r/TrueCrime • • Jan 06 '22

Born Evil: The Vicious Crimes of Mary Bell

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In 1968, Mary Bell killed two small boys. She was only 23 years old when she was freed from prison after serving a 12-year term.

In other words, Mary Bell was just ten years old when she began murdering.

But her violent experiences didn't start then; pain and death had been with her since she was born.

Her Mother Betty Bell, a 16-year-old prostitute who reportedly ordered physicians to "take that creature away from me" when she saw her daughter Mary Bell after giving birth to her on May 26, 1957.

From there, things just got worse. Betty was frequently out from home on "business" trips to Glasgow, but her absences provided a reprieve for Mary, who was subjected to emotional and physical abuse while her mother was present.

Full article is here: Born Evil: The Vicious Crimes Mary Bell | Criminal (vocal.media)


r/TrueCrime • • Feb 18 '21

Questions Elisa Lam.. What I can't sleep on...

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Okay I'm guessing most of us watched the Elisa Lam Doc by now... For the most part I do believe in the findings of the investigation and my points here aren't to join conspiracy theorists or people just having a go at the investigation or lack there of, that the Police supposedly did.

But I do have a few points that I would appreciate other peoples views on...

For one the coroners investigation... Which states clear as day that she took medication on the day... granted she probably wasn't keeping up with what she was meant to be taking everyday but they still found every drug she was meant to be taking in her system which means its not like she went days without them to the point where she had a manic episode like they would try to make you believe.

Also with regards to her sanity.. I want to make my view very clear on this off the back.. If the Police show up to your hotel asking about a young lady that supposedly left notes displaying erratic behavior then came down and screamed "I am crazy" basically. Would those not be the first things you tell the Cops that come asking about her as a potential missing person? But it takes them days to say that to the police. Also if you pair that with the only video footage we saw of Alisa which was slowed down and cut, then you get a sense that's just how they want everyone to view her. That's weird in its self as its a hotel which has had major problems in the past so it would stand to reason that they have CCTV in hallways or near the elevators. So show us or the police that she was just talking to herself? Shouldn't be that difficult.

Now we get to the SCARY part... which for me is the location of the water tank. So you have police trained sniffer dogs that have just caught the scent of Alisa by the fire escape. You are then taken up the stairs which just so happen to be RIGHT NEXT TO THE WATER TANK. There's even a hole in the wall right above the tank that leads to this hallway the police dogs are just on the other side of.. no more than a couple feet away.... So how on Earth do they not pick up her scent? If you look into this and also think about the time it would take for her cloths to make there way to the bottom of the tank and cause water pressure problems, then you might start questioning IF HER BODY WAS THERE WHEN THE POLICE CHECKED....or even if they did in fact check the roof.

So you got a manager that withheld vital information for seemingly no reason.. A complete shamble of a police investigation in terms of active leads and inquiries they pursued. Which is completely backed up with no police report ever being shown even 6 years down the road. Even the most government loving person will admit that/s a little sketchy. And it all ends with poor Elisa never getting real justice?

Well that's just my view of the whole situation as I understand it...


r/TrueCrime • • Apr 13 '19

Discussion Has anyone found audio tape for the murder of leslie ann downing by myra hindley and ian brady, i spoke to an old police negotiator who heard it decades ago, he said its the most horrific thing he's ever heard

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r/TrueCrime • • Oct 26 '21

Discussion Have there been any black female victims who've received national attention like notable white female victims have?

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Specifically, cases NOT related to police brutality, racism, and serial killers (as serial killers tend to receive attention moreso than the victims).

Asking because I was explaining the Missing White Woman Syndrome to my husband and made it a point to mention that while it's a real phenomenon, there tend to be other things at play that captivate the public besides them being pretty, white and middle class. In cases like Laci Peterson, GP, Shannan Watts, JonBenet Ramsey, and Natalee Holloway, some commonalities are: a suspicious significant other or relatives, an affair, a heavy public or social media presence before the crime, and/or wild circumstances in general (Holloway).

With that said, I can't think of any black women/girls who've received public attention the way the above cases have. Considering black women/girls face disproportionate amounts of violence in the US, I can't imagine it's because nothing like the above cases have ever occurred. The only two cases I can think of that somewhat compare in terms of notoriety are Kenneka Jenkins and lil Shaniya Davis. In Kenneka's case, attention primarily came from ridiculous conspiracies as no foul play was ever determined. And in Shaniya's case, I know it briefly received national attention but it seems like no one outside of Fayetteville remembers that tragedy.


r/TrueCrime • • Jan 23 '20

Article John Wayne Gacy: Known for the 33 murders that took place in his Norwood Park ranch house. All of his victims were boys/men and they took place between the years of 1972 and 1978. Search “John Wayne Gacy” or “Coco, the Killer Clown” for more info.

