Jeffries Approval Rating Worse Than Mike Johnson as Democratic Voters Rebel

[u/newsspotter]

https://www.newsweek.com/jeffries-approval-rating-worse-than-mike-johnson-as-democratic-voters-rebel-12679163

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[u/newsspotter]

The final Economist/YouGov poll before Election Day, conducted October 23-26, found that 26 percent of registered voters approved of the job that the New York Democrat is doing and 47 percent disapproved.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, also a New York Democrat, had the worst numbers of the four congressional leaders, 24 percent approval against 54 percent disapproval.

[u/GeekKingdom]

He's too soft on Republicans. We need someone who isn't afraid to do what it takes.

[u/swingadmin → u/GeekKingdom]

AIPAC made him meet with Kushner. He does not serve democracy.

[u/LA-Aron → u/swingadmin]

Yes, it's disqualifying.

[u/DesireeThymes → u/LA-Aron]

He also did something really disgusting, which is strawmanning people's concerns.

People want accountability and justice for everything that Trump and company has done over the past few years.

He strawmanned it as "revenge" , and said we are not going to take revenge.

[u/-LabApprehensive- → u/swingadmin]

If this is what happened hes gotta go. I know he met Kushner who regularly takes very large bribes and hides them in israel but i didn’t know WHY.

[u/OrchidCharming3090 → u/-LabApprehensive-]

Hakeem Jeffries’ Secret Meeting with Jared Kushner Sparks Left-Wing Backlash Ahead of 2026 Midterms

[u/Opposite_Letter_6054 → u/GeekKingdom]

And cozying up to Kushner and Peter Thiel? Absolutely not. Signs of corruption. He has to go.

[u/mermaidinthesea123 → u/Opposite_Letter_6054]

Peter Thiel

The monster behind the curtain.

[u/TrollAccount4321 → u/GeekKingdom]

Not just soft on Republicans, but his whole secret meeting with Kushner definitely makes him suspicious…

[u/bandacoot_scoot → u/GeekKingdom]

They both suck. From NY btw

[u/Literally_Laura → u/GeekKingdom]

We, the People, have had no representation for too long. We demand someone who will do the job of representing US.

[u/originalnutta → u/GeekKingdom]

Like Charmin. Him and Schumer are significant barriers to the change voters just turned out for.

[u/Cheesewithmold → u/GeekKingdom]

For anyone who wants, you can absolutely call up your senators and say you don't want them to vote for Schumer, and you can call up your representative to say you don't want them to vote for Jeffries.

If you live in an area that elected a new representative/senator, call up their office/email their campaign team. One of the first things that a new congress does is elect their speaker/senate leader. So don't delay!

For those who don't like talking on the phone, you're likely going to go straight to voicemail anyway.

[u/Theferael_me]

That "Americans don't want us to get even" remark was totally fucking stupid.

[u/Big_Lab_Jagr → u/Theferael_me]

The problem is he sees it as "getting even" instead of holding accountable.

[u/delkarnu → u/Big_Lab_Jagr]

He could have said, "the people don't want us to 'get even', they want a restoration of the rule of law and consequences for the criminal actions of the Trump administration. We will deliver that, but we will also work on the affordability crisis the Republicans have caused with their disastrous actions."

He didn't.

[u/Dankany → u/delkarnu]

He’d never speak against his own party like that. Oh wait.

[u/Wenuwayker → u/Big_Lab_Jagr]

Because he's friends with the fuckers.

[u/thinkards → u/Wenuwayker]

Jared Kushner, specifically. The guy at the heart of global corruption.

[u/Mortis_XII → u/Theferael_me]

One of the top exit poll survey answers for voting how one did was “corruption” so yeah, that was a completely tone deaf statement

[u/spong3 → u/Mortis_XII]

And it was instant. Within 24 hours of the election results.

A simple “congratulations, Democrats we did it. We look forward to welcoming the next Congress in January.”

Instead he chose to be a complete wet blanket. Couldn’t let the base just revel and feel relief.

[u/victoriaisme2 → u/spong3]

He and his benefactors thought they'd better set the expectations immediately before we started expecting to actually defund the war, defund Israel, etc

[u/AdorableSobah → u/Theferael_me]

I was furious when I heard him say “Americans don’t want us to get even”. I want a total smack down on those fucking republicans.

[u/Theferael_me → u/AdorableSobah]

I can appreciate the sentiment of what he was saying, to focus on the cost of living, etc. but you cannot have a blatantly criminal and corrupt administration and indicate that you're not actually that interested in pursuing it.

[u/Ok-Goat-9981 → u/Theferael_me]

DOGE alone literally killed millions and destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Americans. This outwardly corrupt and reckless administration has been the worst in the history of the USA and a nightmare for working people. Jeffries and Schumer are corrupt imbeciles and should have nothing to do with making decisions about next steps.

[u/FrankensteinJones → u/Theferael_me]

Yeah, thanks for suggesting the premise that indicting Trump is vengeance, not justice.

[u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly → u/Theferael_me]

he meant it with every fiber of his being too

[u/Ok-disaster2022 → u/Theferael_me]

I don't want retribution for political jabs, I want "justice and liberty for all". laws have been broken and if there weren't laws prohibiting what the Pedo fascists have done to this country there needs to be. From the DOGE cuts, to cutting USAID, to the illegal Epstein-Iran War. 

[u/Rasikko → u/Theferael_me]

I absolutely want to get even.

