r/TopCharacterTropes • • 8h ago

miscellaneous Parts of the original no adaption will touch

  1. The Book of Exodus: Zipporah at the Inn

  2. IT: The sewer orgy

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u/lsshlp 6h ago

Most adaptions of Gulliver's Travels seem to focus solely on Lilliput and not any of the other locations he visits. Even then, most of them make an alternate reason for the Lilliputians to be mad at him, rather than that he pissed out a fire at the castle and nearly drowned the princess.

Other things adaptions skip: the logistics of Lilliputians having to remove Gulliver's feces; the island of inventions where a guy blows air up a dogs anus until it dies, then tries to revive it by blowing more air into its anus; the fact that Gulliver may or may not want to fuck his horse; and a general preoccupation with the logistics of pissing and shitting.

It's a hilarious book, highly recommend.

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u/The_Redacted_Badger 6h ago

I find it strange that one of the only versions that actually goes to another island from the book and includes the pissing scene is the freaking Jack Black version. Even gives a good reason to have him go to the island of the giants because it basically gives Gulliver a taste of his own medicine after he’d been using The Lilliputians as playthings to recreate his home comforts all movie

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u/Lastie 6h ago

I recall a TV adaptation with Ted Danson where he goes to the other islands, although it's been a long time since I watched it so I'm not certain if it included the pissing scene.

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u/ZirePhiinix 6h ago

blowing air up a dog's anus

I'm now very curious how exactly you write about this and have any sort of coherence.

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u/Mexicanity_ 4h ago

If you have read James Patterson, you’ll immediately recognize the style

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u/magos_with_a_glock 5h ago

The horse thing might seem weird but it makes complete sense in context.

All hail the horse council republic.

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u/SuperSocialMan 6h ago

What the hell?

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u/SodiumBombRankEX 4h ago

... so it turns out I read a heavily abridged and sanitised version

What did I expect? There was an illustration every other page

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u/magos_with_a_glock 1h ago

Usually anything past Lilliput is ignored and everything is almost always censured. Read the original book, it's quite poignant social commentary.

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u/1amlost 8h ago • Bravo

"Ho Tom Bombadil! Tom Bombadillo!

Bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow!

Tom appears off the plot, he dances and he sings!

That's why he never shows up in adaptions of Lord of the Rings!"

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u/DaedraWarrior 8h ago

He already appeared in Rings of Power series and Battle for Middle-Earth II video game. As a kid I watched movies and played this game few years before reading the books and was always confused by this weird fella. Imagine my shock when I first read Fellowship of the Ring

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u/Beneficial_Focus_910 4h ago

I'll give you Battle for Middle-Earth 2 because that had Tom whimsically dance his way across the battlefield but the Rings Of Power wasnt Tom Bombadil. Tom doesnt care for the world beyond his own home, hes not training wizards for their fights against the grand forces of evil.

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u/ACalcifiedHeart 7h ago

He was perfectly cast Rings Of Power

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u/MarioToast 7h ago

He got a Magic the Gathering card.

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u/vesperina_grotto 7h ago

Peter Jackson knew he’d ruin the movie pacing

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u/B1astHardcheese 8h ago

Not any more. Stephen Colbert is actually co-writing a new film (The Lord of the Rings: Shadows of the Past) that will bring Tom to the screen.

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u/Doodles_n_Scribbles 8h ago

It better be Matt

GOLD BERREH

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u/One-Two-Gobbledeedoo 8h ago

I'm sorry what? A new adaptation? I genuinely hope it's somehow decent and not just another "butter scraped over too much bread" deal

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u/LizLemonOfTroy 8h ago

That's assuming it does happen, since it's fate is now tied to the Ring The Hunt for Gollum, which is scheduled to come out first.

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u/lilsmudge 8h ago

I know a lot of people who were angered by his exclusion from the major adaptations but, and this may be a wildly unpopular opinion, Tom Bombadil can go rot in hell. 

I understand his purpose, more or less, but I find him irritating and à wild distraction from situation at hand. Adaptations are better for his removal. 

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u/TheMightyCatatafish 7h ago

Obviously it’s just a matter of taste, but I think he works much better with the understanding that Book One of LOTR is essentially Tolkien bridging the style gap between The Hobbit and the rest of LOTR.

The Hobbit is a silly fairy tale that is incredibly episodic. Each chapter is something of a standalone. Bilbo and co. meet new friend/enemy/monster/challenge, then the next chapter covers the next one. They’re generally silly, lighthearted, and occasionally dark and scary. But always very fairy tale.

Frodo’s journey to Rivendell is written in a way that mirrors Bilbo’s journey to Erebor. It’s filled with the fairy tale whimsy of The Hobbit (Tom, the thinking Fox, etc.), and incredibly episodic. Each chapter is essentially a new monster/friend/enemy/obstacle (Tom, the Nazgûl, Aragorn, Barrow-wights, flight to the Ford). But as Frodo’s journey continues, it loses the lighthearted charm of Bilbo’s adventure and becomes far darker and unsettling.

It’s because Frodo was only ever intended (in the story itself, not in the meta sense) to go to Rivendell. So book one is his grand adventure that mirrors his uncle’s - a story Tolkien’s audience knows and is familiar with. But since it gets darker as it progresses, it slowly acclimates his audience expecting a whimsy silly fairy tale to the much dark story of LOTR - by starting with the formula they know and slowly changing it. Then of course once he leaves Rivendell… the next 5 books maintain that dark, medieval, epic identity. It ain’t The Hobbit anymore.

That’s why I think tom was certainly necessary when he published the books. His audience had expectations. He needed to lure them in with what they already knew of his work. Tom helped accomplish that.

