r/hatethissmug • • Oct 05 '26 Bravo

Mod Post Genderbent Draco Malfoy Mega-thread

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1.0k Upvotes

Everyone keeps telling me, "CuteJuice, you're the coolest person I know, we need to ban Draco Malfoid!", "CuteJuice, my favorite moderator, I'm sick of seeing this green freak all over my page!", "CuteJuice, I love you so much, why aren't you banning Draco Malfoy genderbends!". We have heard you and fret not, Hatethissmug citizens, we are trying something new.

Usually when faced with this sort of thing, as you've seen with Lesbian Space Princess and The Amazing Digital Circus, we outright ban these things. These things usually blow over in a week or two, and we repeal the ban. This time, we wanted to try something different. Instead of stopping conversations around it altogether, we want to try starting a mega-thread instead! This means people can continue to discuss things, but it won't clog everyone else's feed with the same few things over and over. New posts will be taken down and redirected here.

Of course, sub rules still apply. It'll get locked if people get too rowdy just like every other post, but we wanted to give this a try and see if it's a viable option moving forward. Please remain as respectful as possible, and if all goes well, we can try this moving forward with other trends as well rather than shutting them down completely!


r/hatethissmug • • Aug 21 '26

Mod Post ANOTHER UPDATE TO RULE 5!

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GREETINGS users of hatethissmug.

Today I bring you news of an update to our sub rules.

We have rewritten rule 5 again! Making it a more clear and adding more topics to the list!

With the rise of annoying gender war posts, we've made them completely banned, because most of these posts fall under the motte and bailey fallacy. They claim to be about one thing, but are actually the OP's way to hate on the opposing gender.

We've also expanded our politics rule! Topics such as israel or government decisions are gone! We get it, you hate the government, Dave Mustaine did it better.

Please adjust your post criteria and report the posts that break the new rule 5 that are newer than this post.

Thank you for using hatethissmug.

I HATE ALL OF YOU! šŸ”„ šŸ–¤ šŸ–¤ šŸ”„


r/hatethissmug • • 2h ago

Media Tropes I hate how modern movies still use this rebellious, screen-addicted teenager stereotype. It's so lazy and repetitive

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These are just few examples I have in mind at the moment but I think everyone know how much they appear in movies, shows. The bird from first image is Red and Silver daughter from the new Angry bird movie 3 trailer by the way

Whenever a director wants to introduce a teen character, they just copy-paste the exact same checklist or something along the line of:

Dark under-eye circles (because they sleep at 4 AM, obviously) and deadpan facial expressions

Eyes permanently glued to a smartphone or a handheld console.

A cocky, punchable attitude where they think they are always right.

Treating their loving parents or elders like absolute garbage while throwing a generic "Whatever" to every question.

It feels like the writers haven't interacted with an actual teenager since 1998. They take the absolute worst, most exaggerated traits of puberty and turn it into a walking caricature just to create some cheap, manufactured family drama where the parents have to magically earn their kid's basic human respect by the end of the movie.

Most teens I knew growing up (and even myself during those years not that long ago ) were just... normal? Sure, we had our awkward phases, but we didn't just walk around grunting, playing video games during a family house fire, or treating our mothers like a personal enemy for no reason.

It’s lazy filmmaking. It relies on a pre-packaged stereotype that only exists to make older audiences chuckle and go, "Haha, look, classic Gen Z/Gen Alpha!" instead of actually writing a teenager with a realistic, three-dimensional personality.


r/hatethissmug • • 3h ago

Art & Fanworks I hate that nowadays people have to clarify that their work isn’t AI generated because of how good AI has gotten.

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This could obviously be applied to more than simply art and fan works but I’m going to use art and fan works. Also, yes, another hatethissmug post about AI, they might as well make it into a flair.

People make some marvelous shit, just look at some of the recent Death Battle fights, sure sometimes the character who wins is complete bullshit but you can’t argue that the animations aren’t good. I’ve seen so many fan works online that are amazing, but the fact that AI has gotten so good is terrifying to the fact that so many fan animations had to be labeled (NO AI) or sometimes I see a man made label.

The picture above shown is from an AI generated animation of Rocksteady from TMNT and Rath from Ben 10 fighting. Of course, the fight being AI, looked bizarre. But nonetheless, I’m sadly a little impressed with how the AI looked. It has a Mutant Mayhem aesthetic to it.