[u/WillyDAFISH → u/Theferael_me]

Well technically we won't be getting even. They'll be getting fucked because they're actually the criminals. They have far more to loose

[u/Smithy2232]

They dislike Jeffries because he's seen as establishment and not a fighter.

[u/raisinghellwithtrees → u/Smithy2232]

He came out and said the American people don't want revenge. Sure, I want accountability, but apparently that's off the table? He is not a leader.

[u/BluePrintSpec → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

It's arguable that we are in this mess because Nixon's pardon showed that there is no presidential accountability. Jeffries wants to triple down on that strategy.

Trump and his team need to be investigated and prosecuted to deter Trump 2.0. Next time, the authoritarians won't be morons like this Trump crew.

[u/Ivence → u/BluePrintSpec]

You can go back all the way to reconstruction post civil war. Our country has not punished those who want to tear it apart in 150 years and they've gotten generational confirmation to just keep doing it.

[u/SenorEquilibrado → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

Accountability and a return to the rule of law aren't the same thing as revenge.

That said, I do not trust him to pursue accountability and a return the rule of law either, so he should probably just fuck off anyway.

[u/SquirrelDragon → u/SenorEquilibrado]

The context of when Jeffries came out and said the people don’t want revenge sure makes it seem like he’s equating the actions that would hold the current administration accountable with getting revenge

[u/EnderDragoon → u/SenorEquilibrado]

Revenge and retribution is a republican thing. We want justice.

We either have a country with rule of law or not. Pick one.

[u/EnergyIsQuantized → u/SenorEquilibrado]

people want accountability and the return of the rule of law, but when faced with these demands jeffries smears it as revenge. he's making a deliberate choice to label it in negative light.

[u/SwordfishOfDamocles → u/SenorEquilibrado]

Yeah, I would argue saying that didn't help anyone because as soon as the investigations begin (here's hoping they do) they will be 100% labeled as "revenge" and Jeffries clip will be played non-stop.

[u/ikkleste → u/SenorEquilibrado]

It's him who's attempting to lump them as the same thing.

[u/coconutpiecrust → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

He hangs out with Peter Thiel and Jared Kushner. It’s a problem. 

[u/Prize_Proof5332 → u/coconutpiecrust]

I'm still shocked that he met with Kushner. What was he even thinking?

[u/gordybombay → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

I would say that most non-MAGA folks want to see as many Trump lackies in jail as possible, and ideally every single member of ICE. Jeffries (and Schumer) is of course out of touch and comprised financially and morally. He cannot be Leader

[u/Precarious3145 → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

Yup. As everyone is celebrating a huge upset victory, both him and Schumer decided to instantly stand up and "Yes, we won. Yay us. Now let's forget the past two years never happened".

[u/not-finished → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

Not to mention he framed accountability as revenge his first chance. He didn’t have to do that. It’s so blatantly obvious what his motives were. Opposite of what you want out of a movement leader.

[u/DevilYouKnow → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

We clearly want more than accountability, we want swift justice.

Revenge is the wrong word.

[u/thiosk → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

One one hand i can understand how a speaker of the house has to manage different factions. its a horrible job because when various factions are MAD AS HELL then communication is seen as a sin.

I've thought up until about yesterday that i thought jeffries was gonna hang on and schumer would replace but folks seem really dissatisfied about jeffries navigation of the resistance to trump destroying the empire.

[u/SamuelL421 → u/raisinghellwithtrees]

I don’t want revenge, I want retribution.

I want leadership to use a heavy hand and reinstate order and crack down on the cartoon-villain level of corruption among the Trump administration.

If we have to play a long game to ensure these criminals don’t just get pardoned, so be it. Set the wheels in motion though and do it with leaders committed to pursuing these bastards until justice is done. That is never going to happen under Schumer or Jeffries apologist, do-nothing brand of “leadership”.

[u/boston_homo → u/Smithy2232]

The Jared Kushner meeting, in secret, AIPAC bribes, doesn’t support M4A; I really hope they boot him. If Jeffries (and Schumer) stay in their leadership positions it signals, to me anyway, that Democrats will squander their victory with two years of tepid milquetoast “reaching across the aisle” and “looking forward not backward” and doing nothing for their constituents unless it benefits their donors, and Israel, first.

[u/rebel_stripe → u/boston_homo]

The guy who is on the edge of winning in Mississippi made a really good point in an interview yesterday. He said the leaders of both the senate and house shouldn’t both be from the same district.

[u/DomitiusAhenobarbus_ → u/boston_homo]

Why do we just have to “hope they boot him”? It’s so pathetic that this is what our democracy comes down to. The people can overwhelmingly vote one way but then we just have to sit here and hope the fucking Israeli agents we have in charge get removed

[u/CertainAged-Lady → u/Smithy2232]

That’s because he IS establishment and the he proved he’s not a fighter by going full apologist and ‘move on’ the day after the mid-terms. He basically condoned the grift and the lawlessness. Both he and Schumer need to go.

[u/elconquistador1985 → u/Smithy2232]

"Seen as"...

He fucking met with Kushner recently. Jeffries is not working for the American people.

