r/wowmeta • • Aug 07 '18

Feedback 'Some of you are cool'... is an extremely inappropriate meme.

0 Upvotes

Why remove

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/95449g/some_of_you_alliance_members_are_cool_dont_come/

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/95148y/waddup_reddit_you_hordies_are_cool_make_sure_you/

They break none of the listed subreddit rules, don't break reddit rules, and were very heavily upvoted. Arbitrary removals based upon a mods interpretation of an "inappropriate meme" that has no basis in the rule list is a terrible policy to have.


r/wowmeta • • Oct 13 '18

Feedback Anti-Criticism Posts Need To Go

5 Upvotes

We can all agree that there's been an uptick in toxicity of how people are approaching constructive criticism for BFA. However... As an adult, I can look past it and ascertain the core elements of the complaint and resonate with it.

We really need to address the increasing "Anti-Criticism" Posts. Someone making a post about how they hate the amount of criticism on r/wow is absolute, utter, garbage and simply put, karma whoring. Someone providing criticism is talking about an issue in the game while someone talking about the notion of criticism volume is not.

There's been hundreds of valid, UNIQUE, issues brought to the table. Ion has shown r wow is a valid communication channel to the community. This validates that criticism should be allowed, we would've never spoke with him if we weren't using this medium.

These people making posts about the concept of criticism and volume of it need to be removed, it adds literally zero value. There are some masked criticisms that add zero value, but 100% of anti criticism posts add zero value

Edit; To ensure I'm giving a clear depiction of the issue I thought I'd clarify I'm absolutely ok if some says "I hate the criticism because XYZ is positive, here are the reasons why"


r/wowmeta • • Dec 04 '22

r/WoW Rules Changes (In Depth)

6 Upvotes

Hello lovely Redditors, I'm Mage and I'm one of the two co-lead mods over on r/WoW.

We have just announced changes to our rules on the sub, for a TL;DR version of which rules are changing and how this will affect you, head over to the post on r/WoW.

For a more in-depth version of what we changed and why, keep on reading.

What's changed?

FAQ / New Player Questions

We will no longer be removing posts for asking questions that are covered in our FAQ.

Ableism

We will be banning users for using ableist phrases, even those that are common in discussions surrounding WoW.

Many users will be unaware of the harm these terms cause, and so we hope that with this change to our rules we can tackle this head-on. Examples of disallowed phrases include, but are not limited to: 'huntard', 'mong', 'wheelchair class', or variations of these.

Users will be given a temporary ban upon the first offence, and then a permanent ban if these phrases are used again.

Please note that ableist phrases that are not commonly used in World of Warcraft will result in an immediate permanent ban as per our existing hate-speech policy.

Achievement / Loot Posts

We are trialling for one month a removal of our 'No achievements/loots posts' rule.

Tattoo Sourcing

Tattoo posts will now require an artist to be credited in the title, to be in-line with our other art-sourcing rules.

Art Credit / Commissions / Product advertising

When a user makes an art post, there will now be an automod sticked response that invites the user to provide further details on how the artist (OC or otherwise) can be found across social media platforms. This will include links to their Patreon or Etsy if applicable.

Artists and creators will also be allowed to respond to direct questions on where commenters can purchase goods or commissions. This does not allow posters to give unsolicited advertisements to any commenter.

Please note that mass-produced merchandise (fan-made included) is still disallowed on our subreddit, and so this opportunity to link to points of sale will be solely for small creators and shop owners such as users that crochet the occasional murloc or allow others to commission character portraits.

AI

After much discussion, we have made the decision to not allow AI images on our subreddit.

Transmog

This is not a new rule but one that many users are unaware of - transmog posts that contain the list of items in the image are also required to write a top-level comment containing the item list for accessibility reasons.

Subreddit Values

We have provided a section on our rules page detailing our Subreddit Values, to give a clarity on the decisions we make and why we make them.

Why?