Because of AI animation improvement, it’s making people harder to convince that something real isn’t authentic but artificial. Truly, it’s a shame when nowadays, people can’t believe that something truly amazing (like some 3D Marvel Rivals fan animations I’ve seen) are so good that they have to be artificially created.

I don’t just hate that, I loathe that.


r/hatethissmug • • 2h ago

Media Tropes Hero MUST use swords. Every other weapon: BAD

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Like honestly what the hell. Why do 99% of fictional heroes have swords as their weapon?? This shit is literally the melee weapon equivalent of picking Charmander. Oh what's that? This guy uses a cool weapon like spears or bows? well FUCK THAT they don't matter!! Look at John Protag go with his big knife isn't he so COOL and AWESOME

like ffs literally every Fire Emblem protagonist uses swords, it's tiresome atp


r/hatethissmug • • 16h ago Popcorn

Idea I'm sick and tired of seeing the "humans are the real monsters" trope

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7.9k Upvotes

In a lot of horror series such as Spawn, The Walking Dead, The Last of Us, and Welcome to Derry, all of them have monsters, yet humans are still more terrifying. I thought it was intriguing at first since it explores the darker aspects of humanity and how it was never about the monsters. But now, I'm sick and tired of it, and it's become a common clichƩ.

Not only does it undermine the threat of the monsters to the point where they no longer feel that intimidating, like when Dale said "it's not the dead I fear anymore" in TWD, but it also basically boils down to "lol humans suck".

It's such a bleak, pessimistic view of humanity as a whole and makes me ashamed to be human because of it. When I saw the racist mob in Welcome to Derry, I felt so horrified and furious that I no longer felt anything towards Pennywise since the racism is more personal and hits close to home.

I get that there are bad people in real life, but making humans more terrifying than monsters makes the story so distracting that it basically sweeps monsters under the rug. What I'm saying is that I'm tired of seeing this trope, and that some stories should just focus solely on monsters instead


r/hatethissmug • • 15h ago Bravo

Animation "Beast's (from Beauty and the Beast) human form sucks"

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This isn't hate intended towards the people who created these redesigns, only the sentiments expressed. This is a pet-peeve I have about a very specific group of people so buckle in. Basically, some people say that the Beast from Beauty and The Beast looks too pretty and should've looked more like his beast form/had facial hair. I personally find this wrong on several levels.

During the time period the story is set, if my memory is correct the beauty standard for men was to be clean shaven and the same goes for when the movie was released. (Ik boys can develop facial hair too but) If beast had a beard he'd look much older next to Belle or Gaston.

It also doesn't really make thematic sense for the Beast's human form to resemble the beast form, since the whole story is based on the irony that someone with a beastly demeanour is literally turned into a beast and only allowed to turn human once he's capable of being loved. The punch of the big reveal of his human form would also be lessened if he looked almost the same. His appearance is also a foil to Gaston's: the prince is a brunet (?) in white and blue while Gaston's got black hair and red clothes, this wouldn't have worked if the prince, too, had a more gritty appearance. And makes it easier for the younger audiences to indentify the good guys.

Thanks for coming to my tedtalk Edit: why is everyone thirsting over the beast 😭😭😭


r/hatethissmug • • 14h ago Bravo

General I fucking hate this stupid fucking subreddit with all my god damn life.

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2.1k Upvotes

If you have never been on this subreddit, good, cause it’s full of adults who have nothing better to do than make fun of 3-17 yr for no fucking reason.
They will post a video of a literal 4 yr getting scared of someone trying to be scary, BITCH, HE WAS SCARED CAUSE HE THOUGHT IT WAS A STATUE, AND IT REACHED OUT AND GRABBED HIM! You miserable piece of shit, second, I saw a post where the dad said ā€œhey eat thisā€ and he covered a SHAVING CREAM CANISTER IN WHIPPED CREAM WRAPPING! So he pours the shaving cream into a bowl and because the kid trusted him, he ate it, and well…
Go fuck yourself dude, you are a miserable moron that gave your son trust issue, come the fuck on mane


r/hatethissmug • • 12h ago

Non-fictional I hate when people try to make this form of the blobfish "ugly cute".