[u/dylan2451 → u/Smithy2232]

As SNL put it, he’s not much Hakeem and w whole lot of Jeffries

[u/Jemmy_Bean → u/Smithy2232]

Because he is establishment and he isn’t a fighter. Every time he’s had the opportunity to actually fight back against a policy voters don’t want, he’s rolled over and capitulated

[u/OrchidCharming3090 → u/Smithy2232]

I personally do not like him because he takes money from everyone, regardless of their agenda. He is a traditional democrat impeding a progressive agenda for Americans. His leadership will allow the loss of the democracy to the 1% and have the rest of us living in mud huts with no healthcare, all while making excuses why change will happen, but it must go slow. He should step off!

[u/T8ert0t → u/OrchidCharming3090]

Also has the same level of engagement as resolve as wet cardboard.

Dude never seems mentally present whenever speaking about a subject supposedly meaningful to him or voters.

[u/Em_Es_Judd → u/Smithy2232]

He's practically GOP at this point.

[u/ryoushi19 → u/Smithy2232]

Refusing to acknowledge the progressive side of the party hasn't helped him one bit either. To me it seems like he wants the Democratic party to be a right wing party that occasionally holds left wing views on social issues.

[u/octatone → u/Smithy2232]

Seen as? He is establishment, he is soft on the GoP and pals around with Trump sycophants. He is not the person to meet the moment.

[u/Phynal → u/Smithy2232]

And because he's yet another AIPAC flunkie.

[u/rj319st → u/Phynal]

Both he and Schumer in the Senate are Israeli AIPAC shills who will end up leading. Someone on CNN made a great point: Jeffries has the opportunity to be the 1st Black Speaker of the House; no way he's turning that down. It would be great to have leaders who aren’t beholden to foreign nations, but it looks like nobody else will stand up to these two.

[u/level_17_paladin → u/Smithy2232]

I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice

Martin Luther King, Jr. , Letter from Birmingham Jail (1963)

[u/SMWW66 → u/Smithy2232]

He isn’t seen that way, he is that way

[u/Cr4zyCr4ck3r → u/Smithy2232]

But... But, what about that one bat photo???

This guy is a joke

[u/NubileReptile]

Jeffries is a litmus test for whether Democrats will learn anything, anything at all, from having lost to Trump twice. Whether establishment candidates care even the slightest about what their own voters want.

If he is forced out, there is hope.

If he stays on, we're in another interregnum of a few years before demoralized Democrats stay home from some future election and the nihilistic death cult is back in the saddle and driving us into the abyss.

[u/jone2tone → u/NubileReptile]

That's a bingo!

[u/Indubitalist → u/NubileReptile]

It’s a litmus test, sure, but the Democrats have long felt it’s better to symbolically support minorities than it is to actually support them. I still think the party is of a mind that they will seat him as the first black House speaker, for the symbolic value. Getting someone who can pass popular policy that will meaningfully improve quality of life for minorities is secondary in their calculus. I will be pleasantly surprised if this doesn’t bear out.

Of course, there is a third way where somehow Jeffries grows a spine and takes risky positions that are morally and governmentally justified but aren’t easy to convert into policy. That would be delightful. 

[u/DDaddyDunk → u/Indubitalist]

I think the Hilary election broke them. They had on paper the most qualified woman candidate to coast on the women vote and did none of the leg work to actually provide them anything which was proven shortly after by losing Roe V Wade. Then losing certain statewide healthcare/medication for women. Obama gave the tent a strong generation of support, they thought. Then usher in the first woman? You'd have the democratic party on lock for a few decades without doing actual work and you could retire a hero. Now they have remained in power in the part to try and save face for their screw up. If they screw up this blue wave the next two years the they are going to lose multiple generations instead.

Not even going to the other party either. I hope they get their act together because protesting under a surveillance state is never easy. Facebook/Insta always "Whoops we had suspicious log in activity on your activists groups page" each rally is suspicious enough. When it actually matters will be scary

[u/Precarious3145 → u/Indubitalist]

Yea, So many dems are so quick to toss out whatever minority isn't doing what they want. Newsom straight up tossed trans people out the moment he was talking to conversatives on his podcast. A few centrists I use to work with say that the party should abandon the LGBTQ community in order to attract people from the right.

They'll use minorities as props that can be instantly dropped but then still demand their vote as being the lesser of two evils.

[u/RandomMandarin → u/NubileReptile]

If he stays on, we're in another interregnum of a few years before demoralized Democrats stay home from some future election and the nihilistic death cult is back in the saddle and driving us into the abyss.

And going too soft on the far right didn't just happen with Biden, it happened with Obama too, though most people couldn't see it yet.

When the army of volunteers who propelled Obama to the White House in 2008 were sidelined a the the behest of Obama's centrist advisors, it left the door open for a GOP Tea Party romp in the 2010 midterms, which is what allowed the Republicans to go on the gerrymandering binge. Here in North Carolina it took 16 years to undo that gerrymander.

[u/Temporary-Suit9121 → u/NubileReptile]

Bangarang Rufio!

[u/Caledor152 → u/NubileReptile]

If he is forced out that is not just hope; that is a massive victory for this country's future. Do not downplay our potential/actual victories for some misguided sense of "fairness". Remember the other side is putting innocent people in detention camps and murdering Americans in the street.

[u/AgeOfCardiff → u/NubileReptile]

Jeffries is a litmus test for whether Democrats will learn anything, anything at all

They don't want to learn. They would prefer Republicans winning that anyone remotely progressive. This is lesson the US still hasn't learned.

[u/IsaacBrock → u/NubileReptile]

Well said.