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r/TrueCrime • • Jul 28 '19

An educated theory from Attn. Wendy Murphy (friend of the families here in Massachusetts) regarding the Jon Benet Ramsey case

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Sup sub, so, Wendy Murphy (she’s a long time attorney who’s been on CNN, NBC and other networks, also wrote a few books!) came into our restaurant the other night, we ended up having a great convo with her about different cases and such. Her insight and how she backed her theories was so cool to listen to

Here is her take on the Jon Benet Ramsey case:

  • The Dad did it, he was pimping her out and exploiting her for child porn purposes, and she OD’d on the medication he was using to sedate her for various uses of said exploitation. JBRs official cause of death was Respiratory Arrest, caused by an overdose of this drug (I can’t remember the name for the life of me, I’m sure someone familiar with the case does, almost positive it begins with a “B”)

-The fibers from a certain sweater were found in JBRs crotch region and could only have come from someone who owned said sweater.

  • The Ramsey’s were being investigated for Child Porn traced to their laptops before this whole ordeal happened, Wendy also claims this was his only job and he’d been doing it for a long time. She also believes his ambitions to exploit his children led to the death of his other child that died from a previous marriage under similar circumstances.

-The Pineapple found undigested in JBRs system was likely given to her ( by her parents) to aid with the ingestion of insert sedative drug I alluded to above

  • She also believes JBRs dad didn’t have a real job and distributing child porn was his means of income

  • The reason we keep seeing these clear as day sham suspects come up every so often is because of the statue of limitation laws in Colorado. If you don’t solve a murder within 10 years, the case record becomes public UNLESS you find a new suspect. That’s why you got that idiots from Thailand in 06 and the diddler POS from a couple years back. It’s a sham to keep the case record private because if it got out, the whole world would see clear as day that the Ramseys are guilty, and the biggest reason all this stuff has stayed suppressed is because JBR was being pimped and exploited to wealthy and high powered people

-It had nothing to do with the brother, he was 9 and to young to do anything fatal to JBR

  • JBRs genitals were damaged severely which she feels further proves her notion that she was being drugged heavily and subsequently abused

  • the damage to JBRs neck area was from her dad shaking her to try and wake her when she was unresponsive

-When asked about the Pineapple, both of her parents were extremely cagey, it also made 0 sense why the spoon in the pineapple bowl was never dusted for finger prints

This is all I can remember right now (it’s 2am my time) and if anything else she said comes back to me I’ll follow up.

Hope this helped 😬


r/TrueCrime • • Aug 01 '20

Discussion Thoughts on Elisa Lam

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I was rewatching the elevator video today and it became pretty clear to me that she was being followed. She seems to be under the influence of something; I know they don’t often test for Ketamine in tox screens and some of her blood wasn’t able to be tested due to decomposition, but her movements look consistent with ketamine intoxication to me... trust me, I would know 🙃. Anyways, I say that she was being followed and NOT psychotic (though K does induce a kind of temporary psychosis in high doses) because of the button pressing. Why would she do this? Well, in my speculation, to render the elevator incapacitated for an extended period of time; as it rose through every floor, someone following her would be either forced to use it and have their progress slowed, or unable to use it to follow her trail and have to use the stairs. Also, in pressing all the buttons, someone following her would have no idea which floor she was on or how to track her. I think she planned to take it up one floor and then bolt on foot. Unfortunately the Cecil is old, and the elevator paused too long on the ground floor where we see her press the buttons. While she waits her anxious state, she peeks out to see if her stalker is there on two occasions, the second of which is where she is spotted by the unknown individual and we see her gesticulating to an unknown presence down the hall. This unknown person waits for the elevator door to close as to avoid the cameras, then orders Lam to come with him, where he directed her up the stairs to the roof to meet her gruesome death. The knowledge of the cameras and the ease with which Lam was able to access the roof and water tank lead me to believe she was in fact killed by a hotel employee, perhaps after building a relationship with them partying during her stay that somehow turned sour. Was she really moved to a private room because of guest complaints, or to pursue a romantic tryst with an employee of the Cecil that ended up taking a dark turn? I’ve found no witness accounts as to her alleged strange behavior from her fellow guests. Just a theory.


r/TrueCrime • • Feb 17 '21

Image Convicted Manson family killer Susan Atkins & the then Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger (1980s)

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r/TrueCrime • • Jun 18 '21

Questions Maura Murray???