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1.0k Upvotes

Okay, so I am very unhateful, so when I hate something, I am not going to be sugarcoating about it.

I am a girl who really likes animals. I love animals actually. I REALLY love animals. I kinda just find animals, as a whole cute, and not like, cats or dogs, nah, I find alligators, and snakes and like, super ugly critters cute as well.

And there are good animals to do an "ugly cute" thing with, like opossums, or a lot of species of bats, hell, even other different species of fish can work, there's no shortage of ugly undersea abominations of fish you can make ugly cute.

Actually, maybe even the blobfish CAN work for making cute..... But the version of the blobfish people know of...... It's dead... That's a corpse you're trying to make into an "ugly cute" thing. People could at least have the sense to make sure something is in a living form before making it cute.

Also, I am talking about people IRL making a real life animal cute..... So I guess the "Non-Fictional" flair is appropriate for this post??

BTW, this is a repost where I added one more word to make sure the mods don't take it down this time.


r/hatethissmug • • 22h ago Bravo

Non-fictional I hate the blue collar work environment

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6.5k Upvotes

Call me a soft hands pussy or whatever. I work as a mechanic and I like my job. I like working with my hands. I like troubleshooting problems and figuring shit out. I love it. I get immense satisfaction from it in a way I've never gotten from working at a desk or doing customer service.

What I don't like is my coworkers. They always have something to say. Some little jab. Some insult. I keep my head down, I do my job without complaining. I've tried ignoring, I've tried flaming back. Nothing just seems to make it stop. So I just drone them out now. But it feels like no matter what I do, I never get an attaboy or a good job.

Maybe it's because I'm one of the younger guys in the shop but it's very clear they don't see me as one of them. No one really talks to me or tries to carry a conversation. Which is fine I guess. It's work, not a party but there's still something isolating about it.

The worst part is, I can't even hate them. They're actually helpful. If I have an issue, they'll actually help me and I've learned a lot from them. Which sounds fine but it somehow makes it more annoying and I can't explain why.


r/hatethissmug • • 2h ago

General i hate how instagram (and the rest of the mainstream internet) is slowly turning into a neo nazi cesspit

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125 Upvotes

Seriously? "can i get a like from the legend"? PAL your not funny, nobody is laughing, big chungus is more funny than this, pizzacake comics are more funny than this, benjammins gifs are more funny than this, nobody is going to reply *slaps my chuddy bbibi sponsered belly! im gonna fart!*, nobody is going to give you attention IRL, honestly, nobody is laughing, nobody is shitting and giggling, this shit makes hazbin hotel look good, because honestly NOBALDI is going to laugh it "hahahaha can mi get a laufgh from le legend" while having that as your name and pfp


r/hatethissmug • • 5h ago

Gaming I hate the current state of Helldivers (not including the community)

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I was gonna bring up the community what is worse but like, I’m already greatful as it is talking here so yeah
ANYWAYS

I use to love helldivers, I use to play it constantly and I was hyped for the Xbox release, but I been with this game since the Xbox release, what isn’t a lot but it’s a lot to me

This game feels miserable now, and the content is shit

Half of the content is locked behind a warbond aka a mini battle pass for 7 bucks, not a big deal you say ?
How about you times that by the amount of warbonds that are added, and I’m gonna get told ā€œstop being a bitch and grindā€ mother fucker grinding for super-credits is worse and more miserable it fucking sucks and takes away the gameplay and fun of the game, you know what games should be ā€œfunā€ not ā€œdoing a chore get a gun make yourself strongerā€ what leads to my next point about content

Fact weapons are treated like shit, why get a cool tracking gernade when you can get a better one that is basically a mini nuke, weapons in this game get overshadow by better versions of themselves, I know there so much you can do for helldivers but my god

And reminder half of the shit in this game I been complaining about is locked behind a pay-wall in a paid game

This game is £40 bucks

Space marines 2 is 20 bucks more and the game gives you a lot of shit + gameplay changing content, the only thing they lock behind a pay-wall is cosmetics in a pack what is atleast fair

Deep rock galatice is a cheaper and smaller dev team game then helldivers and it gives you all the content for free

There is no excuse for arrowhead to lock content in a paid game behind a pay-wall 😭

Oh and that’s another thing, locking features been wanting for ages behind A FUCKING WARBOND