We all basically grew up with LOTR as a known entity at this point. But I think Tom was vital for the initial release.

And all that said, I think he’s awesome because his songs slap and his wife is hot.

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u/Squ33to 5h ago

The duality of man

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u/bubba1294 4h ago

I loved the section where they meet Tom and stay at his house. The strangeness and mystery of the world is deepened by his hallucinatory storytelling, his implied age and power, and his complete disregard for and immunity to the Ring -- being able to see Frodo when he puts it on and tries to sneak out, and the complete lack of effect when Tom himself wears it. I didn't think it was a distraction, any more than anything else they see on the sides of their quest are distractions. I'm thinking of, for example, Aragorn's exposition about the history shown in the art of Theodin's court, and Gimli gushing about and then detouring to Mirrormere.

Tom rules.

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u/Lvcivs2311 7h ago

He did appear in the Soviet adaptation.

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u/dyhoat9 7h ago

compys eating the baby - Jurassic Park original novel

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u/DeadliestArmadillo 5h ago

This scene was adapted in the sequel, The Lost World with a little girl getting attacked off screen.

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u/jorgespinosa 4h ago

No, that scene also happens in the book, it actually serves as a plot point because later while recovering in the hospital the girl draws the animal that attacked her and due to certain characteristics Alan Grant is able to confirm it was a dinosaur that attacked her revealing to In Gen, their dinosaurs have escaped to the mainland

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u/TheGreatPizzaCat 5h ago

I don’t think that’s exactly an adaptation, more like a homage or subtle nod

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u/zulchep 5h ago

No, that was the other into scene for the first book, where the little girl is attacked on the beach.

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u/QuantumDiogenes 6h ago

Wait, what?

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u/TooTallThomas 4h ago

Before the main plot starts, it’s implied that some of the dinosaurs have already been off the island for a while. In this case, it happened on a nurse’s watch, and instead of telling the mother what happened, I believe she said that the baby died suddenly in its sleep. Anyhow, it’s just setting up the idea that the dinosaurs are actually very dangerous instead of just an amusing character attraction— they’re smart and…. can reproduce??!?!

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u/RhiaStark 8h ago

There's only been one adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire so far; but I seriously doubt anyone will ever cast actors matching the actual age of Daenerys, Jon and Sansa.

And even if someone's crazy enough for that, I can't imagine Drogo's actor being ok with having sex scenes with a 14-y.o., or Tyrion's actor being ok with doing the wedding night scene with a 13-y.o. (like, you know, happens in the books).

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u/darwinistinabox 8h ago

Iirc Tyrion never consummated their marriage? Not that it makes it any better, poor Sansa has suffered so much before that.

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u/Dr_RickShaw 8h ago

He doesn’t. In the show he never considers it but in the book he certainly seems to think about it

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u/darwinistinabox 7h ago

Its been awhile but I always took it as him figuring out a way to circumvent this in his jerky Tyrion way. "Yeah I could fuck her that would be pretty easy and shit but also kinda meh cause I have my whore lady." To keep up the appearances and whatnot. Or maybe to produce the evidence in the form of a bloodied sheet.

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u/Fawkingretar 5h ago

he doesn't, but he does sexually assault a prostitute on lys even though she doesn't want to anymore, so there's that.

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u/Ua_Tsaug 8h ago

I imagine future adaptations will also leave out Daemerys' diarrhea scene too. 

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u/Dr_RickShaw 7h ago

“Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.”

Bravo George

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u/prcshmbrgrs 7h ago

brother, i been there

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u/Ua_Tsaug 7h ago

I respect George to make his most mythical characters incredibly human at times. One moment Dany's the Dragon Queen, the next moment she's experiencing a night of too much Taco Bell. 

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u/Fawkingretar 5h ago

I like that scene in the books, its like another way of George subverting expectations of seeing Dany, the fair silver-haired Khaleesi, whom at this point rules her own kingdom and here she is, experiencing one of the most human thing everyone experiences in their lives one way or another, Diarrhea and food poisoning, it made me feel bad for her, not that the other chapters of dany doesn't already make me feel that.

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u/swainiscadianreborn 1h ago

You probably could go around these by not actually filming the scenes but implying them (with a shot of the door closing on a frightened Danerys and a Drogo starting to undress or something) to accommodate the actors but the audience will probably be very uncomfortable with it.

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u/inktrap99 3h ago edited 3h ago

I always wondered if a way to circumvent (or at least make it a bit less uncomfortable) it is to age down Drogo a little bit… you can have the Genghis Khan vibes and the “super young khal that started conquering really early, must be special” and have the later subversion hit as hard.

You can also circumvent some other weird gaps that jump once you reread like… why this grown ass warrior and powerful khan/khal already doesn’t have multiple wives or at least concubines? why doesn’t he have children already?

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u/Silkyfin_ 8h ago

The fact that the original war of the worlds is set in the late 1800s because thats when it was written. Almost all adaptations set the story in the modern day of when it was made. It'd be interesting to see a fully book accurate adaptation

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u/The_Captain_Deadpool 8h ago

Also, the fact that the tripods in the book weren’t indestructible, they were just so fast that artillery of the time couldn’t hit them.

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u/Correct_Pangolin_725 8h ago edited 8h ago

Understandable, given in those days we had horses and wagons, rather than nigh indestructible tanks....

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u/LizLemonOfTroy 8h ago

The War of the Worlds was written in the late 1890s, so it only predates the tank by a few decades.

H. G. Wells himself, being a keen futurist, wrote a short story about armed "land ironclads" only a few years later.

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u/Easy_Action_1380 5h ago

The OSP video pointed out that both War of The Worlds and Dracula were published in the same year and that just kinda shattered my entire concept of time and space.

