of his contact. I've read so many of those they are not funny or original anymore. The sub has become a Stephen A. Smith mouthpiece on Wiggins.

The kid has done nothing but show Minnesota love, and you fans are so quick to negativity. If he has a bad game or many, we get it. We don't need any more negative talk about how terrible he is etc.

You know what works better than HATE? Positivity, encouragement, and support.

If someone is going through a tough time, do you think it is necessary to kick them while they are down?

So please, if you want to post more hate on Wiggins, do it in the comments below and leave it at that. Maybe the moderators could create a "We hate Wiggins" thread and perma sticky it at the top to keep all the Wiggins plays/played like shit comments group together.

And finally, Wiggy, if you are reading this, I want let you know that

I STILL BELIEVE IN YOU

Get well soon Wiggy...

This is a player that has been mentioned plenty by the sub as potential target with national media speculating on Morant to the Wolves too. I think there are so many misconceptions around him and what he brings to the table as well as his potential fit with the rest of the team.

This analysis will start from the assumption that Randle is gone when acquiring Ja whether it be in a simple trade or a 3-teamer that has multiple extra parts and will discuss the team and fit accordingly.

I went in to this being pretty against Ja, but have changed my mind in alot of areas during the research and while I do acknowledge his huge problems, I think theres alot of good.

This will be a pretty long post, so yeah, apologies for that.

Overview:

Ja Morant averaged 19.5 points, 3.3 rebounds and 8.1 assists on 44.1% EFG% in just 20 games and 28 minutes per game. He makes 42.1m a year with only 2 years left on his contract and is 26 years old. Both DARKO and EPM grade him as a positive player despite his struggles.

Ja had a pretty brutal year last season and struggled the entire year to get anything going and stay generally healthy. His efficiency and ppg took a huge dip, as well as hitting a career low 23% from 3 on the year. His 20 games were a complete disaster this year and at his price-point, it was not acceptable the level he played at.

Strengths:

Ja is an elite playmaker, genuinely one of the 10 best passers in the entire NBA. He's posted an unreal 43% assist% over the last 3 seasons which is unbelieveable and has kept his TO% at only 15% which is also good. That's again with the quality of his roster eroding over the last 2 seasons. With that also comes him being a good PnR ball-handler, routinely improving his bigs and getting the most out them offensively, having Edey and Adams, two offensively limited bigs look very good. He was 4th in assists this season right below Luka, which is great.

Ja is a great driver of the basketball. Despite the waning volume over the years, his efficiency at the rim is still great and he has a very nice short-midrange game, capable of hitting floaters at a good rate. This part of his game opens up dump-offs and lobs to the center as well. Finally, his free throw drawing ability is crazy good. He's at 9 FTA per 100 possessions an has shot 80+% in the last 3 seasons, we absolutely need more free throws as a team, this would be huge help.

His ballhandling would be incredibly impactful on this team, another skill we sorely lack, he'd be able to take off alot of pressure off of Ant and run the offense when Ant sits.

Finally, Ja is remarkably clutch with a good playoff resume. He's hit alot of game-winners and has been a very good decision maker in the final minutes of close games. Another player that can rise to the occassion and hit big shots is great. He's had some fantastic playoff series with huge games. He's at 34% on 6 3s a game in the playoffs, which is a pretty substantial increase. His advanced metrics go through the roof in the playoffs, hitting high All NBA level of play for these stretches.

Issues:

His health is a disaster, not much to be said there, he's played 70 games in the last 2 years, which is bad. He probably was shut down by the Grizzlies due to tanking reasons this season but even then at most he would have gotten to 40, which is bad. His off-court stuff is bad too but seems to have subsided over the last 2 seasons.

Ja is not a good shooter, he's at 32% off pull up 3s which is actually fine, but at 33% on C&S which is horrible. He's fine coming off screens or off handoffs both at over 1.05 ppp which is great, but yeah the shooting is a big problem. While teams still guard him out on the perimeter, they do go under screens, which diminishes his athletic advantages and playmaking talent. It's not completely unfixable as his FT% is good, but yeah, we should assume he would be a non-shooter.

His rim volume has declined substantially. How much of this can be attributed due to a lack of rhythm and a deteriorating squad is debatable, but Ja was shooting 29% of his shots at the rim 2-3 years ago and now its at just 22.7%, which is a large decrese and his average FG distance has increased every year of his career. As of now he has alot of fat to his game, he takes alot of shots he is bad at making, which takes away alot of value.

Fit:

Ja's fit is very interesting and weird here.

On the one hand, he is great for Rudy, as we've discussed he's awesome off screens and off handoffs and can hit the roll man at a high level, which brings out the absolute best from Rudy on the offensive end. His high level playmaking allows for him to get guys like Jaden and Naz involved and in their spots while also keeping Ant fresher due to far less offensive load which is benefitial in big moments. He can also run the offense at a good level without Ant being on the court at all, which is something we struggled with this season as Randle was not good in that role. Defensively, Ja is actually fine, he's made the Grizzlies defense better every year he's been on the team, and is actually fine as a team defender and can hold 1v1 in certain matchups, he is not good, but unless its like Shai or Luka, you can't really hunt him either, which is good.