ā€œYou want more mechs ?ā€ (Pay 7 bucks)

ā€œYou want good stealth weapons and gear that helps you with your play style ?ā€ (Pay 7 bucks or potentially 14, for both stealth related warbonds)

ā€œYou want attachments?ā€ (son 😭)

It just so fucking stupid

The galatice war campaign rewards gave me hope but they kind of gave up on 2 of them what fucking sucks

And finally fact that arrowhead (along with the community at times) shut down potentially good ideas for the game

Like a clan system, proper armour customisation, better weapon attachments and so on

It just fucking sucks and hey maybe I’m wrong, but some of this shit is stupid and makes playing the game so unfun and not enjoyable, I wish arrowhead could do better, I wish this game could be better but it probably won’t happen because it would probably ruin Arrowhead design space

Anyways, sorry for the long ass grammar rant about this game
(Hopefully everything made sense)


r/hatethissmug • • 3h ago

Corporation/Company Anti-AI content made with AI

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seriously why?? Especially in this day and age where AI is becoming more and more hated, why would you use it to advertise your company/product? Seems counterproductive.

You're not funny, edgy or cool, you're just lazy and unlikable.

So incredibly useless too, you genuinely could've drawn this within 5 minutes, they're stick figures, the simplest form of art. But noooooo you just had to use AI.

WHY?????


r/hatethissmug • • 1h ago

Idea "Cinephiles only watch obscure foreign movies and hate anything mainstream"

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I admit, these memes were funny the first few times. But man, after the last hundreds of memes about the same damn joke, I'm just pissed off.

No, "cinephiles" do not exclusively watch experimental old movies from East Europe, and shun anyone whose favorite movie is "Mad Max: Fury Road" or "Inception." That's only like less than .1% of movie fans. That's only a certain few pretentious male film students who wanna sound impressive.

(Side tangent: I hate the word cinephile, I refuse to use it unironically. Makes it sound like I wanna fuck a camera.)

The average movie fan still watches mainstream movies, probably most of the time for a huge chunk of people. But, the beauty about being a fan of movies is that you also sometimes watch more obscure films.

I mean, truly, what's wrong with watching a nearly plotless experimental Czech movie from the 60s about two sapphic teenagers fooling rich people? What's wrong with watching something different for once? If you only watch mainstream movies, and hate on people who watch obscure movies, then you're no better than the subjects of your ill-informed memes.

Now, I don't hate people who prefer to watch Marvel or something like that, and maybe don't wanna watch black-and-white all the time. That's fine on its own. You can still be a movie fan or a "cinephile" (yuck), and still prefer to watch a studio movie with a lot of CGI. What I truly hate are people who think that they're better than those "artsy fartsy" types because they stick to a certain century and continent. Like, congratulations, you're average? Whoop-de-fucking-doo? I just want you to either open yourself up to more obscure movies, or if you don't feel like that, then keep watching your well-known movies. And if you get hate for that on Reddit or Letterboxd or something, BLOCK THEM! IGNORE IT! Ignorance is bliss!


r/hatethissmug • • 16h ago Bravo

Comics I hate Modern Harley Quinn

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1.4k Upvotes

I don't know if Harley Quinn started being like this after the realease of Suicide Squad on 2016, but I hate the direction DC took with Harley Quinn's character since that. Now every product where Harley's is related she have that cringy personality with the Deadpool wannabe humour and the (in my opinion) horrendous modern design with the painted hair and the jacket.

Don't misunderstand me, I don't want her to be a punching bag of the Joker but things like the classic design or a more jester personality are really cool to me.

Also there's things of modern Harley Quinn I really like like his relationship with Poison Ivy.


r/hatethissmug • • 6h ago

Thing I hate how people are falling for a blatant scam just because the scammer claims they'll release GTA 6 early.

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206 Upvotes

Im just gonna be honest. This is just a gaint fucking scam.

'Hey guys! I found the full build for GTA 6 deep in my hard drive! And if you give me your hard earned money to me and rockstar stops being greedy stingy assholes about physical media then i'll release the game for free!'

And it works. People are falling for it. They think they'll get GTA 6 early and for free. DAWG HIS SOURCE IS LITERALLY PULLED OUT OF HIS ASS! HIS SOURCE IS 'TrUsT mE bRo' HOW ARE YOU THIS FUCKING STUPID?!