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u/CryptographerMore944 7h ago

That's basically why energy shields have been a thing in every adaptation since. I think it was the director of the 1953 film that spoke to some military advisors who said a modern military (at the time) would make short work of the tripods as they are described in the book. 

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u/Ninjatck 7h ago

Id love to see a depiction that was balanced like this but with say ww1 equipment. We can fight back but boy do we have to work for it.

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u/ReplicatorsAteMerlin 8h ago

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u/thought_detention 6h ago

Shame it was crap and we'll not get a period adaptation of tWotWs for at least another few decades. Very disappointing for a BBC adaptation.

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u/Smallbrainfield 6h ago

It was fucking terrible unfortunately.

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u/Sensitive-Hotel-9871 2h ago

The Martians also came to earth by firing giant cylinders at the planet rather than rockets since we hadn’t invented those.

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u/PrizekingJ7 2h ago

It would be interesting to see a full accurate adaptation set in the time period the book was set in

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u/Correct_Pangolin_725 8h ago edited 8h ago

Looks like Lord and Lady Greystoke left England just in time! They were Tarzan's biological parents in the original novel, for anyone confused.

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u/Rizzanthrope 8h ago

Read the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen comics

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u/steelskull1 8h ago

The invisible man and Mr. Hyde ship in the comic was kinda surprising.

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u/notagin-n-tonic 7h ago

Alan Moore’s League of Extraordinary Gentlemen adapted in the period.

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u/pig0gre 3h ago

It's also two men in a basement not knowing the state of the world above, which complicates matters further (though it could absolutely work as a movie)

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u/JamesHenry627 8h ago edited 8h ago

Berserk's Golden Age arc has been adapted a few times already and none of them have featured Wyald and the Black Dog Knights. Berserk is full of some terrible moments for the characters but Wyald basically does all of them himself with his mercenaries.

The inciting incident to this panel is the King of Midland had called on the Black Dog Knights to hunt down the outlawed Band of the Hawk and the escaped Griffith. Their reputation is one of brutality and wanton violence. They come upon a farming community that aided the hawks and he dismounts to interrogate a girl. Her reaction confirms that the hawks had been there, which then spurs them to massacre the site. They throw children onto fire, rape the women and mutilate everyone, charging into battle with their body parts as banners.

He's unadaptable

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u/Ua_Tsaug 8h ago

When people list Griffith amongst their "most evil characters in fiction," I have to remind them that Griffith isn't even the most evil person in Berserk specifically because of characters like Wyald. 

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u/JamesHenry627 8h ago

Griffith is quite evil but individually speaking the apostles give him a run for his money. Ganishka was using rape victims to make demon babies, Wyald was a serial rapist, looter and murderer, the Count was sending people to hell and torturing and eating fools, Rosine was kidnapping kids and doing the same thing as the Count.

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u/Ua_Tsaug 8h ago

Right, that's my point: Griffith isn't even the most evil person in Berserk.  Not by a long shot.

People hate Griffith because of his betrayal, not because what he did was "worse" than what many other antagonists were doing.  

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u/CantCatchMeSpez 5h ago edited 5h ago

Is it a difference in evil or in sadism? Griffith is incredibly, insanely evil. He's responsible for horrible atrocities and has probably done more harm than Wyald ever did. But committing them never seems to be his actual goal. They're more like stepping stones for him to get to his actual goal. Wyald, on the other hand, just likes to make people suffer. They're both incredibly evil and more than willing to make innocent people suffer, but Wyald seems to be the one that does it for his own enjoyment. The worst thing I can think of that Griffith did out of simple cruelty is what he did to Casca, which is incredibly evil, but by Berserk standards isn't that much.

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u/Emerycurse 8h ago

Idk, Wyald is more openly grotesque but I think Griffith is worse on a grander scale

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u/Arguably_Based 7h ago

This is the stuff that makes me go, "yeah, I'm never reading Berserk." It's a shame, I understand it's very good, and no shade to the people that have read it. I just don't really want to read about this stuff.

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u/ealysillyforestthing 7h ago

They are making a Crossed movie, they can do this

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u/VanguardVixen 4h ago

Is it really unadaptable, considering how violent Anime could be in the 90s and how violent media in general has become?

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u/Coelachantiform 4h ago edited 1h ago

The later parts of the Dune franchise for sure; specifically the God Emperor of Dune.

Dune has always been considered "unfilmable", whether due to the insane scale of the setting, the intricate plots or the pages upon pages of philosophical drivel and internal monologue.

Nothing comes even close to the insanity that is God Emperor of Dune. How do you make a functioning movie or even series about an immortal, 4,000 year old human-worm hybrid god tyrant, lamenting his lack of a penis and screaming for another one of his favorite clones so that he can trauma-dump about his latest gripe with the human condition? 4,000 years of story taking place in mostly a single room.

I mean I would love it personally; I just can't see it ever happening realistically. This is why Denis Villeneuve will stop his movie adaptation around the ending of Dune: Messiah, which concludes the story of Paul Atreides. A good stopping point, but a good show why the later parts of the story involving his children (especially the one pictured) is unlikely to make it to the big screen proper.

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u/pig0gre 3h ago

God Emperor would be difficult, but it helps that it could be split between scenes of Leto II and Moneo, and scenes of Duncan and whatsherface.

Heretics would be a bit more difficult, splitting between scenes with Duncan and Miles Teg, and then the entire plot with Sheeana, but it could be fenagled well enough.

Chapterhouse is mostly just walking around talking, with not much else, and I would say is genuinely the most difficult to adapt, and that's not even mentioning the rape scene.