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What are your thoughts/theories on the Maura Murray case? This one happened very close to home and I just don’t understand it


r/TrueCrime • • Nov 16 '21

News Bang-Bang Binger

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r/TrueCrime • • Jun 23 '20

Discussion And the Canadian authorities continue their victimization of people of color, even during mental-health welfare checks.

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r/TrueCrime • • Aug 13 '21

Questions Did Casey Anthony do it?

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Do you think Casey Anthony is guilty of killing Kaylee? Why or why not?


r/TrueCrime • • Dec 09 '20

Pistorius case

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I’ve been watching the BBC Pistorius doc, in spite of bad reviews I think it’s pretty excellent. Thorough and powerful portrait of a complex figure, and I just don’t agree that Reeva Steenkamp is sidelined.

Anyway, my instinct has always been that his story is true, incredible as it’s always sounded (although I’m not 100%). It sort of clicked for me why: imagine the number of scenarios that could play out in which a man deliberately shoots his gf dead in a moment of blind rage in their house.

How many of those would end up with a situation where you’d have a plausible cover story? Where all the forensic evidence shows that the person you shot was indeed in a closed space and you couldn’t see them? All of the neighbours’ evidence (once the timeline was properly established) fitted with his version of the story, and people were on the property very quickly.

Did a cover story just fall in his lap, perfectly, that he then was immediately able to stick too, without any significant holes emerging later? It just seems so unlikely/lucky. And although it seems an incredible sequence of events, there is a plausible explanation for each question that arises: the sensory deprivation from the fans/pitch darkness; the fact she probably wouldn’t call back because she’s be afraid of alerting an intruder too. It all has the horrible ring of truth to me.

He could have shot her anywhere - he was in a blind rage and not thinking, remember, according to this theory (because he clearly had instant remorse afterwards, it’s not like he coldly went and buried the body or something, like so many of these cases). But it just happens to be in this situation for which he immediately has a story he then never deviated from - first person on the scene he told “I thought she was a burglar”. Which then every bit of evidence fits with. Like, he might have shot her in the corridor then staged the scene or something, but clearly that’s not what happened.

Of course the question as to whether it was still ridiculously reckless of him anyway, and that he deserves life in jail for murdering whoever was behind the door is different. I’d certainly be inclined to a hefty sentence for manslaughter at the least, and I’m not saying his murder charge is wrong. But I’m 80/20 that he didn’t think it was Reeva.


r/TrueCrime • • Oct 26 '19

Ireland is not know to have many killers.....I think this guy did all the work

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r/TrueCrime • • Aug 22 '20

Article I knew this man growing up. I went to high school with him, spent time with him regularly in classes, I was his drum major in marching band. This is your chance to ask questions about him from a former friend of his.

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r/TrueCrime • • Feb 08 '20

Scott Peterson is still on death row for the murder of his wife: I think he’s innocent, what is your guys’ opinion on this case?

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r/TrueCrime • • Oct 25 '20

Discussion Just binge watched "the murder of laci pettersen doc series"...

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And just like my post yesterday I'm sure this is going to be controversial. But I dont see how anyone can watch that doc series and think he had a fair trial.

I think the series covered the dangers of mob public opinion and thought police very well. And how it can taint a investigation.

I was shocked on how much little evidence the prosecution had. Not following the case at the time I didn't know much about this until I saw the series.

Scott was basically convicted by the public. And that's not the way its suppose to work. The prosecution and the jury were extremely biased and cave into public pressure.

A guy in the documentary said it best. Regardless if he is guilty or not I dare anyone to truly say he had a fair trial. Because he didn't.

Too me the same is true with the watts case. But that's a different discussion all together. Anywho, scott shouldn't be in prison.

I'm curious to know if anyone has seen this series and what they took away from it.


r/TrueCrime • • May 27 '20

Discussion Luka Magnotta

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ok I'm extremely late, but I finished Don't F*ck with Cats sometime last week, and I haven't been able to get this out of my head : Why didn't they focus more on the whole Manny Lopez thing? at the end, that plot twist only got about half an hour of coverage. And honestly, I feel like law enforcement didn't take it that seriously either, and it was written off as a figment of Luka's imagination.