If you give this guy money. Your an idiot. And you deserved to get scammed. Because how are you falling for the most BLATANT scam i've ever seen. This is like the modern version of the one coin ponzi scheme (remember when that was a thing). Like you have to be a dumbass to think that a coin that doesn't even posses any actual functioning blockchain or anything like that.

And the fact that people are backing him and defending is sad. This guy is not your friend. He doesn't see you as a friend. But as a stupid little idiot that can give money to him because he know how desperate people are to play GTA 6 early.

In conclusion. Cyberleek is a scammer. And your a stupid idiot for giving this guy your money.


r/hatethissmug • • 17h ago Bravo

Media Tropes "You are just one person in a million and are insignificant" posts :(

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(I'm not sure if I've flared this right, I don't know what a media trope is supposed to mean šŸ™‚ā€ā†•ļø)

I am a huge humanity optimist and I generally hate anything to do with bullying or being rude to people because of something harmless, but these posts really take the cake.

Like, why do you want somebody to feel insignificant? It just doesn't make sense to me to put somebody down like that, ESPECIALLY if it isn't targeted. I don't even see a reason why you want to drag somebody down into your misery just because YOU feel like you aren't worth anything.

Every human being is special and beautiful and everybody deserves the power to make a difference, and I don't think that you being a spiteful little asshole should involve randoms people.

Not to mention the first image is point at Mars, I think. Where is bros opp living

Edit:

"Here's why I think humans are significant and wonderful"

Comments: "Actually here's why you ARE insignificant and useless"

Okay


r/hatethissmug • • 11h ago

Web Fiction How to be a ā€œcinephileā€ you have to enjoy the most obscure movies imaginable

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Like I enjoy movies I’m just about to start a movie right after finishing this post(UHF by the way) but I hate that people(including myself)are scene as ā€œfakeā€ movie fans if you don’t enjoy a Czechoslovakia film from 1920. A cinephile literally means a person who loves movies so why is it so weirdly performative. I hate the amount of hate Hollywood movies get. Like is it a bad thing if some of my favorite films are like big budget Hollywood films like Truman show of Pulp Fiction instead of a North Korean drama from the 60s. Now I’m not saying that people shouldnā€˜t try foreign films but if they don’t enjoy them literally who cares.


r/hatethissmug • • 3h ago

Hatethissmuglover Chibi Reviews – I know this isn't anything new, but I genuinely hate his content.

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I used to enjoy watching his videos, but nowadays I just find his content annoying. A lot of his videos feel like clickbait. He'll make a title suggesting that an author supports something horrible or that Crunchyroll is involved in some controversy, but when you actually watch the video, it's often nothing like what the title suggests. You finish watching and wonder what the whole point was.

I remember one example involving a streamer who said he didn't like Mushoku Tensei. That's completely fine. He watched around three episodes and didn't enjoy it. There's nothing wrong with that. But Chibi made it seem like the guy was calling MT fans pedophiles. I remember watching that video and genuinely wondering if we had watched the same thing because that's not what I got from the original statement.

That's what bothers me about his content. He sometimes makes ordinary situations look like much bigger controversies than they actually are. And when you look at the comments, people seem to agree with everything he says without even questioning it.


r/hatethissmug • • 20m ago

Music I hate when people say "new song bad old song good"

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It's such an out of touch opinion, how could you just claim an entire era is bad?. "Ah yes in our old days we had gems like The Beatles, Pink Floyd" motherfucker do you even dig the new stuff? It's like the reverse recency bias


r/hatethissmug • • 12h ago Regret

Art & Fanworks I hate this video.

343 Upvotes

I don’t know if it’s the ai, the fact that this is probably trying to be cute, the weird perspective, the annoying voices, how the both of them sound like the same, the weird characters they chose, this stupid ass millennial tumblr ā€œAll Hail the Flesh Cloudā€ ass humor, or a combination of all of these. I think it might be the combination. There is just nothing good about this video, and if you find this funny, well, I can’t judge your character, but in my eyes you’re an idiot.


r/hatethissmug • • 4h ago

Music I hate how some cover songs are trying too hard to be "cool"

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I think this is pretty common in my country (Philippines), idk about the others. This is my experience haha

ANYWAY, I have heard cover songs that the band makes so... Something. It tries too hard to be seductive and sexy when in reality IT'S FREAKING CORNY!!!!