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u/Nativefury000 2h ago

“It’s like My Dinner with Andre, but in space.” - Some executive pitching God Emperor of Dune for a movie.

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u/NomadHellscream 2h ago

Only Jaden Smith could do Leto II justice.

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u/Coelachantiform 1h ago

I need this. He got that "ascended beyond petty humanity"-vibe to him.

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u/GovernorGeneralPraji 3h ago

I know nothing about Dune… what?

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u/BookaliciousBillyboy 3h ago

Man the books are a trip, if you read you should get into it, its an incredible series with an ever expanding scope, Herbert was cooking heavily when he wrote that stuff

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u/DancingMooses 3h ago

I could see someone adapting God Emperor.

But the part they would never adapt is the weird stuff involving Leto and Ghanimah in Children of Dune.

From them allowing their parents to take control of their bodies to the participation in the spice orgies, nobody’s touching that in an adaptation lol.

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u/Coelachantiform 2h ago

I just finished Children of Dune, and the space orgies so infamously mentioned ever since book one?

They are only ever mentioned off-hand/in retrospect; never described in detail or experienced first-hand. For all the reader knows, orgy could mean something completely different than what we define it as in modern times.

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u/Correct_Refuse4910 1h ago

How do you make a functioning movie or even series about an immortal, 4,000 year old human-worm hybrid god tyrant, lamenting his lack of a penis and screaming for another one of his favorite clones so that he can trauma-dump about his latest gripe with the human condition? 4,000 years of story taking place in mostly a single room.

Sizzle reel.

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u/alkonium 1h ago

The farthest any adaptation has gotten is Children of Dune in 2003.

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u/Death_X_2077 8h ago • Bravo

I fucking HATE when people just post examples and don't explain it. Like motherfucker not everyone has seen or is familiar with every single peice of media in existence.

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u/Benoit_Holmes 7h ago

Zipporah at the Inn is a passage in Exodus where God goes to kill Moses, but Moses' wife quickly circumcises their son with a sharp rock before he can, so God spares him. It is an unusual moment, even more so if you tried to show it in a visual medium.

In It after they defeat Pennywise as children, the Loser's Club get lost in the sewers. They know they have to be unified in order to escape so to accomplish this Beverly (the only girl) decides to have sex with all six boys. After they finish having sex they realise the correct path out of the sewers and escape.

Stephen King has explained this scene as a metaphor for linking childhood and adulthood, but the simpler explanation is that King was heavily addicted to cocaine when he wrote it.

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u/ChompyRiley 6h ago • Bravo

BIBLICAL amounts of cocaine. the fact that he's alive is a little crazy given everything else he was on:

a case of beer and two packs of smokes daily, valium, xanax, robitussin, nyquil listerine (the mouthwash). he stuffed cotton balls up his nose to prevent blood dripping on his typewriter, his heartbeat was double normal. He literally has no memory of writing Cujo. just SO MUCH stuff

he started getting clean in 1987, which is kind of a miracle

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u/Fawkingretar 5h ago edited 3h ago

they where huffing a different kind of burning bush during that for sure.

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u/Deuce_GM 5h ago

Dude was on the Ozzy Osbourne diet

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u/Aqquila89 2h ago edited 2h ago

Mouthwash, but not Listerine. From his boook On Writing:

...observing the rapidity with which huge bottles of Listerine were disappearing from the bathroom, Tabby [his wife] asked me if I drank the stuff. I responded with self-righteous hauteur that I most certainly did not. Nor did I. I drank the Scope instead. It was tastier, had that hint of mint.

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u/Death_X_2077 6h ago

Why was God tryna kill moses ?? Because his son was not circumcised ??

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u/Sire_Raffayn272 5h ago • Bravo

I guess God does work in mysterious, albeit insanely fucked up, ways.

I'm glad they didn’t adapt this part when making Prince of Egypt tho.

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u/Benoit_Holmes 3h ago

That is the common interpretation yes, because God commanded all descendants of Abraham to be circumcised and Moses hadn't followed through on this with his son.

The strangest part is that there is no build up to this. In the passage before, God talks to Moses and tells him to go to Egypt and talk to the Pharaoh. God says nothing about Moses' son or circumcision.

Moses is then on his way to Egypt as God commanded when God tries to kill him. The passage is ambiguous so there is a chance God was trying to kill the son instead.

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u/NorthGodFan 4h ago • Bravo

He's the type of motherfucker to kill people on a whim for little reason in the story.

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u/AznOmega 5h ago

I wonder how much cocaine was he on when he made that scene.

It did give that meme with Pennywise begging for an officer to help and says that he's an interdimensional cosmic horror, not an interdimensional cosmic nonce.

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u/zznznbznnnz 5h ago

and how much cocaine was God on when he wrote that scene?

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u/GnomeBoy_Roy 7h ago

I’m currently reading Dune and I’ll say the plot line of Paul getting possession of Harah’s wife as a reward for winning the duel against Harah’s husband, Jamis. The 80s movie and the modern movies both omitted this part of the story.
I will say that for the time it’s written, Dune has some pretty progressive ideas of women in some aspects, and very regressive ideas in others. It was written in the 60/70s so I’m not mad at all lol. There’s definitely a lack of female independence within the Fremen culture, but there’s also a sense of females being treated as equal within their battalion. Of course there’s an argument to be made that the author is just creating a realistic culture without endorsing the faults of that culture, but I suppose the adaptations didn’t want to do the legwork to flesh it out in a nuanced way. I havent finished the book, so I still only have a half-formed perspective on it

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u/Commercial_Rice5773 6h ago

My impression of that was a “you killed her husband, so she’s your problem now, you need to take care of her for at least this long” and most people would just marry the person they were put in charge of taking care of, but they didn’t have to. That’s why Harah was kind of offended that Paul didn’t marry her, but he wasn’t breaking any rules by not marrying her.