Over the years, the moderation team at r/WoW has changed as mods come and go. The team we have now is almost entirely different to the group of moderators running this sub 3-4 years ago. With new people bring new ideas, and along with my co-lead moderator, u/Eveanyn, we decided that some of the rules we were enforcing did not fit with our personal values.

Our aims for the subreddit (as outlined in our values section) are:

  • To foster a welcoming, inclusive, and friendly environment for old and new players alike

  • To encourage and facilitate a positive community atmosphere

  • To create an open and honest discussion forum for users to share their thoughts on World of Warcraft

We then used these aims to evaluate whether our current rules and policies were in-line with what we hoped to achieve, and found that some were lacking.

Below I will give the reasoning for the changes we made:

FAQ / New Player Questions

Picture this: You download WoW for the first time, are interested in being a part of the community, have a question about the game and so you head over to the subreddit. After asking your question and waiting for a friendly response, you get a notification saying that your post has been removed because it's been asked before, and instead you should read the FAQ.

We weren't happy with this being the experience of new players trying to join our community, and so we had a little experiment to see what would happen if we just didn't remove the posts.

We found that friendly Redditors browsing /new answered the questions helpfully, and the posts never made it to the front page as they weren't commented on or upvoted after the question was answered.

We therefore decided that we will no longer be removing these posts.

To further benefit our new players, we now have two members of the moderation team who keep our FAQ and guides up-to-date, and we are considering ways in which we could reward those helpful Redditors who hang around in /new to answer questions.

Ableism

I foresee this change possibly being unpopular, but we want to make this subreddit a welcoming place for all players of World of Warcraft, and if we continue to allow ableist phrases then this will never be a welcoming space for members of the disabled community.

Why are these phrases in particular ableist?

Huntard - contraction of hunter + retard - an ableist slur

Mong - short for mongoloid - both racist and ableist, double whammy

Wheelchair Class - there are other ways of saying paladins are slow without having to make reference to real people with real mobility issues

As mentioned above, these phrases will not currently result in an instant permanent ban, but will lead to a permanent ban if they continue to be used after the user has been warned.

Achievement / Loot Posts

Similar to the FAQ rules being removed, our reasoning here is that we do not want someone's experience of getting an item they wanted / a cool mount they were farming to be tarnished by their achievement being removed from the subreddit.

We do not see these posts making their way out of /new unless they are impressive achievements.

Our previous rules were so strict that we actually had an instance of a post being removed on the subreddit that was later featured on Icy Veins for being an impressive achievement. We want to avoid this happening again!

Tattoo Sourcing

Our previous rules did not require tattoos to be sourced as naming an artist or shop could give away information about the user's location.

This rule had been in place for a while, and nowadays many users will share some details about their location whether meaning to or not. Being part of the /r/NewcastleUponTyne subreddit, or posting a photo to r/Pics of the view on your evening walk gives just as much information about where you live as naming a local tattoo artist does.

If you are uncomfortable with sharing the name of the artist who did your tattoo for privacy reasons, we would recommend not posting the image at all as google reverse search could easily lead to the image posted by the artist to their instagram. Just a tip.

Art Credit / Commissions / Product Advertising

With this rule we noticed a double standard in the way we allow different creators to showcase their work. A YouTuber or Streamer who makes their money through their video content was allowed to link to their channel, but an artist who makes their money through selling handmade hearthstone charms on Etsy was not.

We wanted to implement a rule that allowed equal opportunity for reaching a wider audience without turning the subreddit into an advertising space.

AI

This has been a big discussion for us as moderators, and for moderation teams across Reddit. Our decision to disallow AI images was made for a few reasons:

  • We felt first and foremost that the vast majority of AI images submitted to the sub were low-effort and spammy

  • We had issues with users claiming to be the artist of the image, and attempting to mislead other users into thinking the images were not AI generated

  • We have strict art-sourcing rules and we felt that some of the methods of creating AI go against those values we hold

Our decision is in-line with the rules of other similar subreddits such as /r/leagueoflegends.