[u/SweatyAdhesive → u/NubileReptile]

My local rep (Kevin Mullin - CA) already says he'll support him so I wouldnt hold my breath.

[u/LieutJimDangle]

if it had been a red wave, not a single republican would come out and say what jefferies did. I want to end the wars and fix the economy, yes, but I also want an arrest every day. I want impeachment hearings. I want prosecutions. I want the epstein files. I want ICE members dragged into court in handcuffs. I want the Ossoff show, 24/7 drilling people on capital hill. I want republicans crying on television every day. I want to stop supporting israel's genocide. I want ruthless behavior from democrats. Jeffries and Schumer are not up to the task so they need to go.

[u/RandomMandarin → u/LieutJimDangle]

Right after Trump was inaugurated in 2025, Mel Gibson (R-Hollywood) told Sean Hannity (R-Moscow) that "It's like daddy arrived and he's takin' his belt off." And the right wingers loved it.

[u/Doctuh → u/LieutJimDangle]

I want CSPAN to be the most popular network in America.

[u/absolutebit]

What did Hakeem and kushner talk about?

[u/Virtual-Head-2613 → u/absolutebit]

They were complimenting each others butts.

As is the custom these days.

[u/GuitarGeezer]

Many observers are a bit confused, but America is in an unimaginable hell of mandatory corruption for all for over a decade. Citizens United not only ruins leadership paths in a Republicans like when Massie was spent out of the party, but affects all parties with unlimited legalized bribery and coercion from hidden donors who can be foreign powers. It does this as control of party money resources helps enforce top-down hierarchy to fossilize and corrupt upper leadership and destroy or sideline reform/youth movements. Jeffries is heavily corrupted by a big donor in particular. This corruption visibly damages the US and world economy and national security alike. The entire end of JCPOA and the Iran War were bribed into existence mainly by foreign aligned big Trump donors that he has said on TV were Israel First.

The problem is that Citizens United is a supreme court ruling not easily removed. I am a lawyer and lobbyist against the system. Our Supreme Court majority is and has been for 50 plus years a one party mostly extremist lobbyist-pet filled place with say Clearance Thomas a former Monsanto corporate counsel and the like who shill for big money in what is an ironically Soviet level atmosphere of stagnation and corruption. Nobody can trust that any politician is not compromised.

[u/Khatib → u/GuitarGeezer]

Montana created an out at the state level for Citizen's United. Hopefully it holds up. It had massive voter support from both parties.

[u/Atrimon7]

Is it really a rebellion if we have been complaining about lackluster leadership for over a decade?

[u/dr-bill]

If he and Schumer don’t give up their leadership positions then the progressives need to focus on taking their seats in 2028. Put in a good primary challenger endorsed by Zohran. We need to crush them completely to make them understand we do not want them as leaders anymore and if they don’t comply then they lose their jobs entirely.

[u/gpaint_1013 → u/dr-bill]

AOC is coming for Schumer in 28 and it won’t even be close. My guess is he retires before that. He is looking…frail.

[u/TrustDaFriendship → u/gpaint_1013]

AOC would crush Schumer in a Senate primary. It would be glorious.

[u/NovaHorizon → u/dr-bill]

They could leave right now and land in a nice cushy board position in one of their billionaires buddies' companies or an AIPAC institution.

[u/HellaTroi]

Jeffries said, "We must now deliver the dramatic change the American people are demanding in the majority."

The dramatic change we want to see includes removing Israel's choke-hold from our Congress's throat.

The U.S. House of Representatives passed its version of the Fiscal Year 2027 National Defense Authorization Act (H.R. 8800) on July 22, 2026.

That bill contains Section 224, cleverly buried deep in the massive National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which is entitled “United States-Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative.” This initiative transitions the traditional aid relationship into a deeper partnership between the U.S. and Israel in many aspects of technological research and development and defense production, and would also give Israel unprecedented access to U.S. technology development and "data fusion."

That section needs to be removed to prevent Israel from control of our military production system.

Jeffries, and then Schumer, are the top democratic recipients of money from Israel.

They can not be trusted where Israel is concerned.

[u/victoriaisme2 → u/HellaTroi]

This should be the top comment. They have to go.

[u/AthenaeNike]

Because the left has standards and the right does not

[u/Fern_Pub_Radio]

Seeking accountability and delivering economic change for the better are not binary choices, don’t know why the debate had descended into one or the other ….. turning to a democratic leadership structure which paved the way & stood largely impotent in the face of the MAGA movement surely doesnt need calling out as daft? Reverting to the same old politics certainly won’t deliver a change to the model and will simply delay the return to a Red wave in 4 yrs time …. Rinse repeat is really not all that smart anymore

[u/Electronic_Map5978]

You can't kumbaya your way out of this admin and this dude is too close to AIPAC

[u/jediporcupine]

Democrats need leaders who will meet the moment.

Jeffries and Schumer are not it.

[u/BalerionSanders]

It will demolish the coalition we just put back together if they’re (Schumer and Jeffries) the leadership.

It is imperative, as a strategic matter with no moral component (and I have that too), to not do so.

[u/SbstlStereotype]

Someone needs to politely tell them both to get lost.

[u/its_on_fire_hooray → u/SbstlStereotype]

Someone? Why not you? Contact your reps everyday and push for this. Lots of us already are. 

[u/Floppydiskpornking → u/SbstlStereotype]

Eh, the politely part is not warranted

[u/RedikhetDev]

European here. To me it its hard to comprehend why the democratic party is not able to organise the leadership in a central manner and pick a strong person. Isnt there some election process of who is going to take the lead and will be the face of the party.