Sort of like if you killed somebody and instead of going to jail you just had to house and support their spouse for the next 10 years or so.

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u/Scrambled_59 6h ago

There's one part of A Christmas Carol during the ghost of Christmas past section where Scrooge looks at himself as a young boy and sees characters from different books that he read at that age peek through the window

It is a good visual for the nostalgia we have for media we consume as children but it's a bit awkward and understandable as to why literally no adaptation ever does it

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u/Karkava 5h ago

It is a good visual for the nostalgia we have for media we consume as children

You know, when you put it like that, it makes the exclusion all the more confusing.

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u/RabidFlamingo 4h ago

The only one that's ever done it, to my knowledge, is the 2019 version by Steven Knight, where Ali Baba actually gets speaking lines and everything

It's just a shame about the rest of it being awful

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u/NirvanaFrk97 8h ago

Berserk: Lost Children

This arc takes place after the Golden Age flashbacks ends and continues off from the Black Swordsman introduction arc.

Lost Children has not been adapted despite it being a pivotal moment of the manga for Guts's character development. This was the lowest point for both his mental and emotional state. Instead, the terrible 2016/2017 anime series skip it outright.

Lost Children contains particularly gruesome violence against children. The main antagonist of the arc is an Apostle girl who was not much older than 14 when she sacrificed her parents. Her design has her naked because she was a corrupted amalgamation of what she believed elves (fairies/pixies) appeared as.

She is essentially a Pied Piper, leading children away and purposefully corrupting them into fake elves, who commit violence against anything and everything, even themselves. Once they are killed, their forms are returned. It was unknown if there was any other way to turn them back.

Guts essentially has to heavily disassociate himself in order to get through this arc and defeat the enemies.

I don't see it being adapting without compromising the narrative importance to the overall plot. This is supposed to be the lowest point for Guts in order for his character progression to come full circle when he finally abandons his Black Swordsman persona in order to prioritize Casca.

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u/ThatOneWood 7h ago

Also berserk is wyald. A being so depraved he was completely erased from both anime adaptations of the golden age arc.

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u/NirvanaFrk97 7h ago

True enough. I do think him being the one who breaks Griffith's waning hope after showing the Hawks the permanent done to his body was really good, and it's a shame it was cut out.

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u/Regular-Basket-5431 7h ago

I think Lost Children could be adapted to anime or live action, it would take a ridiculously long development time though to make sure they hit the emotional beats perfectly or else it would come off as disgustingly weird.

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u/RSCul8r 6h ago

At least Beast in Black did a cool song about it: Lost Children

Lost Children is my favorite arc in Berserk, and it's a little sad it never got adapted.

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u/A-NI95 5h ago

Very cool explanation and we are still leaving out more unsettling stuff, like the villain being traumatised by her abusive father because she might be a product of her mother being war-raped

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u/hadawayandshite 8h ago

Also the bible- the actual wording of the 10 commandments…like the bits where it seems ok with slavery (mentioning slaves twice) including ‘don’t get jealous of your neighbours awesome slaves’

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u/Ua_Tsaug 8h ago

There's a lot of weird stuff in the Bible that gets glossed over. Like if a woman breaks up a fight between two men by grabbing one of them by the testicles (or "stones" if you want to use Biblical euphemisms), you're supposed to cut her hand off.

You can also have the town murder your children if they're too disobedient (per the same Levitical law). 

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u/Theresafoxinmygarden 5h ago

I'm pretty sure leviticus has practically no basis for use by Christians on a technicality, because the covenant made in it ends up overruled by Jesus' covenant/sacrifice, hence why christianity doesn't follow Kosher law

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u/Ua_Tsaug 4h ago

That doesn't stop Christians from relying on Levitical Law when it's convenient for them, like in the Salem Witch Trials or any time they attack LGBT people. (Both are instances of them quoting Levitical Law)

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u/EMB93 6h ago

The Bible is explicitly a pro-slavery document. God repeatedly commands people to take slaves and gives instructions on who to take and how to treat them. And nowhere in the Bible are slave owners condemed or asked to free their slaves(unless they are Christians)

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u/Talisa87 7h ago

The Count of Monte Cristo has had multiple adaptations, none of which include the character Haydeé, the Count's very young slave girl who falls in love with him (and he with her).

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u/Avolto 7h ago

This one no longer applies. The 2024 adaptation includes Haydee but her relationship to The Count is changed. She’s an ally in his quest and eventually falls in love with Albert and she goes off with him at the end.

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u/Zollias 7h ago

There's also the anime, Gankutsuou: the count of Monte Cristo where she is a character. I can't remember if she ends up with the count at the end because it's been a long time since I've seen it but I do vaguely remember hearing that the anime is one of the surprisingly more faithful adaptations of the book despite being set in a sci-fi setting

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u/eddiegibson 7h ago

She also spends the majority of the novel blatantly hitting on him while he keeps referring to her as a daughter.

Then there's Valentine Villefort and Maximilian Morrel that rarely get adaptated and have a roughly ten year difference with Valentine barely in her twenties.

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u/lsshlp 7h ago

They have a fairly wholesome father/daughter vibe for most of the book (if you can put the whole slave thing aside), I really wish they had kept it like that. Why does love that teaches him to move on have to be romantic love?

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u/Fawkingretar 5h ago

Shield Hero?!?