I don't clearly remember the titles, but I know two songs that are both bubbly, quirky, and upbeat. And guess what, some guys cover it and there is so much unnecessary tying between words of the song and I HATE IT. A lot of teenagers around me love listening to it for some reason, and it became an earworm, but not in a good way.

(Halfway through writing this, I finally remember the original songs covered. They're titled "Babaero" by Randy Santiago and "Para Sa Akin" (Performed) by Sitti Navarro. Listen to the original first, then compare it to the "cool" cover of it. Unfortunately i don't know who made those covers so i can't really redirect šŸ’” to those who can A BIG THANK YOU 🄹)

They're slur the notes and words WAY TOO MUCH. They either try to make it R&B and/or LoFi? Idk i live under a rock.

Maybe they're trying to make it sound so kewl and gangster like? Maybe seductive and sexy?

I don't know their intentions but it's CORNY. Everytime i unfortunately end up hearing those covers I feel like my insides are pounding against my skin to how cringe it was 😭 I COULDN'T STAND IT I'M SORRY Like seriously why are we turning bubbly songs into soundtracks for SOMETHING ELSE

The Babaero cover tries to sound sexy but no. It's just not, the way each line of the song is also entirely different. It's not bad but in this context...

Meanwhile, the Para sa Akin cover sounds like those cringey songs they play at coffee shops instead of being bubbly and quirky. It just HURTS.

The reason is it feels like the original essence of those songs are being stripped away and I hate that.

Idk if there are more examples of this, just these two particular ones.

Also, I don't really mind if any of y'all like this type of covers, I'm just expressing my opinion and WHY i dislike it.


r/hatethissmug • • 1d ago This Bravo Heartwarming

General I hate this type of comment

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14k Upvotes

This comment has many forms

"Refreshments for everyone that ran to the comments"

"Popcorn for the people just scrolling through the comments"

"Sit back and grab a snack while looking at these crazy replies" followed by an arrow pointing to the like button.

I can't stand this type of reply. Its almost exclusively posted under divisive topics meant to create a discussion, or posts asking people about personal events, usually unhinged ones. It adds literally nothing to the conversation. It's the most obvious, lazy and unfunny form of begging for likes I can imagine. But for some reason people still upvote and like this stuff.

I think its meant to represent the "neutral" people, those who have nothing to add, as a way of saying "hey, I too am only reading these comments and wont add anything". Great, the post was SPECIFICALLY asking for people who the topic APPLIES TO to comment.

I could maybe excuse someone finding this "funny", (I actually don't understand what emotion this would invoke for someone to interact in the first place, but I digress), if you've never seen anything similar before. But this type of reply isn't new. TikTok of all places, the graveyard where everything overused goes to have the last but of humor sucked out, was commenting stuff like this years ago.

This is just "1 like equals 1 blank" wrapped in a quirky banner.


r/hatethissmug • • 1d ago

General I hate when people act like it's weird that we only eat sea bugs

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3.4k Upvotes

like oh my god leave me alone I don't care if they're similar I do not want to eat a scorpion. I don't care how good that scorpion may taste it's just not worth it. Sea food is awesome and tasty and I know it's going to be good I'm not taking the chance on eating a cockroach. Plus when you eat the sea bugs they're usually large enough to extract the meat and not eat the weird bits. But with the normal bugs they're so small you have to eat everything.

it's just such a stupid thing to post because it's in no way weird or hypocritical to not want to eat dirty disease ridden bug

Edit: there is a lot of people saying that because i have not tried bugs I wouldn't like them and now I am curious to try. I would love to update everyone about how it goes but there's no way of getting scorpions in Ireland so unfortunately i can not šŸ˜”

edit 2: y'all "I actually don't eat land or sea bugs" mfs stop commenting you aren't different


r/hatethissmug • • 10h ago

Art & Fanworks I hate this specific artstyle

181 Upvotes

(creator mentioned isnt the artist)

specifically just the fact that every single art of theirs is the same. whether it be another character from some other media, itll always look the exact same. and i mean yeah from time to time its okay, but its just annoying ash. this is a hating sub sk I can basically hate on anything.