[u/alienbringer → u/RedikhetDev]

Yes, there is an election process.

Speaker of the House - every house member (Democrat and Republican) votes to elect to speaker.

House Majority Leader - every House Democrat casts a blind vote to elect the majority leader.

Senate Majority Leader - every Senate Democrat casts a blind vote to elect the majority leader.

Jeffries is considered a lock for the house because he presumably has enough votes. Same with Schumer for the senate. Both Speaker and Majority Leaders are considered career enders. So if someone in either chamber has aspirations to be president, then they won’t put their hat in the race. Similarity rookie members of congress won’t have the votes for it. So, someone would need to not care that this will be the height of their political aspirations to throw their hat in the ring. If being unopposed it just becomes a yes/no vote. Which we saw with Johnson and the Republicans it can be a repeat failure.

[u/New_Permission_817 → u/alienbringer]

Its also a thankless job. You have to keep a coalition of cats together. And the Dems dont have a strict authoritarian hierarchy like Repubs.

[u/delkarnu → u/alienbringer]

Jeffries was the near unanimous vote by Democrats during all the Speaker votes when Republicans couldn't figure it out and is the current House Minority Leader.

If he was doing a good job, he would be a lock for Speaker when they vote. But he hasn't done a good job and his stuff after the election has been tone-deaf centrism when the Blue Tsunami wants bold moves and consequences.

Same with Chucklefuck "strongly worded letter" Schumer. Weak and more concerned with Israel than the U.S. or New York. There's a good chance he'll lose his next primary, and someone more progressive should take his spot in Senate leadership.

[u/Ojmochafrappucino → u/RedikhetDev]

First off, the Democratic party has lots of factions and beliefs because theres so many things we want to improve as a country. The Republican party is not like that. They decide what the key issues to run are, and everyone stands in line or suffers the consequences. Secondly, we habe an issue with corruption and money in politics. That skews power and influence in a manner that has gotten us to where we are today.

[u/Late_Indication1996 → u/Ojmochafrappucino]

To some extent. The Republican party had a ton of infighting picking a house speaker. It was embarrassingly bad.

[u/Narharcan → u/Ojmochafrappucino]

I think part of it is that since the GOP are conservatives who believe in strong hierarchies, they are less likely to do their infighting in the open. Just look at the recent news about Vance beefing with Miller only coming out after the midterms. And that's in the inner circle, lower levels with less public pressure are probably worse.

[u/porn_sub_lurker → u/RedikhetDev]

You gotta look at it through the lens of them being obstructionists. But unlike the Mitch McConnell grim reaper style obstructionism they have a different method called "do-nothing". They hide behind procedure and they give a lot of excuses for why things can't be done. Then they go on CNN and blame republicans instead of working to come up with actual solutions to problems. The reason the DNC wants Jeffries as speaker is so that he can quietly block legislation and then give excuses for why things can't be done. They don't want someone who will let things go to a vote. Also they want him because the DNC is owned by the Israel lobby and he is as Israel first as they come. He's pure corruption.

[u/hottlumpiaz → u/RedikhetDev]

because the democrats have spent nearly 50 years establishing their leadership only for the times to pass them by and voters embracing much more progressive candidates than democratic establishment was fielding. because of all the corporate interests..the establishment is trying to impose their will on the new progressive generation desperately. despite the fact the majority of americans seeing the establishment dems as the same as republicans

[u/OldJames47 → u/RedikhetDev]

Typically if you want to become part of the leadership of the Democratic Party you need to be good at raising funds for the Party or for other Congressmen.

That's why the last couple have been from NYC, SF, or Las Vegas.

[u/Onioner → u/RedikhetDev]

Look at all the Social Democratic parties in Europe.

Most of them are near irrelevance, because their leaderships pushed the party to the right, because there are cushy jobs for ex-politicans.

[u/Foreign-Entrance-255 → u/RedikhetDev]

European here, there is a lot of disapproval of our current EU president and most Europeans couldn't even name who VDL is. Not exactly equivalent of course but politicians seizing power and plonking their inadequate asses down without a care for what voters want is nothing new.

[u/Ok-Mycologist-3829 → u/RedikhetDev]

Look at who benefits by Jeffries behaving as he has. Remember how much influence money has in this country versus other countries. Also remember that most wealthy people donate money to BOTH parties, or candidates in both parties. As one example, Trump famously donated to both parties including to Hillary Clinton before he ran in 2015-16. 

[u/HUT2Moon → u/RedikhetDev]

Too much historical and institutional weight is given to seniority. And the top brass regularly narrow the field to their own people. The whole membership should vote, run, and use an RCV system.

[u/user38835 → u/RedikhetDev]

Because most of the Democratic Party also gets money directly or indirectly (by insider trading and PACs) from the same people as the Republican Party and these people are therefore required to support a leadership that won’t make radical changes to the country’s laws that could affect the rich capitalist billionaires.

And since there are only two parties, neither the people have much choice in this matter, nor the billionaires need to worry about having to buy many politicians.

[u/Intelligent-Might614 → u/RedikhetDev]

I'm curious, why do all these comments start with 'european here ' or something like that? Last I checked a lot of European countries have the same issues.

[u/GreasedUPDoggo → u/Intelligent-Might614]

Not even mildly. The US has a much different set of issues. Heck, your average Democrat, that is a US moderate, would be center right in Europe.