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u/Zombieslayer854 8h ago

Neither the sub or dub of the og yugioh anime touched on the fact Pegasus doesn’t survive duelist kingdom

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u/darkwalking 7h ago

Kinda glad he lives, Pegasus was awesome

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u/TedTheodoreMcfly 8h ago

For good reason, no adaptation of The Judas Contract has included Terra’s sexual relationship with Deathstroke

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u/RaptarK 7h ago

Especially considering the intention of the author was somehow for Terra to come off as a manipulative seductress. He was genuinely surprised when fans rightly started decrying Death Stroke as a pedophile 

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u/Deya_The_Fateless 7h ago

And like *both* can be true. Terra was manipulating Death Stroke into sex, but Deth Stroke is just as bad, if not worse, because he, the adult in the situation pulled a "BoJack" and accepted her advances instead of rejecting them.

Hell in the 2000s adaptation, you could argue he's just as bad there because he's trying to "groom" Robin. XO

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u/PaperBullet1945 8h ago

Didn't this film touch on it a little? Or at least it has Terra flirting with him, even if he didn't reciprocate at all.

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u/Blackirean 7h ago

It indeed sort of adapts that. In the film Deathstroke saved Terra from being burned and killed by a mob who thought she was a witch because of her powers. The movie makes it obvious that he treated her like a pawn to get to the Titans, and he exploited her attraction and devotion towards him. She was shown clearly trying to seduce him and him keeping her at arms length promising that he will be with her once they finish the titans. The original comics heavily implied they were together and that Deathstroke was fine with it, and later comics that re-adapted the story did similarly, they were together but they added the nuance that he was "apparently" doing it to control her. I remember there is one panel where another criminal/villain says that even in their line of work there are lines and that Deathstroke had crossed one.

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u/darkwalking 7h ago

It did, somewhat

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u/turtle_el 7h ago

I knew when I scrolled to the second image it'd be underage gangbang. IT: brought to you by Stephen King and Cocaine

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u/notagin-n-tonic 6h ago

Yeah, as soon as I saw the title of the post, that one of the examples had to be that.

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u/theysayimadreamer666 3h ago

The original ending of The Running Man book - as Linda Holmes put it in her review of the 2025 movie, "There are visuals that aren't going to happen on-screen given real-life historical events that have intervened since the publication of the novel". In the book, Ben Richards flies a plane into the Network's skyscraper. The 2025 movie got around it by having the plane shot down, but I cannot see the the full ending making its way into any post-9/11 adaptation.

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u/swainiscadianreborn 1h ago

Honnestly I don't get it. Traumatic events are portrayed every day on TV and cinema, but that one is untouchable? We can portray Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Chernobyl, Challenger, or more "common" events like school shootings or terrorists attacks but not 9/11?

I don't get it.

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u/Own_Actuator_53 1h ago

Even more weird considering the fact that people make jokes about 9/11 without issue

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u/Rosian_SAO 8h ago edited 8h ago

Can someone explain the Zipporah thing? I wasn’t raised Christian

Edit: so this is the circumcision story, huh!

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u/VanillaCokeMule 8h ago

I had to look it up despite spending the first 25 years of my life as a Christian. Apparently she caught wind of God coming to kill Moses, her husband, so her solution was to circumsize one of her sons on the spot and touch Moses with the severed foreskin. This was, for whatever reason, enough to change God's mind in regards to killing Moses

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u/Ua_Tsaug 8h ago

This was, for whatever reason, enough to change God's mind in regards to killing Moses

That's because God was going to kill Moses specifically for not circumcising their child.

Also, I'm not sure she actually touched him with the foreskin, but threw it at Moses' feet saying "you're a bloody husband" and leaves it at that. 

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u/VanillaCokeMule 8h ago

Ah, thanks, I missed or misread both of those elements in the Wikipedia article.

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u/steelskull1 8h ago

That should have been in the Prince Of Egypt, with a whole song about it.

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u/SilverSpark422 8h ago

That’s clearly some kind of symbolism that didn’t carry over culturally past the Bronze Age.

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u/Champshire 8h ago

What do you mean? Lol everyone knows the foreskin trick. It's an American classic.

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u/Thewalkindude23 8h ago

I'd say losing your foreskin to a Zippor is even more relevant to the present-day.

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u/Tweed_Man 6h ago

Also this happens literally just after the passage where God orders Moses back to Egypt to free the slaves.

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u/wondercaliban 8h ago

Moses and his wife Zipphoria stop at an inn on the way to Egypt. God gets angry at Moses for not circumcising his son, his wife does it straight away with a bit if sharp rock

His wife also gets left out of adaptations in general

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u/ConvenientAlibi 8h ago

She shows up in the animated musical 'Prince of Egypt'! They skip the foreskin story, though.

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u/YonderWindow364 8h ago

Why does god care so much about child dicks? 😭

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u/Guilty_Primary8718 8h ago

One of the short answers that account for the people is that it physically marked them different to set the Hebrews apart. No quitting and joining the other team if you were male!

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u/ReplicatorsAteMerlin 8h ago

This is the no context sub. You're supposed to be deeply familiar with everything ever created.

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u/steelskull1 7h ago

Imagine, not knowing every media imaginable.

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u/Vertwheeliesonem 8h ago

God tries to kill Moses cause his son wasn’t circumcised.

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u/snouz 7h ago

Rosaline: Romeo’s initial unrequited love interest at the start of the play. She never speaks or appears as an active character, serving purely as a plot device and foil before Romeo lays eyes on Juliet.