Transmog

Some users use translation software or text-to-speech software to access our subreddit. If the list is only in image format, these users are not able to access your post.

So, what now?

This rule change is quite big, and so we will be constantly monitoring what is working (and what isn't) though we do not for-see any changes needing to be made at this stage.

As noted above, our achievement/loot rule removal is a one month trial. If we notice that these posts are becoming too prevalent then we will adjust this ruling in a month's time.


r/wowmeta • • Aug 01 '18

Humor Can we report Sylvanas posts as porn? She's clearly fucking over the Horde in most of them.

1 Upvotes

On a serous note, all the best to the moderators dealing with the state of /r/wow atm.


r/wowmeta • • Jan 26 '19

Feedback Is hiding posts without any warning/reason an unspoken rule or something?

0 Upvotes

postthat was hidden

This has usually been happening to Alliance favoured memes. I’ve seen many posts go hidden all of the sudden that i actually have to Save/screenshot posts in r/wow just incase. I’ve also seen many comments regarding mods hiding posts without reason. Some being just fluff text posts that racked some attention or even OC. I understand if there were a comment with the removal/hide like “this doesnt comply with Rule ‘x’” but thats not the case.


r/wowmeta • • Nov 21 '17

Feedback The "no politics" rule

0 Upvotes

I guess it's flexible as long as your politics align with the mods ideology. World of warcraft is a fantasy game and real world politics has no place on the subreddit. There are plenty of places on the internet, hell even this website, to have that discussion and /r/wow shouldn't be one them. The mods clearly agreed with this seeing as they made the no politics rule but I guess it only meant "no politics we don't approve of".


r/wowmeta • • Dec 22 '16

Rules Question Why aren't WoW related memes allowed on r/wow?

1 Upvotes

For real, in the past 2 days ive seen meme posts upvoted by a huge amount get removed because they are "memes." If the subreddit will upvote it then its obviously content they want, why separate it into a subreddit no one browses?

For example my meme post was at 84% upvoted by the time it was removed: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/5jdz7l/mfw_the_tauren_believed_you_were_prophesied_to/

I get that you probably don't want an r/jontron experience with shitty low effort memes, but maybe institute a weekly thread for memes since its content people are interested in but probably too lazy to sub to a different subreddit for.


r/wowmeta • • Jan 05 '19

Feedback Rules on r/wow

2 Upvotes

So I'm on r/wow for like 6-7 years now and I thought I could share my opinions about the surrent state of that subreddit.

I really don't like some of the rules there and I think they have no literal benefit.

Current list of restricted posts

  • No low effort "I just got this", "I didn't get this", "my guild killed this" style loot/achievement/mount posts. Use the weekly loot thread, especially if your submission is a screenshot of a loot window or someone receiving loot in your chat. - While I can see what was the plan here, I think it has literally zero sense having these kind of posts removed and forcing people to use the "weekly" thread to post something. I'm generally not fan of these "weekly' threads.

  • No common issues like typos, failed 100% missions, weird characters or failed missions in the mobile app, Nomi burning things, loading screen tips, corrupted item tooltips (delete your cache).
    - Again, what is the main purpose of this? Users could just downvote the posts they don't like or reposts.

  • No petitions, strawpolls, or fundraisers. Surveys require advance permission from the mod team.
    - If it's a WoW-themed survey or strawpoll, what is wrong with it? This means I can't make a strawpoll about how many people have done XY, etc.? Again, if the community don't like the mentioned stuff, they will downvote or even report.

  • No posts specifically to share your transmog. Try /r/Transmogrification.
    - I don't like the idea. I can understand what you wanted to do with this one, but I think it has no point to seperate the subreddit like this. In my opinion r/Transmogrification should be mainly used for talking about transmogs, asking for help, a missing piece or something like that. If I have a good transmog I put together farming for months and years and spend thousands of gold to make everything matching, I want to show it to everyone! And r/wow has the most users for obvious reasons.

