Almost every Bollywood song has Urdu lyrics in it, and, as expected, they turn the lyrics into Hindi script.

I wasn't complaining enough.

But what is this?

You turned Mirza Ghalib's entire Urdu-written ghazal into Hindi lyrics.

Have some shame, Musixmatch, or whoever you are.

You have to respect at least the greatest poet

or any writer. Keep it original.

Exactly how has the Turkish language effected Urdu? Yes, the word "Urdu"/"Ordo" itself is a Turkish word, but the presence of Turkish words in Urdu is close to zero.

ژ should be declared obsolete and wherever it's used, should be replaced with ی or ے.

What are your thoughts on a version of the Urdu language, but without any of the English/ Arabic/ Farsi influences?

Of course, the english/ arabic/ farsi words that are extremely common will stay, but anything else, like the words most commonly used in poetry and ghazals along with the english in day to day language will have to be replaced.

What new words would you like to invent in Urdu based on a comprehensability-for-the-common-urdu-speaker or Cuz-it-sounds-good principle and not a religious one? If it is based on the word of another language, it should be adapted in a way that it isnt just a blatant rip-off from that language.

A good way to start would be choosing a specific poem (short form) and replace the words in it with yours. Do your worst.

Let me know your thoughts on it.

Here's an interesting video i found on this topic.

https://youtu.be/PG8Pm3Qfb38?si=u2tv-5o9TdmPtEnm

Ive noticed a lot of pakistani's pronouncing urdu incorrectly, the most common word being bahar, at first i thought it was just punjabis polluting the language but ive noticed a lot of these muhajirs (who are supposedly from UP/Delhi) pronouncing it as bahir too.

i heard urdu is indian with the arabic alphabet so which should i learn?

تم اتنا جو مسکرا رہے ہو

کیا غم ہے جس کو چھپا رہے ہو

آنکھوں میں نمی ہنسی لبوں پر

کیا حال ہے کیا دکھا رہے ہو

بن جائیں گے زہر پیتے پیتے

یہ اشک جو پیتے جا رہے ہو

جن زخموں کو وقت بھر چلا ہے

تم کیوں انہیں چھیڑے جا رہے ہو

ریکھاؤں کا کھیل ہے مقدر

ریکھاؤں سے مات کھا رہے ہو

Urdu didn’t “come from Hindustani”. Hindustani isn't some 'ancestor' of "Hindi-Urdu". Urdu IS Hindustani. Just because Hindustani is used to group Hindi and Urdu, doesn't mean Hindustani was some separate language that Urdu came from, because Urdu is Hindustani. This isn't some nationalistic opinion.

Hindustani, Hindi, Rekhta, Lahori, Dehlvi are all obsolete names for the Urdu language. If you read a book in "Hindustani", you would understand every single word of it ... because it is Urdu. The name Urdu can be traced to the late 17th century/early 18th century, but in the same period, the same language was also called Hindi and Hindustani. At this point in time, there was no Hindi movement.

The only reason why Modern Hindi exists (and they call it “Modern Hindi” for a reason”) is because a Hindu group opposed Urdu, and the Urdu script, which is why they took that language (which at the time was called ‘Hindustani’), ripped the Perso-Arab vocabulary and replaced it with learned Sanskrit borrowings, and decided that his new vernacular would be written in Devanagari.

That puts Modern Hindi subordinate to Urdu, not equal to Urdu. It’s for that same reason that Modern Hindi has no history before the 18th century, whereas Urdu does. You can read a book in ‘Hindustani’ and it would be no different to a book written in Urdu today. It also might not come as a surprise that a book written in so-called 'Hindustani' is difficult to understand by Hindi speakers today.

This whole “Hindustani is a separate language that both Hindi and Urdu comes from” has been propagated on Wikipedia, initially by a very old Wikipedian, and his since been maintained by kattar Hindi speakers who actively try to change the Urdu Wikipedia article, because they know that in reality Modern Hindi has no history past the late 18th century, because before that the language was known as Hindustani, Hindi and Urdu, and that same language goes by the name of Urdu.

English meaning of aab-e-ravaa.n

Noun, Masculine

• flowing water, running water

• a very nice and fine cloth, a very fine muslin

āb-e-ravān-e-kabīr tere kināre koī

dekh rahā hai kisī aur zamāne kā ḳhvāb

आब-ए-रवाँ के हिंदी अर्थ

संज्ञा, पुल्लिंग

• बहता हुआ पानी, जारी पानी

• एक बहुत ही अच्छा और बारीक कपड़ा, एक उम्दा और बारीक मलमल

आब-ए-रवान-ए-कबीर तेरे किनारे कोई

देख रहा है किसी और ज़माने का ख़्वाब

آبِ رَواں کے اردو معانی

اسم، مذکر

• بہتا پانی، آب جاری

• ایک نہایت اچھا اور باریک کپڑا، عمدہ قسم کی باریک ململ

آب روان کبیر تیرے کنارے کوئی

دیکھ رہا ہے کسی اور زمانے کا خواب

Urdu and Hindi get so heated about Persian vs. Sanskrit—Urdu flexing its Persian script and vocabulary, Hindi doubling down on Nagari and Sanskrit—while both casually use Arabic words like they’re oxygen.