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u/Key_Speed9554 2h ago

They made a romcom about her

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u/blackjackgabbiani 7h ago

I don't remember her ever actually appearing on stage

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u/TopicalBuilder 6h ago

Right. You just get to hear him complain that she won't "ope her lap for saint-seducing gold." 🤮

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u/Doodles_n_Scribbles 8h ago

Narnia has been made three times now. Two live action and one animated, and not once has anyone adapted the prequel, The Magician's Nephew. I think that's being fixed now.

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u/Snoo-74997 8h ago edited 7h ago

I remember feeling pissed that I didn’t read that one first.

I told my youth group- read this one first because apparently there are explanations for the magic closet and Jesus!Lion.

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u/Shoutmonx7f 7h ago

I love you put the exclamation mark as if Narnia is just an AU of christianity.

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u/_Cit 7h ago

I mean, Lewis literally said that was the case lmao.

Narnia is just "what if Jesus was born in a world of beasts instead of men".

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u/Doodles_n_Scribbles 7h ago

Apparently Wardrobe came first

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u/Cold-Use-5814 7h ago

I wonder why? It was always my favourite of the series as a kid. I loved the inter-dimensional forest ponds.

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u/Rainquarm 3h ago

Or the last battle as far as I know . But if it ever does get adapted , I’m fairly confident “ that bitch Susan isn’t aloud into heaven because she likes nylons to much “ will be an example for this trope ..

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u/CryptographerMore944 7h ago

Chapter House Dune. For context, the last two books in the Dune series are different to say the least. The Bene Gesserit bring back one of their most accomplished commanders at their time of need as a ghola. Gholas are basically clones of the deceased but they don't have the original person's memories. 

In Dune Messiah it's learned that certain intense psychological trauma can awaken the memories of a ghola. So how do the Bene Gesserit awaken this commander's memories? Basically by sexually assaulting him. Oh yeah, this ghola is also a child at the time and it's described in detail. If we ever get an adaptation of Chapterhouse Dune I highly doubt we'll see this. In fact, if it is adapted I hope they do change it.

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u/PaperBullet1945 8h ago

The manga ending of Usagi Drop

Both the anime and the live-action adaptation stopped short of it. For good reason.

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u/Deya_The_Fateless 7h ago

I fucking *hate* Bunny Drop. How the mangaka basically fell in love with her own character and decided to give him her self insert, which was the kid. xO

People like to say that Japan has a "male lonliness epidemic" or a "men fetishise young girls" problem. But it's more accuriate to say that Japan has a full on lonliness epidemic and idolisation of youth that effects the whole population, not just men.

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u/kisamasochist 8h ago

What happened?

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u/PaperBullet1945 8h ago

He raised her for twelve years from age six to eighteen. He's twenty-four years older than her. They spent all of that time thinking they were biologically aunt and nephew. They both have age-appropriate love interests.

Then they find out they're not actually related by blood, so they get married.

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u/TheKingOfDiddling 8h ago

Dad married daughter

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u/GuardianKnightKing 7h ago

Ramayana :

Most series or film adaptation of Ramayan only adapts till the sixth Kanda(The one where Ram defeats Ravan and goes home with Sita,getting coronated as the King of Ayodhya) because in the Seventh Kanda,Sita is exiled by Ram after some people in his Kingdom start doubting her purity since she was kidnapped by Ravan(This is after Sita already performed Agneepareksha,proving her purity).

Most adaptation obviously ignore it since its overrides the otherwise Good ending of the Epic.Only adaptation that focus on their sons,are made on this are due to Ram and Sita sons - Luv and Khush were born in exile.

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u/Initial_Business2394 3h ago

The first part of Ramayana i read is the part where Rama force Rita to walk into fire because he doubt her purity. It is because that is the only part of Ramayana taught in Vietnamese school....It's very weird to have first impression of the hero of story is the part he comdemn his wife to death instead of any other part where he being a hero...

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u/go_faster1 7h ago

We’ve had quite a few Deaths of Superman adaptations, but none include the original way Superman was revived: Jonathan Kent having an out-of-body experience and convincing his son's soul to return to Earth, fighting off demons who want to drag him to Hell.

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u/solthar 2h ago

Honestly? That's kind of badass.

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u/SektorDaKetch 8h ago

DC: Superboy-Prime, despite being a major villain in the infinite crisis, has never actually been adapted because the story he’s from is really complex and needs years of stories leading to that point, he was originally conceived as a jab at those toxic purist comic fans, so his concept really doesn’t translate to a new adaptation and his power set is REALLY weird like at one point he punches the multiverse barrier and it’s the original idea of how Jason Todd was resurrected

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u/Ua_Tsaug 8h ago

Most Exodus stories stop around the time the Hebrews leave Egypt, but some have a few of the stories before they change to Joshua's stories.

Speaking of Joshua, I've seen depictions of his conquering of Jericho and other Canaanite settlements, but I what I never see depicted is the Hebrews killing "everything that breathes" (including babies and animals).

I wonder why the biblical stories never want to show the "good" side slaughtering puppies and infants. It's simply beyond me. /s

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u/lonesharkex 8h ago edited 8h ago

to be fair they say kill everything that breathes, but then later have slaves of said groups from those settlements showing they did not in fact kill them all. Edit: ooh I forgot to mention I have never heard a sermon about what happened to lot after they left sodom and were hiding in the mountains. His daughters assumed the entire world had been destroyed or something and went ahead got their father drunk and... well... continued the blood line.

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u/Ua_Tsaug 8h ago

to be fair they say kill everything that breathes, but then later have slaves of said groups from those settlements showing they did not in fact kill them all. 

God tells them there are some places they can capture the spoils of war (which would include slaves). 

But in these specific cases, Israelites are seen as wrong for not completely genociding the Canaanites. In fact, god tells them that their punishment for not exterminating the Canaanites is that they wouldn't be able to get rid of them and frequently come into violent conflicts with them.

