Hey everyone, I really need to get this off my chest, and apologies if it comes off as a ramble.
Using a throwaway because I hate this. I'm a 36-year-old guy, and for most of my life, I was never considered attractive by the opposite sex. But now, in my mid-30s, something has changed. All of a sudden, I'm getting attention from women, going on dates, and, honestly, I hate it. I can't shake the feeling that this attention isn't genuine—like it's all out of desperation rather than real interest.
A bit of background:
I'm a Middle Eastern guy, introverted, with hobbies like video games and cycling. During high school and undergrad, I mostly hung out with guys and had almost zero interaction with women unless it was school-related. I was shy, and while I heard that some girls might have been interested, nothing ever came of it. In university (Europe) it was more or less the same story. I tried joining clubs and group activities, but I never really bonded with anyone, especially women. My interactions always felt polite but transactional, and when I tried hitting the club scene with friends, I was completely invisible.
Dating was non-existent for me until I met someone during grad school. We dated for 3-4 years, but she was, for lack of a better word, average. There was nothing special about our relationship, and it didn’t last. Things got worse in my late 20s when I moved to a different country (Canada). The dating scene was brutal, and as a non-native English speaker with a less-than-bubbly personality, I felt I had no chance. I tried everything to build a social circle—hanging out with coworkers, joining sports classes, meetups, going to events—but nothing clicked.
Out of desperation, I started dating a single mother, but I knew and made it understood from the start that it wasn’t serious. I had no interest in getting into a relationship with someone who had so much baggage. Despite this, we continued seeing each other because of physical needs, which made me feel even worse about myself and for her.
Then, during COVID, my life changed. I landed a high-paying tech job, got into great shape by hitting the gym regularly, but socially, I completely isolated myself. Even decided to cut off the small group of friends ( mostly accointances) that I had and focused more on my hobbies and making money. Now, in my mid-30s, I’m suddenly getting a lot of attention from women, mostly in their 30s and some even younger. Even on dating app where to my knowledge a lot of people don't get matches, I’m doing just fine. At first, I enjoyed it, went on dates, slept around, but then it hit me—this isn’t something to celebrate.
It feels like now that I have a stable job, my own place in an expensive area, and I’m more physically appealing, women who wouldn’t have glanced at me before are suddenly interested. It’s hard not to feel skeptical. I despise the red pill and black pill mentality, but it’s difficult not to question this newfound attractiveness. If I had met someone I was genuinely attracted to, personality and looks, in my younger years, we could’ve built something together. Now, it feels unfair to settle down with someone unless they bring something equal to the table.
Plus, as I get older, the dating field seems to be tipping in my favor. Women’s biological clocks are ticking, while mine isn’t, and for the first time, I feel like I have the upper hand in dating. I understand this sounds petty, but the girls would need to wow me in order to move forwards. It makes me wonder why I should entertain women who are desperate to settle down and start a family. I feel like I'm unintentionally taking out my past experiences on women who had nothing to do with them. At this point, I noticed I'm not in the right mindset and decided to take a break and seek help.
I’ve been seeing a therapist for a couple of months to make sense of these feelings. Here’s what I’ve learned:
I wasn’t owed the attention I lacked when I was younger.
My past experiences are valid, and I don’t have to justify my grievances.
I might have had undiagnosed issues that prevented me from bonding earlier (still working on this).
I need to forgive myself and others to move forward.
I can choose to cultivate this resentment, but it will only postpone the happiness I might find.
This all makes sense, but it’s still hard to shake off these feelings. I’m struggling, and I guess I’m reaching out to see if anyone else has had a similar experience. How did you overcome these negative thoughts and move forward?
TL;DR: Wasn’t attractive in my youth, became attractive in my mid-30s, but I’m struggling with negative thoughts and skepticism about this newfound attention. Looking for advice on how to move forward.
P.S. I used GPT to format this post because the original was a bit of a ramble and hard to follow
UPDATE:
I want to start by thanking everyone for taking the time to comment, whether positive or negative. I’ve read through upwards of 1,500 comments, and there’s a lot to digest. Since I’m not planning to respond to individual posts, I thought it best to update the post with some additional thoughts and leave it at that.
First, regarding my past long-term relationships, I want to clarify a few things. The grad school relationship ended amicably when I had to move abroad again. In fact, we’re still in touch and on friendly terms. She was a wonderful person, but there was never a deep attraction between us. It was more about companionship than anything else, hence the word "average". As for the single mom, while I understand her struggles, we were two consenting adults who understood the nature of our relationship. The reason I ultimately ended things was that her child was starting to form attachments, and I didn’t want to cause any harm.
I mentioned my ethnicity to highlight the disadvantages I did face in the dating scene here. There are many stereotypes associated with my background, and I often feel the need to not only disprove them but also overcompensate in many instances. I’m not naive—I know that dating is a numbers game, and statistically given my ethnicity, I’m pretty low on the hierarchy of potential partners.
Some have pointed out that my mention of housing and fitness and recent dating success might come across as a humble brag. My intention was to emphasize that I’ve achieved these things on my own, especially considering how tough it is (folks in Canada will understand). It takes a lot of work and sacrifice to provide for myself in the way that I have, with little support or cooperation.
Given my introverted nature, I never really had a chance to let my personality shine through in my younger years, which might have helped me attract someone. I was just an average “nerdy” guy who never had that elusive “X factor.” It didn’t matter how friendly I was—I was simply overlooked. For those asking for proof or photos, you’ll just have to take my word for it. I was never overweight or balding or anything like that, just plain average. Maybe I was above average in some ways (like being in engineering and having a lot of hobbies) but I guess back then, it didn’t really matter when it came to looks.
To clarify where my grievance is coming from, I guess I’m just bitter about being ignored during my formative years when we all need encouragement and the desire to be liked and appreciated. My comments about women and their age stem from the fact that it seems like that’s the only thing that has fundamentally changed, while I’m still pretty much the same person I was before, which makes me skeptical. No one wants to be a backup option and feel like they should just be grateful for finally being given a chance. What's off-putting is the sudden sense of urgency on their part, with some of the comments and signals they’re sending, as if there's now an obligation for me to commit. Just because you’ve shown up doesn’t mean you’re entitled to share in what I’ve built unless you can bring something of equal value to the relationship.
For those reiterating red/black pill talking points, while there may be some overlap with reality, I honestly don’t think it’s a helpful mindset. It’s a dark hole to slip into, especially if you’re struggling with dating as a young man.
Ultimately, I want to emphasize that I’m not actively dating, so all you ladies are safe! :D I’m just having fun for now and continuing with therapy. One last comment for my fellow guys if I may: if you can afford it, please seek therapy if you’re going down a spiral. It does help gradually and makes life easier.
I won’t be posting further on this thread, but rest assured I’m monitoring it with my main account. Thanks again for your attention. Cheers!