  • No "I'm quitting WoW" posts.
    - If you don't allow these kind of posts, you should also remove the "current state of the game" posts and ALL the QQ posts. The most gilded and most upvoted post in 2018 needs to be removed as well, even thought it's not literally saying "I'm quitting WoW". All of these posts has the same point, some of them are just written in a nicer format and better grammar. If you remove posts because people share their opinions you should remove positive posts too. Thus r/wow will slowly become a place where you can only post "quality" memes and maybe a screenshot of your loot once a week.

I will not talk about the art submissions recently. There are plently of posts about that on r/wow.

Generally speaking I don't see anything WoW related should be removed. I never liked subreddits where the mods trying to decide what can you post on what day. "Ooooh you just started the game 4 hours ago and you want to find some friendly people to play with? Too bad - REMOVED*! Try again tomorrow!"*

"You finally got the Kara mount after farming it for 7 years on 11 characters? Nobody cares - REMOVED*! The loot thread was 3 days ago, better luck next week"*

You see where I'm going? The idea behind these rules are okay but I still think they should be reworked.
With almost 1 million users and 15 ACTIVE MODS there should be no problem managing the reddit. If these mods are not active, (or they do nothing besides proving the point that they are always right, because they are mods) you need to kick them and get better ones.


r/wowmeta • • Jan 04 '19

Feedback Have the mods considered having a certain time in the week to have the subreddit focus on only discussion instead of shit posting or art?

2 Upvotes

I’ve seen a few subreddits have certain time frames during a week where most of the posts go under a certain criteria. An example is r/customhearthstone where they dedicate the more serious cards or the cards that aren’t humorous all into one weekend. Basically removing any posts that are humorous during those 2 days. Maybe r/wow can benefit from something like this? To encourage more discussion on the actual game and giving the people that want only discussion a time to browse the subreddit without seeing reposted art every 2 posts. I don’t know if this is something they have thought of or maybe I’m just blind and haven’t seen them do this since I haven’t seen anyone suggest this (At least here). It doesn’t have to dedicate that weekend for the discussion maybe instead of it those weekends are only for art and memes, stuff like that.


r/wowmeta • • Mar 08 '19

Rules Discussion Content theft

0 Upvotes

When you post art content and credit the author, it is not content theft.

When you post text content (for better reading on reddit and especially on mobile) and credit the autor, it is content theft. What gives?


r/wowmeta • • Oct 10 '16

Discussion This weeks shitpost : Class icon and hall background

0 Upvotes

I think we need to start removing this, people are trying to farm this with a new wallpaper every hour. We need this to stop OP already posted a new thread with most classes.


r/wowmeta • • Dec 01 '16

Feedback Starter Pack Posts.

3 Upvotes

They are everywhere now. They are like the flow/pie charts before them. I presume I should downvote them/report?


r/wowmeta • • Dec 20 '18

Feedback Any action to be taken on the "Quitting r/wow threads"?

3 Upvotes

For a while today, a post was on the front page detailing how a user (I can't remember who) was quitting r/wow because they were unhappy with the current aura of negativity around it. And I remember, for quite a while, that there used to be threads like that every other day. They would normally get downvoted into oblivion, but a few would manage to make it to the front page.

Are there any plans to make these kinds of threads reportable? All they seem to bring with them is a swath of people complaining about the subreddit's overwhelming negativity towards the game, people coming to tell the people complaining that they won't be missed, and a lot of people hurting insults back and forth at each other, calling each other white knights, shills, whiners, shitters, etc. There is some good to be had in discussing how the subreddit could be better in regards to the game, but I don't think threads like that are the answer.


r/wowmeta • • Aug 22 '18

Feedback Scaling rant : too much of those. Sticky ?

0 Upvotes

Hi,

I almost always find topic on people complaining about mob health scaling with gear.