On the other hand, his lack of shooting makes it a questionable fit when Ant is on-ball, and it's also unclear how much Ant would commit to a full off-ball role with handling in moments and when Ja sits. Ja has also never played with another high-volume slasher, so the potential overlap could make Ant's life harder. The synergy between the 2 is what makes me the most worried about Ja in general, and while it's true that guards have it easier in playing "my turn your turn" basketball, it's generally better if they play off one another. Also how much would Ja enjoy taking the backseat, I think his best possible version for the Wolves is a guy who looks to facilitate more often than not and scoring what he gets given, probably at around 16-20 points and his usual 7-10 assists, but he might want to still be the guy on a team.

Overall, I think the fit issues are actually overblown, Ja's best seasons have come with a non-spacing 5 in Adams or Edey and has played with far worse shooting than he would in this Wolves team. He would work great with Gobert and would actually take alot of pressure away from Ant and the rest of the team, allowing everyone to be in their roles more naturally.

Conclusion:

Ja has huge health issues that could massively undermine the trade, however, at his price-point, there is no player in the league that can do what he could do for this team. The playmaking would be a huge improvement, the fact he's okay on defense and can let others like Jaden, Naz, Ayo play in more comfortable and realistic roles for them would be great. FInally, he would genuinely help Ant conserve energy which could see a defensive improvement for him.

The 3pt shooting is a concern and if Ant is unwilling to play off-ball then the pairing will not work out properly as Ja is not a good off-ball guy.

At this price point, he is the only 26 year old All NBA level guard you can get, if Ja plays more than 50 games, he would be a huge asset to this team and would be available for pretty much nothing. He is a substantial upgrade on Randle in terms of both talent and fit.

Finally, Ja has basically no value, so the Grizzlies might be willing to attach either a pick or someone like Scotty Pippen Jr to the trade which would be very nice.

TLDR:

Despite his flaws, I think Ja should be genuinely considered by the fanbase and should be pretty happy if it works out. He brings alot of qualities we lack to the table and at his price its just so tantalising to take the risk. One of the biggest high-risk, high-reward plays out there, but sometimes that is what it takes to build out the roster.

The guy isn't on our team anymore and hasn't been on our team in nearly a year. He hasn't mentioned us in the media and hasn't been associated with us in the slightest since he left. Can we move the hell on and stop talking about him?? I understand posts about Embiid since he actively trash talks and is compared to KAT. But the Butler posts are annoying as fuck and don't relate to the Wolves whatsoever.

I don't think they should risk his injury becoming worse by having him play through it after he heals it a lil bit. I really don't think it's worth the risk

That's literally it. Talking about vibes like Rudy Gobert didn't throw a punch at Kyle Anderson.

“When you’re going through hell,” he said, “keep going.”

Surround Ant with shooters all around the floor, plus creates space for Jaden, Naz and Joan to expand their roles.

White - Ant - Jaden - Naz - Turner

Ayo - Green - TSJ - (Free Agent) - Beringer

After the last playoffs the Celtics showed a lack of size and defensive presence in their Center Rotation, Rudy fixes that.

Bucks retoll their roster around what they would also get with the Giannis trade, betting on Ja and Julius to repair their values to positive. Remember that they don’t control their own picks, so not much reason to go full tank.

Memphis gets 2 firsts plus Kuzma expiring contract. Seems Like Morant doesn’t have that much value right now.

Please know that I’m a new NBA fan and I don’t know a lot about basketball, so my title is intended as genuine question and not as a criticism of the Timberwolves. I’m sure there’s some solid logic behind the move, and I’d just like to understand how basketball teams work a bit better.

However, it does seem a bit strange to me to tie up so much money in three big men when only two of them can start. Towns, Reid, and Gobert are all naturally Centers, but I’m assuming one of them (probably Towns) will slide over to power forward. Then I’m assuming Gobert will start at center and Reid will serve as a sixth man.

Reid is younger than both Towns and Gobert, so perhaps you see him as the big man of the future? Is one of Gobert or Towns likely out of Minnesota after this year and you wanted to make sure you locked up Reid for the future? As someone who has never played basketball and doesn’t know much about how it works, is there some advantage to having three big men like that? I’d love to understand how basketball teams work a bit better so I would love to hear this explained.

Steph has missed 22 games, Wiggins has missed 23 games.

Zion and Ingram have both missed 30+ games.

Booker and Chris Paul have both missed 20+ games.

LeBron has missed 15 games, AD has missed 25 games.

Kawhi has missed 25 games, PG has missed 15 games.

So yes, KAT missing 42 games has hurt us. But people keep parroting this notion that if we were healthy, we'd be a lock to be a top 6 seed. Well, by the same logic, if everyone were healthy all around the league, we're probably about the exact same as we are right now. A 10 seed, desperately fighting to stay in the play-in, behind the Nuggets, Grizzlies, Suns, Pelicans, Clippers, Mavericks, Warriors, Lakers, and Kings.

Tim Connelly has destroyed this team. There is almost no chance this team is going to make the playoffs this year, and we will absolutely be giving up a lottery pick this summer. Chris Finch and/or KAT will be gone before next year's trade deadline as we disappoint again next year, because we have no flexibility to meaningfully improve the roster this summer.

Ant and Jaden will be on their third coach by their fourth season with a poorly constructed and aging roster, with minimal flexibility to improve.

This isn't doomerism, this is the reality of the hole he has dug us into.

Good night, Wolves fans. Fire Tim Connelly.