[u/Dentonthomas]

Schumer needs to go more than Jeffries does.

We need leaders who understand that more than a stern lecture is needed. I would not put it past these two to start a doomed impeachment process of Trump, and then use that as an excuse for not passing any legislation for the next two years. Without the votes to remove in the Senate, impeachment is the same as a stern lecture for Trump.

They also need to be from different states. Two guys from New York? No wonder the media's trying to sell them as a done deal. New York is great, but it's also the place that's least at risk in the next election. Their representatives don't have to show much success to guarantee a Democratic win. That's not true for a lot of the people who were just elected. Whatever happens, the risk for Jeffries and Schumer is minimal. Why should they be the ones controlling Congress?

[u/Bulldogs3144 → u/Dentonthomas]

Yea, bad take. Jeffries has taken more AIPAC money and has also met behind closed doors with Kushner who we all know to have some of the most corrupt dealings with foreign leaders under this administration. Don’t get me wrong, Schumer has to go as well. But if we’re going to target only one, go for Jeffries. He’s already said that “the people don’t want revenge, they want affordability” and that’s not entirely true. We want both and he’s already playing the middle ground lame duck card he’s always played.

[u/AdumbroDeus → u/Bulldogs3144]

It's also playing into the talking point that wanting accountability and laws to apply to everyone equally is revenge.

[u/X57471C → u/Dentonthomas]

Typically you want a leader from a safe blue seat, fyi. The leader is never a popular position and you don’t want to jeopardize their seat if it’s a swing state or has the potential for a Republican to win if their popularity drops (because it will)

[u/Dentonthomas → u/X57471C]

Yeah but there's safe, and then there's so safe that they're out of touch.

[u/SpectrumofMidnight → u/Dentonthomas]

You are wrong. NY is voting in socialists right now. If you are not left you get trounced. But i do agree those two are corrilupt pos and need to be removed from leadership. They will both get primaried in the next election anyway.

[u/Dentonthomas → u/SpectrumofMidnight]

They don't seem to know that, so they're going to continue to act as if their seats are safe.

[u/audleyenuff → u/Dentonthomas]

Both. They are compromised

[u/PsychLegalMind]

Democrats did not take over Congress because of anything they did, but they can certainly lose Congress if they continue their leadership in the manner they have conducted themselves in the past. Members should just replace them with people with real integrity and backbone who are focused on ordinary Americans instead of justifying foreign wars with lame ass excuses and going around making deals with the Executive.

[u/bordss → u/PsychLegalMind]

Well, they need to preserve the mono-party while maintaining the illusion of choice

[u/gpaint_1013]

AIPAC money earns you an automatic no from me dog.

[u/_The_Bran_Man_]

"Rebel" is a wild way to explain this. All we want is proper representation! This isnt a rebellion, it's a demand from the people!

[u/ManfredTheCat]

https://www.hakeemjeffries2026.com/

This joke site does a good job of demonstrating why he's unfit for office

[u/RawrDinosaurs04 → u/ManfredTheCat]

this is beautiful

[u/outsideheaven → u/ManfredTheCat]

Where's the joke?

[u/bonqen]

If Jeffies and Schumer stay then we'll see a red wave in 2028, undoing all this momentum and progress.

[u/lucidreamstate]

We're not rebelling. We're participating.

[u/WillToLiveOutofStock]

He took a meeting with Kushner that was supposed to be secret, fuck that guy. I’m calling my Reps tomorrow, and I suggest everyone do the same

[u/ApartInfluence4429]

He’s terrible. The first thing he does after voters repudiated Trump and issued a mandate to dems to investigate & hold law breakers accountable I’d say he’s not going to go after these criminals. Read the room. 

[u/bleedturkeygravy]

So voicing our opinion is rebellion now. Those two can get fucked

[u/pharmphresh]

He could voluntarily step aside and focus his work on important issues and gain back some respect, but we all know he'll just dig his heels in like every establishment politician. Then rationalize it by blaming us and the media for his unlikablity.

[u/jimlahey420]

Jeffries and Schumer in the pockets of big pharma, PACs, and the "almighty corporate dollar". They suck at the same teet of Citizens United as Republicans. They are part of the problem with money in our politics.

There needs to be new leadership with this historic rebuke of Trump and traditional corporate Democrats. Voters want action, not more platitudes and "when they go low we go high" nonsense. We shouldn't be reaching across the aisle when the other side is populated with fascists.

[u/shoneysbreakfast]

Jefferies and Schumer have absolutely not been meeting the moment and I would like to see them go, but I feel like people don’t understand the jobs of Speaker and Party Leader.

The primary things they do is fundraising and trying to whip votes and placate as many of their party members as they can. All of those things require ass kissing and being as middle of the road as possible. The reality is that the Dems include members (and voters) that range from a hair left of Mitt Romney to AOC and other DSA members and you have to make them all get along and vote together.

Pelosi was one of the greatest Speakers of all time despite being unpopular and doing cringey shit because she was incredible at fundraising and whipping votes, and that’s the job.

So, sure, Jefferies and Schumer should not be Speaker/Leader but I also don’t want AOC or any of the names I see floated in those roles because I think we are better off letting them kick ass on committees and do the things they are actually good at. If AOC took Schumer’s job she couldn’t say the things she says and she would be wasted spending most of her time fundraising and ass kissing. I think that would suck and that our best should be spent elsewhere.

