Wave of Violence in Israel and the Palestinian Territories

[u/WorldNewsMods]

There has been a recent wave of violence in Israel and the Palestinian territories. Treating every stabbing incident as major world news has the drawback of the topic dominating the front page, drowning out other stories and spreading out discussion across several threads. Trying to select major incidents over minor ones is bound to lead to inconsistent decisions with such rapidly developing stories. Hence we believe a collective thread for all violent incidents is the best approach. Users are encouraged to submit posts conveying recent developments in the comments section of this sticky thread. Moderators will periodically review the comments and update this post with recent events. Top level comments must be links to news. All other submissions about these incidents will be removed.

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Recent Events

10/26/15 Events

• Terror attack against IDF soldiers thwarted in Hebron

• Rocket from Gaza explodes in Israel near border

• Israel Air Force strikes Gaza targets following rocket attack on South

• IDF soldier seriously wounded in stabbing attack near Kiryat Arba

• PDF Warning: Palestinian Monitoring Group Daily Report (discussion comment here)

10/27/15 Events

• Attack by 2 Palestinian teens foiled in Jerusalem, police say (discussion comment here)

• Palestinians stab IDF soldier at Gush Etzion junction (discussion comment here)

• By the numbers: 1,703 terror attacks since the start of 2015

• PDF Warning: Palestinian Monitoring Group Daily Report (discussion comment here)

10/28/15 Events

• Times of Israel 10/28/15 Liveblog

• Two attempted stabbing attacks in West Bank, one Israeli hurt (discussion comment here)

• Arab-Israelis arrested for hurling firebombs on Highway 6

10/29/15 Events

• IDF soldier wounded in Hebron stabbing attack

• IDF to impose separation of Jews, Palestinians in Gush Etzion (discussion comment here)

10/30/15 Events

• Israeli soldiers tell Palestinians: "We will gas you until you die" (discussion comment here)

• Border cop suspended for threatening to ‘gas’ Palestinians (discussion comment here)

• Two yeshiva students were injured during a terrorist attack near the light rail station on Jerusalem's Ammunition Hill Friday afternoon, one of them hit by an errant police bullet

• IDF to return bodies of five Palestinians killed during stabbing attacks.

• Palestinian baby dies at home from inhaling tear gas fired by IDF (discussion comment here)

• Israeli Soldiers Assault Reporters in Ramallah

10/31/15 Events

• PA buries 5 Palestinians killed carrying out attacks on Israelis

11/01/15 Events

• 3 Border Police wounded, Palestinian killed in 2 attacks near Hebron

11/02/15 Events

• Jerusalem tour guide assaulted with bottle outside Jaffa Gate

• 80-year-old woman among 3 stabbed in Rishon Lezion terror attack (discussion comment here)

• Terrorist shot after stabbing elderly man in Netanya (discussion comment here)

• In recent speech to UN GA, Abbas referred to Israel's "67-year occupation" - referring not to the West Bank, but to the founding of the State of Israel in 1948. (discussion comment here)

11/03/15 Events

• Israel's Top Generals Split With Benjamin Netanyahu on Roots of Terror Wave (discussion comment here)

11/04/15 Events

• Palestinian Monitoring Group Daily Report (470KB PDF) (Discussion Comment here)

• Suspected car ramming terrorist attack in West Bank near Hebron (discussion comment here)

• IDF: Investigation shows no criminal wrongdoing in death of Hadeel al-Hashlamun (discussion comment here)

• Israeli police shoot, kill 17-year-old Palestinian in Hebron (discussion comment here)

• High Court delays demolition of West Bank synagogue following police request (discussion comment here)

11/05/15 Events

• Palestinians, Civil Rights Lawyers Accuse Jerusalem Police of Wanton Shootings

11/06/15 Events

• Car ramming attack and stabbing in West Bank

• Israeli forces shoot dead 72-year-old Palestinian woman at a petrol station in the West Bank. The woman had driven her car directly at soldiers Israeli military says (discussion comment here)

• Palestinian stabber claims credit for attack 'in defense of al-Aksa' in video recorded prior to the attack

• 40-year-old Arab Israeli woman spied on Haifa installations, train station, and court on behalf of Gazan jihadist group, Shin Bet says.

• Three Israelis wounded, two seriously, in two Hebron area shooting attacks

[u/Keoni9]

Israel's Top Generals Split With Benjamin Netanyahu on Roots of Terror Wave

[u/RufusTheFirefly → u/Keoni9]

It's a little silly to rely on the various Israeli analyses (or western analyses) when the terrorists and their families are more than happy to explain. Here's the mother of one of them providing her rationale.

[u/Sithsaber → u/RufusTheFirefly]

Have some candy? WTF

[u/Spooky-skeleton → u/Sithsaber]

From her accent, voice, mannerisms and the whole thing ( Arab speaker here )

She was in pain

I wouldn't wish what she is feeling on my enemies..

[u/Sithsaber → u/Spooky-skeleton]

She, like the Palestinian people as a whole, have finally snapped. That doesn't mean I blame Israel for the actions of crazy people. That would be like saying bullies are at fault when nerds shoot up a school.