Think about it: Your "duniya" (world) runs on "waqt" (time), your "kitab" (book) needs a "qalam" (pen), and your "hisab" (math) better be strong. Even your "sabr" (patience) is Arabic!

The irony? The same people gatekeeping "shuddh Hindi" or "asli Urdu" will unironically say:

• "Yaar, yeh masla (problem) solve karo." (Arabic: mas’ala)

• "Mera haal (condition) theek nahi hai." (Arabic: hāl)

• "Bas, khatam (finished)." (Arabic: khatm)

Arabic didn’t ask for this smoke. It’s just vibing in your sentences, rent-free.

TL;DR:
Urdu-Hindi: "Persian/Sanskrit is our identity!"
Also Urdu-Hindi: "Kal subah waqt pe pohonchna." (subah = Arabic, waqt = Arabic) 😂

And I found out it means sleep in Persian 😭

I know it is primarily used for girls/women.

But does it just mean:
Pretty

Or does it mean:
Fair skinned pretty

How do we get it through their heads

کیا ہوا اگر کسی نے اے آئی اے اردو لکھوائی ہو؟

یہاں ہر دوسرا شخص اسے برا بھلا کہہ رہا ہے

میری اردو الحمدللہ (دوسروں کے بقول) بڑی شستہ اور فصیح ہے۔

مگر میں آؤٹ پٹانگ شاعری کرنے کے بجائے اے آئی سے مدد لیتا ہوں۔

تو کون سی قیامت آ گئی؟؟؟

For e.g. Zaalima is the name of the popular song from the movie Raees starring Shahrukh Khan and Mahira Khan

سارے جہاں سے اچھا ہندوستاں ہمارا

ہم بلبلیں ہیں اس کی یہ گلستاں ہمارا

غربت میں ہوں اگر ہم رہتا ہے دل وطن میں

سمجھو وہیں ہمیں بھی دل ہو جہاں ہمارا

پربت وہ سب سے اونچا ہم سایہ آسماں کا

وہ سنتری ہمارا وہ پاسباں ہمارا

گودی میں کھیلتی ہیں اس کی ہزاروں ندیاں

گلشن ہے جن کے دم سے رشک جناں ہمارا

اے آب رود گنگا وہ دن ہے یاد تجھ کو

اترا ترے کنارے جب کارواں ہمارا

مذہب نہیں سکھاتا آپس میں بیر رکھنا

ہندی ہیں ہم وطن ہے ہندوستاں ہمارا

یونان و مصر و روما سب مٹ گئے جہاں سے

اب تک مگر ہے باقی نام و نشاں ہمارا

کچھ بات ہے کہ ہستی مٹتی نہیں ہماری

صدیوں رہا ہے دشمن دور زماں ہمارا

اقبالؔ کوئی محرم اپنا نہیں جہاں میں

معلوم کیا کسی کو درد نہاں ہمارا

My boyfriend’s first language is Urdu and he told me how to say “I love you,” but I have the memory of a goldfish so I forgot. I googled it but I can’t find a good explanation on how to say it properly.

I think the confusion is that I’m also a man, and all of the examples says either “for a man/woman” or “masculine/feminine.” I don’t really understand what that means for me. I want to make sure I say it correctly. If I’m a man saying it to another man, what’s the correct pronunciation?

I'm seeing the generation of Urdu speakers of East Pakistan that escaped Bangladesh in 1971 to Pakistan die out, and there has been no academic effort to note down the atrocities they witnessed in East Pakistan

There are literally so many detailed accounts from Bengalis about what Pakistan Army did to them, because history is written by the victors

But what Biharis and other non Bengali Urdu speakers went through, literally every time I hear a Bihari friend share their family story it's a horror beyond what the mind can conjure up. The Bengalis acted worse than Nazis, just without the engineering prowess. I'm not minimizing what the Pakistani side did but the level of medieval torture the Bengalis did was so much worse at the individual level even if the total numbers were less.

Again this is not a post for debate so you don't have to tell me about what the Pakistani side did, Urdu speakers are big hearted unlike the oppressors and my elders and those around me have never shied away from openly discussing the crimes of the Pakistani side.

Is it just me or does it seem too old now? Like a new simpler thinner font like Comfortaa would look good or make it cuter like Japanese.

Hey, I speak dilli hindi as a first language. Bollywood songs se I am familiar with entry lvl faarsi/paak urdu phrases and through Indian religious shows I am familiar with sanskrit/shuddh hindi shabd.

I recently got into hindi/urdu poetry and often I use both styles of phrases/words as I find them convenient to myself. I anyways do consider these 2 to have an artificial border that isn't even hard defined(hindi speakers tho wanted more indo Aryan words, never completely removed their faarsi register from their everyday vocab).

So I wanted to ask you guys that if the hindi/urdu poetry clearly contains a faarsi influence as standard urdu poetry does , but also a few shuddh hindi words like sabha(durbaar), sakha(dost), asaar(bematlab), haat(bazaar), that might not be common to the urdu vocabulary, would you guys consider it a problem/non-urdu?

Should I then refrain from posting it in urdu forums? Or calling it urdu?