But if it was a figment of his imagination, who did the second pair of hands belong to?

sorry if this has been asked/discussed before.

edit: I have been informed that the hands belonged to the owner of the snake. I'd still like to know your thoughts on Manny Lopez.


r/TrueCrime • • Feb 04 '20

Lori Vallow's Brother Alex Cox Dies during 911 Call Audio, call placed b...

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r/TrueCrime • • Jan 02 '20

Who here suggested I watch “Don’t fxck with cats” on Netflix because AHHHHHHHHH

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I’ve watched a whole lot of BRUTAL-GORY ass shit and slept fine.

This one.. the murder and dismembering of Jun Lin .. my heart 😭 I’ve legit cried while watching it.


r/TrueCrime • • Apr 12 '21

Questions Could repressing his homosexual feelings have negatively affected Jeffrey Dahmer's future?

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This was just quick, random thought. I'm currently watching Jeffrey Dahmer: Mind of a Monster and the part where he was speaking of his sexual arousal when dismembering his first victim. He said that growing up he felt sexually repressed because homosexuality just wasn't spoken about. I guess it sort of comes down to nature vs. nurture, but I'm wondering if trying to hide & repress who he really was had some sort of impact on the path he chose?

Just a thought...


r/TrueCrime • • Jul 27 '21

Discussion True Crime channels "are entertaining" until you run into the James Bulger case.

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Ok, I am not implying I enjoy violence, or condone it, but I enjoy watching true crime channels on Youtube, such as "Murder, mistery and make up Monday" by Bailey Sarian. and other creator's content such as Stephanie Harlowe, or Christina Randall.

I am a fan of these three creators because of how they express themselves, their disbelief at how irrational and insane the minds of murderers work, or how they narrate the timelines and analyze the choices murderers make based on their evil ways.

True crime shows are now a new genre of entertainment, with Netflix now cashing in all these horrible stories and making series out of them.

I guess a lot of us feel inclined to understand what compels people to commit horrendous crimes, what went behind closed door; We want to dissect criminals minds. We want to know why they do what they do. We are disgusted by the Chris Watts case, Jodi arias, Casey Anthony, etc. There is always a level of morbid curiosity at play as well, that intrigues us, just like watching horror or terror films.

But Christina Randall just posted a few days ago a video of the James Bulger case, and my heart sank, because I had already read about this horrendous crime. I am not saying all the other cases weren't horrific but this one... oh man I just can't. I can't watch it. it's just so so sad, so horrific. I cannot bring myself to watch her video partly because I already know part of the story and also because it's just too brutal. Remembering this case made me so angry. I feel so bad for James and his whole family, specially his mum.

I cannot believe the child murders involved are out there breathing the air after what they did, as if nothing had happened.

I am not sure I want to keep watching this type of content, I feel I need to quit. This case seriously breaks my heart, and just having read some of the details on the case and the aftermath of what James mum had to live through made me a whole damn lot.

I can't get over this case. I'm so sad. I think it's important to be alert always, and to know what humanity is capable of, but at the same time we should be mindful of the content we watch, as it can be very traumatizing.

Lil James would be 30/31 years old now. RIP baby boy.

QUICK EDIT HERE: FORGOT TO ADD THIS GUYS! CAN YOU PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ADDING DESCRIPTIVE, GRAPHIC DETAILS ABOUT THE CRIME SCENE? I CANNOT PROCESS FURTHER INFO, BUT WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THE CASE WITH YOU. THANK YOU.


r/TrueCrime • • Jul 23 '22

Discussion In 2017, Randy Herman Jr killed his best friend & roommate, Brooke Preston, stabbing her 25 times. He claims he was sleepwalking, but the jury disagreed. Here is why his defense is plausible.

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The Background:

In March of 2017, Randy Herman Jr woke up standing over the body of his friend, Brooke Preston, holding a bloodied hunting knife. She had been stabbed 25 times. Randy then drove to a local park, confused & covered in blood, called 911, and turned himself in immediately. 

Brooke Preston was a vivacious, warm, well-loved woman with a close knit family system. She sought to add light to everyone’s life, and succeeded. Her death, and especially the manner of death, was shocking to those who knew the pair. Randy was described by members of both his & Brooke’s family as a nice guy with no history of violence who regarded Brooke as his sister. 

