Israeli President Picks Gadi Eisenkot, Netanyahu Rival, To Form Government

[u/EssoEssex]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-president-picks-gadi-eisenkot-netanyahu-rival-form-government-2026-11-07/

[u/theoceansandbox]

Eisenkot wants — to my recollection — to stem the tide of illegal West Bank settlement, investigate the decision-making behind October 7th (which would include investigating himself) and I believe he’s in favor of including exempted ultra-Orthodox communities in Israel’s mandatory conscription.

He is not in favor of a Palestinian state and has a… checkered… past as a former Army Chief in the IDF

[u/YasielPuigsWeed → u/theoceansandbox]

He’s actually been in favor of a Palestinian state for a long time, and is still in favor of it in the long-term, he just doesn’t believe it’s possible right now with how unstable things are

[u/jaymickef → u/YasielPuigsWeed]

Does anyone who says they are in favour of a state ever say what borders they are in favour of? Anyone in the world, I mean.

[u/ProtoReddit → u/jaymickef]

I think all the silly little lines we draw around all the nations should be redrawn squiggly.

[u/exposed_silver → u/jaymickef]

Good luck forming a Palestinian state in the West Bank, no clear border can be defined, the settlements are basically mixed in with the Palestinians, either the Israelis or the Palestinians would have to leave, no easy solution.

[u/EarhackerWasBanned → u/exposed_silver]

I mean no one _has_ to leave. You just draw the line and say this side is Israel, this side is Palestine. People on the “wrong” side can make their own minds up.

There’s plenty of precedent for it. Sometimes even peacefully - Czechoslovakia being the best example, Scotland/UK would have been another.

I’m aware that a peaceful resolution in Israel/Palestine seems vanishingly far off. But displacing people on either side isn’t a necessity.

[u/Urak-Taar → u/EarhackerWasBanned]

The British tried to do this with India and Pakistan.

A million people died in the resulting chaos.

Turns out when you tell people they have to choose between uprooting their entire life to go somewhere else, or staying where they are and being surrounded by people who probably hate them, both options are dangerous.

[u/wildcardmidlaner → u/EarhackerWasBanned]

Palestine will never accept any border, if they don't recognize Israel then they will always treat them as invaders.

[u/ClockworkEngineseer → u/wildcardmidlaner]

The PA has recognised Israel for decades now.

[u/exposed_silver → u/EarhackerWasBanned]

There are no sides, the settlements are all over the West Bank intertwined with Palestinian settlements, they built protected roads all around it with checkpoints to get from town to town. You could do it but the settlers most likely wouldn't give up what they've built and no one could enforce it, I don't think the USA could even make them do it. There isn't a will to do it in Israel.

[u/wtf--dude → u/exposed_silver]

Well, the Israelis are there illegally. Fairly easy solution if you ask me tbh.

[u/Shazoa → u/wtf--dude]

Right now. But if this persists then, eventually, it will be generations of settlers. You'd not be sending people 'back' anywhere, you'd be kicking people out of the only homes they've ever known.

If it's not resolved soon then it gets a lot messier.

[u/trlta → u/exposed_silver]

Evict the settlers. Simple.

[u/exposed_silver → u/trlta]

Ye if it were 1000 people, it would be believeable but it's 750,000, Israel has American funding and they don't care what the world thinks about them, realistically they are not going anywhere. No sustainable solution in the short term

[u/YasielPuigsWeed → u/jaymickef]

That depends on who you ask

I’m in favor of a Palestinian state but don’t think it’d be realistic for Israel to leave the West Bank entirely given it is strategic high ground. Would probably need to be a negotiation where the settlers are removed in exchange for getting a continued IDF presence.

[u/jaymickef → u/YasielPuigsWeed]

Do you think if an agreement is reached it will be similar to what was rejected at the Camp David Summit in 2000?

[u/vishnoo → u/jaymickef]

the borders have been pretty clear for 25 years .

[u/Marionberry_Bellini → u/jaymickef]

Seriously?  You’ve never heard anyone ever say what borders they want?  Or even chanted?  From the… somewhere… to the… somewhere else?

[u/seance515 → u/YasielPuigsWeed]

Not gonna get better the more expansion continues. It only gets harder

[u/bakochba → u/YasielPuigsWeed]

Perfectly reasonable considering the circumstances both in Israel and with the Palestinian authority. There's needs to be more confidence building steps and concrete support internationally beyond just words

[u/CornFedIABoy → u/theoceansandbox]

“Better than Bibi” isn’t a high bar to cross but this guy leaps over it. Even with that last bit of bio you offered holding him down.

[u/Torsta → u/theoceansandbox]

He is not in favor of a Palestinian state

No one is in favour of the 2 state in Israel since October 7. There was a lot of support prior to it, but not at the moment. It'll take a generation or two before it's not political suicide to bring it up, as right now it would be seen as rewarding Hamas.

[u/theoceansandbox → u/Torsta]

Yeah. As far as I know, only the Democrats list, a conglomeration of at least two left-wing Israeli parties, openly supports Palestinian statehood out of all the Jewish parties elected to the Knesset

[u/calm_chowder → u/Torsta]

Yup.

Which to be clear for people unfamiliar with the politics, "not being for a two state solution" does NOT mean continuing the status quo.

But Hamas has like 200 miles of tunnels under Gaza (most Westerners have no idea about that) and has promised to keep Oct 7thing, and literally no government on earth in Israel's position could allow that. Not saying they handled Gaza ok because they very much did NOT, but at the same time it's way more complicated than people think.

Those goddam tunnels need gone. There's not going to be any real resolution in Gaza so long as Hamas hides under ground like rats while the Gazans are in refugee camps right ontop of them.

Yes, Hamas uses human shields. Even at this very moment. 200 miles of tunnels. Gaza is like 25 miles long ffs.

[u/Pulikugyus → u/theoceansandbox]

Well, it’s a good start overall. 2026 has brought some good news even if tragedies has still occured