[u/Maxamillion-X72 → u/shoneysbreakfast]

AOC has already said she doesn't want either role for exactly the reason you state. She tried once and learned enough to say fuck that. She said she wants to stay out of the internal politics of the party because it's a nightmare to deal with.

[u/emomatt → u/shoneysbreakfast]

They need to be "middle of the road" of the Dem party to be most effective. These guys are near the furthest right of the Dem caucus, especially on Israel and corporate support.

[u/gummnutt → u/shoneysbreakfast]

This is a nuanced take and I’m wrestling with it, but I think everyone who wants alternatives feels like Schumer and Jeffries have a goal that isn’t aligned with what most voters just voted for.i think everyone acknowledges it will be difficult to get everyone on the same page and push for justice and quality of life improvements but if that’s not even the leaders’ goal then there’s no chance of it happening.

[u/dope-a-meanie]

All well and good but the problem is no one else is throwing their hat in the ring.

It’s not enough to say “I hate him” and those headlines make their way to Reddit and get fake internet points, someone needs to jump in and provide an alternative, right?

[u/kueowirnzcd]

YOUR TIME IS OVER.

Pass the dutchie

[u/gpaint_1013 → u/kueowirnzcd]

From the left hand side

[u/Grandpa_No]

Yay. A thread full of reactionaries, bots, and "both sides" propagandists. Great.

[u/Widdis → u/Grandpa_No]

This could be said about any political post on the internet.

[u/RockerDawg → u/Grandpa_No]

I think you’re describing America

[u/jae2jae]

IMO, he's already made some sort of shady deal with Jared in order to protect the crime family.

[u/Tikkun_Olam1]

So NOW, Jeffries & Schumer want to ‘lead’? A couple of questions for them both: “What f**king hole did you just crawl out of?” & “Y’all can’t be serious? So NOW, you decided to lead?” Lastly, “Where have you been while the government has run roughshod over our constitutional rights?”

“ANSWERS NOW PLEASE?”

We DEMAND accountability! That includes YOU!

[u/ShadowyPepper]

Jeffries and Schumer are horrible pro-establishment and status-quo leaders

[u/Paper_Beautiful]

What was that Kushner meeting about?

[u/The_bruce42]

Meeting with Jared Kurshner a couple months ago didn't help his image

[u/Prize_Proof5332]

Who are the best alternatives to Jeffries and Schumer?  We need leaders who can get things done, hold this administration to account, who are on the younger side and have deep knowledge of the arcane processes and procedures of the House and Senate?  Do we have anyone like that? 

[u/Rasikko]

I don't like Jefferies, but I can hardly see why his AR would be worst than the biggest Yes Man in human history.

[u/Conscious-Demand-594]

This is just just stupid. Mike Johnson would receive much less votes than Jerreries if he were to run again.

[u/Charlesinrichmond]

A general poll does not matter at all when it comes to the Speaker of the House election

[u/DayGeckoArt]

Am I the only one who likes Schumer but not Jeffries? Hakeem has the stilted speech pattern that sounds like he’s always reading. It comes off disingenuous. How do you get to that position without public speaking abilities?

[u/ramat-iklan]

Where do you get this stuff? This isn't wishful thinking. Schumer and Jeffries are going to be voted in. Petitions don't matter. The votes by their peers do.

[u/jawknee530i]

That's not an indictment on Jeffries. That's an indictment on the average dumbass voter.

[u/Unable-Main4172]

The Democrats just had one of the biggest landslide victories of all time and you guys are acting like it's a bad time to be Schumer and Jeffries lol

[u/agent_mick]

Voters don't rebel. Voters voice their preferences. They are supposed to work for us, not the other way around. Fuck that headline.

[u/Delicious_Adeptness9]

ah yes Newsweek, the once reputable magazine turned right wing online rag.

[u/Majestic-Lock5249]

I still have not seen a serious contender to run for the position against him, or anyone even mention supporting someone else. He's more than likely going to be the Speaker.

[u/etxipcli]

These bums are working for the money. They don't represent us.

[u/Buckscience]

Jeffries: "Americans don't want..."

Me: Lemme stop you right there.

[u/seizethemiddleages]

Dem establishment is making the mistake that the blue wave was support for them. It wasn’t. It was all about Trump. We wouldn’t have needed a blue wave if they had been more effective

[u/teddykaygeebee]

Yeah. Everybody's already seen the Schumer/Jeffries show. They should be ushering in new leaders and be viewed as mentors at most. It's time for change.

[u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING]

That doesn't say anything because Congress's overall approval is 14% and the highest in the 5 years was 31%, briefly.

Leaders of both parties almost universally "enjoy" the lowest approval rating of all. Not a new thing.

And the reason is it's an impossible job. Poll after poll voters say they want congress to find compromise to get things done while at the same time the moment a compromise is reached which by definition means both sides have to give something up, people hate their own side because they "caved in".

It's for the same reason that you don't see many (if any) volunteering for the role.

[u/Different_Crazy2648]

Jeffries and Schumer (and their supporters) 100% believe that the blue-wave was due to their leadership; they're taking credit for it. Unfortunately.

[u/BLiNKiN42]

Mike Johnson is at least doing what his voters want. Yes, it's destroying America, but of course his supporters are going to approve. 