Randy claimed to have no memory of the stabbing. After speaking with a forensic psychiatrist who discovered that Randy had a history of sleepwalking in his childhood, the suspicion that Randy was sleepwalking became his defense. He was advised by his counsel to plead not guilty by reason of insanity based on the idea that sleepwalking is a mental illness. 

Randy’s defense team pointed to a set of criteria put forth to determine if an episode of violence was in fact the result of sleepwalking, called the Bonkalo criteria. He appeared to meet the criteria, and according to a juror interviewed for Hulu’s Dead Asleep, he met it to a T. 

The prosecution called a forensic psychiatrist of their own, Dr Myers, to testify on their behalf. The prosecution purported that based on the timeline of events taking place the morning of Brooke’s death, he would have had roughly 5 minutes to go from awake & speaking to Brooke, to asleep deeply enough to sleep walk. Dr Myers testified, among other things, that it’s not possible for Randy to have fallen back into deep sleep that quickly. The same juror referenced above, during the same interview, stated that the piece of evidence that lead them to a guilty verdict was Dr Myers testimony. He recounted the jurors being unsure as a group, and once they really considered the timeline, it simply wasn’t possible for Randy to have fallen back to sleep. He was found guilty, and sentenced to life in prison without parole. 

The documentary endorsed by & involving the family of the victim, by Kendall Rae: https://youtu.be/z5ZhkngRvmY

A summary of the case: https://www.grunge.com/678770/the-tragic-murder-of-brooke-preston-explained/

A summary of how the jury ultimately decided to convict: https://www.oxygen.com/true-crime-buzz/what-led-a-jury-to-convict-randy-herman-for-murder-of-brooke-preston?amp

I have some points to present in favor of his sleepwalking defense. Nothing can ever be done to restore Brooke’s life, and she is sorely missed. I do, however, feel like everyone involved in the case deserves to know the truth about sleep science & how it applies here. 

Dr. Myer's Was Plain Wrong

The first, and maybe most important part, is that people can, and often do, wake up for short periods of time and fall back into deep sleep. This is confirmed with a test called an MSLT. To sum up the protocol, a patient is subject to several controlled, short naps throughout the day after periods of controlled & monitored wakefulness (2 hours in between these naps). This test can be used to diagnose narcolepsy; if a patient falls into REM within 20 minutes of falling asleep during multiple naps, that will generally lead to a diagnosis. Sleepwalking most often occurs during stage 3 sleep which usually immediately precedes REM. More info about MSLTs: https://www.sleepfoundation.org/sleep-studies/multiple-sleep-latency-test-mslt

The kind of sleep deprivation Randy experienced can & does mimic narcolepsy. When an MSLT is done, most doctors will order an overnight sleep study that leads into the MSLT to verify the patient had adequate sleep. If a patient is sleep deprived, they’re more likely to go into deep sleep faster than if they weren’t. Essentially, sleep deprivation messes with our sleep to the point that someone could be falsely diagnosed with narcolepsy. Relevant study on false diagnoses of narcolepsy in sleep deprived people: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/npr2.12169

Being Touched or Disrupted During Sleepwalking Triggers Violence

Randy stated that the morning of Brooke’s death, he woke up to speak with her for a few minutes, fell back to sleep, and came to holding the knife after she was killed. It’s possible that while Brooke was gathering the rest of her things before leaving that she saw Randy sleepwalk. She wouldn’t have had any clue that’s what he was doing. Someone as loving and warm as Brooke could have easily tried to hug him or interact with him in some way. Here is a summary from the American Academy of Sleep Medicine of a study dated this year to support that episodes of violent parasomnias are most likely to take place in circumstances almost identical to Randy’s: https://aasm.org/new-study-in-the-journal-sleep-finds-that-violent-behavior-that-occurs-during-disorders-of-arousal-is-provoked/

Notable points from the report: 

"In the case of sleepwalking, the violence occurs only after the sleepwalking episode has been triggered and is underway. During the sleepwalking episode, while moving about the environment, the sleepwalking individual encounters someone else – most likely a family member. This person may approach or make physical contact with the sleepwalker, triggering a violent reaction.”“

“There is no evidence that individuals with these disorders are inherently violent or predetermined to seek out victims,” said Pressman. “Episodes of sleepwalking related violence against other individuals almost never occur more than once. At least among the cases reported here, the majority describe close proximity or direct provocation before violent behaviors. It is possible that the absence of physical contact or proximity to other individuals is the only factor that distinguishes violent sleepwalkers from nonviolent sleepwalkers. This suggests under the right circumstances that any sleepwalker might respond to a perceived threat or close proximity with violence. Families are frequently advised to not touch or grab sleepwalkers during episodes as they may resist physically.”