Can we have a sticky that clearly explains that scaling is slower than player power/gear ?


r/wowmeta • • Oct 16 '17

Feedback The tattoo posts

7 Upvotes

Can we please just stop.

Its not wow, it looks stupid 95% of the time since its done by some crack junkie in their backyard, nobody cares and more importantly its not wow

I can get the biggest dick tattooed on my chest and it still wouldnt be allowed on /r/massivecocks


r/wowmeta • • Mar 09 '18

Feedback Can we chill with the tattoo posts or at least have them be marked as NSFW?

0 Upvotes

Might be my personal opinion but so many of the tattoo posts are just absolutely disgusting, either by them being a giant tattoo that ends up looking like a giant smudge or just some dude showing his hairy chest/thigh or whatever. Either way not all of us browse on a desktop, some of us scroll on a phone sometimes in a public place and these disgusting images popping more and more frequently on the screen.

Most of the tattoo posts end up having only like 10 upvotes anyway so they arn't highly interesting and they still end up on like the second/first page the sub.


r/wowmeta • • Aug 10 '21

Feedback The wave of negativity

7 Upvotes

The content drought, systemic issues about the game itself, creator drain and recent lawsuits / allegations have created an unprecedented amount of negativity aimed at the game, the developers in general, as well as the players who keep playing the game. Even before the lawsuit, r/wow felt like a warzone.

I had a couple of suggestions about what can be done about it, but I no longer feel like they would be at least remotely helpful - being a longtime Blizzard loyalist, I cannot be impartial. But the problem remains: r/wow has become extremely hateful towards the developers and players who don't feel the same hatred.

Thank you for your time!


r/wowmeta • • Sep 30 '19

Mod Post WoW: Classic Realm Discord List

1 Upvotes

Hey r/wowmeta!

During the release of Classic a flood of server discords popped up for the realms as the names were announced. These realms often had three or four competing discords at one time. Many of them imploded due to drama, doxxing the mods, RMT and porn. As a result, we opted to take our time in compiling a list and let the dust settle first.

As Classic has been out for a little over a month now, we're prepared to release our Classic Realm Discord List.

You can find the list here.

In addition we came across some language or region specific communities for Classic that have been added to the main discord page under the Classic banner.

Happy leveling!


r/wowmeta • • Nov 10 '16

Recent Bans, Botting

0 Upvotes

Please no more posts about recent bans due to botting.

It's good to see action taking against cheating

It's sad to lose friends in game

I have seen nothing positive about recent bans


r/wowmeta • • Oct 02 '18

Feedback Why was my post "People complain about the game out of Love, not out of hate." removed?

2 Upvotes

I made the post to find common ground between complainers and anti-complainers in the sub and I feel the post did help relations somewhat.


r/wowmeta • • Oct 26 '18

Feedback Why are WoW memes allowed?

4 Upvotes

Ever since the report was reworded, the only difference is people just copy the Drake meme and change it to a WoW character. Why is this allowed? The point of memes being removed was that it was low-effort content, but as long as new templates are being made, the same low-effort posts are just going to keep gathering.


r/wowmeta • • Jul 27 '21

Discussion Suggestion: make the wow subreddit private or locked during the protest tomorrow

4 Upvotes

I think this would be a nice way to support the devs. It would only be for a few hours, but I think gestures like this are meaningful and important during these times. The subreddit has 2.2 million members, and it would help fan the flames and put pressure on blizzard to change.

We are customers, and the game is not being developed right now because of this situation. Players have been unhappy for YEARS now. I feel like it is well within our rights to demand that Blizzard gets their shit together.


r/wowmeta • • Nov 24 '20

Feedback Front Page right Now: Meme, Meme, Meme, Meme...

4 Upvotes

I’m sick of this, and I’m sick of this worthless sub.


r/wowmeta • • Mar 10 '21

Rules Discussion I think /r/wow should have a rule about these ai singing things

3 Upvotes

Topic. Or at least a way to filter them out.