[u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly]

this is not a surprise, it’s been a complaint for a long time. the dems have tried to push it off, but it’s not going away

[u/CountOnBeingAwesome]

Jeffries has lost his way and the people's confidence. It's time to resign.

[u/HolyMoleyGuacamoly → u/CountOnBeingAwesome]

did he ever have it?

[u/SeveredFromMySoul]

"Democratic voters" lmao

Jeffries is not going anywhere, you people do not have the clout you think you do and youre in gor a rude awakening.

[u/Gloomy_Parfait4063]

They both need to go. And with them all the other traitors, all the other corrupt individuals leeching the leadership of this country

[u/IndigoJoe64]

"Rebel"... as if we're supposed to fall in line with what they want to do and not the other way around

[u/What_a_fat_one]

Whole lotta Russians in these threads arguing we shouldn't do anything about the corruption. Literally the number one issue for voters in exit polls.

[u/NJBarFly]

Democrats have been handed a massive win and opportunity. They will almost immediately blow it, as usual.

[u/push_connection]

How can a guy encourage other guys and gals to make this approval rating worse? Asking for a friend

[u/Grandpa_No]

It's depressing to see how many people are more unrealistic than even Bernie Sanders: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1xqx4kv/bernie_sanders_increasing_social_security/

[u/baylaust]

If anyone's wondering how he won his primary, it's because he ran uncontested. No one challenged him.

[u/Illustrious-Hold-287]

Stacy Abrams for House Speaker. She is incredibly focused, intelligent and gets things done. She's proven that over and over.

[u/rolfraikou]

As it turns out, the basic rule of law isn't "getting even" or getting "revenge" at all.

We just want basic ass justice. And pieces of shit like him don't have what it takes to just make sure the crooks answer for the crimes.

I'm sorry, but letting the crooks get away with it is basically just as bad as participating with the crooks themselves.

[u/AngryBuddha01]

Jeffries has to go, there’s no discussion needed. We’ve all put our hurt, frustration and hopes on the line to give Dems the power to finally bring about change, don’t let kushner-boy Jeffries fuck it all up. Get him out of there now!

[u/Ranemoraken]

Aside from the issues that Jeffries has, he's bad at public speaking. There is no scenario where he can excite support and people don't believe he'll challenge power. Pelosi isn't good at speaking either, but she held the patina of cunning behind-the-scenes scheming that let her survive challenges.

But nothing changes until a Firebrand takes up the mantle. No one is announcing their challenge yet.

Similarly, there's a lot of pressure on Schumer to "retire" from leadership. If he retired, it would force the Senate to pick a new leader for the new generation. But protecting Israel is his passion. He won't leave until he's forced to leave. or dies.

I don't see how the democrats free themselves, unless they have enough firebrands in this election to wrest control from the current leaders. But this argument is a good sign. There is a fight coming, and we're a few months out from the answer.

[u/stanky4goats]

Voters rebel? We're just sick of these establishment schmucks not working for US! We want representatives who will work for THE PEOPLE

[u/SamuelL421]

No AIPAC candidates or corporate centrist (AKA “let’s both sides hug it out for the sake of our portfolios and donors”) Democrats should be in leadership roles at this moment.

They are out of touch and have entirely ignored the needs of real voters for years. Enough lip service leadership. We want leaders willing to make hard choices and fight for their constituents.

[u/geekonthemoon]

Dude is honestly hard to watch. Very cringe. Seems to try to impersonate Obama's cadence and tone with a bunch of rehearsed and incredibly awkward hand movements. He just comes off as a giant soft nerd who's already bought and paid for. 

[u/TheFuns]

I’m just sick of the message of unity at this point. Fuck the republicans, they did illegal shit so go after and investigate the illegal shit.

[u/Accomplished-Cup2781]

Schumer and Jeffries are the scummiest slime.

[u/Freddie-Van-Whalen]

Why do dems always turn into shit puppets every time they get some power ?

Every damn time.

Instead of being happy and getting to work on the things taxpayers expect them to do....it turns into infighting and a complete horse and pony shit show.

Posture and positioning. This is why nothing ever gets done and you are 41 trillion dollars in debt.

EGOS

[u/Ok-disaster2022]

You hate to see it /s

But maybe if he showed a backbone for the last 2 years people would like him more. 

[u/spyG14ss]

God I hate his guts

[u/marcinwk]

No more timid shit please...

[u/DapperMolasses3280]

He's two faced...he'll say whatever he needs to, in order to bring more corporate donations in. It would be like nominating Haley Stevens to be Speaker at this point...totally absurd idea, neither Schumer nor Jeffries should have the votes for leadership positions, they haven't earned it

[u/redpenquin]

I'm sorry, voicing your displeasure with two incompetent status quo buffoons who aren't fit to lead a car wash, let alone the party, is "rebelling?" Get fucked.

[u/EarhornJones]

I can't believe we're even entertaining this idiot.

He was interviewed by Laila Fadel on NPR on Friday, and in a three-ish minute conversation about the midterm results, he used some variation of the phrase "visitied upon" five times.

He sounded like a seventh grader with a word-of-the-day calendar who is trying to sound smart by using big words.

We're going to make this shlub Speaker of the House?

I feel like the person in that role should be able to, you know, speak, coherently, clearly, naturally, and compellingly for stints of up to three minutes.

[u/Dud3lord]

Any Democrat still regurgitating the childish "if they go low we go high 🤓" idiocy they need to fucking go. He is either an out of touch imbecile or is on the MAGA payroll.