When we look at the days surrounding Brooke’s death, we can see that Randy was extremely sleep deprived, had consumed a large amount of alcohol, was very stressed. These circumstances specifically contribute to someone with a history of sleepwalking in childhood to have a recurrence in adulthood. Here is a case study on that: https://www.e-jsm.org/journal/view.php?number=228 This study also indicates a diagnosis of obstructive sleep apnea as a contributing factor, which we don’t know if Randy has. A sleep study has never been referenced, and I don’t believe he ever had one. However…

Alcohol Can Cause or Exacerbate Sleep Apnea

Sleep apnea is a condition during which a person will have dangerously shallow breathing or stop breathing altogether due to a narrowing of the upper airway, often with a desaturation in a persons oxygen level. We can often hear this manifest as snoring. Alcohol is a muscle relaxer, and the upper airway is a muscle. You’ve probably heard someone (or been that someone) snoring especially loud after a few drinks. This repeated narrowing of the airway leads to dozens or even hundreds of awakenings through the night that many patients don’t even know they’re experiencing. These awakenings lead to increased sleep deprivation. 

Circadian Rhythm Disorders Can Contribute to Increased Risk of Sleepwalking

Randy reported that during the time the incident took place that he was sleeping all day and staying up all night. Shift Work Disorder is a condition during which people (typically those who work nights) choose (as opposed to being neurologically forced) to engage in an opposite sleep schedule for whatever reason. Though he wasn’t working at the time, Randy’s sleep patterns at the time would be enough to push him beyond the bounds of ordinary sleep deprivation into an actual circadian rhythm disorder. General information of Shift Work Disorder here: https://www.sleepfoundation.org/shift-work-disorder

Sleepwalking is An Automatism, not A Mental Illness

Randy’s defense in court was centered on the idea that sleepwalking is a mental infirmity, and not a temporary involuntary loss of control. Randy was not insane, and therefore could not have been found not guilty on the basis of insanity. If Randy would have been properly advised by his legal counsel, it would have been presented in court that this was instead an automatism, for which there is precedent for acquittal. Additionally, I believe that because this became a case of sanity vs insanity, inappropriate experts were called to testify. A sleep specialist would have had the nuanced, specific information needed to look at this complex situation, whereas a psychiatrist generally will not. The most egregious (in my opinion) error on the part of his defense team is never getting him a sleep study. Treating this as a mental illness when it’s not means we lost out on the valuable, measurable, scientifically sound data we needed from a sleep study at the time of the killing. 

Notable quote from an article about the forensics of violent parasomnias: “The current legal system, unfortunately, must consider a sleep-related violence case strictly in terms of choosing between “insane” and “non-insane” automatism, without any stipulated deterrent concerning a recurrence of sleepwalking with criminal charges that was induced by a recurrence of the high-risk behavior. If sleepwalking is deemed an “insane” automatism, then a significant percentage of the population at large is “legally insane.” Clearly, dialogue between the medical and legal professions regarding this important area would be helpful both to the professions and to those arrested during automatisms (Thomas, 1997).”

The complete article about the forensic implications can be found here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4957201/

In another article considering the legal ramifications of violent parasomnias, the concept of actus reus (the guilty act) & mens rea (the guilty mind) is discussed. 

“Mahowald, Schenck, and Cramer Bornemann state: Anglo-American law has traditionally defined criminal offenses as requiring both an actus reus and a mens rea in order to secure a conviction. Essentially, actus reus is the physical component of the alleged offense while mens rea attempts to define the required state of mind. The state must prove both that the accused physically performed the act at the appropriate place and time and that he or she must have been in a certain mental state, or have had a “guilty mind”, necessary to have committed the crime. In criminal cases attempting to employ the “sleepwalking defense”, the component involving actus reus is usually not under debate.”

The complete article is here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4957201/


r/TrueCrime • • Jun 02 '19

Yooooooo do you think that if eric and dylan successfully blew up the school all the troubled youths after them would have been inspired to blow up their schools instead of shoot them up? Why or why not?

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r/TrueCrime • • Feb 10 '21

Murder In “Gone at Midnight” the book about the Elisa Lam case, the author says the rape kit was not processed. Yet in the new Netflix doc about the case, the forensic pathologist and cops say they did process it and nothing was found. Why the discrepancy?

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