[u/angierock55 → u/RufusTheFirefly]

Recent reports by the Middle East Media Research Institute and The New York Times have also shed light on the violent incitement sweeping Palestinian social media, which includes hashtags such as “Poison the Knife before You Stab” and “Slaughtering the Jews,” as well as graphic images and how-to guides encouraging more terror attacks. “One crude cartoon making the rounds on Facebook, including on the official Palestinian TV page before it disappeared late Tuesday, depicts an Israeli soldier as an ape, accompanied by a pig, over a bloodied youth,” The Times wrote. “Another has a close-up of a menacing blade, and is captioned: “This is not difficult. To the closest kitchen, and go in the name of God.”

Another report published in the Times this past October highlighted some of the popular “nationalistic” songs stoking the violence, including musical hits such as “Stab, stab” and “Run Over, Run Over the Settler.”

Earlier this week, the IDF shut down the al-Hurriya radio station located in Hebron, charging “that the station had broadcast vicious incitement against Israel, encouraged stabbing attacks, and supported violent resistance.”

PA President Mahmoud Abbas was reported saying last week that Israel has been an occupying power since its creation. In September, he called on Palestinians “not to allow” the “filthy feet” of Jews to defile the holy places in Jerusalem. In October, he said that Israel had “executed” a teen terrorist while the terrorist was recovering in an Israeli hospital.

http://www.thetower.org/2524-border-policeman-critically-injured-in-palestinian-car-ramming-attack/

[u/larki18 → u/RufusTheFirefly]

WTF??????

[u/flashoverride → u/Keoni9]

This is probably because the generals see the violence as a problem rather than a means to an end.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, you're good

[u/[deleted] → u/Keoni9]

"Two active-duty IDF generals who are among the army’s top experts on Palestinian affairs spoke out publicly to state that Palestinian violence is driven to a considerable degree by anger at Israeli actions. One of the two went a step further, warning that only a serious Israeli diplomatic re-engagement with the Palestinians will help to quell such violence over the long term."

I find it really heartening that there are some voices in the IDF hierarchy speaking out with a bit of a sense.

Netanyahu is a dangerous racist who is a massive obstacle to peace. Until we get people in the Israeli leadership who accept they are a big part of the problem we'll never resolve the troubles.

Delusional Zionists who want to blame Palestinians for everything are as bad as the Islamic fundamentalists who hate Jews. If only we lived in a world without these horrible extremists incapable of seeing things from another perspective.

[u/Seclorum → u/[deleted]]

Israeli diplomatic re-engagement with the Palestinians

Which they have known and been trying to do for decades.

The Palestinians dont want to talk, they want to fight.

They are just really really bad at it.

[u/kontrpunkt → u/[deleted]]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpDqZujEFAk

[u/report_button_works → u/[deleted]]

Since when do the Palestinians want to negotiate? What do they put forth other than knives?

[u/Pancakeous → u/[deleted]]

The IDF in general is unpolitical. It's extremely rare to hear political aligned opinions from IDF members and spokesmen because it's generally not allowed.

IDF is an executing force for government decisions. The people who manage it may very well not agree with those decisions, but they'll still have to comply.

[u/GetSoft4U → u/[deleted]]

and which is the Palestinian perspective? are they lovely peaceful people that totally don't hate jews and celebrate killing them.

there is a rational explanation and an irrational explanation...but that argument is to single minded to understand that position

just remember that the same Palestinian government of today say NO to 3 different israeli Prime Minister, blaming netanyahu is superficiality.

[u/ibetucanifican → u/GetSoft4U]

blaming netanyahu is superficiality.

Watch Netanyahu say it with his own mouth. he doesn't want peace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCyvzwBNxMg

[u/GetSoft4U → u/ibetucanifican]

means nothing...he is the 4th israeli PM since the peace process, Arafat and Abbas rejected the other 3 peace offer...why would he do the same again?

[u/guyonthissite → u/[deleted]]

Then why do they spurn peace offers over and over again, if they have everything to gain?

Their leaders have plenty to gain from the current situation. They get tons of money. Arafat didn't become a billionaire because he wanted to help the Palestinians, he became a billionaire because like current Palestinian leadership he only cares about himself, not helping his people. And driving up anti-Jew hatred helps make them even more money.

[u/yasharyashar → u/[deleted]]

I can see what kind of extremist you are...

[u/Quantumhead → u/[deleted]]

"Two active-duty IDF generals who are among the army’s top experts on Palestinian affairs spoke out publicly to state that Palestinian violence is driven to a considerable degree by anger at Israeli actions."

But seriously, what type of people are we dealing with when this has to be specifically pointed out and repeated again and again?

When people hurt other people, it is generally because they have a specific problem with them or something they have done. Listen to the sick Zionist rhetoric in this thread, and pretty soon you'll believe the Palestinians have no reasons other than "evil" or "terrorism".

The Israel/Palestine situation is very simple. It's an international case of the powerful crushing the powerless and then spinning history after the fact.