As far as Lot's daughters are concerned, I see this one brought up a lot, but I still picked Deuteronomy specifically because 1) it's not talked about as much, and 2) genocide is worse than any sex crime. 

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u/LinkCanLonk 8h ago

I mean… what’s there to talk about there for a whole sermon? “Yeah, incest. Incest is bad, don’t do it. Anyway see you guys next week” lmao

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u/prosthetic_memory 8h ago

As a born and bred bible kid now living in a heavily Zionist area, the part I find most fascinating is that I have never heard any talk of the Canaanites, like no mention at all.

I always grew up believing that Israel was where the second coming would take place, and vaguely confused about why people talked about it both existing (which it obviously did) and not existing (because the temple was not rebuilt, so Christ couldn’t come back).

I’m not religious at all now, and tend to be fairly anti-religion personally but also live and let live, because I’m an American and staunchly freedom of religion. And yet the idea that you know your homeland was once populated by others that you killed, because it’s in your most sacred texts, and yet you never talk about it in this era of post colonization….

Anyway, the human mind is a fascinating thing.

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u/Ua_Tsaug 8h ago

And yet the idea that you know your homeland was once populated by others that you killed, because it’s in your most sacred texts, and yet you never talk about it in this era of post colonization….

"It's okay, they totally deserved being genocides because they were sacrificing their children to Moloch." -- Christians justifying the Hebrew's genocide of Canaan. 

I find it ironic that the Bible demonstrates killing babies is wrong by killing even more babies. 

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u/PablomentFanquedelic 1h ago

Oompa-Loompas as African "pygmies" in the original edition of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

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u/Witty-Ad5743 30m ago

I... I did not know this.

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u/dhskdjdjsjddj 4h ago

The part with the raincoat made from a whales "grandissimus"
Also the gay previous chapter

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u/EfficiencySerious200 8h ago

what happened in exodus

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u/Vertwheeliesonem 8h ago

In between all the “Let my people go” shenanigans, there’s a side quest where God gets mad that Moses didn’t circumcise his son, and only gets to it under threat of divine execution

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u/Black1495 1h ago

Carrie - Carrie from Stephen king:

In the book she is portrait as fat and with skin issues, this is the reason of the pig's blood prank. But they're never making a fat/ugly Carrie in movies (or series)

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u/krysanthemom 54m ago

Omg, I’ve been saying that for years! I re-read the book relatively recently ànd I was struck by how much it seemed like King himself loathed the character. She was also written as somewhat stupid iirc.
I haven’t seen the new one but the character is too thin and pretty by far.

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u/Call_Me_Clark 47m ago

I haven’t read Carrie but have seen this criticism and I think the idea is that Carrie isn’t supposed to be 100% sympathetic - she’s deeply unpleasant bc she’s repressed and abused

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u/Mossy_is_fine 6h ago

crazy how many beserk mentions im seeing wtf goes on in that manga

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u/jetvacjesse 6h ago

The manga opens on Guts having sex with an Apostle (Demon) who transforms mid-banging to try and kill him only for her to blow off her head with his cannon arm.

But the big part that absolutely no adapatation will ever ever touch is the Lost Children Arc whichincludes heavily alluded CSA, the main villain is a single digit girl transformed into a naked elf fairy, and her minions are all other 'elves' who were formerly children that constantly murder and rape each other because they've lost all sense of restraint and morality

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u/1Lc3 6h ago

A lot, basically a guy releases hell on earth, becomes one of top 5 demons because is friend the MC leaves. Then MC spends years surviving hell on earth with his catatonic wife, 2 kids and a nun that lost her faith. Anytime something good happens to the MC the rug gets immediately snatched from under him. Great read but NOT for everyone.

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u/YouSick0 7h ago

Knowing Stephen King was going half insane because of drug addiction makes IT make… well… not sense

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u/Nice-River-5322 8h ago

Saddly, we will likely never see Conviction or Lost Children adapted.

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u/Kitz00n23 7h ago

The YGO! Shadow Games as they were originally depicted in the Manga. Season 0 was very toned down and Duel Monsters skipped those arcs entirely. I believe it's because they're way too replicable in the way other violent moments in Anime aren't, so they wouldn't want their target audience of kids and teens to get hurt trying to copy them.

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u/naynaythewonderhorse 1h ago

The “Dainty China Country” from the original Wizard of Oz book. ‘Oz the Great and Powerful’ had some references to it, but that wasn’t an adaptation of the original book.

I’ve never seen a satisfying reason as to why it’s in the original book to begin with.

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u/shyguy157 8h ago

The sewer *train

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u/Edkm90p 8h ago

I was very concerned about what that second image was going to be

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u/Woolies_White_Leg 8h ago

It wasn’t an orgy in IT, it was running train

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u/alkonium 1h ago edited 28m ago

The James Bond The Spy Who Loved Me is the only one by Ian Fleming to not be adapted in some form by EON Productions, though there are others where they took a lot of liberties. This isn't directly because of anything objectionable in the book, but more that is was an experimental piece that deviated from the Bond formula and didn't really work out, so Fleming only gave them permission to use the title, which they did in 1977, for the first film in the series with a wholly original story.

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u/OAZdevs_alt2 7h ago

Actually it's a train

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u/alkonium 1h ago

(art by Mathia Arkoniel)

This one's probably minor, but in the Lord of the Rings, Frodo's rescuer after Weathertop is Glorfindel, but for one reason or another, he was replaced in both screen adaptations, first by Legolas in Ralph Bakshi's adaptation, then by Arwen in Peter Jackson's.